| H there, this is an old show and it gets some of the best ratings and reviews. It is a long anime so I thought I'dgetsome words of advice. Isthis a showwhere you would have to be the type to enjoy space shows like Star Wars/trek, general military etc to get into? I have watched a few mech animes, but I did find the mech/military aspect extremely boring and usually it was the side supernatural/sci-fi side with weird plot twists that kept me interested. From what I understand, this show won't have any of that, but be pretty much straight forward space-war. I guess I am asking, is that its big selling point or does it have something else going for it other than strategic combat//decisioning - as if it is spaceships vs spaceships, I would find it hard to enjoy. Unlike others tbough, I am not bothered about art one bit. |
| mmm sort of, not really though. Its not a mech anime, but if has a lot of space battles, kinda like the military strategy and tactical battles that you read about in history (think WW I, napolean and stuff). The author was inspired more from the epic of three kingdoms and it would be more accurate to think of it as a 21st century space opera version of that. There's not really a sci-fi side to the story either, in fact you could set the story in some obscure period of history and it would still probably have the same effect in terms of plot. I'd recommend reading some reviews on it, as this show has some of the best reviews on MAL. But if you're feeling lazy I'll borrow some parts of reviews here that might help answer your questions: . santetjan said: A large part of the series is devoted to showing the war and its subsequent smaller-scale rumblings. The war is fully shown from the side of the commanding officers - one of only a very few shows to do so - and does show an appropriate sense of scale. With battles involving thousands of battleships and millions of men, simple depictions of large-scale tactics take the place of views of the battlefield itself, and a considerable part of the show is, laudable, devoted to discussions on logistics and military intelligence. A larger part still, though, is devoted to discussions on politics, all within the greater autocracy versus democracy question. Again, these thoughts never go very deep, but what strikes one is that so very many possible variables are brought up. Almost any motive of rulers or the general populace that might affect a political decision is included at some point in the show, making me at least think to myself: 'They even thought of thát one.' The show does tend, here and there, to lean toward the old 'good soldier, bad politician' cliché, but, overall, it really lacks a clear villain, instead showing each possible side (apart, perhaps, from religious fanatics) from every possible angle. beatnik said: This war anime not once glorifies or makes the idea of war 'cool' at all. For all the talk of the Gundam franchise putting a more serious face on war in the medium of animation, it still had a kid piloting a mecha day in day out with funky soundtrack accompanying the action scenes. Not to discredit Gundam at all, as its always laid a huge burden on its kid protagonists, but in LotGH there is no subtle or overt undercurrent to the action, it is what it is: millions of people dying over and over again, mostly to the impartially beautiful and tragic classical score that the viewer can take one way or the other. That is to say, beautiful or tragic... If you do decide to give it a try, start with "my conquest is the sea of stars", then watch "overture to a new war", and if at that point you dislike the series, you would probably not like the main OVA either, since those two movies are pretty good. If you do like it then watch the main series and save the rest for later. |
eyerokMay 23, 2011 1:19 AM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| no,i'd say the main genre of this should be drama/slice of life i enjoyed it alot and i don't like mechs,so go for it! :) just please be patient,this anime has a pretty boring start |
Sayonara,papa! "Just how a mirror reflects you,people will also reflect your heart." ~Athena Glory,Aria "Whatever happens,happens" ~Spike Spiegel's thoughts on dying(Cowboy Bebop) |
| Judging from your list, this is the complete opposite of what you normally watch. And honestly, it probably won't be your thing. I think people can appreciate and enjoy it's achievements and depth without being terribly familiar with Space Operas. But this is definitely for history buffs/political science enthusiast first and foremost. I'll be the first to admit that I don't really enjoy space operas, or the more traditional form of science fiction. But LOGH has what few other anime has; awareness. It's aware of what it mimics, and it's aware that history has repeated itself in such disturbingly consistent situations that resemble the story of LOGH. If you don't really go for something that stares at human nature right in the face, then I doubt you'll enjoy it. But really, we can't fully decide this for you, you just have to try it yourself. I could be totally wrong and it might end up as one of your all time favorites, who really knows. |
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| To be honest, don't look too much into my list, I don't really mind any genres and I am not THAT critical, I can find enjoyment from most animes - I just noticed in general that mech/military, and possibly zombies, are the only genres which I don't get a long with. Even when wathing CG or FMP, half the time, I just don't have a clue who is fighting for who, simply because I feign concentration during those mech battles subconciously, just get bored. I typically am not an action, but mech action is total snooze for me. But thanks for your opinions. One thing with me is, even when I dislike an anime, I can't drop animes lol, so watch them to the end, especially ones which are high rated - and usually end up enjoying them. I only had reservations about this one because a) Its very old b) Straight forward war/political/space/mech/military without supernatural/sci-fi and c) 110 eps lol and thats excluding the movies/OVA's side etc. |
