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Jul 13, 7:36 PM
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add trigger warnings like on sexual assault or rape if you cannot add it as tags

https://wholepicturetoolkit.org.uk/in-production/work-well-with-vulnerable-contributors-and-sensitive-content/trigger-warning-guidance-and-sample-wording/

trigger warning examples

sexual assault
abuse
child abuse, paedophilia and incest
animal cruelty and animal death
self harm
suicide
eating disorders, body hatred and fat phobia
violence
pornographic content
kidnapping and abduction
death and dying
pregnancy and childbirth
miscarriages
abortion
blood
mental illness
racism and racial slurs
sexism and misogyny
classism
torture
islamophobia and anti semitism
hateful language directed at religious groups
transphobia and transmisogyny
homophobia and heterosexism

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Jul 13, 8:25 PM
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With this, Bible Black is going to be up to like 50 tags!!! 😂

Gauidy to Deg when the rape fantasy tag is added to the database 😂😂


Jul 13, 8:30 PM
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With this, Bible Black is going to be up to like 50 tags!!! 😂

Gauidy to Deg when the rape fantasy tag is added to the database 😂😂


@Shishio-kun lol just helping those users that are too sensitive for rape fantasy
Jul 13, 8:43 PM
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@Shishio-kun lol just helping those users that are too sensitive for rape fantasy
@deg

I agree, pretty much every tag/genre/demo should be added if it's for some specific trait!

It should be an easy add too, since every series with the "ogre" or "goblin" tag is going to have the rape tag with it too lol

They're too sensitive because they didnt grow up getting all their anime from unregulated imported VHS tapes😂
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I dont think rape fantasy is the right term to use because some people will completely misuse this tagging anything with rape or even accidental groping as "rape fantasy"
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>dark fantasy
>sword art online

yeah stfu, villains do villain stuff deal with it
Jul 15, 1:01 AM
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>dark fantasy
>sword art online

yeah stfu, villains do villain stuff deal with it
@mayoiko did you fully read my first post?
Jul 15, 1:12 AM
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@mayoiko did you fully read my first post?
@deg yes and i summarized it beautifully
Jul 15, 1:18 AM
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@deg yes and i summarized it beautifully
@mayoiko nah you do not get it you just think i attack your favorite anime sword art online alone
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@deg
Wait until they find out what the heroes do!

Jul 15, 1:25 AM
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@deg
Wait until they find out what the heroes do!

@Shishio-kun is that rapeman? i have to watch that hentai sometime lol
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@Shishio-kun is that rapeman? i have to watch that hentai sometime lol
@deg

Rapeman?! No, this is Rakeman Enterprises.. we sell rakes.. only rakes...
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@mayoiko nah you do not get it you just think i attack your favorite anime sword art online alone
@deg i dont even like sao, its literally so mid, its ridiculous that you mention sao and dandadan as your example of "dark fantasy" because they are not dark fantasy.
examples of actual dark fantasy: berserk, hellsing, devilman
example of rape fantasy: literally just hentai with rape
these are the only reasonable labeling if the tags actually implemented

anime like sao and dandadan are not the kind of anime with dark fantasy theme, nor it is about rape

if we label these regular anime with dark fantasy and rape fantasy tags its simply MISLEADING, therefore USELESS, therefore STUPID.

i dont take your post seriously because you are ridiculous, and nobody has to accommodate people who cant separate fiction and real life because that is ridiculous.

here is a simple solution to your problem of sensitive people encountering those rape scenario: close and drop the anime thats it.

you dont even know what youre talking about and youre suggesting idea that wouldve been a waste of time like the admins dont already have more important workloads
Jul 15, 5:11 AM
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mayoiko said:
here is a simple solution to your problem of sensitive people encountering those rape scenario: close and drop the anime thats it.


not gonna happen complains and vote brigading will continue to happen because of this problem thats why the tags needs updating

tags needs to be informative like being specific so that users know what to expect more

the anime i listed are the ones getting this problems

but you make it sound im forcing this change its just a suggestion so chill with the emotional overreaction youre going for
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mayoiko said:
here is a simple solution to your problem of sensitive people encountering those rape scenario: close and drop the anime thats it.


not gonna happen complains and vote brigading will continue to happen because of this problem thats why the tags needs updating

tags needs to be informative like being specific so that users know what to expect more

the anime i listed are the ones getting this problems

but you make it sound im forcing this change its just a suggestion so chill with the emotional overreaction youre going for
@deg im only typing them in a way you can understand, because you dont have enough braincells to understand what i imply by saying ">dark fantasy >sao"

im sure you read what i said but ofc i need to say it again; even if those tags are implemented the anime you mentioned arent going to be labeled as such because they are not dark/rape fantasy anime, simple as.

