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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well, that was a rather tense episode. I like this girls' roles though so far:  I'm glad to see Rin becoming more relevant in this season though. Seems like they are working on the song as well. Interesting. I think the latter half of this season will pick up the pacing with the idols to shine again, at least hopefully. I want to see Rin and the others succeed! |
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| And once again this show decides to construct some stupidly forced and contrived drama, which really shows that they've completely run out of ideas. I've said it before (probably) and I'll say it again: this is absolute trash compared to the original iDOLM@STER series. Heck, they're even repeating themselves with Mio running off like that. They really shouldn't have bothered with this second cour at all. They'd have been better off leaving things where the first cour ended rather than milking it for the sheer sake of it. Also, why's the episode count changed when it was confirmed ages ago that this would be 12 episodes? |
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| So Mio thinks its ok for her to move up by herself and doesnt accept Rin's?? Its great to see Kanada and Syuko, i want to see more of them! All in all episode was about the 2 best girls and i loved it. I can understand why their decision was hard to make |
IheartCCAug 28, 2015 12:36 PM
| Hate Keeps me warm |
| Mio ruining everything again. Seriously I don't get this character. She first makes a drama because Rin wants to TRY another project (not even leave NG) and then she decides to do a solo debut without even CONSULTING her two partners, something Rin had the decency to do. What's her problem? I really try to like her but she then does things like this...? She is the one who is destroying NG. And now she leaves poor Uzuki all by herself. Anyway, I'm really glad for Anya! I'm sure she will make a great job, and it's so touching to see Minami supporting her <3 I'm glad Rin decided to give Triad Primus a shot too :) |
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| Mio acts like a brat, has a paddy because Rin's taking a good opportunity, and then completely abandons New Gen in protest by going solo and leaving Uzuki in the dust? Worst girl confirmed. |
| Why I have impression that drama between New Gen girls was just like first one? It feels like they used the same dialogues, scenes... just little edited it with adding new background and outfits... Even this part where all girls are in their bedrooms... Tohka_Yatogami said: This episode was focusing on Rin and Anastasia. I feel like Anastasia get more screentime than Rin in this episode. It was like in this episode Anastasia is MC and Rin is just "support". sweetdrops said: And now she leaves poor Uzuki all by herself. No, Uzuki isn't all by herself... She have Rin with her :) Rin don't have to leave NG, she can be in both groups :) Good that Mio leaving NG! NG will be better without her! |
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| Mio its no Leaving the NG, she is just doing a solo project on same way that Rin its trying something new, its different from her attitude on last season... |
| Mio what the flipping fudge man.. Not this shit again. |
Tohka_Yatogami said: This episode was focusing on Rin and Anastasia. Mio is running off again. Is she do? Well, her line was rather ambiguous. Is she... Taking a break form her current Unit? Or is she intending on working both with the unit, but also going solo? Well, being the melodrama bait character that she is, she probably meant she will leave the unit to to pursue a solo stint. Now now, at least she isn't rage-quitting like in the first season. As she's motivated at least, can't you guys show some more support for her character breakthrough? :p Well, either way, continuing from this episode's tempo, there's bound to be a shit-storm next episode. Should prove interesting. |
| Mio is literally the most annoyingly selfish character I've ever seen. Like, she has zero redeeming qualities but the show keeps trying to portray her in a sympathetic way. This got on my nerves in the 1st season, and now they're doing it again. I get that she sort of seems like an average whiny teenage girl but it's still annoying. Honestly, I'm watching this show because I like idol anime but Mio is just way too irritating. |
| not sure how i feel about this episode... mishiro may be a bitch but at least she knows who the best 2 girls are lol, mios being a bitch also.... but i guess she always has.... whatever lol, go anya and shiburin! i guess... lol we shall see, also bs cliff hanger -_- |
| Holy crap do the writers hate Mio or what, they make her the most unlikable character ever. I was sympathetic with her at first about Rin joining the new group but then she basically throws Rin and Uzuki under the bus with her "solo debut." |
