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May 19, 2023 8:54 PM
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It’s not like its Engi is a terrible studio like the one for Berserk 2016. I mean they made uzaki chan which looks alright and the detective is already dead has a lot of amazing sakuga in it. I mean look at this: https://youtu.be/xxHpiswkSZU

At the end of the day I think staff matters more than studio. 
May 19, 2023 8:59 PM
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Yeah i don't get it either the trailer is not even out why are people judging it.
May 19, 2023 9:02 PM
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Yea + the ENGI stuff I've watched looked decent. Not everything has to like it's from ufotable, wit, bind etc.
May 19, 2023 9:43 PM
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Uzaki-chan is one of the worst animated shows I've seen.

It looks like they just took the manga pannels and added voice to it, cause there's barely any movement at all. 

May 19, 2023 11:41 PM
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Runasius said:
It’s not like its Engi is a terrible studio like the one for Berserk 2016. I mean they made uzaki chan which looks alright and the detective is already dead has a lot of amazing sakuga in it. I mean look at this: https://youtu.be/xxHpiswkSZU

At the end of the day I think staff matters more than studio. 

Bro that clip is super awesome. Epic animation and panorama camera.

I haven’t doubted the studio… but everyone else does it because they don’t have a highly rated show yet.

I think Engi will do fine and pull an Osho No Ko, where it is the only show that is rated super high
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May 20, 2023 2:03 AM
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Because ENGI is Kadokawa'a property. They are interested more in making money, than actual anime. While their products might have some sort of quality, there is absolutely never any passion behind it.
It's something like modern AAA games.
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May 20, 2023 3:54 AM
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not really the main thing which will be a make or break is the shot composition and the person doing it has a great record so I am hopefully to say the least (i have not read the manga)
May 20, 2023 4:02 AM
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Agreed, trailer wasnt even out yet
May 20, 2023 6:17 AM
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Runasius said:
It’s not like its Engi is a terrible studio like the one for Berserk 2016. I mean they made uzaki chan which looks alright and the detective is already dead has a lot of amazing sakuga in it. I mean look at this: https://youtu.be/xxHpiswkSZU

At the end of the day I think staff matters more than studio. 

ENGI has one good staff member who will occasionally pop off with a scene or two in their shows. Other then that their staff is talentless and they do a lot of 3D, so I’d expect the performances will be largely CGI. There honestly isn’t a show from them that looks good, I’ll hold out hope till the trailers but everyone should expect the worst
May 20, 2023 8:14 AM

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Rimusimp said:
Runasius said:
It’s not like its Engi is a terrible studio like the one for Berserk 2016. I mean they made uzaki chan which looks alright and the detective is already dead has a lot of amazing sakuga in it. I mean look at this: https://youtu.be/xxHpiswkSZU

At the end of the day I think staff matters more than studio. 

ENGI has one good staff member who will occasionally pop off with a scene or two in their shows. Other then that their staff is talentless and they do a lot of 3D, so I’d expect the performances will be largely CGI. There honestly isn’t a show from them that looks good, I’ll hold out hope till the trailers but everyone should expect the worst

Dude they literally started out in 2019. They're fairly new and probably still on the lookout for that one project that puts them on the mainstream
May 20, 2023 10:04 AM
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Rimusimp said:

ENGI has one good staff member who will occasionally pop off with a scene or two in their shows. Other then that their staff is talentless and they do a lot of 3D, so I’d expect the performances will be largely CGI. There honestly isn’t a show from them that looks good, I’ll hold out hope till the trailers but everyone should expect the worst

Dude they literally started out in 2019. They're fairly new and probably still on the lookout for that one project that puts them on the mainstream

And if the core staff for this show wasn’t so garbage then maybe I’d be optimistic but well, they kinda look pretty crappy
May 20, 2023 12:07 PM

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Rimusimp said:
CreepHazard said:

Dude they literally started out in 2019. They're fairly new and probably still on the lookout for that one project that puts them on the mainstream

And if the core staff for this show wasn’t so garbage then maybe I’d be optimistic but well, they kinda look pretty crappy

Well Jukki Hanada is doing the Series composition and that's the most important part because as a manga reader I don't think this series really relies on directorial brilliance. That said the director is VERY experienced in the field, although he lacks any visual identity to his shows.
If I'm worried about anything it's the Character designer, and maybe a bit for the animation producer. The core staff announced so far are pretty good though.
May 20, 2023 12:51 PM
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CreepHazard said:
Rimusimp said:

And if the core staff for this show wasn’t so garbage then maybe I’d be optimistic but well, they kinda look pretty crappy

Well Jukki Hanada is doing the Series composition and that's the most important part because as a manga reader I don't think this series really relies on directorial brilliance. That said the director is VERY experienced in the field, although he lacks any visual identity to his shows.
If I'm worried about anything it's the Character designer, and maybe a bit for the animation producer. The core staff announced so far are pretty good though.
The director is experienced with making extremely subpar series for sure.
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Rimusimp said:
CreepHazard said:

Well Jukki Hanada is doing the Series composition and that's the most important part because as a manga reader I don't think this series really relies on directorial brilliance. That said the director is VERY experienced in the field, although he lacks any visual identity to his shows.
If I'm worried about anything it's the Character designer, and maybe a bit for the animation producer. The core staff announced so far are pretty good though.
The director is experienced with making extremely subpar series for sure.

