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Last year I decided to watch the rest of the seasons of Symphogear, but something weir happened whenever Kirika used her signature moves: The video would freeze for half a second. I would then notice that this happened because they used a fairly intricate and complex subtitle font for those parts.

Recently I was watching Girls Band Cry, and whenever there was a song part, they would put some effects on the subs, which resulted in the video going to 4-5 FPS, and even selecting "Default Style" wouldn't solve this.
Right now I'm watching Rozen Maiden (2013), and due to intricate subs they use in the OP (Rose-thorn effects that follow the lyrics at every syllable), the video freezes for half a second whenever a new line comes, though selecting default style seems to solve it.

I've always used Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack.
Are there better players for watching anime?
Sep 4, 4:55 PM
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mpv is the best but its for experts so i just use vlc player

but you can use mpv hero https://github.com/stax76/mpv-hero and just update the main mpv executable to the latest
Sep 4, 4:57 PM
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For me, MPV, and never anything else.
Sep 4, 5:11 PM
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mpv is the best but its for experts so i just use vlc player

but you can use mpv hero https://github.com/stax76/mpv-hero and just update the main mpv executable to the latest
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I mean, I do use MPV on Linux, but on Windows it always felt like a pain.
Will give it a shot.
Sep 4, 11:01 PM
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I've used VLC on windows ever since I gained consciousness. Plays everything, and can switch and add subtitles/soundtrack for any video format. However, on my android phone VLC had issues playing avi. format for some reason, so video player choice does depend on the device I guess. I'm also in need for a player on mobile, default Xiaomi player is dogshit bloatware
Sep 4, 11:34 PM
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mpv is great and it does support upscaling through Anime4K. It's great on mobile as well. If you get used to the controls it feels great as well.

Anyone knew a media player with better upscaling or is anime4K still the best? It has problems with far away small characters most of the time.
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thewiru said:
Last year I decided to watch the rest of the seasons of Symphogear, but something weir happened whenever Kirika used her signature moves: The video would freeze for half a second. I would then notice that this happened because they used a fairly intricate and complex subtitle font for those parts.

Recently I was watching Girls Band Cry, and whenever there was a song part, they would put some effects on the subs, which resulted in the video going to 4-5 FPS, and even selecting "Default Style" wouldn't solve this.
Right now I'm watching Rozen Maiden (2013), and due to intricate subs they use in the OP (Rose-thorn effects that follow the lyrics at every syllable), the video freezes for half a second whenever a new line comes, though selecting default style seems to solve it.

I've always used Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack.
Are there better players for watching anime?

There are 3 best video players to watch anime on

One is called a VCR, the other a DVD player, and the newest addition is the BluRay player

There is also the LaserDisc player, but i can't speak for that as i've yet to try one
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thewiru said:
Last year I decided to watch the rest of the seasons of Symphogear, but something weir happened whenever Kirika used her signature moves: The video would freeze for half a second. I would then notice that this happened because they used a fairly intricate and complex subtitle font for those parts.

Recently I was watching Girls Band Cry, and whenever there was a song part, they would put some effects on the subs, which resulted in the video going to 4-5 FPS, and even selecting "Default Style" wouldn't solve this.
Right now I'm watching Rozen Maiden (2013), and due to intricate subs they use in the OP (Rose-thorn effects that follow the lyrics at every syllable), the video freezes for half a second whenever a new line comes, though selecting default style seems to solve it.

I've always used Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack.
Are there better players for watching anime?

There are 3 best video players to watch anime on

One is called a VCR, the other a DVD player, and the newest addition is the BluRay player

There is also the LaserDisc player, but i can't speak for that as i've yet to try one
@DigiCat Maybe 10+ years ago. Physical media is just too much effort, even tho it is cooler in a way.
Sep 5, 5:26 AM
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I still use VLC, it can be customized lot, for more convenient usage.
Sep 5, 6:49 AM

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@DigiCat Maybe 10+ years ago. Physical media is just too much effort, even tho it is cooler in a way.
@IrnFox Fair enough, but i think effort is worth the quality
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if you have issues with the subtitles try increasing the "sub pictures to buffer" value in the subtitle settings or change the renderer to DirectVobSub

i use mpc-hc with madvr, debanding and lumasharpen shader, mpv ui just looks ugly imo
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MPC-HC is the goated video player, especially if you spice it up with madvr.
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thewiru said:
Last year I decided to watch the rest of the seasons of Symphogear, but something weir happened whenever Kirika used her signature moves: The video would freeze for half a second. I would then notice that this happened because they used a fairly intricate and complex subtitle font for those parts.