| Oh well that was a sad episode. About "Rin just trying out something new and doesn't quit NG." Well i think who thinks this way should keep in mind that a day has only 24hours. Besides school, family, the Fall thing of that cow, the winter ball and the usual training and performances they have to do weekly and this with two units, this is clearly impossible to stand in long terms. Thats exactly what Uzuki and Mio know and the producer knew that right the moment when he talked at the office with that black witch. Pretty clear that she only tries to weaken the result of the Cinderella project so she can disband them, mostly to prove her way is the right thing. Rin doesn't do anything wrong because I don't think she was really clear about what the consequences could be. But if she would know it would be a harsh unfriendly move of her. Thats why I can understand that Mio feels sad and her step for now. I don't think she is serious with that anyway. For now it's the best until they realize what they really want. I just hope Uzuki is fine. About comparing this series with the first. I can enjoy both of them. Well i don't mind the drama which give this some sort of developing plot, but i'am missing the daily life fun parts of the first series. It's all about the right mix. Because the characters of both series are for me really likeable and I enjoy the differences of everyone. |
Shaoran-LiAug 29, 2015 6:14 AM
| I do think "leaving" your current unit to go solo project and "leaving" you current unit to go another unit project is realllyyy different. Plus Anya's reason is to challenging herself, but Rin's is totally different. She almost like indirectly said that Triad Primus > New Gen, imo. I get why Mio disagree about this. But I have to agree that Mio solo debut is like "what?!" but if this happened I think she accepting Rin's decision too, although I'm not sure about the reason. This has to be explained quickly or people who hate Mio fills any discussion thread lol. Oh of course, confirmed that Uzuki is the most suffering person in the next episodes, and I have waiting this since episode 1. For you who forget, her (training school) friends "left" Uzuki because they have given up for idol thing. But now New gen is starting to "left" Uzuki behind. |
furuuruAug 29, 2015 6:07 AM
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| Rin definitely fits better with Karen and Nao, imo. I knew Mio wouldn't like it, but seeing her debut solo leaves me mixed as to how to feel about her decision. On one hand, it fits her because she doesn't really seem to work well in groups while on the other hand she is leaving uzuki behind which is a pretty selfish thing to do. Poor Uzuki. Her situation is a lot worse than i would've thought from the OP. |
"Be the change you wish to see in the world." ⛩️  |
| Mio is the worst girl confirmed. |
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| Oh man I can't believe Mio is breaking from the unit !!! |
| This was a great episode, but then.... goddamn it Mio gtfo! |
Honoka is my Hero! Click Me! |
ChromiumSX said: like Rin/Anya, I think she's trying to do both unit and solo.Oh man I can't believe Mio is breaking from the unit !!! |
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| In this episode,I was more interested with Anastasia instead of Rin and the NG's. she hesitant at first,but she had the courage to get the answer by herself,and Minami also accept that Anya want to try to take the project's. as for Mio... I just hope she know what she's doing. I guess now it's only matter of time for Uzuki to get the spotlight now that Rin and Mio like that. and Maybe Mika will involve somehow from this scene(when she saw producer catching up with Mio and try to talk to her)  I mean what's the point for it,if she's only there to saw it. |
Zero_ZX13Aug 29, 2015 9:11 AM
| I'm pretty sure everyone saw Mio's running away from the issue coming from a mile away. It was no surprise at all. Doesn't make it any better though. Also, when Mio asked Uzuki's opinion on the matter, I was so desperately hoping she'd say at least something that didn't make her seem as useless as she's been portrayed to be. But that was not to be. Yes, she's most likely going to get an episode to herself soon, almost like a countdown to the first character's "arc." Still, I feel like she hasn't had any kind of presence in the past nineteen episodes. I'll credit the first episode because I hoped for a brighter future back then. How naive I was. I feel so very little unity with this group of idols. There are a lack of episodes where they actually do anything together as each group is very sectioned off. With this episode and the "taking" of their supposed idol comrades, I was hoping for something more. But no, more sectioned off drama. Drama that hasn't changed this entire anime's lifespan... |
| Finally. More Anya. |
