Anime Tourist definition

An anime tourist is somebody who only claims to be into anime so they can police people and anime itself into censorship. Many of them bullied anime fans until it wasn't popular to hate anime anymore, and now claim that they were anime fans all along.This is correct. The best way I've seen to describe anime tourists.This is also important for people to notice. Culture warrior tourists on the right like this are very common, and not talked about nearly enough. None of them know about how anime has had LGBT characters long before Western media did. In fact, it was the Western localizers who frequently cut LGBT characters out of anime.

@WeebJeef

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anime_in_the_United_States

"The 1990s was the period in which anime reached mainstream popularity in the U.S. market and the terms "anime" and "manga" became commonly known, replacing "Japanimation"."



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@geberim "but... but *thing* was brought over here and that means it was extremely popular and everyone knew about it and indulged in the content"

Just like comic books were a thing over here since forever yet people were looked down upon for liking it until the big MCU push in the 2010s. You simply don't understand or refuse to. Just because something was brought over to the US doesn't mean it was popular at first. No normal person back then even in the 2000s really knew about anime or manga. it was popular online cause the internet back than was niche as well but the mainstream didn't know or care.

Hey, if you wanna be intentionally dense and refuse to acknowledge the point that people have been looked down upon until it was overwhelmingly positive during covid. dont let me stop you.



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No it's not and it has stopped being niche for a long time now.

Anyway, this is what happens when people take watching Japanese cartoons too seriously for their own good.

We all know that this thread will end up like the previous one, so why bother keeping it open?

@geberim You misread me teribly. Anime and manga are niche media. Each individual anime fits niches. There is a RATED EVERYONE, and that might not be something that some people like. It is like Music, Books or Movies. Mass media that is of general interest is newspapers. Have a nice day.

@Sasori56483

No matter how much you cope anime or manga will not be niche but whatever makes you feel smart I guess.

@geberim I am not coping, I am pointing to you it is niche vs mass. Not niche vs mainstream.
https://askbib.com/media/niche-media-vs-mass-media

@geberim I am not coping, I am pointing to you it is niche vs mass. Not niche vs mainstream.
https://askbib.com/media/niche-media-vs-mass-media

@geberim I am not coping, I am pointing to you it is niche vs mass. Not niche vs mainstream.
https://askbib.com/media/niche-media-vs-mass-media

@Sasori56483

Wikipedia says otherwise, anime was already very mainstream in most part of europe back in 70s and anime were very popular in the us with the likes of sailor moon, dragon ball, akira, Miyazaki movies, naruto so on and so forth.


If the anime would be very "niche" then shueisha and shokagugan the two biggest publishers in Japan would not be creating their own subsidiary viz media in which is specializing in bringing manga outside Japan, especially america.

@jacobPOL ... I hope you notice, I have replied 2 times saying I am not talking about it being unpopular. And I linked a link that should help to show what I am talking too.

@Sasori56483 Em, no once again anime was mainstream outside us already back in 70s in the large part of europe and other parts of the planet earth and the anime were already very popular to nearly mainstream levels in the united stated before covid.

@Sasori56483 Em, no once again anime was mainstream outside us already back in 70s in the large part of europe and other parts of the planet earth and the anime were already very popular to nearly mainstream levels in the united stated before covid.

@jacobPOL And I don`t discuss that information is right. I will add even in Japan, anime is a niche media. Niche media means each single work is heavily focused on a target group, and covers their needs in depth.

@Sasori56483 It seems you don't understand niche, look at for example lupin III part 2 finale



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupin_the_3rd_Part_II#Reception



Source: https://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/The_Reason_He_Became_a_Butler



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor_Moon_(TV_series)#Reception_and_legacy

Niche and obscure is something like very unknown, and yet these sources proofs once again otherwise.


What you mean is demographic, here is the video that explains what are demographics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y_bBKm2gkE

@jacobPOL Again, I mean niche media not obscure. -> https://askbib.com/media/niche-media-vs-mass-media
> Niche media targets a specific audience, catering to particular interests, demographics, or cultural segments, such as specialty publications or websites that focus on hobbies, industries, or lifestyles.
> It comes from this usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_niche . It is not obscure, it is segmented.

@Sasori56483 AKA demographic which targets a certain audience. Demographic and niche are totally two different things and what you think about is exactly demographic.

@jacobPOL Yes... And find your niche (slot) and find your demographic (consumers) means the same. It still didn`t make my sentence about anime being unpopular.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=2233708&id=73296038 Does this in context mean I am saying it is unpopular?

Anime tourists really should just be anyone who complains about 'anime tourists' at this point. If you truly like the genre you shouldn't be gatekeeping who gets to enjoy it with you.

@ma1kawa11

As I said before to someone else here anime is a medium, not a genre.

@geberim I'm not going to get into a semantical argument with you when I know what I meant and you also know what I meant.

