2024 United States presidential election

https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1776996103457550563

Trump's 2nd-term economic agenda would hurt workers & kids to help the rich. He wants to:

-Cut taxes more for the rich
-Defund the IRS so the rich can cheat
-End student loan forgiveness
-End overtime rules
-Slash school lunches
-Allow child labor
-Weaken unions

Be warned.

@deg You actually so believe that? And you actually posted a tweet form socialist grifter? For real?

@Piromysl im left leaning politically

@deg You actually so believe that? And you actually posted a tweet form socialist grifter? For real?

@deg Nowhere it mentions that little kids will be forced to work, which lying mainstream media wants you to belive. They do this disingenuous stuff literally all the time.



You fell for the most common deception, which is only reading inflated headline, because they know perfectly well that vast majority of people will read only that and nothing else.
And believe it or not, Reich makes similar lies in other points he listed.

My point is that by using deceptive language and half truths they want you to belive that a literal elementary schoolers will be forced to work. In a society we tend to differentiate between child and teenager. They know that perfectly well, so they decided to not include the very crucial detail, that the bill is only about almost adult teenagers.

Well, in that case it seems they are entirely lying, because bill applies only to 16-17 yo.

And that was my point. They are using deceptive language language because they want you to belive Trumps what little kids to work like in Chinese sweatshops, which is simply not true.

I wouldn't vote for normies.


It is literally what the laws are called in the US. I dont really like referring to all minors as "children" but that's just how it is. Has nothing to do with politics. There is literally no lying there, they even went into detail exactly what that entailed. If there was an attempt at deception details of ages would be left out from the article itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labor_laws_in_the_United_States

Also deg never said "force" he said "allow". Maybe you are confusing child labor laws with labor trafficking laws

I dont care about the age but do you unironically support people working hazardous equipment that can injure them or the patient with no training?

And by the way things like this do occur.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-dhs-investigating-human-trafficking-children-slaughterhouses-rcna66081

What you were calling a "mainstream news network" isnt even a news network it is a nonprofit group that has been around for 50 years focused on labor laws. Just answer the simple question. Do you or do you not support untrained while unsupervised employees using dangerous machinery? Yes or no

I mean, I someone who lives in post communistic country, seeing what happens in America is very harrowing. I may sound paranoid, but they already managed to convince people that "they are rich because you are poor", which is the fundamental grift that riles people up and eventually violent revolution commences, which is how communist tyrants always come to power. 1A and 2A seems to be the only thing that is stopping them.

And this is also the reason I don't ever support the LGBT+ movement in the West, even though I'm a lesbian. I don't want to be a part of the political propaganda in countries with free elections.

Banning the LGBT+ movement like in China or Russia is the answer for my own sake.

I never said that nor implied it. Obviously you dont the first thing about me.

I never said that nor implied it. Obviously you dont the first thing about me.

@traed

I mean, you did say won't vote for normies, which I took it to mean Biden and Trump. So presumably it's gonna be a throwaway vote for Jill Stein or Cornell West or whatever, idk who's running. Which is not voting by my book.

Unless Biden isn't a normie, I don't know you tell me lol

@Auron_
There is more to politics than voting for the "lesser of two evils" in an already broken voting system from a corrupt government.

Besides if you're worried about Trump him winning would defy too many new things at once to be of high probability. He hasnt even once won popular vote for starters and odds of getting electoral college without it is not very big as it has only happened three times. He is first US president to be impeached twice and first to face criminal charges but even just one impeachment or inquiry was enough to end every past president from winning again, though Andrew Johnson became a senator but that was long ago and he was only one still. Why 2020 was close as it was is due to Covid-19 at the time altering the usual voter turnout demographics. There also has only been one president in US history to win non consecutive terms, Grover Cleveland.

Also the senate is majority democrat right now. Youd more likely see a flip there than in the presidency. Even then various republican politicians are against Trump too.

The stress of his trial is likely shortening his lifespan and we all know he isnt so healthy as he claims with his obesity and chemical and grease filled diet as a senior citizen.

@traed

That there's more politics than voting for a president doesn't mean that this first thing about politics shouldn't be done, especially if the consequences are dire. Also literally every choice of president will be a lesser evil because you won't be 100% with them on everything. If you need to come back home and there's no bus stop that takes you directly to your doorstep, do you say "fuck it I'll walk" or do you take the one that takes you the closest to home?

I mean you can say all these and I would agree with you with regards to if it was any other president who have done these, but Trump has a cult. The truest thing he spoke was that he could shoot someone in 5th Avenue and not lose much support. Trump is still maintaining a lead on the polls, last I checked betting markets were also leaning slightly to Trump. All of the trials said it would not bar him from being president even if he was convicted, which are unlikely to conclude before the elections are over anyway. It's just not true that worries about his reelection are misplaced, there's a real danger here.

Even if he has lowered his lifespan with his diet, he has about the best medical care afforded to man. He's very unlikely to die before inauguration day, and afterwards it's a Republican in charge either way.

@traed

who is the lesser evil between trump and biden then?

Trump 2024 FJB!!