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amirhossAug 3, 2011 9:41 AM
| its just confusing now. |
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gmgkng said: its just confusing now. It really is. So the king will die just like that, becouse of the poison?? Eeeeh... |
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| Strange chapter, really confusing. No Gon or Killua, and the King is probably going to die just because of poison. But Togashi is a genius, he managed to show that people are worse creatures than ants. |
| i waited a year for this? |
| is it me or the art looks better ? |
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| well he was not wrong in saying that humans are cruel. in fact ants are the more merciful. they have the decency to clean after your corpse. where we just kill you and throw you in the ditch...if you're lucky. but that bit was more preachy than relevant. and the poison in the end was not properly explained. |
| Well, at least he didn't pull up a Yuyu Hakusho on that one. Though that chapter wasn't really good either. Why do they even want to gain time if the King is about to die ? Why didn't they just bomb him in the first place ? And what is with that part about ants/humans' cruelty ? That's stupid. The following pages were properly inane, especially coming from a guy who just did fucking nothing and lived off his royalties and stuff for more than a year (give or take a few months). Hopefully he'll get back on his feet (we're all used to these "below average" moments in HxH ever since the beginning of the Chimaera arc) . . . next week. And this time, no more sudden hiatus out of nowhere, pretty please. |
| I'm stoked the series is back and I hope he doesn't go on another year and a half hiatus again at least until he finishes this arc off properly. Also I want to see some interrogation by the king it should be interesting. |
| Man at first I was kind of confused while reading the chapter so I had to go back and read a bunch of chapter that came before this one... anyway it was an ok chapter.. and im not really sad that the king will die soon because the ant arc was the one I liked the least so the fact that it will end does not really annoy me |
Tchako said: Why do they even want to gain time if the King is about to die ? Why didn't they just bomb him in the first place ? They want to buy time since the king has Knuckle and Melereon (or whatever his name is). He could easily kill them, or a lot of other people for that matter, before he dies if they don't try to stall him. As for not bombing him in the first place, I can only guess that Pitou would know the bomb was coming since he/she was using his en at the time, which would have given the king time to get away. Tchako said: especially coming from a guy who just did nothing and lived off his royalties and stuff for more than a year (give or take a few months)......And this time, no more sudden hiatus out of nowhere, pretty please. How do you know he wasn't doing anything? Since he doesn't use assistants, he can't keep up the schedule of a weekly manga, which is the reason for all of the hiatus', so they don't really come out of nowhere. For all we know he could have been using part of this last year to draw chapters and get ahead a little. I don't know, but I'm quite certain you don't either. |
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| It should've ended with Kurapica vs kumo. Like that with no how gon becomes hunter or whatever. |
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| *Sheds a tear* Finally its back. Not a bad chapter. Didn't think he would speed up this arc this fast though. Wasn't expecting this direction. Man I'm glad I re-read some chapters, its been so long that I could have forgotten what has happen. Now last chapter makes sense. I thought that guy bested Yupi even with his weaker strength he shouldn't have lost, but with this revelation in this chapter. I see now since they help out the King, Yupi was also suffering from the poison. Donni_DaRkO said: is it me or the art looks better ? Usually seems to always look better when Togashi returns from a hiatus, which is why people usually forgive him when he comes back. |
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| @mrDovydas lol yeah. He did the same thing in Yu Yu Hakusho. Maybe Togashi really believes that humans are cruel in real life and puts it into his work because he did the same thing in Yu Yu saying that humans can be worse than demons in the Sensui arc. Anyways words can't explain how happy I was when I saw that the chapter was out today. I was more surprised than anything and while I was reading I was like since this arc is ending soon they might start another OVA and what do you know. At the end of the chapter it shows that an anime is coming out. Although I didn't really like this chapter I'm expected good things out of HxH. It's on my top manga list up there will One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist and Bakuman and it's originality and genius is always a plus. Please no more hiatuses and is it just me but I think he should get some assistants so we can see less hiatuses. He isn't getting any younger. |
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| HxH IS BACK!! :D It was an OK chapter. Can't really say anything that hasn't been mentioned already. |
They're really driving home the Chimera Ants' doom aren't they. When the hell did this get so inevitable? |