No the director has EXPERIENCE directing shows. That's more important. And most of his other shows seem to have suffered from bad source material anyway
May 20, 2023 1:14 PM

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@Rimusimp now that I did further research into the shows he's "Directed" it seems he knows exactly what he's doing. He's got above average connections and experience working with industry veterans, never worked on an engi show before, and all his shows have been on par with the Source material which were decent at best (all of them). I think if given the chance he could create something big, and with Jukki Hanada teaming up with him I think this series is in safe hands. Now they just need a decent animation producer that can rope in a couple of gold sakuga animators and I think we eating good.
Above all I hope we get a decent schedule
May 20, 2023 1:42 PM
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CreepHazard said:
@Rimusimp now that I did further research into the shows he's "Directed" it seems he knows exactly what he's doing. He's got above average connections and experience working with industry veterans, never worked on an engi show before, and all his shows have been on par with the Source material which were decent at best (all of them). I think if given the chance he could create something big, and with Jukki Hanada teaming up with him I think this series is in safe hands. Now they just need a decent animation producer that can rope in a couple of gold sakuga animators and I think we eating good.
Above all I hope we get a decent schedule
perhaps but he also directed episodes for records of ragnorok. Maybe he’ll be solid but I will never put much faith in ENGI
May 20, 2023 1:45 PM

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Rimusimp said:
CreepHazard said:
@Rimusimp now that I did further research into the shows he's "Directed" it seems he knows exactly what he's doing. He's got above average connections and experience working with industry veterans, never worked on an engi show before, and all his shows have been on par with the Source material which were decent at best (all of them). I think if given the chance he could create something big, and with Jukki Hanada teaming up with him I think this series is in safe hands. Now they just need a decent animation producer that can rope in a couple of gold sakuga animators and I think we eating good.
Above all I hope we get a decent schedule
perhaps but he also directed episodes for records of ragnorok. Maybe he’ll be solid but I will never put much faith in ENGI

Record of Ragnarok had much bigger issues than episode directors iirc. It felt almost as if the production committee decided to make the show with a $200 budget.
Yeah reasonably so. Keep the expectations low. We have a manga that we can cherish at least.
May 24, 2023 8:47 AM
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The fan has high expectation since the source material has high quality including the story & art. Great enough to be anime of the season candidate had adapted it right. As ENGI, known for mid-tier production, gets a job (probably due to it's under Kadokawa.) No doubt so many people are kinda worried and disappointed upfront. Not to mention it is a sport figure skating which requires a neat animation during quick skating scene, Otherwise, the flaw will pop up more obvious then other scene.

Director is okay, Series Composition is experienced, now it's up to the studio.
If it turns out, they manage to handle this pretty well similar to Osho no Ko, that's nice, but I think people now are resetting their expectation not to be too hype.
Jun 21, 2023 12:59 AM

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Wow I wasn’t expected an anime to come out. Can’t wait!
Sep 30, 2023 10:30 AM
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The fan has high expectation since the source material has high quality including the story & art. Great enough to be anime of the season candidate had adapted it right. As ENGI, known for mid-tier production, gets a job (probably due to it's under Kadokawa.) No doubt so many people are kinda worried and disappointed upfront. Not to mention it is a sport figure skating which requires a neat animation during quick skating scene, Otherwise, the flaw will pop up more obvious then other scene.

Director is okay, Series Composition is experienced, now it's up to the studio.
If it turns out, they manage to handle this pretty well similar to Osho no Ko, that's nice, but I think people now are resetting their expectation not to be too hype.
@BG_Comedian

The Oshi no Ko comparison doesn't really work since there was only issue because of ignorance from the west. Doga Kobo had always done stellar work in terms of visuals with the only concern being whether they'd nail the characters and mood which are outside of that scope. Here, we're not seeing anything that builds confidence that it'll be well animated AT ALL which given the subject matter(figure skating) is critical. Really it should have been done by KyoAni or Project IG.
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Oct 19, 2023 3:44 AM
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Just let the haters hate as they clearly have nothing better to do.

