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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- TV Tokyo no list in KeyHoleTV anymore, so watching raw later. No OP. Shrade is hard on himself, at the warping space. Behind the patch, there's an earth and they were sent to particular place. A book? About that legend. Also those 3 can see that vision, too. A flying pet, Pollon? For master's wish... 2nd chapter is the first series of Aquarion. Apollo = that pet. 3rd chapter = current. And there are two earth (the place that they went before is another one)?? Toma cursed Amata (Apollo's reincarnation)'s separation, and the girl is indeed the girl before's reincarnation. (Sousei as double stars?) And he is Mykage? Continuous legend to be written by everyone. The girl said sorry to Kagura for not being able to realize his feeling sooner. Bloody notes from Shrade. And playing piano. Aquarion's melody, start of everything. Final performance for his friend, who sensed it, and gone... And it's written to the book. Then Mykage is using green hair girl's body, for his revenge!! Aquarion is called by Kagura. Real legend?? ED is the first ED!! |
tsubasaloverJun 3, 2012 11:39 AM
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
tsubasalover said: TV Tokyo no list in KeyHoleTV anymore, so watching raw later. I see. I was wondering where you were. Anyway, that's almost everything revealed. So the rumour I heard is true. Amata/Kagura is the reincarnation of Apollo, and Apollo is not the reincarnation of Apollonius but his pet, Pollon the Winged Dog. Pollon loved Celiane and continues to love Silvia as Apollo and Mikono as Amata/Kagura. We are all trolled. Shrade, umm.. he's really dead? We don't see his corpse though. Shit happened to Zessica. Damn that Mykagay. Kagura on the Solar Aquarion with Mikono and Zessica (possessed by Mykagay), now what? |
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| AUAHUAHAUAHAUAE trollface |
| english isn't my native language... ;) |
| Spoilers about dogs turned to be real. Greatest trolling with retcon there Kawamori. I'm wondering how Kawamori will shit on Zessica in next episodes. It's starting to amuse me. |
bastek66Jun 3, 2012 11:23 AM
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KaitoDash said: tsubasalover said: TV Tokyo no list in KeyHoleTV anymore, so watching raw later. I see. I was wondering where you were. You can start the thread if you want if you have already watched it. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| I'm pretty sure that this wasn't planned when they were making Sousei no Aquarion. This reminds me of Pandora Hearts where the author also trolls it's audience, just like here. |
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DSM144 said: I'm pretty sure that this wasn't planned when they were making Sousei no Aquarion. Probably not, but they could still spin it. Reina did see Apollo with wings, dog ears, and a tail from time to time, and when she saw Apollo and Sylvia together in one episode they looked like a dog and master respectively. I am still laughing. Also, no wonder Shu-Shu likes Kagura. |
| This made me like the series again. A couple of questions then: Who is Apollonius? Is Apollonius alive/dead/Aquarion? What is this story of an angel falling for a human that will happen again according to Zen? Who is Zessica (a random nobody would have been chosen as Element for the Original Aquarion and Mykage knew it all along? I doubt it). Apollonius could be: 1) Still in Aquarion. 2) ZEN/Gen (All these 24.000 years I have been TROLLING You). 3) Zessica. 4) Alicia. Leaning on Zen for now (as a projection from Aquarion), because Mykage asked him where he left his real body nudge hint. He was 'hinted' to be a pilot of Aquarion, everyone assumed that was the third. Nope. Likely he was Apollonius himself. Love story between an angel and a human tale repeating itself. What is Zen on about? Is it Amata who is only the 'angel' side of the angel dog or maybe... is it Mykage who is the only shadow Angel around? If it's Mykage, is he speaking of him and Alicia or Zessica or someone like Izumo? I'm maybe leaning on Mykage and Alicia because next episode should be about her. Who is Zessica? a) Apollonius. b) Scorpius. c) Touma. d) Nobody. I'm leaning on Touma's light side (love) reincarnated as human because of his redemption in Genesis. While Mykage is the incarnation of his pure hatred. Mykage said "You and I are the same." It could have been foreshadowing. |
Thess said: Apollonius could be: 1) Still in Aquarion. 2) ZEN/Gen (All these 24.000 years I have been TROLLING You). 3) Zessica. 4) Alicia. Probably Aquarion, it turned out that he never reincarneted. Thess said: Who is Zessica? a) Apollonius. b) Scorpius. c) Touma. d) Nobody. Agreed, she is part of Touma that realized his mistaked and "Dealt with it" Deathtoheaven said: Mykage (v) To reincarnate as your dark side and hijack your light side's body, for the purpose of piloting mecha and having mind sex with the dark side of your former lover and the light side of his girlfriend It's not his body though, Touma didn't have boobs and green hair. bcmilk said: Oh Zessica.... Getting a kiss from Mykage must be the worst experience ever. D: Selfcest. |
bastek66Jun 3, 2012 6:38 PM