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Babels said: mrDovydas said: Strange chapter, really confusing. No Gon or Killua, and the King is probably going to die just because of poison. But Togashi is a genius, he managed to show that people are worse creatures than ants. I must have missed that part. I just saw a person being hid in a box for a while to save the lives of many other people (Wow, that's really cruel) and a bunch of people who are sad (If they're worse than ants, then why should we care?) and then a bunch of people who are happy and apparently not sharing their wealth. OK, fine. If Togashi thinks that being a bleeding heart is more important than storytelling, great. So how about donating some of his own money to a good cause? How about "all the proceeds from manga vol. whatever are going to charity"? He certainly doesn't seem to need the money, given that he can take long breaks whenever he likes. As it is, it just seems like Togashi is trying to reprimand his readers for being wealthy and horrible and buying leisure items like manga. Whats the matter? Feeling guilty? Its because Togashi cares about high quality story telling that he made this chapter the way he did. Its not about who is "better" humans or ants, Togashi is facing the reader with the reality of human cruelty. In real life human beings truly are vastly more cruel than any other animal, of course, not everyone is cruel, but some of us are, so what right do we have to judge Chimera ants and call them monsters. The same goes for judging other countries, ethnicities whatever. No human being has the right to dehumanize another. I believe thats part of Togashi's message. The cruelty he depicted is more than about income inequality, he depicted police brutality, oppression, war on top of the the realities of the rose bomb which is essentially an exagerated nuclear bomb. I think you've got a lot of nerve making assumption about Togashi's finances. Do you know how much he gives to charity? Do you know the people in his family he's supporting? Do you know how much he works on HxH during these Hiatus? I don't know the answers to these questions but unless you do I don't think you have any right to criticize him about it. If he's reprimanding anyone it might have to do with how ethical the practices are of the corporations involved in the manga industry as opposed to individual readers I think this was a very profound chapter, apparently its gone over a lot of people's heads on MAL, but I for one am truly impressed by it. |
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| To be fair, though, these comment were when the manga first ran these chapters and they apparently just came off a hiatus. It probably was tough to completely wrap your head around all of this if things aren't fresh on your mind. Me, though? I think this shit is brilliant. Like Ikalgo (or Palm? I'm not sure) said, "we're cruel you know. No different from the ants. No, even worse!" And, then those panels. Man, good stuff. Hopefully I'll be able to come up with more in the episode discussion, haha. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
DaydreamHero said: Thank you! At least one person gets it. I can't believe the simplicity of everyone's comments on here. It's like people just want to read battles and that's all. "Where's my Gon vs the King" "rant, rant." Go read Dragon Ball or Bleach if that's what you want. This is all brilliant story telling and people criticizing it for what reason, because it doesn't follow all of the battle manga cliches.... Ridiculous.Babels said: I must have missed that part. I just saw a person being hid in a box for a while to save the lives of many other people (Wow, that's really cruel) and a bunch of people who are sad (If they're worse than ants, then why should we care?) and then a bunch of people who are happy and apparently not sharing their wealth. OK, fine. If Togashi thinks that being a bleeding heart is more important than storytelling, great. So how about donating some of his own money to a good cause? How about "all the proceeds from manga vol. whatever are going to charity"? He certainly doesn't seem to need the money, given that he can take long breaks whenever he likes. As it is, it just seems like Togashi is trying to reprimand his readers for being wealthy and horrible and buying leisure items like manga. Whats the matter? Feeling guilty? Its because Togashi cares about high quality story telling that he made this chapter the way he did. Its not about who is "better" humans or ants, Togashi is facing the reader with the reality of human cruelty. In real life human beings truly are vastly more cruel than any other animal, of course, not everyone is cruel, but some of us are, so what right do we have to judge Chimera ants and call them monsters. The same goes for judging other countries, ethnicities whatever. No human being has the right to dehumanize another. I believe thats part of Togashi's message. The cruelty he depicted is more than about income inequality, he depicted police brutality, oppression, war on top of the the realities of the rose bomb which is essentially an exagerated nuclear bomb. I think you've got a lot of nerve making assumption about Togashi's finances. Do you know how much he gives to charity? Do you know the people in his family he's supporting? Do you know how much he works on HxH during these Hiatus? I don't know the answers to these questions but unless you do I don't think you have any right to criticize him about it. If he's reprimanding anyone it might have to do with how ethical the practices are of the corporations involved in the manga industry as opposed to individual readers I think this was a very profound chapter, apparently its gone over a lot of people's heads on MAL, but I for one am truly impressed by it. |
| The whole theme of humans being as evil, or worse than ants has been pretty clear throughout the arc. But it's great to have it spelled out this way in the end. Those pages with the hypocrisy and horrors of humanity are great. The bomb being the ultimate evil is of course referencing the nuclear bombs, a big part of Japanese culture. This is one thing I actually even really liked back when this chapter first came out. I never understood the people that wanted a Gon vs Meruem fight instead of this. The poisoning is a great plot twist, and I like how you can suspect it already in the previous chapter with the nosebleeds of Meruem and Youpi. |
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