| Finally a focus on two of my favorite idols, Anya and Rin. This is going to be a new challenge for the girls. |
furuuru said: I do think "leaving" your current unit to go solo project and "leaving" you current unit to go another unit project is realllyyy different. Plus Anya's reason is to challenging herself, but Rin's is totally different. She almost like indirectly said that Triad Primus > New Gen, imo. I get why Mio disagree about this. But I have to agree that Mio solo debut is like "what?!" but if this happened I think she accepting Rin's decision too, although I'm not sure about the reason. This has to be explained quickly or people who hate Mio fills any discussion thread lol. Oh of course, confirmed that Uzuki is the most suffering person in the next episodes, and I have waiting this since episode 1. For you who forget, her (training school) friends "left" Uzuki because they have given up for idol thing. But now New gen is starting to "left" Uzuki behind. Now that you've mentioned, Uzuki has the experience of her friends in the training school, leaving!- This is not going to sit well for Uzuki. At the start, when Anya and Rin were told to participate in the Project Kone, I was horrified since it means separating the two of them from the Cinderella Project grp(Something that Mishiro would have thought of or maybe she don't even care) At first I was against it until the ep shows that it's ok to try out new things and I agree; at least for Anya but not Rin. It's one thing to go solo since you've not abandoned your own grp but to join another grp... That's really abandoning unless you can cope going to 2 grps which may be hard for Rin who is still in school...(If we see the real world, it's possible to judge between 2 grps...) I don't blame Nao and Karen to form a grp with Rin since they want to debut and even better with their schoolmate Rin. Plus their voices do fit together. (Knew that time showing Mishiro seeing them together was a foreshadow that she gt her eye on them...) Yet I guess Mio sees it an abandonment and decide to go solo instead- as to y? It's easy to say cos Rin's joining another grp yet if she's thinking of doing something by herself until Rin's done with her new grp(which I doubt may happen), that will be mature of her though leaving poor Uzuki behind... Sigh... I wouldn't say it was forced drama since it is these unpredictable stuff(Mishiro arrival is enough to say all that) that results in so much drama; because you can't predict the future so it all depends on how one reacts on it. If nothing weird or abnormal happen in one's life, naturally that life goes on normally; nothing interesting which would just defeats the purpose of a show. Ppl can say that season 1 was enough; this 'forced drama'(much due to Mishiro) was 'forced' yet it's cos season 1 didn't show all character development of all Cinderella girls like in recent eps, Kanako and Cheri overcoming their shyness and then Anzu and Kirari overcoming their difference despite being the same age plus Rinna who loves rock, want to do rock yet her grp don't but treasure her friendship with Miku much more. And this ep, we see Anya taking another step forth. As for New generations part, I would say it's a built-up char development for Uzuki than Mio and as well as Rin who is still learning her ways in the idol world. That's y I wouldn't say season 2 has forced drama b'cos in the first place, the appearance of this hard cold boss called Mishiro is enough to stir things up with her power and naturally, drama will occur yet it is these dramas that show the development of the characters! (As for Mio, I like to say ppl should wait for next ep to know more; ppl r too quick to judge esp with the stunt she did in season 1. She may have matured and formed her own thoughts out after talking to the producer.- Yet I can't say for sure since a leopard don't change its spot 'easily'... Until the next ep then~ |
Kagetora_Juichi said: and Maybe Mika will involve somehow from this scene(when she saw producer catching up with Mio and try to talk to her) I mean what's the point for it,if she's only there to saw it. me-me-me said: On another note, even the No Make for this ep was sad and serious. And I love it. (EDIT: Also, FINALLY we see some of Mishiro's stuff working [url]http://cgtranslation.blogspot.com/2015/08/idol-mster-cinderella-girls-no-make-ep_29.html[/url]. Regard this and after rewatch the episode, I assume one thing: Mio go solo debut is not her idea. At least, its not her pure idea. After saw Rin singing with Nao and Karen, and seeing the Cinderella Project photo,  this is the face Producer makes. Its not sour or desperate, its more like found new thing or new perspective. Plus after that, Anya talks to him about challenging herself or something like "take the next step". And then Producer said "No matter what kind of path it is, if you feel it's possible to get to other side with a smile, then you should go forward." and convincing