Recently I was watching Girls Band Cry, and whenever there was a song part, they would put some effects on the subs, which resulted in the video going to 4-5 FPS, and even selecting "Default Style" wouldn't solve this.
Right now I'm watching Rozen Maiden (2013), and due to intricate subs they use in the OP (Rose-thorn effects that follow the lyrics at every syllable), the video freezes for half a second whenever a new line comes, though selecting default style seems to solve it.

I've always used Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack.
Are there better players for watching anime?


Sony UBP-X800M2 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player with Dolby Atmos, HDR, and Wi-Fi for Streaming Videos is the best Video players out there. It's even better in my opinion than Panasonic's DP-UB820-K 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player because Panasonic makes more noise when operating.

Either way your problem has less to do with what player you are using and likely more to do with where you are getting your Anime from. It's equivalent to someone complaining about buying an Anime DVD bootleg from some place like Malaysia even if it's a modern Anime series and noticing errors that are baked into the encoding from sound glitches to stuttering during panning frames to even annoying digital artifacts.

The freezes you’re seeing are almost certainly due to the subtitle effects in the files you’re watching. Official streams and releases (like Crunchyroll or Blu-ray versions) typically don’t have this problem, because they don’t use overly complex or flashy subtitles. So if you were actually watching through legitimate sources, you probably wouldn’t notice any type of slowdowns or even experience an Anime freezing due to subtitles at all.


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thewiru said:
Last year I decided to watch the rest of the seasons of Symphogear, but something weir happened whenever Kirika used her signature moves: The video would freeze for half a second. I would then notice that this happened because they used a fairly intricate and complex subtitle font for those parts.

Recently I was watching Girls Band Cry, and whenever there was a song part, they would put some effects on the subs, which resulted in the video going to 4-5 FPS, and even selecting "Default Style" wouldn't solve this.
Right now I'm watching Rozen Maiden (2013), and due to intricate subs they use in the OP (Rose-thorn effects that follow the lyrics at every syllable), the video freezes for half a second whenever a new line comes, though selecting default style seems to solve it.

I've always used Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack.
Are there better players for watching anime?


Sony UBP-X800M2 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player with Dolby Atmos, HDR, and Wi-Fi for Streaming Videos is the best Video players out there. It's even better in my opinion than Panasonic's DP-UB820-K 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player because Panasonic makes more noise when operating.

Either way your problem has less to do with what player you are using and likely more to do with where you are getting your Anime from. It's equivalent to someone complaining about buying an Anime DVD bootleg from some place like Malaysia even if it's a modern Anime series and noticing errors that are baked into the encoding from sound glitches to stuttering during panning frames to even annoying digital artifacts.

The freezes you’re seeing are almost certainly due to the subtitle effects in the files you’re watching. Official streams and releases (like Crunchyroll or Blu-ray versions) typically don’t have this problem, because they don’t use overly complex or flashy subtitles. So if you were actually watching through legitimate sources, you probably wouldn’t notice any type of slowdowns or even experience an Anime freezing due to subtitles at all.
@ColourWheel Browser playback is more scuffed, networks can't compete with just reading the file from your file system.
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I've always used Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack.

this is the way.

if you have performance issues, you'll have to check the settings. a lot of the MadVR options can be quite heavy.
and if your system can't handle complex subs, you might just need to switch to a simpler release.
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MPC HC, VLC, KMPlayer. Also mpv, but that 300-page manual about how to use a video player (bruh) just scares me off...
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JaniSIr said:
@ColourWheel Browser playback is more scuffed, networks can't compete with just reading the file from your file system.


If someone’s struggling with playback due to network, that’s going to be a bigger fucking headache than just worrying about where they got their Anime from. lol

Either way my point stands, if they are having trouble with even "default" subtitles, that's more to do with them either relying on a crappy 3rd rate rip or could even be software failure or even something more extreme like hardware failure like their graphics card is starting to fail.

Other shit that could be happening...

CPU bottleneck – Some codecs (like 10-bit H.264/HEVC or AV1) are still heavy on the CPU if hardware acceleration isn’t working.

Driver issues – Outdated or corrupt GPU drivers can mimic “dying hardware” symptoms.

Faulty RAM or storage – Slow or failing RAM/SSD/HDD can also cause stuttering.

High-bitrate or poorly encoded files – Even a healthy PC can struggle with extremely high-bitrate rips.

