| I just put a request in but it seems odd to me since it's not that obscure, is there some requirement it doesn't meet? Or the mods just haven't gotten to it yet? https://anilist.co/manga/126135/Bibliomania/ https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/bibliomania https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=173924 etc etc. Thanks! |
| Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors. From Manga DB Guidelines: I. Manga Additions I.2.7 Doujinshi Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters. As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible. Hope this answers your question! |
Phloup said: Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors. From Manga DB Guidelines: I. Manga Additions I.2.7 Doujinshi Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters. As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible. Hope this answers your question! Does it not have an official publisher? I'm not too knowledgeable on this stuff but MU lists it under the Creative Entertainment publisher, are they not "official"? |
Leosmileyface said: It might be because it was only published online, but I'm not sure.Phloup said: Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors. From Manga DB Guidelines: As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible. Hope this answers your question! Does it not have an official publisher? I'm not too knowledgeable on this stuff but MU lists it under the Creative Entertainment publisher, are they not "official"? Amazon is selling it as an e-book: https://www.amazon.co.jp/BIBLIOMANIA-%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AFPerry-%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E3%83%AD-ebook/dp/B07ZP18DN7 But a physical copy exist and seems to be like quite official publication, selling in actual bookstore from what I'm gathering from googletranslation the tweet: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/1066884979550908416?lang=he This should probably get accepted in the database. |
You all need to watch Nami. |
| I've tried to add, but couldn't find Creative Entertainment or Manga Hack for the Serialization field. |
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Phloup said: Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors. From Manga DB Guidelines: I. Manga Additions I.2.7 Doujinshi Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters. As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible. Hope this answers your question! How can published work be made by an unpublished author? The moment it was published, they became a published author. The publisher is Creative Entertainment and they've published over 30 other titles. None that I've searched for are on this site. The entire catalogue needs to be added. |
| @Leosmileyface I kind of have a bit of difficulty explaining why they aren't "official" (according to MAL guidelines), but in very simple terms, it's due to the fact that Creative Entertainment solely publishes series in electronic form (e-books). For web manga/doujinshi like Bibliomania to be eligible, they must be published in print by a reputable physical publishing company (in other words, not independently nor solely on digital platforms (unless that digital platform is owned by the publisher)). I've added a bit more information below, so hopefully the rest of this post will clear things up. If it doesn't, feel free to ask for further explanation. @abystoma2 I believe that the physical copy was published independently. I was not able to find any sources of a reputable publisher releasing the physical version of this manga doujinshi. And even if it was sold in an official bookstore, the original publisher still has to be a professional one. By the way, it won't be eligible based on guideline I.2.2, as the site it was serialized on (Kai-You) is not owned by a reputable publisher (or at least I don't think it is). Similarly, it's not eligible based on guidelines I.2.7 and I.2.8 as 1. the authors are not professionally published, and 2. the physical version is, as mentioned above, not released by a reputable publishing company (it's doujinshi). @Amonimus It was serialized in Kai-You (which is also not currently in the serialization field). @PsychoticDave You forgot a key word: professional. Doujinshi are not professional, so they are not professionally published authors. Also, check the top of this post out for a bit more information on Creative Entertainment. I'm not really sure whether any manga released by Creative Entertainment are on the database or not, but if it's published in print, the it's eligible. If not, then it's not eligible, unless it can meet a different condition for its eligibility. I apologize if I did a poor job at explaining why it's not eligible. If you wish to get a clearer explanation, feel free to ask. |
Bincal said: Hi this is a very old post but I was just wondering, what is Bibliomania a doujinshi of? I thought it was an original work Doujinshi simply refers to a self-published work (in other words, not published by a publishing company). So even if it is an original work, it is still considered doujinshi (if it was published independently). |
Bincal said: Phloup said: Doujinshi simply refers to a self-published work (in other words, not published by a publishing company). So even if it is an original work, it is still considered doujinshi (if it was published independently). Ah I see thank you! I thought doujinshi was only fan work of another series. Hi! Bibliomania has just released in Spain by a new publisher called Kibook :) |
Pijus_Magnificus said: Hello, the editorial kibook ediciones, liscence it in Spain, https://kibookediciones.com/inicio/20-manga-01.html Unfortunately , it won't change anything. MAL takes into account only the country of origin. Even if it got licensed in Spain or elsewhere , it's still not the case for Japan , so it still won't be added. |
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@Leosmileyface
I kind of have a bit of difficulty explaining why they aren't "official" (according to MAL guidelines), but in very simple terms, it's due to the fact that Creative Entertainment solely publishes series in electronic form (e-books). For web manga/doujinshi like Bibliomania to be eligible, they must be published in print by a reputable physical publishing company (in other words, not independently nor solely on digital platforms (unless that digital platform is owned by the publisher)).