if you need to avoid certain things, the forums exist to tell you when you ask for possible trigger warnings, putting tags on anime over thing that happens in one or two episode isnt a realistic task for volunteering admins to do.
Jul 15, 6:46 AM
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@deg im only typing them in a way you can understand, because you dont have enough braincells to understand what i imply by saying ">dark fantasy >sao"

im sure you read what i said but ofc i need to say it again; even if those tags are implemented the anime you mentioned arent going to be labeled as such because they are not dark/rape fantasy anime, simple as.

if you need to avoid certain things, the forums exist to tell you when you ask for possible trigger warnings, putting tags on anime over thing that happens in one or two episode isnt a realistic task for volunteering admins to do.
@mayoiko then they need more volunteers but they give strict requirements to hiring plus i remember they plan to add crowdsourcing of tags but they yet to add it even though that can help a lot well the dark mode took a decade to add here so maybe we gonna wait a decade for the new tag system https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2004234

also anilist has rape tag for example https://anilist.co/anime/11757/Sword-Art-Online/

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@mayoiko then they need more volunteers but they give strict requirements to hiring plus i remember they plan to add crowdsourcing of tags but they yet to add it even though that can help a lot well the dark mode took a decade to add here so maybe we gonna wait a decade for the new tag system https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2004234

also anilist has rape tag for example https://anilist.co/anime/11757/Sword-Art-Online/

@deg again, you just showed me proof that its not a good idea, that is simply misleading, crowdsourcing tags that came from diverse subjective opinions (instead of objective) can result in misleading and false labeling. "non consensual penetration" do not exist in SAO afaik, you just showed proof that it can indeed result to misleading info.

the admin selection is strict because you need to be an objective non-emotional person, because info should be objective and factual instead of opinionated. mal cant risk anyone messing up the database because they think their opinion is more important.

just because anilist have something that mal doesnt have, doesnt mean its better, and mal doesnt need to follow other websites style. you should try thinking more objectively on things instead of selfishly.
Jul 15, 9:50 PM
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@deg again, you just showed me proof that its not a good idea, that is simply misleading, crowdsourcing tags that came from diverse subjective opinions (instead of objective) can result in misleading and false labeling. "non consensual penetration" do not exist in SAO afaik, you just showed proof that it can indeed result to misleading info.

the admin selection is strict because you need to be an objective non-emotional person, because info should be objective and factual instead of opinionated. mal cant risk anyone messing up the database because they think their opinion is more important.

just because anilist have something that mal doesnt have, doesnt mean its better, and mal doesnt need to follow other websites style. you should try thinking more objectively on things instead of selfishly.
@mayoiko its funny you think im being selfish when i made this thread anyway attempted rape scenes are still link to rape and rape fantasy and im tired arguing more with you so i will leave here
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I was going to say age rating can fix all of this. But then again vigilante is pg13 and still contains an attempted sa scene.

Tbf bootleg kirishima turns into a much better character later on, it kinda made me forgot about what he did at the beginning.

But tagging it as rape fantasy makes it sound like it's centered on the theme of rape. Vigilante isn't about that. Neither does sao. Though, the villains in sao is disgustingly keen on assaulting girls. Which is why i stopped watching sao 3. Despite it having a better premise.

Idk but if rosen garten saga ever gets an anime. Tagging it as a rape fantasy would definitely help lol.
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@mayoiko its funny you think im being selfish when i made this thread anyway attempted rape scenes are still link to rape and rape fantasy and im tired arguing more with you so i will leave here
@deg the only reason you dont think youre not being selfish is because you have no self awareness, you have self centered mindset, you dont think about how subjectively opinionated it is to be labeling anime like sao and dandadan as a "rape fantasy", you dont think about the impact on keeping information factual and objective, you dont think about whether or not this is a rational workload for the volunteering admins. the only thing you think about when you thought this was a good idea was how it would help only a small amount of people who are too infantile to be able to tell the difference between fiction and reality, let alone objectively recognizing which anime is what theme.

here are points that i said many times that you need to take home:

  1. it would be misleading
  2. nobody has to accommodate childish people who are too incompetent to tell fiction and real life apart


they can simply not be lazy and ask questions about trigger warning in forums instead of demanding the website to be modified for them.
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@deg the only reason you dont think youre not being selfish is because you have no self awareness, you have self centered mindset, you dont think about how subjectively opinionated it is to be labeling anime like sao and dandadan as a "rape fantasy", you dont think about the impact on keeping information factual and objective, you dont think about whether or not this is a rational workload for the volunteering admins. the only thing you think about when you thought this was a good idea was how it would help only a small amount of people who are too infantile to be able to tell the difference between fiction and reality, let alone objectively recognizing which anime is what theme.

here are points that i said many times that you need to take home:

  1. it would be misleading
  2. nobody has to accommodate childish people who are too incompetent to tell fiction and real life apart


they can simply not be lazy and ask questions about trigger warning in forums instead of demanding the website to be modified for them.
@mayoiko the personal attacks are off the charts so judgmental just from an anime suggestion anyway bye again
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I was going to say age rating can fix all of this. But then again vigilante is pg13 and still contains an attempted sa scene.