If I was using Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack and still struggling to play something smoothly that was legally legit (video files that I purchased not exclusive to Anime). I be looking into getting my PC fixed or buy a new one. Not look for some new media player software. lol
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@ColourWheel Browser playback is more scuffed, networks can't compete with just reading the file from your file system.


If someone’s struggling with playback due to network, that’s going to be a bigger fucking headache than just worrying about where they got their Anime from. lol

Either way my point stands, if they are having trouble with even "default" subtitles, that's more to do with them either relying on a crappy 3rd rate rip or could even be software failure or even something more extreme like hardware failure like their graphics card is starting to fail.

Other shit that could be happening...

CPU bottleneck – Some codecs (like 10-bit H.264/HEVC or AV1) are still heavy on the CPU if hardware acceleration isn’t working.

Driver issues – Outdated or corrupt GPU drivers can mimic “dying hardware” symptoms.

Faulty RAM or storage – Slow or failing RAM/SSD/HDD can also cause stuttering.

High-bitrate or poorly encoded files – Even a healthy PC can struggle with extremely high-bitrate rips.

If I was using Media Player Classic Home Cinema with the K-Lite Codec pack and still struggling to play something smoothly that was legally legit (video files that I purchased not exclusive to Anime). I be looking into getting my PC fixed or buy a new one. Not look for some new media player software. lol
@ColourWheel Replaying videos is nowhere near that hard as you make it sound like, and a software bug is way more likely to cause such lag than a dying hardware...
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I also vouch for VLC. That ol' orange traffic cone has never steered me wrong.
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JaniSIr said:
@ColourWheel Replaying videos is nowhere near that hard as you make it sound like, and a software bug is way more likely to cause such lag than a dying hardware...


@JaniSIr I get that software bugs happen, but the OP isn’t talking about a single video. it seems to be multiple Anime files with complex subtitle effects. If this were just a player bug, it wouldn’t consistently freeze only when fancy subtitles or lyric effects appear. That screams poorly encoded or fan-subbed files, not the software itself. And in the OP’s first example, even switching to “default” subtitles didn’t fix it.

Sure, software can make things worse, but the real issue is the source files being overly demanding to render likely combined with the health of their PC.

On top of that, if someone’s been hammering away on the same PC for 5+ years, subtle hardware degradation can absolutely amplify those freezes. That’s why I listed off other possible culprits... it’s not always “just software”.

More to the point, the OP specifically mentioned 1st a 2024 anime, fan-style subs, and using MPC-HC with K-Lite. That strongly suggests they’re dealing with shitty reencoded fan-subs from unofficial sources from the get go, which perfectly explains the stuttering and freezing.

My “anecdote” at the end was just me explaining what I’d do if I had the same issue (but I would be using legally acquired video files for testing). I also forgot to mention that I replace all my PCs throughout my entire house almost every 4–5 years, so if I ran into this on one of my latest builds (CLX Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 32GB DDR5, RTX 5070 Ti, 1TB SSD + 2TB HDD), I wouldn’t waste time... I’d either fix it or swap it out for something better. Not go hunting for a different media player software. lol
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if you have issues with the subtitles try increasing the "sub pictures to buffer" value in the subtitle settings or change the renderer to DirectVobSub

i use mpc-hc with madvr, debanding and lumasharpen shader, mpv ui just looks ugly imo
@vivi3107
I tested with pre-buffering 15 and allowing drops if the queue was running late.
It's not perfect, but it already improved a lot on Rozen Maiden.

Didn't solve for Girls Band Cry: This makes the subs in those parts either disappear completely or flicker.
I have no idea what kind of hack job was done on them, because on base settings, those would lag even disabling styles.
I could try some big number like pre-buffer 100, but I don't have enough CPU power for that.
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@ColourWheel Replaying videos is nowhere near that hard as you make it sound like, and a software bug is way more likely to cause such lag than a dying hardware...


@JaniSIr I get that software bugs happen, but the OP isn’t talking about a single video. it seems to be multiple Anime files with complex subtitle effects. If this were just a player bug, it wouldn’t consistently freeze only when fancy subtitles or lyric effects appear. That screams poorly encoded or fan-subbed files, not the software itself. And in the OP’s first example, even switching to “default” subtitles didn’t fix it.

Sure, software can make things worse, but the real issue is the source files being overly demanding to render likely combined with the health of their PC.

On top of that, if someone’s been hammering away on the same PC for 5+ years, subtle hardware degradation can absolutely amplify those freezes. That’s why I listed off other possible culprits... it’s not always “just software”.

