Dungeon Meshi Episode 12 Discussion

What a massive asspull.



This is writing 101, don't pull out stunts in the heat of the moment. Making Marcille an expert in black magic is just another level of cheapness. Kinda reminds me of the cheap writing in Kanata no Astra with glasses-kun being able to build and repair anything in a spaceship out stranded in the middle of another galaxy.

I know for sure more than one will say "bUt sHe hAs bE3n StUdInyIng bLack maGikS wItHoUt teLlIn anYoNe" and with that line of thought she could also be studying rocket science and people should buy it just because the author said so. The icying on the cheap narrative is that she also knows human anatomy just as good or even better than an actual physician. Also quite convenient that the dungeon only keeps humanoid souls trapped but any other creature they are free to go (don't want to resurrect your waifu with half dog soul, don't ya?)

And of course, the fanservice also has to be part of the narrative, because how else can you keep interested on the horny kids that watch this show just for the waifus.

@Kimurah I totally agree. The entire plot here is propelled solely by deus ex machina moments. It looks incredibly contrived when a character suddenly, out of nowhere and for no reason, turns out to be a mega-expert in dark magic and starts performing some wild rituals. Though, judging by everything, the average viewer will gobble up anything as long as it just looks pretty and epic.

I don’t understand their explanation from this episode about how you can resurrect a person by sacrificing 40 pigs or goats. Do they have gigantic herds of animals grazing in the dungeon? Because earlier it was said that resurrection isn’t possible outside the dungeon. So the resurrection rule doesn’t actually hold up? Or are there somehow constant incredible deliveries of tons of livestock into the dungeon all the time?

The humor, which takes up probably 40% of the runtime, is likely the most boring I’ve seen in the last 20 titles I’ve watched—literally like Konosuba seasons 2–3, but completely toothless. And the local waifus generate zero interest because of their constant whining. The cooking, which also eats up about 40% of the time, doesn’t spark any interest either. So in the end, I’m watching this for the remaining 20%, hoping that at least something interesting will happen in this fantasy world, although the setting is, once again, just standard D&D.

@OrigamistToo You're trying way too hard to sound smart and cultured. If you don't like this series then just drop it. Nobody wants to read essays responding to other essays where its just two dweebs jerking each other off about how the good thing is actually bad and everyone else is dumb for liking it. Especially, whining about how the cooking and comedy are uninteresting parts in a comedy series about cooking just makes you look like a fool for wasting this much time watching it.

I also think the idea that Marcille knowing dark resurrection magic being a shitty deus ex machina is also desperate nerd complaining. Personally I don't really care that a comedy series might fudge the rules a bit but this isn't even that. Its not like the series established any reason she couldn't resurrect Falim. And I assume there's going to be some sort of fallout from how she did it exactly because they even said it would've been possible to hire someone and then bring them down and do it but that would've been really boring and dumb. Like, why would anyone think that would be better storytelling?

Anyway, at the risk of turning in yet another dumbass essay nobody is going to bother reading: this episode was fun. This series is really good. The cooking conceit isn't quite enough to keep a show running for more than a handful of episodes so thankfully the comedy is very funny. Now that the main goal has been achieved we'll see if the main plot continues as something interesting or if it becomes complete window dressing.