Anya. Thats Producer's thought after see Rin having fun with Nao and Karen while singing together with them. Well Anya and Rin is two different cases but its more "linked" than I thought (well that's why its become one episode lol). Its not just about Anya and Rin, its about Producer boarding his perspective and starting to accept (or taking advantage?) the Exec's idea, although in the beginning he's really against it. Then the ending scenes. Producer sees Mio running away and chases her. Mika sees them, and what happened after that remains unknown. So you think Mio solo project its her idea? No, its Producer or Mika maybe. Because, look at her "Okay, I will do this." face. And it's midnight. If its her idea in the first place, I think convincing herself in half day is too long. And execution in this ending scenes is ... brighter? I dont know, deremas tend to exaggerating drama and add this and that sad effect (lol), but this time is different, its like just some new (good) things are starting. And it's fits perfectly for Uzuki's arc. Everything is going to get better, but not for you, main character. Lol. (Haruka's arc is like that too.) Thinking this and that, well, the script writer is not that bad lol. Its still imas I know, anime with many little details. If you not caught on or focused too much about something (like "wth Mio running away again"), you will miss a lot of things. Twinkieftw said: I feel so very little unity with this group of idols. There are a lack of episodes where they actually do anything together as each group is very sectioned off. With this episode and the "taking" of their supposed idol comrades, I was hoping for something more. But no, more sectioned off drama. Drama that hasn't changed this entire anime's lifespan... I agree that the unity is lacking in deremas. And, I think, its not the point of deremas anyway. In deremas, the girls just known each other in episode 2, and not many character has moment with each other in the original game either. So the girls are building relationship from zero, while ori 765Pro just have to show how they developing unity when they have it since before episode 1. Well they try to have different chemistry with anime idolmaster, (well since use same chemistry is no good either) I think deremas true point is shows the individual of character, yes you can have unity, but sectioned by unit. They're still show the unity of all cinderella project, though its just 1-2 episode. Twinkieftw said: Agreed, episode one is truly make Uzuki good character and I hope more, but her role is smaller than Haruka until now. Well I credit her when she help Producer (indirectly) in Mio's story in cour 1 though.Also, when Mio asked Uzuki's opinion on the matter, I was so desperately hoping she'd say at least something that didn't make her seem as useless as she's been portrayed to be. But that was not to be. Yes, she's most likely going to get an episode to herself soon, almost like a countdown to the first character's "arc." Still, I feel like she hasn't had any kind of presence in the past nineteen episodes. I'll credit the first episode because I hoped for a brighter future back then. How naive I was. |
furuuruAug 30, 2015 5:51 AM
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| I actually like this episode the most out of both seasons :) I wished most of the episodes were like this with strong drama. I can watch 100 episodes of this series if they went about like it from the beginning. I know this is bad and would make me look like a terrible person but I really want Rin and Anastasia to join the Krone project even if it's temporary (knowing this show, all the cinderella girls would probably go back together in the end), I want more real life-like situation in this show to be honest. The end with Mio just adds more drama but I hope the show doesn't rush and crash all these plots just to get the 14 girls back at the finale. Nitta, Rin and Anastasia are 3 of the only girls who I really like, the rest of the group are just a shadow to me. I felt like Uzuki was wrongly given the main spotlight at the beginning of season 1, if anything they should have given it to Rin. Afterwards, give a few more spotlights to 1-2(Anastasia and Nitta) of the girls in the cinderella project while all the rest remain as minor (so we can weed out the weak) and focus on the important people as they pursue their career. That would do the screentime more justice for the characters, you can clearly see a lot of the cinderella girls not getting ton of screentime starting from season 1 which is understandable as there's not a lot of interest surrounding them which is exactly my point. |
ShanaFlameAug 30, 2015 8:31 AM
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furuuru said: At least, its not her pure idea. I had the same thought, maybe the Producer talked to her and they came to that decision. I love it when Rin, Karen and Nao ate at that fast food and one of them ordered a happy meal. lol (mainly because I do that too... sometimes...) |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