More to the point, the OP specifically mentioned 1st a 2024 anime, fan-style subs, and using MPC-HC with K-Lite. That strongly suggests they’re dealing with shitty reencoded fan-subs from unofficial sources from the get go, which perfectly explains the stuttering and freezing.

My “anecdote” at the end was just me explaining what I’d do if I had the same issue (but I would be using legally acquired video files for testing). I also forgot to mention that I replace all my PCs throughout my entire house almost every 4–5 years, so if I ran into this on one of my latest builds (CLX Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 32GB DDR5, RTX 5070 Ti, 1TB SSD + 2TB HDD), I wouldn’t waste time... I’d either fix it or swap it out for something better. Not go hunting for a different media player software. lol
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Do you want me to DM you the specific subs I was using so you could test them yourself and see where the problem is?
Not sure if I can say fansub names here on MAL.
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I'm just using Celluloid, which is the default player on Mint. it works fine. on windows I used mpc
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@ColourWheel
Do you want me to DM you the specific subs I was using so you could test them yourself and see where the problem is?
Not sure if I can say fansub names here on MAL.


You don’t have to.. since you already mentioned that switching shit to “default” didn’t help in your first example, the issue is probably the shitty encoded anime you’ve been downloading. If it’s a fucking software problem, it could be an outdated codec pack, player settings, or driver conflicts. At worst, it could be your PC’s hardware struggling if your rig is fucking old or just has been heavily used. Generally, even complex subtitle effects shouldn’t make a PC drop FPS that low or freeze, especially since I doubt the Anime is in 4k+ or above and is generally not as intensive as a graphically demanding Video game. Even on lower-end builds, using “default” official subtitles shouldn’t be a problem, no matter what player you’re using.
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Do you want me to DM you the specific subs I was using so you could test them yourself and see where the problem is?
Not sure if I can say fansub names here on MAL.


You don’t have to.. since you already mentioned that switching shit to “default” didn’t help in your first example, the issue is probably the shitty encoded anime you’ve been downloading. If it’s a fucking software problem, it could be an outdated codec pack, player settings, or driver conflicts. At worst, it could be your PC’s hardware struggling if your rig is fucking old or just has been heavily used. Generally, even complex subtitle effects shouldn’t make a PC drop FPS that low or freeze, especially since I doubt the Anime is in 4k+ or above and is generally not as intensive as a graphically demanding Video game. Even on lower-end builds, using “default” official subtitles shouldn’t be a problem, no matter what player you’re using.
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You don’t have to.. since you already mentioned that switching shit to “default” didn’t help in your first example, the issue is probably the shitty encoded anime you’ve been downloading.

That's only the case for the GBC one, it's not an issue on Rozen Maiden (2013).
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even complex subtitle effects shouldn’t make a PC drop FPS that low or freeze

Not the PC, just the video player.
If I put a YouTube video while it plays that part, the YT video is unaffected.
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Media Player Classic. It comes with the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack and works fine, though I don't really use it anymore, all the anime I watch streams on Crunchyroll or some other site legally. Also Blu-Ray exists.
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Plex is my default, purely out of convenience. I have a playlist I watch from on there, and it's available on all the devices I use. When I stream over discord for my friend group's weekly watch party, I use playlists on VLC. Perfect quality is obviously not a huge concern for me.
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thewiru said:
ColourWheel said:
ColourWheel said:
even complex subtitle effects shouldn’t make a PC drop FPS that low or freeze

Not the PC, just the video player.
If I put a YouTube video while it plays that part, the YT video is unaffected.


That shit doesn’t really matter if the PC itself isn’t freezing. The FPS is still tied to how the video player and your hardware handle subtitle rendering. Complex ASS effects can slow down the renderer but it shouldn't freeze shit if your PC is properly working, whether it’s using the CPU or GPU, so stutter can happen even if the rest of the system looks fine. If a PC is in 100% prime condition and not too old, even most low-tier modern builds should be able to handle that shit without issue, and usually no matter what player is being used.

Subtitles by themselves aren’t graphically demanding, so if your playback is still struggling with that shit, it likely comes down to either shitty Anime encodings, shitty player settings, or fucking outdated/underpowered hardware. At worse it could be your PC is simply just dying if it's old now too. Most likely, it's your player that is choking combined with the current health of your PC, not YouTube or anything else. As an example, if you’re running a video off your HDD and it's got over 40,000 hours of use and your graphics card has over 30,000 hours of use too, that type of shit alone could be the problem.