I've added a bit more information below, so hopefully the rest of this post will clear things up. If it doesn't, feel free to ask for further explanation.
@abystoma2
I believe that the physical copy was published independently. I was not able to find any sources of a reputable publisher releasing the physical version of this manga doujinshi. And even if it was sold in an official bookstore, the original publisher still has to be a professional one.
By the way, it won't be eligible based on guideline I.2.2, as the site it was serialized on (Kai-You) is not owned by a reputable publisher (or at least I don't think it is). Similarly, it's not eligible based on guidelines I.2.7 and I.2.8 as 1. the authors are not professionally published, and 2. the physical version is, as mentioned above, not released by a reputable publishing company (it's doujinshi).
@Amonimus
It was serialized in Kai-You (which is also not currently in the serialization field).
@PsychoticDave
You forgot a key word: professional. Doujinshi are not professional, so they are not professionally published authors. Also, check the top of this post out for a bit more information on Creative Entertainment.
I'm not really sure whether any manga released by Creative Entertainment are on the database or not, but if it's published in print, the it's eligible. If not, then it's not eligible, unless it can meet a different condition for its eligibility.
I apologize if I did a poor job at explaining why it's not eligible. If you wish to get a clearer explanation, feel free to ask.
I kind of have a bit of difficulty explaining why they aren't "official" (according to MAL guidelines), but in very simple terms, it's due to the fact that Creative Entertainment solely publishes series in electronic form (e-books). For web manga/doujinshi like Bibliomania to be eligible, they must be published in print by a reputable physical publishing company (in other words, not independently nor solely on digital platforms (unless that digital platform is owned by the publisher)).
I've added a bit more information below, so hopefully the rest of this post will clear things up. If it doesn't, feel free to ask for further explanation.
@abystoma2
I believe that the physical copy was published independently. I was not able to find any sources of a reputable publisher releasing the physical version of this manga doujinshi. And even if it was sold in an official bookstore, the original publisher still has to be a professional one.
By the way, it won't be eligible based on guideline I.2.2, as the site it was serialized on (Kai-You) is not owned by a reputable publisher (or at least I don't think it is). Similarly, it's not eligible based on guidelines I.2.7 and I.2.8 as 1. the authors are not professionally published, and 2. the physical version is, as mentioned above, not released by a reputable publishing company (it's doujinshi).
@Amonimus
It was serialized in Kai-You (which is also not currently in the serialization field).
@PsychoticDave
You forgot a key word: professional. Doujinshi are not professional, so they are not professionally published authors. Also, check the top of this post out for a bit more information on Creative Entertainment.
I'm not really sure whether any manga released by Creative Entertainment are on the database or not, but if it's published in print, the it's eligible. If not, then it's not eligible, unless it can meet a different condition for its eligibility.
I apologize if I did a poor job at explaining why it's not eligible. If you wish to get a clearer explanation, feel free to ask.
| @Phloup I've come to learn that the author "おおばる" is a pseudonym for https://myanimelist.net/people/70535/Junpei_Fujita - the creator of the animated adaptation (https://myanimelist.net/anime/57677/Bibliomania) and who has worked on various other projects, such as an art director for: https://myanimelist.net/anime/35372/Otoppe (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%83%9A) Considering that this has received an independent Japanese physical publication: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/1103172061629837312 Along with the Japanese eBook publication: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07ZP18DN7 Might it be eligible? As far as I understand, the professional requirement has overlap between the anime and manga database (meaning that if you are a professional animator, your independently published manga are eligible, and vice versa). Source: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/929347661660020736 https://www.des-art.news/book/artdirector-hakuhoudou-vol3-4 |
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@Phloup right now bibliomania is been published by kibook in spain is that enough for been in the web??