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Deathtoheaven said: How about Amata? Amata Sora=Highest (Most Distinguished) Sky, which could also be He Who Is In The Highest Sky or He Who Soars The Highest. If Kagura is the beast, the dog, Amata is the Apollonius, the wings. The reincarnation of the mix was split back into its true components. Nope. The director already said both Amata and Kagura are reincarnations of the dog Pollon (it was leaked in an interview of the maganazine Spoon before the episode was aired, around Thursday). He explained that Amata got the dog's wings, Kagura got the other traits. Deathtoheaven said: I agree with you here. Let's make Mykage a verb: Mykage (v) To reincarnate as your dark side and hijack your light side's body, for the purpose of piloting mecha and having mind sex with the dark side of your former lover and the light side of his girlfriend I wonder if OVA Touma's goal will come up to play… |
| ....ughl mind f***! ..my thoughts are a mess... DX... so apollo was never apollonius from the start ...but his pet?...that loved Celiane? then who was apollonius 12,000 years ago in Genesis? and if apollo wasnt solar wing how did he"awaken the wings of the sun?" this whole series makes my head hurt!(still can't stop watching though -__-) |
LadyFujoshiJun 3, 2012 9:51 PM
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| I think that this episode ruined the whole series for a lot of us. Now Genesis of Aquarion just seems weird. Come on, a dog falling in love with Sylvie. But the most important thing is that she didn't even realize it. She thought he was Apollonius. This story was made up just for the purpose of EVOL. I think that when making Genesis of Aquarion, they didn't plan it like this. Also, how can a dog have wings of the sun that Amata has??? Is there going to be another turn around saying that he is Apollonius? or is this final?? Im so confused... |
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| I'm probably sounding like a broken record but Mikage makes one of the best villains for a story that I've ever seen. I hope Zessica turns out okay in the end but I liked the twist with him taking her over. The twist with the winged dog is weird but strangely I like that, too. |
| WTF happened? O.O |
To start off, I want to confess I have never hated any anime character as I hate Mikono lol. The episode itself, well it was decent. Golden aquarion awakened. Also, we find out that Apolo was the reborn dog. That was amusing too. Mikage took over Zesicas body, bad guys can use the legendary aquarion. Well, whatever. |
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porkiewpyne said: Pretty sure you wanna watch it for yourself :D Ain't no fun finding out from us. ESPECIALLY this ep. LOL Watched it already though. What I meant was "WTF just happened?" |
| lol ok so where is the real reincarnation of Apollonius the Angel now then? |
| this episode ruined the whole first season for me... a lot of scenes from the genesis of aquarion doesnt make sense anymore if apollo was a dog reincarnation. I dont mind directors trolling its audience, as long as they make it in a way that it connects to the whole plot especially if the show is based from a previous series (if i havnt watch the first one, i probably wouldnt mind what happened in this epiode)... i just hope that this isnt all the revelation they came up with and there will still be more in the last few episode that will connect everything. |
| I really liked this episode. This was either one of the best examples of trolling I've ever seen or Kawamori and Okada just pulled this out of their asses. Still entertaining nonetheless. Please Okada. Please Kawamori. No more shitting on Zessica. |
teyorya said: this episode ruined the whole first season for me... a lot of scenes from the genesis of aquarion doesnt make sense anymore if apollo was a dog reincarnation. I dont mind directors trolling its audience, as long as they make it in a way that it connects to the whole plot especially if the show is based from a previous series (if i havnt watch the first one, i probably wouldnt mind what happened in this epiode)... i just hope that this isnt all the revelation they came up with and there will still be more in the last few episode that will connect everything. You basically summed up this entire series. |
| OH SHIT! Mikage just entered Zessica's body!! Looks like the legend has just written. |
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| KAWAMORI KING OF TROLLS OF ALL TROLLS OF ALL YEARS 10/10 10/10 10/10 10/10 WOULD BE TROLLED AGAIN |
| ...Trolled with dogs. I've never seen the first season, but dam did it ever looked like I got trolled just now LMAO, 10/10. Zessica's body being taken over, hope she can overcome Mikage. Shrade is Dead..? NOOO :( |
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| we only have 3 episodes remaining. i'm hoping, but i doubt it would be enough to redeem how they ruined a 5 year old series.... |
| What is so brilliant about this troll is that IT WASTHERE ALL ALONG THIS IS NOT A RETCON KAWAMORI PLANNED THIS FUCKING TROLL 7 YEARS AGO http://greyharmony.tumblr.com/post/24360192383/from-beast-of-darkness-to-beasts-of-love and it's DIRECTLY revealed once in ep 16 of Sousei: Freaking amazing troll. Bravo Shrade's death scene was good, RIP you magnificent homo ;__; |
| When you think about all of Apollo's dog like qualities and Kagura's whole wolf thing, the fact he's the reincarnation of a dog actually makes a lot of sense |