This is a distinction many people don't seem to grasp. Sure "anime", that shit is basically just short hand for "animation" when using it in Nihongo in general conversations (basically referring to any animation). But this shit is also a Medium too, specifically a Japanese Medium. Some people don't always fucking seem to accept the fact a single word, specifically in this instance "Anime", can refer to multiple things. Just like as an example, English words such as banks, comics, dramas, etc... all these fucking words can be used in different ways to explain different things and be used in multiple context. Not simply just only one fucking thing. Where "comics" can be used to describe the Western medium but also be used to describe certain types of performers or simply just used to describe Humor strips, etc...

People who pretend to like anime but really just want to complain about black and gay people in western media.

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@Tropisch

You do see it a lot in entertainment spaces where conservatives who don't even really engage with the media they are talking about either use it to complain about or as a bludgeon against the depiction of minority groups and women in Western media. Grifters like that are so common these days that it's really fucking annoying and adds to the tribalistic nature of fandom. Pretending like it is a thing that doesn't exist is stupid

@ma1kawa11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime



It is animation medium of Japan, just the west shortened it to the "anime"

@jacobPOL Like I fucking said to this other guy, I'm not going to get into literal pointless semantics. The foundational meaning behind what I said in my first comment still translates in the vernacular even if I used an incomplete term and what you are saying is of no concern and brings nothing to the table of this discussion. So kindly fuck off. And if you want to respond to me again, please address the actual point I am making in my post instead of doing a semantical cop out. And if you are unsure about what I mean ask me instead of posting pretentious bullshit. I will gladly clarify for you if you are actually talking to me with good intentions.

@ma1kawa11 OK, so why resulting to swearing? I once again adressed the actual point that anime is a medium not a genre, genre is for example adventure/slice of life/horror so on and so forth, anime is just animation medium of Japan that's it.



Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=medium++in+storytelling+definition&sca_esv=9594ada01a48a169&sxsrf=AE3TifNnEY0u282oFUo1xXpZbY91fXODVQ%3A1758585185698&ei=YeHRaPmzKrii1fIPmP6d-AY&ved=0ahUKEwi56LOqyO2PAxU4UVUIHRh_B28Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=medium++in+storytelling+definition&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiIm1lZGl1bSAgaW4gc3Rvcnl0ZWxsaW5nIGRlZmluaXRpb24yBRAhGKABMgUQIRigAUj3RVDnAVivRHAIeACQAQCYAV6gAfgPqgECMzC4AQPIAQD4AQGYAiCgArQNwgIIEAAYsAMY7wXCAgUQIRifBcICBxAhGKABGArCAggQIRigARjDBMICChAhGKABGMMEGArCAgUQABjvBcICBBAAGB7CAgYQABgIGB7CAgYQABgWGB6YAwCIBgGQBgGSBwIzMqAHtmCyBwIyNLgHqQ3CBwQyMy45yAca&sclient=gws-wiz-serp



Why some people time and time again resulting in to swearing and insults rather than having civil discussion?

@jacobPOL



You know, if you wanted to have a civil discussion about what I had said in my comment I might have obliged you, say, you were making a comment about the actual point I was trying to make when I made that comment. But no, you instead decided to make a pretentious comment about a single word that I said and completely ignored the broad meaning of the comment itself.

If you had an actual iota of reading comprehension ability you would have been able to recognize that my original comment was saying "The real anime tourists are more often than not people who accuse others of being tourists because they can't accept that other people enjoy anime different from them" but you apparently got so hung up on, let me say it again, one word, that you apparently missed this??????

Yeah no, I'm going to tell you to fuck off if you do that, deal with it. If you can't take the heat don't dish it out. You are literally part of the problem of this dogshit community.

@Tropisch

You do see it a lot in entertainment spaces where conservatives who don't even really engage with the media they are talking about either use it to complain about or as a bludgeon against the depiction of minority groups and women in Western media. Grifters like that are so common these days that it's really fucking annoying and adds to the tribalistic nature of fandom. Pretending like it is a thing that doesn't exist is stupid

@ma1kawa11 Thanks for your kind words and hospitability, It's an honor to be disliked by someone like you. I just said anime is a medium not a genre and that's it . I never said anything else.

@jacobPOL

I'm just going to place the full quote there for you and if you are still so unaware of the absolute banality of making those kinds of semantic arguments while ignoring the broader and obvious meaning behind what someone says, there is no saving you.

Oh and one last thing, Genre is a completely fine term to use, because while yes the word anime is just the word used for 'animation' Eastern animation itself has its own evolved distinct visual style with consistencies and rules in the industry that also make it applicable to the definition: "Category of artistic composition" (genre). So yeah, you didn't even get your semantics right. Maybe you should think about things more than just quoting the fucking Wikipedia page.

Have a horrible day.

@Tropisch

You do see it a lot in entertainment spaces where conservatives who don't even really engage with the media they are talking about either use it to complain about or as a bludgeon against the depiction of minority groups and women in Western media. Grifters like that are so common these days that it's really fucking annoying and adds to the tribalistic nature of fandom. Pretending like it is a thing that doesn't exist is stupid