| @ZOMBOstar_ Unfortunately, that's not enough as per MAL's guidelines and as previously mentioned above by other users... 😔 BUT Kwanthemaster's post has some bearing. Bibliomania could probably be added as per Kwan's research/discovery... Kwanthemaster said: I've come to learn that the author "おおばる" is a pseudonym for https://myanimelist.net/people/70535/Junpei_Fujita - the creator of the animated adaptation (https://myanimelist.net/anime/57677/Bibliomania) and who has worked on various other projects, such as an art director for: https://myanimelist.net/anime/35372/Otoppe (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%83%9A) Considering that this has received an independent Japanese physical publication: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/1103172061629837312 Along with the Japanese eBook publication: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07ZP18DN7 Might it be eligible? As far as I understand, the professional requirement has overlap between the anime and manga database (meaning that if you are a professional animator, your independently published manga are eligible, and vice versa). Source: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/929347661660020736 https://www.des-art.news/book/artdirector-hakuhoudou-vol3-4 |
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@Kwanthemaster This post is legitimate why hasnt Bibliomania been added yet ? This is why everyones ditching this garbage website
| @ashthesailer So I talked about this with a manga moderator at the time and learned it doesn't qualify for a variety of reasons in the Manga DB Guidelines: 1) I.2.6 Doujinshi Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters.
Apparently, regardless of the status of the creator, there are still limitations on their doujin, and because the physical Japanese release was not among the above, this doesn't count. 2) The eBook published "Manga Hack Perry" (Amazon release) is not included in the list under I.2 Method of Distribution (On Web). 3) The original web serialization on Kai-You is not included in the list under I.2 Method of Distribution (On Web). So unless this gets a physical or digital release by a group MAL recognizes, or the guidelines are changed over time to allow this, it still does not qualify. Ultimately, these restriction are somewhat arbitrary (does it really matter which site released a physical publication if the creator is a professional?), but I understand that some of this is in place to help manage the incredible backlog of eligible stuff that is pending, and hope that things will slowly become more inclusive over time as this is better managed. I do whish though that there could be some exceptions made for particularly notable works. Why not introduce a rule to allow official anime/manga adaptation of a work? i.e. if an anime is in the database, automatically allow the manga adaptation and vice versa (assuming the basic eligibility standards are met). This should be minimally intrusive to the backlog and save the community and mods the trouble of these longwinded discussions for some of the most popular works that are missing. |
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| It's sad that Bibliomania isn't here. |
| It's already been explained a few times that the real issue is MAL having a whitelist of publishers (I wish it didn't), and IIRC it's unknown how to request them added, so until Kai-You or the abovementioned are added by the moderators not amount of popularity or publications can help Bibliomania. |
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It's already been explained a few times that the real issue is MAL having a whitelist of publishers (I wish it didn't), and IIRC it's unknown how to request them added, so until Kai-You or the abovementioned are added by the moderators not amount of popularity or publications can help Bibliomania.
| @Amonimus Yeah. And they haven't updated their whitelist since July 2022 it seems! 😞 @Ello08 Sad to say that the Italian release doesn't really matter as per MAL guidelines... They want physical copies first and published by "reputable publishers" in the author's country of origin. Honestly, they should share a whitelist of their so-called "reputable publishers" (other than Cycomics, GANMA!, KakaoPage, Lezhin Comics Webtoon, Naver Webtoon or from here: Magazines) so those who submit stuff would be more guided. |
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@Amonimus Yeah. And they haven't updated their whitelist since July 2022 it seems! 😞
@Ello08 Sad to say that the Italian release doesn't really matter as per MAL guidelines...
They want physical copies first and published by "reputable publishers" in the author's country of origin. Honestly, they should share a whitelist of their so-called "reputable publishers" (other than Cycomics, GANMA!, KakaoPage, Lezhin Comics Webtoon, Naver Webtoon or from here: Magazines) so those who submit stuff would be more guided.
@Ello08 Sad to say that the Italian release doesn't really matter as per MAL guidelines...
They want physical copies first and published by "reputable publishers" in the author's country of origin. Honestly, they should share a whitelist of their so-called "reputable publishers" (other than Cycomics, GANMA!, KakaoPage, Lezhin Comics Webtoon, Naver Webtoon or from here: Magazines) so those who submit stuff would be more guided.
| @IridescentJaune yeah MAL is frustratingly pedantic and often too contrived |
| I'm so sad bibliomania isn't here :/ |
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It's sad that Bibliomania isn't here.
| @Absurdo_N Bibliomania and The Greatest Living Show have not yet been added. |
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