| I have watched the old series - the first two seasons. (But none of the later stuff ... I think there were some short OVAs.) I did not like the first season that much. Second season - with the more reveals and background info ... was more to my taste. Later for Umineko I read the whole visual (or "sound" as they call it) novels. Loved the first part. Second part ... was nice as well but it felt a bit pointless at the end that you had to read tons of prevous parts just to get that ending. Anime the first part was boring. (I get the feeling ... here I might as well have preferred the 2nd part of an anime - if there had been anime for this.) Now I did not watch the other small stuff (OVA) of Higurashi cause I did not like the setting that much. Heard this one was going to be a "reboot" and thought "okay ... boring cause it probably will only adapt the first boring half in the first season". Now others are talking about it being a sequel. And references to Umineko. How is this possible? More loops of the same stuff that happened in old season 1 and 2 and referencdes to this - with the old stuff already happened in that timeline? Is Ryukishi even involved? Or something the anime screenwriters made up on their own? If there was a chance that later Umineko stuff got adapted as well and you "needed" to have watched this ... I might pick it up. But if this is just supposed to be standalone "milking" the Higurashi franchise (since Higurashi anime had been more popular especially in the west) I probably do not want to watch it. Story summary (especially of the meta story with the stuff in the background that leads to the loops) - would be interesting. I never really liked the small arcs itself and the chars/setting that much. Umineko setting was much cooler and tbh I liked the other novel with the school setting and bullying and stuff even more - even though it was short. And Rose Guns Days (totally different approach) was the best work if 07th expansion and Ryukisho07. Tiranthology thing did not get a translation so I did not read it. (Might give that one a try. As well as the recent work that started ... 2019 I I think. Once there are translations and maybe once everything is released. Though it seem she is going to do the old approach he used in Umineko/Higurashi since it is part of the "when they cry" stuff.) |
Luthandorius said: Is Ryukishi even involved? Or something the anime screenwriters made up on their own? Yes, Ryu is the one who wrote the story/script. Luthandorius said: How is this possible? More loops of the same stuff that happened in old season 1 and 2 and referencdes to this - with the old stuff already happened in that timeline? Just watch the first arc/4eps and you'll get why this's is a sequel, it takes place after Kai/Rei and starts with similar loops that happened in the OG but changes later. I would also recommend reading Saikoroshi manga/VN, it has small Umineko stuff too about Bernkastel (the anime skips most of them), if you won't read then just watch Rei. |
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| As long as you watched the first two seasons youll be fine. Umineko is also a nice bonus. https://github.com/07th-mod/higurashi-console-arcs you dont need them for Gou at all, but did you read the fan translated console only arcs? Theyre good too. |
| Thanks for the answers. Not really what I wanted to know though. I actually to know if I "might like it" (considering the other stuff I wrote about what I liked from the previous works of Ryukishi07). Not if I can watch it without having watched the OVAs. So I guess this first part is still (while giving more other infos earlier) mainly in arcs and about the persons there in the village and less about the overall plot/arc (that which makes them stay in the loop). More like the season 1 of Higurashi and less like part 2 (and less like part 2 of Umineko)? Actually I can't stand it if this drags on too long. I wish there were some conslusion to all of this instead of making always new Higurashi stuff. Maybe I will wait for season 2 to air (and until it is finished) to see if there is a conclusion (breaking out of the loops and finishing with Higurashi once and for all with no room for furhter stuff). End of Umineko 2nd part actually felt conslusive. |
Luthandorius said: Thanks for the answers. Not really what I wanted to know though. I actually to know if I "might like it" (considering the other stuff I wrote about what I liked from the previous works of Ryukishi07). Not if I can watch it without having watched the OVAs. You probably won't like it, but it's better to try for yourself. |
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| Ye, it's sequel and Ryu is involved. Form is pretty much his style, first we receive reaptable question arcs and then the answer arcs. So you read the Umineko, and you know Frederika Bernkastel and Lambdadelta. I would say Gou take place between original Higurashi and Umineko and explains a lot about Rika/Frederika, Satoko/Lambdadelta. I don't won't to spoil you, I think sole that should convice you to watch the Gou. |
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Luthandorius said: Thanks for the answers. Not really what I wanted to know though. I actually to know if I "might like it" (considering the other stuff I wrote about what I liked from the previous works of Ryukishi07). Not if I can watch it without having watched the OVAs. So I guess this first part is still (while giving more other infos earlier) mainly in arcs and about the persons there in the village and less about the overall plot/arc (that which makes them stay in the loop). More like the season 1 of Higurashi and less like part 2 (and less like part 2 of Umineko)? Actually I can't stand it if this drags on too long. I wish there were some conslusion to all of this instead of making always new Higurashi stuff. Maybe I will wait for season 2 to air (and until it is finished) to see if there is a conclusion (breaking out of the loops and finishing with Higurashi once and for all with no room for furhter stuff). End of Umineko 2nd part actually felt conslusive. If anything Gou is going harder into the fantasy stuff than the original Higurashi did, with a bigger focus on the loop mechanics, fragments and the god that gives that power once it actually starts explaining what's going on. The first half are mysteries that mirror the original, but have different endings, while the second part is straight up a new plot that mostly explains everything about Gou's overall plot set up, aside from specific details of the initial arcs, although the show ends before a resolution can be achieved. The upcoming Sotsu should have specific answers for the initial arcs and the actual story resolution. As far as the Umineko connections go, several plot elements and quotes, especially in the last few episodes, mirror backstory stuff related to Bernkastel and two other characters from Umineko. If it continues all the way Sotsu should have a pretty conclusive ending, but obviously at this point we can't know if it's going all the way there. Gou treats fantasy as actual fantasy that exists in the story though, without attempts to "ground" it like Umineko did with the real world counterparts of the fantasy elements. |
| Oh, I see. I guess I'll skip on this totally then. Seems for some reason this type of story/writing is popular with the fans ... when it actually is bad when you disovered how it works. Umineko was fun and had a good conclusion ... but really: I do think 2 novels would have been enough instead of 2x4. He just wanted to milk that fantasy plot/setting cause some people like it. and in Higurashi it is even worse it seems. I'll focus on his other works (novels) that are not part of the "When They Cry". If there are any in the future. Rose Guns Days really was great compared to the other stuff. Not too prolonged. Still good sound and plot and no weird fantasy stuff. I this this one is really only for the most die-hard fans of old season one. (That probably also llike gore cause it is "cool".) Not for people actually trying to find some decent plot. I think he should have wrapped things up in the original novels - I mean for Higurashi afaik it also was 2x4 (4 question, 4 answer) + some extras ... which also is a ton of stuff already. It's not like the chars are anythign special or intersesting to justify "milking" this franchise endlessly + the village setting is not as nice as the island/manor in Umineko. |
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