| I know this is unrelated to the topic, but it just sounds like you got off on the wrong foot with the mecha genre. CG is a complete trainwreck of a plot, and FMP is just whatever(to me at least, maybe that one spin off is actually pretty funny) Either way, LOGH is plenty coherent with the plot, and they always explain their reasonings behind their own actions. Even if you accidentally wander elsewhere, you always get the main gist of what's going on by the end of the episode. |
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| If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. |
Confucius said: If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. That's retarded, I've known plenty of people who've liked all, or at least most of those, and still like LoGH. And, just because someone dislikes all those shows doesn't mean they'll necessarily like LOGH either. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: Confucius said: If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. That's retarded, I've known plenty of people who've liked all, or at least most of those, and still like LoGH. And, just because someone dislikes all those shows doesn't mean they'll necessarily like LOGH either. I'm glad someone said that so I don't have to. OT: I would think that at least some interest in either the Political or Military aspects of the show would be a minimum requirement if you are to enjoy it. Without that I can see you being more bored than you were by the Mecha battles in Code Geass. |
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insan3soldiern said: Confucius said: If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. That's retarded, I've known plenty of people who've liked all, or at least most of those, and still like LoGH. And, just because someone dislikes all those shows doesn't mean they'll necessarily like LOGH either. Are you sure you are one of us?! What happened to the honor code? Why can't you take a joke =(? |
Confucius said: insan3soldiern said: Confucius said: If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. That's retarded, I've known plenty of people who've liked all, or at least most of those, and still like LoGH. And, just because someone dislikes all those shows doesn't mean they'll necessarily like LOGH either. Are you sure you are one of us?! What happened to the honor code? Why can't you take a joke =(? TBH I agree with insan3soldiern, I like death note and I'm really loving Gintama right now. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Confucius himself gave Death Note a 9. Is there any particular reason you're so hell-bent on giving the LOGH fanbase a bad name? |
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Confucius said: If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. I agree |
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Hias said: Confucius said: If you hate Code Geass, Death Note, Gintama, or anything that is on MAL's list of "high ratings", you will definitively like LoGH. I agree Those are all very good shows, though none can even be compared to the greatness of LOGH. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Topgunuk69 said: It's obviously all a part of his plan to turn the Anime Populists and the LoGH Elitists against each other.Is there any particular reason you're so hell-bent on giving the LOGH fanbase a bad name? |
DrHouse said: Topgunuk69 said: It's obviously all a part of his plan to turn the Anime Populists and the LoGH Elitists against each other.Is there any particular reason you're so hell-bent on giving the LOGH fanbase a bad name? I bet he's got an alt account that he uses to praise Code Geass. He plays both sides against each other like Rubinsky and sits back to watch the fireworks with a satisfied smirk on his face. |
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Topgunuk69 said: DrHouse said: Topgunuk69 said: It's obviously all a part of his plan to turn the Anime Populists and the LoGH Elitists against each other.Is there any particular reason you're so hell-bent on giving the LOGH fanbase a bad name? I bet he's got an alt account that he uses to praise Code Geass. He plays both sides against each other like Rubinsky and sits back to watch the fireworks with a satisfied smirk on his face. While slowly dying of an incurable sickness. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Topgunuk69 said: Confucius himself gave Death Note a 9. I change my ratings from time to time. Death Note oscillates 8 to 9 for me, so you will see both numbers occasionally. Topgunuk69 said: Is there any particular reason you're so hell-bent on giving the LOGH fanbase a bad name? I am just trying to unify the LoGH fanbase universe under my rule. DrHouse said: It's obviously all a part of his plan to turn the Anime Populists and the LoGH Elitists against each other. Shut up Oberstein |
| If you like good anime that stands on it's own without pandering to ANYONE, and instead decides to focus on telling a compelling tale, you'll like LOGH. |
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| All anime fans are fags, especially the ones who don't use torrents to download their anime. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
koreye said: All anime fans are fags, especially the ones who don't use torrents to download their anime. LOl.. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
koreye said: All anime fans are fags, especially the ones who don't use torrents to download their anime. I agree. Those people are SCUMBAGS. |