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My TV, provided it's in 264X and 8bit. The PC option sucks, I used only this morning for the Kamen Rider Zeztz premiere on the Shout Factory youtube channel and, idea of watching for the first time my the first KR currently in production aside, it wasn't the best thing around. I'll wait for another copy throught the "illegitimate source" @ColourWheel says to watch it on my TV, hoping it comes with better subs and better resolution (Toei can fuck off for the laziness of their subbing efforts of their tokus). While I'm it, thank you @ColourWheel for the Agent AIKa suggestion, I downloaded it through the source you don't seem to like (unfortunately, a lot of times the only one presenting the animes in proper form, I.E. with kanji intros and outros and all the audio in its japanese version, see the DB/DBZ/GT rewatch I did recently) in 1080p and I (my dick) enjoyed it very much while watching it, particularly during those three times (!) in which I jerked to it (why people consider it an ecchi if it's 98% an hentai? no idea). The first series, the useless rest I can live without.
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Oh yeah, the flashing effects where there even with the Crunchyroll subs when I had to use them to finish Minky Momo because the fansubber stopped fansubbing it as it was officially licensed by them. At the very start, where the fansubber translated the OP song Crunchyroll simply put a crappy flashing MINKY MOMO!MINKY MOMO!MINKY MOMO! and nothing else. Like the flashing was there with the terrible Zeztz subs of this morning, with unreadable blocks of text where no sane fansubber would have put them. Even discounting all the errors. And don't get me started of the ipermegagigashitty subs in my country from the "official sorce" of equally shitty series like Tiger Mask (as unprofessional as made by made children) because if I started I would have not ended by the end of the century.
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ProudElitist said:
My TV, provided it's in 264X and 8bit. The PC option sucks, I used only this morning for the Kamen Rider Zeztz premiere on the Shout Factory youtube channel and, idea of watching for the first time my the first KR currently in production aside, it wasn't the best thing around. I'll wait for another copy throught the "illegitimate source" @ColourWheel says to watch it on my TV, hoping it comes with better subs and better resolution (Toei can fuck off for the laziness of their subbing efforts of their tokus). While I'm it, thank you @ColourWheel for the Agent AIKa suggestion, I downloaded it through the source you don't seem to like (unfortunately, a lot of times the only one presenting the animes in proper form, I.E. with kanji intros and outros and all the audio in its japanese version, see the DB/DBZ/GT rewatch I did recently) in 1080p and I (my dick) enjoyed it very much while watching it, particularly during those three times (!) in which I jerked to it (why people consider it an ecchi if it's 98% an hentai? no idea). The first series, the useless rest I can live without.


lol Glad you enjoyed "Agent Aika", but just because you jerked off to it doesn’t make that shit Hentai. 😅

It’s like a horny teen getting caught by their mom while staring at some shit like a sexy MMO character... Just because they fucking got off to it, doesn’t make that shit Porn material. Back in the Mid 2000s, YouTube had exactly that kind of viral content, and anyone who has watched those type of short comical clips back then knows exactly what I am talking about (15 second short clips of some kid getting caught by someone jerking off to 124-bit video game graphics, like a WoW character. lol).

As for Anime itself, subtitles flooding the screen have always been a nightmare. Fan-made kanji subs for intros and outros, English subs on the bottom, romaji, hiragana, katakana, all at once, over half the screen is fucking blocked off with walls of text by that point lol. Anime in general has never meant to be consumed with any fucking subtitles. I fucking love that I grew up in Japan and understand Nihongo fluently, so I don’t need that shit just to follow along and understand any dialog in Anime.

Also, props for watching on TV with proper resolution; watching full length Anime series on a fucking PC is always trash compared to the comfort of sitting on something like an extremely comfortable couch and seeing Anime full blown on a 65" BRAVIA screen.
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My TV, provided it's in 264X and 8bit. The PC option sucks, I used only this morning for the Kamen Rider Zeztz premiere on the Shout Factory youtube channel and, idea of watching for the first time my the first KR currently in production aside, it wasn't the best thing around. I'll wait for another copy throught the "illegitimate source" @ColourWheel says to watch it on my TV, hoping it comes with better subs and better resolution (Toei can fuck off for the laziness of their subbing efforts of their tokus). While I'm it, thank you @ColourWheel for the Agent AIKa suggestion, I downloaded it through the source you don't seem to like (unfortunately, a lot of times the only one presenting the animes in proper form, I.E. with kanji intros and outros and all the audio in its japanese version, see the DB/DBZ/GT rewatch I did recently) in 1080p and I (my dick) enjoyed it very much while watching it, particularly during those three times (!) in which I jerked to it (why people consider it an ecchi if it's 98% an hentai? no idea). The first series, the useless rest I can live without.


lol Glad you enjoyed "Agent Aika", but just because you jerked off to it doesn’t make that shit Hentai. 😅

It’s like a horny teen getting caught by their mom while staring at some shit like a sexy MMO character... Just because they fucking got off to it, doesn’t make that shit Porn material. Back in the Mid 2000s, YouTube had exactly that kind of viral content, and anyone who has watched those type of short comical clips back then knows exactly what I am talking about (15 second short clips of some kid getting caught by someone jerking off to 124-bit video game graphics, like a WoW character. lol).