Tbf bootleg kirishima turns into a much better character later on, it kinda made me forgot about what he did at the beginning.

But tagging it as rape fantasy makes it sound like it's centered on the theme of rape. Vigilante isn't about that. Neither does sao. Though, the villains in sao is disgustingly keen on assaulting girls. Which is why i stopped watching sao 3. Despite it having a better premise.

Idk but if rosen garten saga ever gets an anime. Tagging it as a rape fantasy would definitely help lol.
@Jakkun @deg

So how about
- grope (light)
- SA (medium)
- rape (Griffith)
Jul 16, 1:08 AM
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@Jakkun @deg

So how about
- grope (light)
- SA (medium)
- rape (Griffith)
@Shishio-kun ye i do not mind if there is severity of rape fantasy that would be more specific and helpful or like @Jakkun implied they simply can just adjust their age ratings here on mal
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@Shishio-kun ye i do not mind if there is severity of rape fantasy that would be more specific and helpful or like @Jakkun implied they simply can just adjust their age ratings here on mal
@deg

Huh? MAL? I'm not talking about that. They were literal suggestions for later 😈😈😈

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Huh? MAL? I'm not talking about that. They were literal suggestions for later 😈😈😈

@Shishio-kun i meant im fine with your suggestion to have severity of the dark sexual content or sex meter with grope (mild), sexual assault (mid), rape (severe)

or the staff can adjust the age ratings to higher ages
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@mayoiko the personal attacks are off the charts so judgmental just from an anime suggestion anyway bye again
@deg you take it as an "attack" because im right, do you expect to just post things and not get criticized for it? lol (its a rhetorical question no need to answer)
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@deg you take it as an "attack" because im right, do you expect to just post things and not get criticized for it? lol (its a rhetorical question no need to answer)
@mayoiko dude youre doing psychoanalysis already than sticking to the topic of suggestion sigh
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@Shishio-kun i meant im fine with your suggestion to have severity of the dark sexual content or sex meter with grope (mild), sexual assault (mid), rape (severe)

or the staff can adjust the age ratings to higher ages
deg said:
or the staff can adjust the age ratings to higher ages

again, suggesting the admins should provide misleading information, the one who decide on age ratings are original creator and publishers, not admins on database website.
Jul 16, 2:16 AM
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deg said:
or the staff can adjust the age ratings to higher ages

again, suggesting the admins should provide misleading information, the one who decide on age ratings are original creator and publishers, not admins on database website.
@mayoiko no mal have its own age ratings guideline here https://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=mpaa
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@mayoiko no mal have its own age ratings guideline here https://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=mpaa
@deg lol thats just age rating explanation, the one labeling each anime/manga age rating are still publishers
Jul 16, 2:30 AM
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@deg lol thats just age rating explanation, the one labeling each anime/manga age rating are still publishers
@mayoiko wut you can literally suggest changes to the age rating for example https://myanimelist.net/dbchanges.php?aid=10218&t=rating
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@mayoiko wut you can literally suggest changes to the age rating for example https://myanimelist.net/dbchanges.php?aid=10218&t=rating
@deg yes you can request changes or even add a whole new entry, but the only time its going to be approved is if its accurate based on factual data, you still cant change it to however you want
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@deg yes you can request changes or even add a whole new entry, but the only time its going to be approved is if its accurate based on factual data, you still cant change it to however you want
@mayoiko where is your proof that mal follows japanese publishers that you keep claiming
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@mayoiko where is your proof that mal follows japanese publishers that you keep claiming
@deg where is your proof that mal follows opinions instead of publishers information? youre just showing me features that exist only for fixing mistakes, did you think the age ratings on these anime here are based on the admins group meeting votes? lol

look at bibliographic information (publisher imprint) on a random sao LN and manga, age rating: 13+
google results about sao age rating: typically 13
age rating of sao in mal anime page: 13+

if you cant conclude that mal put info based on publishers information then idk what to tell you
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@deg where is your proof that mal follows opinions instead of publishers information? youre just showing me features that exist only for fixing mistakes, did you think the age ratings on these anime here are based on the admins group meeting votes? lol

