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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- A bit of re-used scenes throughout the episode (make sense since they made 2 episodes out of a single manga chapter) but overall this was still very good! I loved the extra scenes of Claude and Camille as kids, its really a shame that the way of life at the time pretty much guaranteed that they could not be together. And thanks to Yune it seems Claude finally understands a bit better why Camille kept refusing his offers to leave the house as kids, he almost even looks like he regrets what he did now. Watching Camille endure her lifestyle for the sake of her sister and Claude is also pretty sad....Oh how I wish these 2 had a happy ending. On the lighter side, Alice continues being BASED. Mod Edit: Fixed thread title. |
LunaAug 24, 2012 2:27 AM
game8910 said: YES! That is the most important moment I find in the manga at this point and I am glad they did splendidly in this episode. And thanks to Yune it seems Claude finally understands a bit better why Camille kept refusing his offers to leave the house as kids, he almost even looks like he regrets what he did now. Indeed it was Yune who gave a nice kick to Claude to realize about Camille, which really is remarkable of Yune. |
| Alice is happy about Yune is wearing her childhood friend. Tea ceremony time. Contemporary Maccha Milk! Camille love Claude and describes him as cat living outside. Camille was just a girl who cannot get out of outside, but always dreams of getting outside. Claude was just wanted to help out but Camille always refuses. Not sure if he understands her feeling. So Camille has been out once. Wow, father Claude! Claude finally understood Camille after what Yune said. lol @ Claude saying "normal" to Alice and Camille's dress on Yune. Next ep. is more on Claude papa! |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| so she must imprison herself in order to be free.....hahaa interesting. that desktop doll at the end is too adorable. if i were to ever buy such a thing, that would be it. |
| aristocratic women of the time seemed to have it rough... they had to marry men who they didn't love... and essentially live in 'cages.' although some moments, I envy Camille's immense wealth, I'm not jealous of her lack of freedom/life. Claude seems to be having some revelations through Yune. |
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| This 7.72/10 overall rating is getting on my nerves now <_< A very good episode. And it is by now obvious that Camille still loves Claude the way she did in her childhood. Was it just me, or Camille looked stunningly beautiful in this particular episode? And cannot get enough sweetness, Yune is such a heart warming existence! Of all people, she gave Claude hints of what he has been misunderstanding all along. I felt bad for Camille. I hope both of them have a happy ending. T_T |
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| I hate it when I see animes like that. Just because they're rich doesn't mean they can't play with the other kids. They should be able to play together despite their wealth. |
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| Rapunzel, Rapunzel, with hair so fine. Come out your window, climb down the vine. |
MorningGloryAug 30, 2011 2:05 AM
| Another great episode. Kinda felt bad for Camille being sheltered so much. =( |
| So it was really the typical rich family can't be seen with poor family because of status. I always feel sorry for the kids of rich families in such episodes. At least it looks like Claude finally understands now why she kept refusing his offers. I wonder if they will ever be at least friends again. =) |
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| iI'm shipping a ClaudexCamille ending, no matter how unlikely it will be. Also, don't know if this was brought up, but I am pretty damn sure Yune is the daughter of some prestigious Japanese noble. |
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BL2W said: I found Claude and Camille's relationship to be rather interesting, yet also heartbreaking. This:) shanimebib said: This 7.72/10 overall rating is getting on my nerves now <_< A very good episode. And it is by now obvious that Camille still loves Claude the way she did in her childhood. Was it just me, or Camille looked stunningly beautiful in this particular episode? Camille is always gorgeous. she was particularly beautiful with her sad eyes when she was dressing herself with the maid. Too bad they didnt include the scene of the manga where Yune talks about how much she loves the color of Camille´s eyes. And the rating is ridiculous. this deserved at least an 8 overall rating. honestly i think it depends on us! for us that we love this anime, there is three things we can do to help: - rate higher.(no matter what the end, this show wont get less than a 9 from me, btw). -spread the anime to our friends, convincing them to watch. - Make recommendations with other animes. This anime has almost no recs, besides Aria and Gosick and a few some. Linking it to more animes will help people finding this anime and trying to watch it;D @iam_onlive: |