Ill be laughing so hard once the trailer drops and all of them disappear.
Oct 19, 2023 12:52 PM
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Engi or not, here I guess the quality will depend on how Kadokawa handle this. Like how Geek Toy's outclassed Dead Mount Death play.
Oct 19, 2023 10:13 PM
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Engi or not, here I guess the quality will depend on how Kadokawa handle this. Like how Geek Toy's outclassed Dead Mount Death play.
@MorphoX I don't think kadokawa intended to take medalist seriously, look at that damn cheap visuals,it all down
when it was announced that Engi was producing it
Mar 22, 2024 1:42 AM
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Every ENGI show I've watched was great. If I see ENGI is doing something then I'm immediately sold. I guess whatever shows they did that turned out bad were ones I didn't see, lol
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Every ENGI show I've watched was great. If I see ENGI is doing something then I'm immediately sold. I guess whatever shows they did that turned out bad were ones I didn't see, lol
@Yui_Suzumiya69 What shows do you watch?

The recent unnamed memory, while not so bad, skipped major story parts in their adaptation.
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@Yui_Suzumiya69 What shows do you watch?

The recent unnamed memory, while not so bad, skipped major story parts in their adaptation.
@splitshocker The shows I watched that were produced by ENGI are-

Uzaki-chan Wants to Hang Out! (S1 / S2)
Full Dive
The Detective is Already Dead
Trapped in a Dating Sim
Our Dating Story

Full Dive and Detective were admittedly mid from a writing standpoint. The other shows were all around fantastic though.
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Never seen the source, but the only way this works is if this is very story-driven and doesn't focus on the actual performance of figure skating. There is a reason why there have been only 2 figure skating anime ever: Yuri on Ice, and Ginban Kaleidoscope. It's because figure skating is difficult AF to animate. In fact, one of the best-animated figure skating scenes wasn't in either of those two, but in Death Parade. And that's because Death Parade had the Madhouse-backed budget.

The figure skating animation here will likely go the Ginban Kaleidoscope route, in that whatever they show will be close-ups and stills. For a more recent example, look at Pride of Orange, in which that show cut so many corners on the ice hockey animation, again resorting to close-ups and stills.
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Animation is not the issue rather how they handle the story. Read the detective is already dead, unnamed memories, mobuseka and watch the animes again and you'll have your answer.

They pick up good source materials and take all the good parts away from it.
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Never seen the source, but the only way this works is if this is very story-driven and doesn't focus on the actual performance of figure skating. There is a reason why there have been only 2 figure skating anime ever: Yuri on Ice, and Ginban Kaleidoscope. It's because figure skating is difficult AF to animate. In fact, one of the best-animated figure skating scenes wasn't in either of those two, but in Death Parade. And that's because Death Parade had the Madhouse-backed budget.

The figure skating animation here will likely go the Ginban Kaleidoscope route, in that whatever they show will be close-ups and stills. For a more recent example, look at Pride of Orange, in which that show cut so many corners on the ice hockey animation, again resorting to close-ups and stills.
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There is a reason why there have been only 2 figure skating anime ever: Yuri on Ice, and Ginban Kaleidoscope.


Does Skate-Leading☆Stars count?
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Never seen the source, but the only way this works is if this is very story-driven and doesn't focus on the actual performance of figure skating. There is a reason why there have been only 2 figure skating anime ever: Yuri on Ice, and Ginban Kaleidoscope. It's because figure skating is difficult AF to animate. In fact, one of the best-animated figure skating scenes wasn't in either of those two, but in Death Parade. And that's because Death Parade had the Madhouse-backed budget.

The figure skating animation here will likely go the Ginban Kaleidoscope route, in that whatever they show will be close-ups and stills. For a more recent example, look at Pride of Orange, in which that show cut so many corners on the ice hockey animation, again resorting to close-ups and stills.
@Gippy

The figure skating is such an absolutely MASSIVE part of the series and shows it constantly as a main focus, that fuck Kadokawa for picking this series up and tossing to Engi for a quick buck. Assholes.
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Animation is not the issue rather how they handle the story. Read the detective is already dead, unnamed memories, mobuseka and watch the animes again and you'll have your answer.

They pick up good source materials and take all the good parts away from it.
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Both. It's both.
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Runasius said:
It’s not like its Engi is a terrible studio like the one for Berserk 2016. I mean they made uzaki chan which looks alright and the detective is already dead has a lot of amazing sakuga in it. I mean look at this: https://youtu.be/xxHpiswkSZU

At the end of the day I think staff matters more than studio. 

Those good bit of sakuga you see in their shows is because the one and only Ryuuki Hashimoto animates them. He's the only good animator in the entire studio( he's one of the best in the industry too). If you remove him ,ENGI is worse than henta! studios.
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The trailer looked good. So I'm happy to watch it.

ENGI did decent job imo
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