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Jun 1, 2012 2:11 PM
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What I mean of course, is can straight guys like yaoi, and straight girls like yuri? Would you consider such a thing possible?
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Jun 1, 2012 2:14 PM
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If the story/characters were good enough yes. I've tried a few yaoi for curiosities sake, but they seemed pretty plotless and don't even have believable relationships. The whole uke/seme thing is so dumb...
Jun 1, 2012 2:15 PM
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For some, sure.. but for me it would make me question my sexuality lol.
Jun 1, 2012 2:15 PM
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possible, but i'd say it is a very rare case

Jun 1, 2012 2:24 PM
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Men who watch yaoi for the enjoyment and say they are not interested are in denial!
Jun 1, 2012 2:26 PM
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99.99% of the yaoi shows out there are made for and by straight women than gay men.
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Jun 1, 2012 2:54 PM
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Of course not. Why would anyone want to watch something that isn't exactly the same as their life? Don't be absurd. I only watch shows about straight twenty year old males going on anime forums, now that's the good stuff.

There's no reason a straight male can't appreciate a love story between two males, or two females, or two anythings.

Actually sorry, I think I might have been under the wrong impression here. I just looked up yaoi and it seems like there has to be explicit sexual stuff for it to be considered yaoi? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if that's the case I can understand why it would turn most straight males away (still, I would not say enjoying it automatically makes you gay or bi).
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Post-Josh said:
Of course not. Why would anyone want to watch something that isn't exactly the same as their life? Don't be absurd. I only watch shows about straight twenty year old males going on anime forums, now that's the good stuff.
pfff those shows are overrated, i prefer the animes about a guy fumbling his way through college who sleeps in his spare time, no progression in social life or relationship, repeat for 4 years

best anime are like that

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jun 1, 2012 3:17 PM
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I don't have any experience with yuri (as a girl, that's sort of the reason) but full-on yaoi is mostly plotless or unrealistic in terms of relationships, even more so than the worst shoujo cliches (imo, please don't eat me alive anyone). Those are obviously marketed towards females, like how harems are mainly towards guys.
I personally like Shounen-Ai, since it's less about butt-sex and more focused on the actual relationships part, usually (see Seven Days).

So, basically, it can be possible for straight males to like BL and vice versa, though the enjoyment relies heavily on the actual plot and character relationships, and not all of the sexual crap.
Jun 1, 2012 4:21 PM

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The more secure you are in yourself and less attached you are a perceived identity based on a cultural judgement the more likely you are to be able to see the story beyond the gender relationships and enjoy it.

As noted above, true Yaoi and Yuri verge on porno and, as such, are usually plotless and pointless. I have little interest in either. I have seen some darn good shounen-ai and shoujo-ai though. And yes, Yaoi is written to appeal to women. Most gay men have little interest in it.
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Jun 1, 2012 4:32 PM

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Yeah it's possible as long as you are open-minded and willing to try watching those genres.
Jun 1, 2012 4:34 PM

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Why not?
A sweet relationship is a sweet relationship, no matter what sexes are involved.
If it gets a bit rapey then I tend to dislike it, though.
Jun 1, 2012 4:36 PM

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So, basically, it can be possible for straight males to like BL and vice versa, though the enjoyment relies heavily on the actual plot and character relationships, and not all of the sexual crap.


Basically this. I pretty much like a good romance not matter the genders involved. Just recently I watched Fuyu no Semi which is marked as yaoi but there was no really explicit sex scenes. Instead it was a melancholic romance story about two men stuck on different sides of a war. It was an often bitter tale of love, politics and discrimination. It had a nice historical backdrop and actually had a lot of interesting historical context. The OVA was a rushed at times and could have used more time to develop the romance and characters but overall it was a nice watch.

In general the problem with shounen-ai and yaoi is the uke/seme dynamic. It is downright annoying especially when it's paired with rough forced sex scenes. However, there are some decent romances out there and even non-extreme uke/seme can be interesting but those aren't all that common. I'm not very experienced with the genre but that's what I've observed from my forays into it.

So yeah, as I straight male I can find something to enjoy in shounen-ai/yaoi but it has to be something with an actual story to it, not shit like Papa to Kiss or Maiden Rose.
Jun 1, 2012 4:38 PM

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Yes. I am the perfect example.
Jun 1, 2012 11:08 PM

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Yes. I am the perfect example.