As for Anime itself, subtitles flooding the screen have always been a nightmare. Fan-made kanji subs for intros and outros, English subs on the bottom, romaji, hiragana, katakana, all at once, over half the screen is fucking blocked off with walls of text by that point lol. Anime in general has never meant to be consumed with any fucking subtitles. I fucking love that I grew up in Japan and understand Nihongo fluently, so I don’t need that shit just to follow along and understand any dialog in Anime.

Also, props for watching on TV with proper resolution; watching full length Anime series on a fucking PC is always trash compared to the comfort of sitting on something like an extremely comfortable couch and seeing Anime full blown on a 65" BRAVIA screen.
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Anime in general has never meant to be consumed with any any fucking subtitles. I fucking love that I grew up in Japan and understand Nihongo fluently, so I don’t need that shit just to follow along and understand any dialog in Japanese Anime.


Sometimes you need subtitles to understand what the characters are saying. that includes Japanese subtitles. For example in a few scenes in the anime A Sign of Affection.
Unless you know sign language, you need to read the Japanese subs - or in your case, English subtitles since you don't actually know how to read Japanese.
One of these days I'll try watching the series on mute after learning more about Japanese sign language.

Another example is when a character speaks or sends a text message in a foreign language, like old-fashioned German in the anime World Dai Star. Unless you know old German, you'll need subs (in your case, English subs since you don't actually know how read Japanese) to understand what is being said.
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DreamingBeats said:
Sometimes you need subtitles to understand what the characters are saying. that includes Japanese subtitles. For example in a few scenes in the anime A Sign of Affection.
Unless you know sign language, you need to read the Japanese subs - or in your case, English subtitles since you don't actually know how to read Japanese.
One of these days I'll try watching the series on mute after learning more about Japanese sign language.


Haha, that’s a serious fucking edge case... like watching a Star Trek episode where half the dialogue is in Klingon. I wouldn’t waste my time watching some shit like "A Sign of Affection" anyways. lol

And actually, I can read Nihongo now... hiragana and katakana, no longer need Romaji to understand shit after almost over 4 decades now. Took me over six months and spent over 5 hours a day to take the time to learn it (helped I already knew Nihongo fluently), but I finally have that shit down too now. So yeah, I can survive Anime without subtitles… though I might still skip Klingon-level Anime titles. lol
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Sometimes you need subtitles to understand what the characters are saying. that includes Japanese subtitles. For example in a few scenes in the anime A Sign of Affection.
Unless you know sign language, you need to read the Japanese subs - or in your case, English subtitles since you don't actually know how to read Japanese.
One of these days I'll try watching the series on mute after learning more about Japanese sign language.


Haha, that’s a serious fucking edge case... like watching a Star Trek episode where half the dialogue is in Klingon. I wouldn’t waste my time watching some shit like "A Sign of Affection" anyways. lol

And actually, I can read Nihongo now... hiragana and katakana, no longer need Romaji to understand shit after almost over 4 decades now. Took me over six months and spent over 5 hours a day to take the time to learn it (helped I already knew Nihongo fluently), but I finally have that shit down too now. So yeah, I can survive Anime without subtitles… though I might still skip Klingon-level Anime titles. lol
@ColourWheel you also need to be able to read words written in kanji as well. subs written entirely in kana is almost no different from romaji. it's better, but only marginally.
though from my experience at least, you barely need to be at a CEFR B1 level/JLPT N3 to understand those subs in anime. they are usually super-easy to read and understand.
edit: actually, depending on the subs, even a CEFR A2 level in reading comprehension might be enough.
DreamingBeatsYesterday, 9:51 AM
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/.
The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish.
Show your support to your favorite artist if you can!
ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name.

