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If you buy a Star and it is found that life lives there, do you own every living thing?

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Say someone gives you a piece of paper that says you own a star, you keep it and pass it on to your kids and their kids, and then life is found on a planet orbiting the star.

Do you own everything there?
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You only own a scrap of paper that tell everyone you were dumb enough to spend money to attach your name to a random star on some irrelevant register.
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The star is considered unowned, until the original act of appropriation (i.e. you homestead the star), at which point it becomes your private property (assuming there is no rational life that had previously done the same). Assuming the people on the orbiting planet are rational beings, you would obviously not own them, since, they own themselves.

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No since the Outer Space Treaty prohibits ownership of extraterrestrial properties, and owning a star wouldn't give you rights to its planetary system even if it didn't.
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According to the current state of space law (notably the Outer Space Treaty from 1967; read it all of your want, it's not long), in theory - yes, if said action is authorized by the government of an individual claiming such rights; no, if said government did not authorized such actions. By the way, they'd have to include not only the ownership of said star, but the whole solar system, to later claim any object belonging to it as their own.

In theory it's easy to imagine, but I can't see it working well in practice for such a huge area as the whole distant solar system in the modern era. I wouldn't automatically apply Age of Discovery's typical elements to other things related to discovery and claiming anything discovered. But hey, we are just theorizing for fun, so whatever. :P There are also moral and ethic questions regarding the living organisms living there. What if they were on a similar intellectual level to humans, not on a level similar to, say, cattle or pets (like cows or hamsters, y'know, animals that have their rights, but are owned by humans and don't have equal rights to humans)? Would it be "history repeats itself" moment, with brutal colonization, just taking place in space? Or maybe a new chapter in the history of mankind, where peaceful cooperation between two different and intelligent species could take place? Hard to tell.

Anyway, the rule I mentioned earlier applies to all state parties of the treaty, but given how it was signed and ratified by most of UN members, including superpowers, it's unlikely that any serious individual action performed by any country belonging to the non-parties group, that'd be against the treaty, would be ignored by the rest of the international community. In practice it's hard to imagine someone who wouldn't be their government's puppet (aka "unofficial official") to perform such action and succeed in it.
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I don't know, but I wouldn't be happy on the receiving end if I were an alien there.
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"If you buy a Star and it is found that life lives there, do you own every living thing?"

Not really.
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This reminds me of one episode of Ultraseven but it is only tangentially related

When they nuke that planet that turns out had an eggs and then it becomes a radioactive burden kaiju



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You don't actually own it. You just pay for an association with it on a map basically. Same with buying land on the moon or land in some forest somewhere and so on. Also even if you really did own a star/sun you wouldnt own the planets orbiting it.
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Star being mainly build by gases and sometimes metals, having a lot of plasma in it. I don't think there is even a slight chance fo life to be there...

And owning a star isn't equal to owning a whole planetary system.
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You can't own any celestial body, you can "operate" on it but the authorization is given by all governments that signed the treaty.
The people that sold pieces of the moon, yes they did but on a legal point of view has no value, it's basically a scam.
Even just the people involved in the trading of moon rocks have gotten into serious trouble because it's heavily forbidden.
As soon as there is the technology to reach a habitable planet or terraform celestial bodies whether it is a person, a company, an institution or a government someone will become the owner.
Owning life forms is a more complex matter, if it is income-generating animal-aliens or "aliens-wildlife" if it is income-generating alien-vegetation or alien-wild vegetation, with alien life forms everything becomes even more complicated so it is impossible to predict what the governments of the earth might decide about it but probably everything will be strictly regulated with permits and prohibitions. If you are just using terrestrial DNA-ark and basically repopulating such planet with terrestrial life forms the prohibitions could be less.
My idea is that each planet should create its own individual regulation and take into account the terrestrial one only relatively because galactic laws should be only followed as guidelines.

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