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Hias said: koreye said: All anime fans are fags, especially the ones who don't use torrents to download their anime. I agree. Those people are SCUMBAGS. :( |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
koreye said: All anime fans are fags, especially the ones who don't use torrents to download their anime. Realtalk. Deal with it. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
koreye said: All anime fans are fags, especially the ones who don't use torrents to download their anime. Trolling fail'd. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/profile/Heibi He has links on his profile, because he's the leader of Central Anime (who provide the onyl decent subs of the series). But it looks like so far only Season 1-3 have DDL, so you'll either have to wait for the remasters to finish or download Season 4 by torrent. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: http://myanimelist.net/profile/Heibi He has links on his profile, because he's the leader of Central Anime (who provide the onyl decent subs of the series). But it looks like so far only Season 1-3 have DDL, so you'll either have to wait for the remasters to finish or download Season 4 by torrent. The heart of CA! Are there any "mecha" in this? I don't think the spaceships and death star wars count |
Confucius said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: http://myanimelist.net/profile/Heibi He has links on his profile, because he's the leader of Central Anime (who provide the onyl decent subs of the series). But it looks like so far only Season 1-3 have DDL, so you'll either have to wait for the remasters to finish or download Season 4 by torrent. The heart of CA! Are there any "mecha" in this? I don't think the spaceships and death star wars count Um yes they do count. They're mechanical. They're not giant robots, if that's what you're probably thinking. |
Mechablitz said: Confucius said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: http://myanimelist.net/profile/Heibi He has links on his profile, because he's the leader of Central Anime (who provide the onyl decent subs of the series). But it looks like so far only Season 1-3 have DDL, so you'll either have to wait for the remasters to finish or download Season 4 by torrent. The heart of CA! Are there any "mecha" in this? I don't think the spaceships and death star wars count Um yes they do count. They're mechanical. They're not giant robots, if that's what you're probably thinking. Well no, they don't count. Since Mecha is just a term used to refer to piloted walking machines when it comes to Anime. Otherwise every Anime with a mechanical clock is now Mecha. |
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Topgunuk69 said: Mechablitz said: Confucius said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: http://myanimelist.net/profile/Heibi He has links on his profile, because he's the leader of Central Anime (who provide the onyl decent subs of the series). But it looks like so far only Season 1-3 have DDL, so you'll either have to wait for the remasters to finish or download Season 4 by torrent. The heart of CA! Are there any "mecha" in this? I don't think the spaceships and death star wars count Um yes they do count. They're mechanical. They're not giant robots, if that's what you're probably thinking. Well no, they don't count. Since Mecha is just a term used to refer to piloted walking machines when it comes to Anime. Otherwise every Anime with a mechanical clock is now Mecha. In Japan, the term mecha refers to anything mechanical. LOGH has mecha as one of its themes, along with slice of life, politics etc. |
| Did someone just said "mecha"? Damn, I need new battletech animu... Or new mechwarrior game at least :| FFFUUUUUUUUU....... |
| Nah, don't see no mecha in LotGH. They're just regular spaceships. 'Mecha' is basically an extension of the human body in some manner. And don't throw semantic arguments at me about how people control spaceships like they're extensions of the body like penises or something. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure LoGH isn't mecha at all. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| LoGH isn't Mecha at all, that's like saying that Star Trek is Mecha. As for having to be into Space, well Space is usually associated with aliens and there's no such thing in LoGH, only humans. Being into Military? Not really, I wasn't a very big Military fan before watching this show and yet loved it, the main characters aren't the stereotypical over nationalistic/patriotic type of soldiers so this show is a breath of fresh air compared to most other Military shows/movies. The battles aren't even the most interesting parts of the show. |
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Cowabunga said: The battles aren't even the most interesting parts of the show. Qft It's all about the epic dialog |
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chankljp said: I think of this show as 'Game of Thrones IN SPACE!!!' or 'Star Wars for political/military nerds'. This is a very old thread, but pretty much this. |
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| I've enjoyed it for the same reasons, but I can see someone not into politics, sci-fi or a lot of talking be bored by this. |
| I've always been totally into mecha and space stuff so I would say yes, but this show is so good that you probably don't even need to necessarily like those genres to enjoy it. |
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| I'm not hugely into military stuff(especially space) or politics but I found this to be an amazing series full of great characters. I guess I'm interested just enough for me to watch it. This series is definitely not for everyone. Plus, I've not watched many series with so many great quotes as this, I lost track of them in the end. |
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