For those who want to learn Japanese through anime
Resources for learning the language
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@ColourWheel you also need to be able to read words written in kanji as well. subs written entirely in kana is almost no different from romaji. it's better, but only marginally.
though from my experience at least, you barely need to be at a CEFR B1 level/JLPT N3 to understand those subs in anime. they are usually super-easy to read and understand.
edit: actually, depending on the subs, even a CEFR A2 level in reading comprehension might be enough.
DreamingBeats said:
@ColourWheel you also need to be able to read words written in kanji as well. subs written entirely in kana is almost no different from romaji. it's better, but only marginally.
though from my experience at least, you barely need to be at a CEFR B1 level/JLPT N3 to understand those subs in anime. they are usually super-easy to read and understand.


...And i have already been able to recognize that shit over my lifetime just from being exposed to it. I have been able to recognize over 2000 commonly used sets that frequently appear in shit like newspapers, official documents, signs, and daily conversation, etc... so I can piece it all together now.

And anything I don't know I learn it as i come across it quickly now.


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DreamingBeats said:
@ColourWheel you also need to be able to read words written in kanji as well. subs written entirely in kana is almost no different from romaji. it's better, but only marginally.
though from my experience at least, you barely need to be at a CEFR B1 level/JLPT N3 to understand those subs in anime. they are usually super-easy to read and understand.


...And i have already been able to recognize that shit over my lifetime just from being exposed to it. I have been able to recognize over 2000 commonly used sets that frequently appear in shit like newspapers, official documents, signs, and daily conversation, etc... so I can piece it all together now.

And anything I don't know I learn it as i come across it quickly now.
@ColourWheel I need subtitles because I don't speak a zero of japanese and I'm not from Japan nor I have ever been or I will ever be to Japan in my entire life. I also need subtitles because animes are not the only thing I watch of japanese - my TV de facto speaks only japanese - and I don't know the language, nor I have any interest in learning it (as the good Otaku I am, I am lazy ASF and proud of it). It has nothing to do with me jerking the fact that AIKa is 98% an hentai, it has to do that there women are portrayed in extremely sexual position and a whole slew of shots of them fully naked are included in the package. The only two things that they don't show are direct sexual acts and the pu$$y, everything else is shown. The ecchi tag has no reason whatsoever to be applied to AIKa, like it had no reason to be applied to Golden Boy. It's like saying that a dog is not a dog because it has no tail (there are actual dog races with no tail) or that a bird is no bird because it doesn't fly, it makes zero sense. I also consume hentai pictures on a daily basis, so I know more or less what is hentai or not.
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My TV, provided it's in 264X and 8bit. The PC option sucks, I used only this morning for the Kamen Rider Zeztz premiere on the Shout Factory youtube channel and, idea of watching for the first time my the first KR currently in production aside, it wasn't the best thing around. I'll wait for another copy throught the "illegitimate source" @ColourWheel says to watch it on my TV, hoping it comes with better subs and better resolution (Toei can fuck off for the laziness of their subbing efforts of their tokus). While I'm it, thank you @ColourWheel for the Agent AIKa suggestion, I downloaded it through the source you don't seem to like (unfortunately, a lot of times the only one presenting the animes in proper form, I.E. with kanji intros and outros and all the audio in its japanese version, see the DB/DBZ/GT rewatch I did recently) in 1080p and I (my dick) enjoyed it very much while watching it, particularly during those three times (!) in which I jerked to it (why people consider it an ecchi if it's 98% an hentai? no idea). The first series, the useless rest I can live without.


lol Glad you enjoyed "Agent Aika", but just because you jerked off to it doesn’t make that shit Hentai. 😅

It’s like a horny teen getting caught by their mom while staring at some shit like a sexy MMO character... Just because they fucking got off to it, doesn’t make that shit Porn material. Back in the Mid 2000s, YouTube had exactly that kind of viral content, and anyone who has watched those type of short comical clips back then knows exactly what I am talking about (15 second short clips of some kid getting caught by someone jerking off to 124-bit video game graphics, like a WoW character. lol).

As for Anime itself, subtitles flooding the screen have always been a nightmare. Fan-made kanji subs for intros and outros, English subs on the bottom, romaji, hiragana, katakana, all at once, over half the screen is fucking blocked off with walls of text by that point lol. Anime in general has never meant to be consumed with any fucking subtitles. I fucking love that I grew up in Japan and understand Nihongo fluently, so I don’t need that shit just to follow along and understand any dialog in Anime.