I guess the clue was in your name huh xD
Jun 1, 2012 11:16 PM

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Possibly. I mean, I don't like yaoi but I do LOVE yuri.
The one thing that I'd love to see is a lesbian yandere.
Jun 1, 2012 11:38 PM

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Meh, I'm not feeling this topic. I can't really stand anything Yaoi, even if its not directed at me.
Jun 2, 2012 12:40 AM

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Sure, why not? Although personally I avoid yaoi/shonen ai like the plague.
Jun 2, 2012 12:43 AM

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Sure, I read yuri sometimes.
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Jun 2, 2012 12:59 AM

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If the anime in question has a good enough story and presents the couple maturely and realisticly, then I don't see why not.

But if the anime is nothing but fanservice featuring a homosexual couple, or just has a poor story or 1-dimensional characters, then obviously not.
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I've watched yaoi and yuri. Both are pretty stupid, but you get exceptions. Fuyu no Semi's already been mentioned, which is about the only yaoi that has something besides cliche romantic comedy and/or lots of sex. And Maria-sama ga Miteru is just barely yuri, kind of funny, and quite interesting.
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Jun 2, 2012 1:33 AM

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It is indeed possible, though as for myself that would be a N-O.


Jun 2, 2012 1:45 AM

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What I mean of course, is can straight guys like yaoi, and straight girls like yuri? Would you consider such a thing possible?


As of first thing I have no idea. I haven't found any that I find interesting and/or art was somehow to off for me.
But I know few girls, most certainly straight (or mainly straight) that like yuri.
So it's possible (or guy watching yuri, that doesn't go into some ecchi area - like Maria-sama... why not)

And reason is oblivious - everyone deep in their heart want's to marry a turtle (watching yaoi/yuri makes you gay, which in turn makes you want to destroy civilization by forcing people to marry turtles - simple)
Jun 2, 2012 8:33 AM

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Well yeah, i have seen a yuri anime once.
Don't really care as long as it have a good storyline.
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Jun 2, 2012 9:29 AM

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I'm with lisnoire on this one, if it is good quality I can like it, and I really like some shounen-ai that i've red, but so far nothing more intense than that.
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I used to hate it but now I don't mind. It's not that I like it, it's just that it doesn't affect as much as it used to. My friends on the contrary get disgusted when it's mentioned so I have the pleasure of destroying their ears with my fanfics improvised on the spot.
Jun 2, 2012 9:41 AM

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Why not? It's like asking "can non-Japanese people like anime when it's not targeted towards them?"
Obviously there are some plain hentai ones, just like hentai anime in general, but there also others that have good story with touching/sweet/cute moments. Plus, subtle yaoi/yuri-ness is pretty common place in many anime. It's just another aspect of the story.
Jun 2, 2012 9:50 AM

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Yaoi is pretty rubbish but I can enjoy Yuri as a straight female.
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FOEbulous-max said:

But if the anime is nothing but fanservice featuring a homosexual couple, or just has a poor story or 1-dimensional characters, then obviously not.


I think you're seeing the difference between what shounen-ai and yaoi. The latter is more about animated gay porn while the former is more about animated gay relationships(stories).

Jun 5, 2012 5:59 AM

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I personally liked NO.6, tried to ignore the gay parts as much as possible and it turned out pretty good.
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Jun 5, 2012 11:03 AM

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No. People can only like things directly targeted at them.
Jun 5, 2012 12:53 PM

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I think so if the person is open enough to give it a shot and if the story and characters can keep them interested. I think alot of the time though people see the yaoi or yuri label and run away.
Jun 5, 2012 1:42 PM

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Of course people can...
Jun 5, 2012 2:43 PM
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I imagine it is possible. I doubt I could do it, I would be bothered by the physical aspects of it, but I am sure there are people who both have no interest in that aspect but are not bothered at all. That said, I tend to avoid shows with a physical aspect at all(Yosuga no sora, for example) I just dont really want it in the anime I watch(this is odd, since I love visual novels)
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Jun 5, 2012 6:00 PM

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Of course it's possible, the story has to be good in order to accomplish it though. If it's just pandering to its demographic it won't appeal to most people.
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Of course not. Why would anyone want to watch something that isn't exactly the same as their life? Don't be absurd. I only watch shows about straight twenty year old males going on anime forums, now that's the good stuff.
pfff those shows are overrated, i prefer the animes about a guy fumbling his way through college who sleeps in his spare time, no progression in social life or relationship, repeat for 4 years

best anime are like that


The endless four, Haruhi fans would be all over that.
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Jun 5, 2012 6:22 PM

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Hmm, well I don't really have a problem with yuri or shoujo ai as long as it's tastefully done.
Jun 5, 2012 6:33 PM

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lol Obviously you can like anything.
Jun 5, 2012 7:10 PM

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if i watch something that has two dudes kissing... hell, even holding hands in it than ppl will think im gay...

i mean, have you see ever a gay person enjoy a striaght romance story? i never have

(pron is a completely different matter than romance storyes, i can see why there wouldn't be two many straight people watching prom made for homosezuals)
Jun 5, 2012 7:32 PM

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i mean, have you see ever a gay person enjoy a striaght romance story? i never have


Well you'd be wrong about that haha.