look at bibliographic information (publisher imprint) on a random sao LN and manga, age rating: 13+
google results about sao age rating: typically 13
age rating of sao in mal anime page: 13+

if you cant conclude that mal put info based on publishers information then idk what to tell you
@mayoiko sigh im asking where is the proof for your claims and all you did is speculation ye youre not good with fact checking and you insist on facts
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@mayoiko sigh im asking where is the proof for your claims and all you did is speculation ye youre not good with fact checking and you insist on facts
@deg well where is YOUR proof? youre not good at thinking logically as i said before.
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@deg well where is YOUR proof? youre not good at thinking logically as i said before.
@mayoiko i already provided them but you have not instead just logical speculation like are you sure you know the age ratings on many english sites are from japanese standards and not western? again that is just speculation too so we need direct proof
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@mayoiko i already provided them but you have not instead just logical speculation like are you sure you know the age ratings on many english sites are from japanese standards and not western? again that is just speculation too so we need direct proof
@deg do you not think that the very anime that often gets complained about like sao would have age rating of R/R+ on mal already if mal actually follows opinions and ignores publishers information?

i already told you the request change feature is only there to fix mistake, you can go ahead request one for experiment and ask the admin who denies it for their reasoning, you can read it directly then
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If this happens add this tag to MADK.

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true, add shows like dandadan, an anime about various scenarios of rape, it is a rape hentai. If there is any scene = rape fantasy.

Miura wrote a rape fantasy hentai.

Add tags such as fatricide if any characters kill their bros/sis, add "slurs" if any characters say any slur and so on, add "cheating fantasy" if a character cheats their partner, add "masturbation" if there is any hint that a character fapped (like on EoE), add "homophobic fantasy" if a gay character gets killed, add "racism fantasy" if there is a racist character or any depiction of racism and so on.

Put tags on everything for anything that appears on all anime and manga, hundreds of tags if needed, even thousands of trigger warnings to infinitely cover anything that isnt entirely sanitized by the standards of anything that can be even remotely considered "not ok" to happen irl. Everything should accomodate hypersensitive people
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If you start adding a bunch of tags that tell you specific events that will occurs in the show, then you need to also add a filter for people that care more about spoilers than trigger warnings.
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If you start adding a bunch of tags that tell you specific events that will occurs in the show, then you need to also add a filter for people that care more about spoilers than trigger warnings.
@niconiconii27 ye trigger warning section is better like maybe add it with a spoiler of the contents of it
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Zoomers are such snowflakes, they are even too afraid to write rape on forums and they just write "SA" instead.
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We also need an antiwhite or feminist warning. Lol
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true, add shows like dandadan, an anime about various scenarios of rape, it is a rape hentai. If there is any scene = rape fantasy.

Miura wrote a rape fantasy hentai.

Add tags such as fatricide if any characters kill their bros/sis, add "slurs" if any characters say any slur and so on, add "cheating fantasy" if a character cheats their partner, add "masturbation" if there is any hint that a character fapped (like on EoE), add "homophobic fantasy" if a gay character gets killed, add "racism fantasy" if there is a racist character or any depiction of racism and so on.

Put tags on everything for anything that appears on all anime and manga, hundreds of tags if needed, even thousands of trigger warnings to infinitely cover anything that isnt entirely sanitized by the standards of anything that can be even remotely considered "not ok" to happen irl. Everything should accomodate hypersensitive people
@INoLuv go outside
INoLuv said:
Everything should accomodate hypersensitive people

hypersensitive people need to grow some skin and grow tf up like normal people.
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Zoomers are such snowflakes, they are even too afraid to write rape on forums and they just write "SA" instead.
@JoeChip they are raped generation, all these people here who say some mid shounen anime as rape fantasy and ask for bajillion trigger warnings, they all have raped mentality
Jul 16, 8:43 PM
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@INoLuv go outside
INoLuv said:
Everything should accomodate hypersensitive people

hypersensitive people need to grow some skin and grow tf up like normal people.
@mayoiko thats clearly a sarcasm post youre replying to
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@mayoiko thats clearly a sarcasm post youre replying to
@deg i dont think it was sarcasm thanks to my interaction with you and bunch of hypersensitive people on twitter, i would be happy if that was actually sarcasm
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@deg i dont think it was sarcasm thanks to my interaction with you and bunch of hypersensitive people on twitter, i would be happy if that was actually sarcasm
@mayoiko ok i got bad social skills but you got it worse then
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@mayoiko ok i got bad social skills but you got it worse then
@deg care to explain why you have almost 106k posts on here, i dont think you have bad social skill
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