Also, props for watching on TV with proper resolution; watching full length Anime series on a fucking PC is always trash compared to the comfort of sitting on something like an extremely comfortable couch and seeing Anime full blown on a 65" BRAVIA screen.
@ColourWheel Sorry, I didn't see the rest of your comment. No, I don't care of Kanji writings in subs (my TV doesn't see them anyway), the only ones I care are in the original intro and outros, the karaoke thing. And without illicit sources chances are you're not going to see them alltogether. For example they removed them from the remastered version of the Dragon Ball original trilogy that they stream online, whereas with illicit sources you can see the proper version. On my TV eh, it's an old ASF TV from 2016, it's not very good but it suffices. It will suffice tonight with No. 1 Sentai Gozyuger and Zeztz.
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It has nothing to do with me jerking the fact that AIKa is 98% an hentai, it has to do that there women are portrayed in extremely sexual position and a whole slew of shots of them naked are included in the package.


Yeah, but it's not Hentai. If something being sexually appealing is the bar for being Hentai material, then a fucking mid-90s 'Victoria’s Secret' catalog is prime pornographic smut. lol

Provocation doesn’t equate to pornography. "Hentai" implies explicit and graphic sexual acts and actual explicit fucking sexual activity being shown, not just fanservice, nudity, or suggestive angles. "Agent AIKa" is Ecchi-heavy with panties being obnoxiously thrown in the viewers faces so many time one could practically pretend to smell the animated Coochi, sure, but it hardly crosses that line into shit like hentai territory. lol

BTW if you loved "Agent Aika" so much, you would probably love another Studio Fantasia Anime series called "Najica Blitz Tactics". lol
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I'm just using Celluloid, which is the default player on Mint. it works fine. on windows I used mpc
@DreamingBeats celluloid is a gui front end of mpv so ye
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@DreamingBeats celluloid is a gui front end of mpv so ye
@deg oh, i didn't know that. thanks for the info.
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/.
The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish.
Show your support to your favorite artist if you can!
ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name.

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ProudElitist said:
It has nothing to do with me jerking the fact that AIKa is 98% an hentai, it has to do that there women are portrayed in extremely sexual position and a whole slew of shots of them naked are included in the package.


Yeah, but it's not Hentai. If something being sexually appealing is the bar for being Hentai material, then a fucking mid-90s 'Victoria’s Secret' catalog is prime pornographic smut. lol

Provocation doesn’t equate to pornography. "Hentai" implies explicit and graphic sexual acts and actual explicit fucking sexual activity being shown, not just fanservice, nudity, or suggestive angles. "Agent AIKa" is Ecchi-heavy with panties being obnoxiously thrown in the viewers faces so many time one could practically pretend to smell the animated Coochi, sure, but it hardly crosses that line into shit like hentai territory. lol

BTW if you loved "Agent Aika" so much, you would probably love another Studio Fantasia Anime series called "Najica Blitz Tactics". lol
@ColourWheel the hentai dakimakura of No. 18 I have in my bed right now (I was hugging her a few seconds ago) disagrees. She's not shown in any direct sexual activity, yet she's completely naked from head to toe. If you cover her vag it's still an hentai dakimakura nonetheless. And so the other two dakis I own, they're all hentai ones but the most sexual activity they make is an ahegao face. Nothing direct or explicit. In reality I was thinking of Queen's blade, but I don't know. I have still Dr. Slump and Arale to start.
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It has nothing to do with me jerking the fact that AIKa is 98% an hentai, it has to do that there women are portrayed in extremely sexual position and a whole slew of shots of them naked are included in the package.


Yeah, but it's not Hentai. If something being sexually appealing is the bar for being Hentai material, then a fucking mid-90s 'Victoria’s Secret' catalog is prime pornographic smut. lol

Provocation doesn’t equate to pornography. "Hentai" implies explicit and graphic sexual acts and actual explicit fucking sexual activity being shown, not just fanservice, nudity, or suggestive angles. "Agent AIKa" is Ecchi-heavy with panties being obnoxiously thrown in the viewers faces so many time one could practically pretend to smell the animated Coochi, sure, but it hardly crosses that line into shit like hentai territory. lol

BTW if you loved "Agent Aika" so much, you would probably love another Studio Fantasia Anime series called "Najica Blitz Tactics". lol
@ColourWheel OMFG you suggested me a series with Emi Shinohara-sensei the day before she died a year ago, without knowing it. I love Emi like I love his husband (he's my favourite tokusatsu actor ever), you have no idea the pain I suffered a year ago because of her stupid death. Stupid because it made no sense whatsoever, she was 100% healthy until some weeks before she died. This studio surely knew how to get big Seiyuus with big followings to voice their works.
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