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Jul 11, 2009 5:05 PM
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Ahh, interesting episode. I loved the ending. So blood was what she needed to come back to her sense huh?
Jan 3, 2011 11:11 AM
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Creepy ending, but still interesting. At first I thoght that old detective was kind of "L", but neh, he acted so stupid... But it was kinda idiotic: why has Lise come back to her sense only because of the blood?...

Mar 1, 2011 4:51 AM
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Poor Lula and the detective that got shot.
Sep 22, 2012 5:50 PM
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Glad the girls resolve are strengthen and everyone moving forward!

Poor detective... bet his partner will continue the case...
Sep 6, 2013 8:43 PM
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Holy shit...and just like that, he dies. Human lives are so fragile..
Nov 19, 2014 11:59 AM
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Feel bad for lesa. herve just left her there like some dog. I was confused on why didint lula just do the undead thing to her brother. Unless he was already undead but that wouldint make sense since arent you suppose to turn to dust. The moment with the 4 girls was nice. They realize even if they forgot the ones who care about them wont. I knew from the start this detective was going to get killed but wouldint it be smarter to just lie to him or brainwash or something other then shoot him. He could of called someone who then comes looking for him which makes bigger problems. Well I guess its up to the only black guy to solve the case lol.
Mar 21, 2016 9:11 AM
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I wish they would have sang in the end. That was a perfect moment for a song
Aug 20, 2017 4:44 PM
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Poor cop :(

Why don't the girls just resolve to stop the 2 books from being joined? They may not be able to get their human bodies back, but they can sure as hell work to keep their memories!

I don't feel bad for Lula in the slightest. She was a total bitch to the girls from the beginning, and just watched as they were almost killed over and over, and just watched as that other group of girls were killed. All the adults from both camps need to be wiped out.
Apr 2, 2021 2:52 AM
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kalinime said:

I don't feel bad for Lula in the slightest. She was a total bitch to the girls from the beginning, and just watched as they were almost killed over and over, and just watched as that other group of girls were killed. All the adults from both camps need to be wiped out.


Amen. Fuck Lula. And Animus. And Dolores.

A nice bonding moment for the girls. I do wish we'd gotten a bit more on the girls hanging out with each other. We've spent a lot of the series with them on their own, dealing with their own problems, which isn't bad at all but showing that they got along well together would've made this episode much better for me.

Also, is the Animus curse just immortality and forgetting memories. Is that it ? I mean it's bad but it's not getting beaten-to-death-with-baseball-bats bad.

Also, unlike everyone else, I do sympathise with Herve but what was his plan ? Leaving a drugged, traumatised girl on the beach was somehow supposed to help her ? How the hell were her parents going to find her and keep her safe ? Was she somehow supposed to walk all the way home ? Jesus.
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TitanInsane said:

Also, is the Animus curse just immortality and forgetting memories. Is that it ? I mean it's bad but it's not getting beaten-to-death-with-baseball-bats bad.


I don't remember many details about this anymore, but total irreversible amnesia is no different from death. Whoever you were is gone, a new person is in charge of your body.
Apr 2, 2021 11:50 PM

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kalinime said:
TitanInsane said:

Also, is the Animus curse just immortality and forgetting memories. Is that it ? I mean it's bad but it's not getting beaten-to-death-with-baseball-bats bad.


I don't remember many details about this anymore, but total irreversible amnesia is no different from death. Whoever you were is gone, a new person is in charge of your body.


It is different from death because whatever is left can still live on. Besides, there are ways for them to preserve their memories at the end but they choose not to. It's a bad thing but it's not as bad as the Dolores curse.
Apr 3, 2021 11:06 PM
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TitanInsane said:

It is different from death because whatever is left can still live on. Besides, there are ways for them to preserve their memories at the end but they choose not to. It's a bad thing but it's not as bad as the Dolores curse.

If memories are gone, whatever's left is a different person. Like a blank slate identical twin. It's also the reason why regular reincarnation (where you lose your memories) is a bullshit deal no better than afterlifeless oblivion after death.
Sep 18, 2022 7:15 AM

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Idk why this didn't occur to me before but of couse Lula and probably a lot of the other women we've seen in this organization are in the same situation as the girls regarding the memory loss once this whole thing is over. Unsure if they are all undead tho. I wonder tho if the memory loss thing is the "curse" of Animus, then if they get the book back is it not possible that they would be able to remove the curse from themselves the same way Dolore could supposedly remove their curse? I feel like Herve said "win or lose you are fucked" kinda thing but idk.

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