Anyways I don't quite understand the point of this thread. It's really quite obvious, all depends on the person and depends on the anime. Though most yaoi and yuri are only created with one point in mind, to be a series focusing on a gay relationship, person, or unfortunately (for some), often hentai fan service. And quite honestly I don't understand why a straight person would want to bother with that outside of curiosity maybe even after questioning their own sexuality.

Well I do know their is a fanbase of females who have gotten in to yaoi for whatever reason, I guess because they think it's cute?

A series featuring a good story, plot, and characters that just happens to feature a gay couple could easily entertain an open minded straight person. Unfortunately I don't know of an anime that might qualify - I'd bet there is a good, well rounded yuri title floating around I don't know of.
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Well you'd be wrong about that haha.


ya i know lol

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Well I do know their is a fanbase of females who have gotten in to yaoi for whatever reason, I guess because they think it's cute?
i hear majority of yaoi is for girls... but guys like it too, i know some guys, all gay tho, no striats guys

but ya, i agree with your post. a good romance story should entertain anyone regardless of the genders of the couples...
Jun 5, 2012 10:05 PM
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I will watch yaoi as long as it involves traps, otherwise I will pass. Straight guy here.
Jun 6, 2012 1:29 AM

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Straight guy here, and I do love traps.

But obviously guys enjoy yuri.
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I avoid yaoi (but I think I watched some series ... been curious >.> ), but I watch yuri sometimes ... if the story's good and I like the characters.And I also read some yuri ^^
So yeah, why not?But I don't think guys watch yaoi simply because it's yaoi >.>
Jun 10, 2012 11:07 AM
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I'm straight & I'm fine with yaoi/yuri.
What's important is the story.
Jun 11, 2012 10:43 AM

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Basically what SuWern said. I feel extremely awkward watching yuri (though in all honesty, that's just who I am orz), and while I've never watched/read a series that was specifically yuri, I suppose I've enjoyed certain moments of it in other anime.
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I am really impressed by the number of "real men" reporting in, the ones secure enough in their own sexuality not to fear being tainted by any hint of "gayness". Kudos.

And to the person stating "gays don't enjoy straight romance," you are wrong, wrong, wrong. They aren't likely to be interested in straight or lesbian porn but that is something totally different.

Anyone curious or interested in an excellent Yaoi title, take time to see Fuyu no Semi. There are a few fairly graphic scenes but overall, it is a beautifully done bit of historical drama that happens to involve two very masculine men who are drawn to each other. Most other Yaoi titles are mediocre to worthless.
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Well, I like yuri, so sure.
--Yuri doesn't interest me but I have really enjoyed some Shoujo-Ai. (Neither do I have much interest in hentai or straight porn. No moral objection. Just find most of it generally boring. Need some story and romance with my sex, thank you.)
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Well there are quite a few anime I have watched that were Shounen Ai, and I'm a straight male. Very little consider Death Note to be Shounen Ai, but I'm not sure about that. I mean sure, That scene with L drying off Light was sort of a hint towards it, but come on it's hardly anything of the sort. There are a few Shounen Ai that have great plot out there that I'd like to watch, but I don't want people to think I'm gay for watching it. I'm into women 100%, no doubt about it. It's just some Shounen Ai have great plot, and if you don't watch it then you might be missing out on one of the best things ever created. There are plenty of anime targeted towards straight men that feature Yaoi/Shounen Ai in them, so I don't see the problem. If I get labeled as gay for watching such things then so be it, because gay means happy. I'm a happy straight male, who loves his anime. The only things I won't watch are porno Yaoi or Shounen Ai, I just want a normal Shounen Ai( eg. fighting, battle, mecha, etc.) or Yaoi (eg. Slice of Life, Science Fiction, Horror, etc).
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An anime has yaoi/yuri undertones doesn't mean it's a canon yaoi/yuri anime, though there may be a lot yaoi/yuri doujinshi(I just think of Death Note and Mahou Shoujo Madoka). You can ship a couple, or not. It's up to you. If you don't, you can also enjoy the show without yaoi/yuri undertones. But for those canon yaoi/yuri shows, there are few straight fans into them, as far as I'm concerned. Also, I think this is not associated with sexual orientation too much, after all, the real world is different from 2D world.
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