| The evidence is there. So this was all to troll us? Still doesn't excuse the poorly written main characters, character inconsistencies, weak and poorly developed romance. |
Xardie said: What is so brilliant about this troll is that IT WASTHERE ALL ALONG THIS IS NOT A RETCON KAWAMORI PLANNED THIS FUCKING TROLL 7 YEARS AGO http://greyharmony.tumblr.com/post/24360192383/from-beast-of-darkness-to-beasts-of-love and it's DIRECTLY revealed once in ep 16 of Sousei: Freaking amazing troll. Bravo Shrade's death scene was good, RIP you magnificent homo ;__; Oh my god. That link. OH MY GOD. HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS!? Okay but one thing I'm a little confused about - did celine's soul split into two as Silvia and Sirius and was Silvia the reincarnation and Sirius was... her dark memory? and therefore not her reincarnation? THe book of Genesis only showed Silvia so I guess Sirius wasnt? |
bcmilk said: Oh my god. That link. OH MY GOD. HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS!? Because most people thought that this implies that Rena was dog. Many people was wrong all along. |
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| Storytelling like a boss according to Aquarion: Step 1: Dick around for 22 eps Step 2: Have Jacob from Lost explain everything in one go just before the end -2.a: make sure to fuck up parts of the story that happened in the previous season with winged dogs and whatnot Also, Shrade ;__; How I'm gonna miss the ultra-gay innuendos every week ...not. |
_fantasticmrfox said: Still doesn't excuse the poorly written main characters, character inconsistencies, weak and poorly developed romance. Character inconsistencies? I know many people have been claiming that about Amata in ep 22 but quite frankly Mikono being in danger > forget everything else is part of his character and Amata kinda just... forgetting Zessica is not characterization inconsistency. It does make him bit of a dick though. I don't think Amata and Mikono are badly written characters per se (Amata is quite likeable outside his MIKONO-SAN mode too, not that there's any inherent connection between likeable and well written mind you) while Kagura is almost non-entity anyway, it's just that the triangle itself between three has sucked and been repetitive as hell for god knows how long. Luckily it looks like that is finally going to change for good. Kvakond said: Storytelling like a boss according to Aquarion: Step 1: Dick around for 22 eps Step 2: Have Jacob from Lost explain everything in one go just before the end -2.a: make sure to fuck up parts of the story that happened in the previous season with winged dogs and whatnot Step 1: Expect they haven't "dicked around" for 22 eps, only thing that has been in quite the statis and as such could be called "dicking around" is the Amata/Mikono/Kagura triangle which does not equal with everything. Step 2: Except that the revelations have been gradually been made for a long time now and what happened in this episode is more like putting everything together at the end of murder mystery which is entirely legit form of storytelling. Only thing in the whole backstory setup that arguably was dropped on audience was the whole dog twist but given Kagura's beast form etc. it's not entirely without its foreshadowing either. Just explaining things to audience out of nowhere is most of the time bad form of storytelling but that's not what really happened here as we've had partial visages of truth, hints etc. dropped quite a bit along the way and really explicitly since ep 16. I enjoyed the episode immensely like I'd enjoy a solution to murder mystery. -2.a: it's not a retcon |
| @Xardie I've read your link, touché on that. On step 1, I meant that this season has been more of a slice-of-life with some gattai every other week On step 2, the thing is this isn't a murder mystery. Or I don't think it's ever supposed to be one. True, 95% of it was old information (with 5% being the Dog Drop(c)) so this episode served more as a recap, yet I still get itchy from a godlike figure spinning in a nice chair in his room answering every question we ever had. That is bad storytelling in my book. |
| This episode was so wrong, so bad and so full of shit... Mikage... Dog... Now it lacks only some pedophile but hey, still 3 episodes left... Good series but failed ending. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
| THE ED SONG! XD It was time to get rid of Yunoha's song! |
| So the dog stole Celiane´s love to his master Apollonius. Wow. Dogs are the best XD Now Iam sure Shu shu will be the protagonist of the next installment of the series. Shu shu will reincarnate as human and will troll everyone by becoming the reincarnation of Apollonius, LOL. A dog... Kagura´s form was like a wolf, not a dog...How did the dark wolf´s Kagura form was...in fact a fluffy white winged doggy? LOOL. So weird. You think you found your fated lover, when in fact its his dog XD Kagura is so gonna die. T_______T And Zessica must be Reika...or Toma´s other half...or...whatever. |
ワンダーランド花 ♥ |
| @Xardie Yes, when you look at the evidence it makes sense, but it is still bad storytelling. Aquarion! The story of a girl and her dog... |
| Welll, shit. Troll of the year (actually 7 years, huh?). Just who is Apollonius is what i want to know the most now. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
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