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| This awesome background episode explained a lot of things. Poor Camille, having to stay at her house just to be free. Claude saying Normal at Yune's outfit flattered Yune? How interesting. |
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| Well those flashbacks with Camille and Claude sure was sweet but still sad at the same time. Felt really bad for Camille for what she's going through. Hmm so she's living and enduring her life for Alice and Claude. And thanks to Yune, Claude finally understands. Sad to say their relationship probably won't lead to anywhere anymore. :/ On a side note, Alice and Camille as kid are both just too cute, I can't stand it anymoree. |
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| I reaaaaally want a ClaudexCamille ending! D: And wow, Alice is so funny, she never ceases to put a smile on my face. |
| besides the fact that i STILL can't stand alice, it was a good episode. |
| Camille and Alice are both great.. its nice to see rich girls without arrogance and both cares for others in family and traditions like that. Sanguis said: I reaaaaally want a ClaudexCamille ending! D: Now that would make some really good drama with great ending. I'm sick of love triangles and predictable misunderstandings. some dramas should follow different route. |
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| Doleful. That's how I felt throughout this episode. Poor Camille and Claude. T-T I really wish for a nice ending with the two of them ending up together, but that probably won't happen. Especially since the manga is still ongoing and everything. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| Camilla X Claude is the way. Make it happen! |
| Fantastic background episode showing all the greatness of Camille. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| Alan ships Claude x Camille. game8910 said: On the lighter side, Alice continues being BASED. THIS. So much. |
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| I think Yune spelling it out in the end weakend this otherweise strong episode. Instead the memories he couldn't understand as a child should've made him realize the situation now. I doubt he'll get together with Camille. The bird in a golden cage theme is a good counterweight to the slice of life part. Anything more would probably harm that balance. |
I_am_onlive said: shanimebib said: A very good episode. And it is by now obvious that Camille still loves Claude the way she did in her childhood. Was it just me, or Camille looked stunningly beautiful in this particular episode? In this episode? When has Camille never looked beautiful before? I meant to say she looked more beautiful than she looked before this episode. More precisely, I meant this: Orulyon said: Camille is always gorgeous. she was particularly beautiful with her sad eyes when she was dressing herself with the maid. |
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CadarevAug 6, 2019 4:03 PM
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My Claude x Camille arc has shattered before my eyes!!! NOOOO!!!!!  Fak you Claude! Chase after her!! FAK YOU!!!  I want that Cinderella moment to happen damit!!!!And Yune, good work girl!!  |
| Looking at all the recent posts, seems that many of you guys are Claude/Camille shippers. *Sighs** Camille is really a gorgeous girl in my opinion, maybe the perfect partner for Claude perhaps (even their childhood story is cute), but there's just something within me that makes me wanna side YuneXClaude pairing more. I dunno...it's just that maybe I'm more interested seeing them together in the end... they may look father and daughter right now, but I still think a budding romance isn't impossible to develop between them... |
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| I suspect that Yune already knows about Claude and Camille's feelings for each other and would be working to try and bring them together, rather than build a relationship with Claude herself. And as per suggestions higher in this discussion, I've just done my preliminary rating as a 9 to help raise the score. I may well up that by the end. This really is charming.... |
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| No effort to write post, gonna quote stuff nznznz said: I doubt he'll get together with Camille. The bird in a golden cage theme is a good counterweight to the slice of life part. Anything more would probably harm that balance. Yes, this indeed. And besides it's not like they would have a chance to be together even if they tried... unless Camille's parents died maybe? shanimebib said: Oh, and count me in for that.I meant to say she looked more beautiful than she looked before this episode. More precisely, I meant this: Orulyon said: Camille is always gorgeous. she was particularly beautiful with her sad eyes when she was dressing herself with the maid. |
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| That's it I'm shipping for ClaudeXCamille Camille is such a bishoujo. |
tsubasalover said: Alice is happy about Yune is wearing her childhood friend. Tea ceremony time. Contemporary Maccha Milk! Camille love Claude and describes him as cat living outside. Camille was just a girl who cannot get out of outside, but always dreams of getting outside. Claude was just wanted to help out but Camille always refuses. Not sure if he understands her feeling. So Camille has been out once. Wow, father Claude! Claude finally understood Camille after what Yune said. lol @ Claude saying "normal" to Alice and Camille's dress on Yune. Next ep. is more on Claude papa! Oh okay I see2 what is going on(sorry I didn't really understood what is going on with both Claude and Camille but thank you for explaining it) |