 Oh man, I can only imagine the internal monologue that Uzuki must have been having. |
| Idolm@ster episode 8 preview : ...and so it continues |
| Man, Mio is such a class A bitch |
| I just said what a plot twist when Mio told herself to go solo debut. I didn't really expecting that after that drama. There is no Mio there in the preview, seem like Uzuki and Rin is walking together. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| Mio is a dumb b***h. Didn't even have the respect to inform her teammates first. And it's no surprise she discussed it with producer 'cause there's no one else involved in a freaking solo unit. If what Rin did was selfish, then what Mio did is selfish backlash of stupid proportions. Rin & Ana's actions only seem excessively self-serving if we are to believe that the somehow the entire fate of the Cinderella Project will fall apart if the two of them aren't with their units 100% of the time which is unfounded nonsense. Even so, I don't see why anyone should give up their own opportunities for the sake of keeping together someone elses. Talk about communistic. In the worst case scenario, they'd probably just get shuffled up elsewhere in the company. It's not as though they chose their own units to begin with. Actually, if the subtitles are to be believed. The director wouldn't even bother waiting for the winter review unless Rin and Anastasia "pass muster" with the new units at the current time. |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| Holy shit, Mio is like the fucking cancer to this anime. Ugh I thought we were through with her shenanigans, but NOOOPE! |
EinKleinerMensch said: Thats why I like this episode lol. There're layers of depth and imo I dont think I can't 100% blame certain character despite I dont like some of her decision this time. While, Producer is really a hero in this episode.Who ever said Idols are not pure? IvoDark said: While the first company's president (producer) is prioritizes his employee (idols) first. Yeah it's kinda irony but I think if we use that analogy, it will be makes everyone decision make sense. What I trying to say is, self-serving is not that bad. Ah no, it's bad in this context (the company is in bad bussiness and all) but at least makes sense if someone decides that. You work in a company with 13 other people. You’re facing shutdown. Everyone is working their best to prevent it. Meanwhile, you put half your effort and time in starting another company. If your company goes under, you still have the second. Let’s not forget that you’d still be working in a fucking flower shop if the person that founded the first company didn’t approach you. And let's not forget that the person that founded the second company it's the one that's gonna decide wether or not to shut down the first one. If you don't find that self-serving, then I give up. Well if I want to credit Rin for something (relatively) positive in this episode, I will say the Rin-singing-along-with-Nao-and-Karen scene. The point is, Producer was saw that directly, and saw they're really having fun and smiling. The Producer after that has a lot on thought after saw that and decided to prioritizes his idols' smile first, like he's did until now. Yeah, you can have your opinion regards this is a bad thing or not lol. IvoDark said: Lol you nailed it. If you puts loyalty first, its certainly a bad thing. But I think some of people put their [/i]passion[/i] first, while I dont like it too, I can't blame that.I suppose we at least can agree that Producer wants what’s best for all his girls, that should be telling enough. However you spin it, what you get is this: two girls watch how the guy that gave them careers is getting chewed up. Two days later, both of them go working with the person that did the chewing. IvoDark said: Love this. Many people judge any character when (mostly) they're not really put attention in it.I can’t judge based on one line: me-me-me said: Yeah just use it, I post my opinion because want to people read it after all lol.(Side Note: Took me a while to realize what deremas meant, and then I instantly loved it. Asking for permission to use it with a slight modification ^_^) Now, I think if you're the type of person that values one of the above more than another, you'll like that show more than the others. Different strokes for different folks. I have bad experience in 765 imas, when I just not paying attention in 1-19, then when episode 20 and above, what what what episode 1-19 become more meaningful and when rewatch it I finding new things that I skipped and realize how good and planned this show was. Still, like this deremas, I know its flaw or uninteristing things, but regarding planning and production, both imas are in top notch. |
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