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| Before I say anything, I am loving the clarinet BGM ;3 If only I could play that well >_< Anyways ... wow, I loved this episode. Poor Camille! D; The whole corset imagery, not being able to go outside ... seems like Claude didn't understand why until now :( Oh my god I so want to ship them T_T The one time I actually want there to be like a "love helps you over the misunderstandings" or whatever it probably won't happen ... *sigh* Claude's dad looks exactly like him lol O_O Guess we get to see him next episode :P |
I_am_onlive said: OrochiPL said: No effort to write post, gonna quote stuff nznznz said: I doubt he'll get together with Camille. The bird in a golden cage theme is a good counterweight to the slice of life part. Anything more would probably harm that balance. Yes, this indeed. And besides it's not like they would have a chance to be together even if they tried... unless Camille's parents died maybe? That could be likely but you my friend are not the artist nor can you guarantee what will be shown next in this show. My bet from the beginning was Claude x Camille and that is exactly what was shown. And now Claude wishes to know more about Camille, indicating that he will go back to her and start over. You sound kind of pissed, hm? It's not like it's impossible but from what we've seen so far I say it's unlikely. What gives you the impression Claude wants to know more or even start over again? I didn't see any indication for that so consider this wishful thinking. This development will probably go on but my bet is on a conclusion like "we can't be together, but will stay close friends (in secret)". This is not a romance after all. |
nznzAug 31, 2011 6:20 PM
I_am_onlive said: Did you even hear what he said at the end of the episode? He misunderstood everything Camille was trying to say when she was younger, but then when he did he said "Maybe I have more to learn". In the manga he says "I guess I need to know more now". He is also suspected by Oscar, his grandfather to be doing this as well in Chapter 7. On their way back home he first said to Yune: "You trust people to easily" so I take his reply more like admiting he also has to learn and misjudges situations sometimes, not just Yune. Even the sentence in the manga can't be interpreted that he wants anything more than understanding her behaviour back then and maybe mend their broken friendship. Oscar makes this kind of remarks all the time. |
otakuthon49 said: This awesome background episode explained a lot of things. Poor Camille, having to stay at her house just to be free. Claude saying Normal at Yune's outfit flattered Yune? How interesting. He always looks at her as if she was different, i think hearing that she looked normal made her feel good! |
| More Camille x Claude goodness. It's too bad they might not end up together. |
| More on the sad side this episode but it was still nice. |
Onyxthegreat said: So it was really the typical rich family can't be seen with poor family because of status. I always feel sorry for the kids of rich families in such episodes. At least it looks like Claude finally understands now why she kept refusing his offers. I wonder if they will ever be at least friends again. =) I don't think they really 'ceased' being 'friends' as they both still care for one another but have had a misunderstanding that was maybe a crack turn into the grand canyon lol. A simple real* conversation could mend said rift. I certainly hope to see more Claude and Camille. I don't think Claude was the only one who had a realization though, it seemed to me like Camille had one herself back in episode 8 . Though Claudes may have been more personally 'profound' I assume they will mend said friendship and likely be close again though whether or not it is 'secret' aside from a select few? who knows - Alice certainly seems to think Should pick him as her 'lover' ;) |
sirwenceSep 4, 2011 2:05 AM
| That bicycle puts the setting of the story close to 1896! That type of bike was "new" around 1887. |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| The backstory of Claude was pretty bleh to me. All I wanted to see more of was Alice and Yune. I hope that Camille and Claude do not end up together; Camille deserves much more than an alley cat. |
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| Another sweet episode. I love Claude and Camille. It's too bad things didn't go so well for them; that was expected though, all things considered... With all that backstory stuff, I completely forgot about Yune and Alice; they surprised me at the end. Whoops. ^_^V |
| Though this is a series about Yune, I quite like how we're getting some good development for Claude, Alice, and Camille as well. Their actions seem to make more and more sense as the series unfolds. I've written more on this episode here on my blog. |
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