Weathering With You
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| a good movie for a "rainy" (ba dum tsk) day, watched it since most say its somewhat connected to kimi no na wa. while it didnt hit me as hard as that, this was still a good watch as a standalone also didnt realize it was taki til everyone here said it was, lol yeah im capt oblivious |
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| i was loving the movie untill its final 30 minutes, i think it stumble a bit during its final act 8/10 |
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| Just watched Suzume yesterday, and as usual, Makoto Shinkai left me wanting MORE. Already re-watched Your Name a couple times already, so how about we pay a visit to Weathering With You, a movie which I left with rather poor opinions. I remember thinking: "huh?? how does any of this work??" I was mainly perplexed at how easy it seemed for Hodoka to go up into the clouds and bring Hina back with him. But my expectations for something that fully made sense were misplaced. I didn't REALLY question the supernatural aspect in Your Name, and didn't in Suzume either. Maybe I should turn a BIT of my brain off and just let the emotions flow. And now on second viewing, knowing what to expect, it was.... quite magical, actually. I stated in my post in the Suzume discussion thread that I liked it more than Weathering With You. But now, I have to reconsider that. I think it might just be the other way around. I really enjoyed this. I think the most important discussion to be had with Shinkai's films are the romance, because that's like the main genre they pretty much all fall into after all. Your Name, as great as the emotional highs were, was lacking in the well-developed-romance department (or maybe it's time to revisit Your Name again as well, with an even more open mind). I for one realized that I didn't 100% buy that they had fallen for each other. Maybe I missed some subtle hints to how their love had blossomed, hidden amongst the time in which they had switched bodies. Hmm, spoiler alert? Nah, if you're one of the few people here reading this, you've seen Your Name already. Plus I think that aspect is in the trailers and is a main plot point so, yeah. Anyway, I'm not going to mention the romance in Shikai's other works, because I haven't seen all of them, and if I did, it's been quite a while since then, speaking specifically about 5cm per second and Garden of Words (the milf and feet one LOL). I will mention Suzume's romance aspect, since I saw it yesterday after all. And for Suzume, the lack of development for their 'romance' isn't really an issue because it is not at the forefront this time. It's more about Suzume herself. Why she falls in love with the chair guy after like a day maybe is a bit of a stretch, but it isn't really dwelt upon THAT much so it's fine. It is odd how But that's a topic for THAT movie. Let's get back to the romance in Weathering With You: it works. It makes sense, you buy it, you can understand and get behind it. They've spent enough time with each other, they've done things that would make them fall for each other. The believability of the romance is not an issue this time around. And because of that, everything comes together, is plausible, and makes sense. For the most part. Briefly touching on Suzume again, Hodoka was not fully aware of what would come next after he passed through the shrine. He knew that the never-ending rain would return, but did he anticipate Tokyo getting flooded? Maybe, but maybe not. At least it's something that could be dealt with, I'm sure everyone had evacuated safely as they saw the water levels rising. He does show some regret for what he has caused. But his love for Hina is greater than an un-flooded Tokyo! I remember actually cringing at the part where he's yelling and fighting everyone just to go and hopefully see and rescue Hina. I was like, calm down dude, it's just a girl. But this time around, I felt that emotion. Dude not only loves her, but feels responsible as well. He was the one who got her into continuously using her sunshine girl powers, and ended up making her into a sacrifice (was this inevitable though? Would she have remained on the ground if she hadn't used her powers/prayers so much? And also, could she have left her heavenly sanctuary in the clouds at any time, did she need Hodoka for that? Because it seems like she could have easily walked off that cloud and come back. Perhaps she willingly stayed for the well-being of Tokyo as a whole, but I can imagine it'd get kind of lonely up there. Maybe that's why she looked like she was in hibernation mode. Either way, I just want to understand the technicalities just a LITTLE bit, because sometimes it can really influence the story. So, COULD SHE HAVE left at any time, or what?). I felt his absolutely laser-focused drive, or rather, near-insanity as he goes to save the person who had become his everything. Nothing else mattered in the moment, he didn't even know what would happen when he walked through those pillars. All he knew was that was the way to get Hina back, and in typical over-the-top romantic fashion, he risks it all with the sliver of hope that he could bring Hina back. And that brings us back to the romance: There are two instances in the film where the rain is addressed as "normal". The first time it is discussed how the amount of rain they are getting is only a lot depending on your perspective. The second time, we are straight up told that Tokyo used to be underwater, and now in a way it has returned to its "natural" state. The point of giving us this information is to tie it in with what's going on in Hodoka's head. It seems that he is using this fact to comfort himself, and maybe comfort Hina as well who might share the same guilt. He was going to say that it was alright for Tokyo to be submerged like a submarine, for that was it's natural state anyway. But then he says "No, WE did this" as the music starts playing. It makes them appear more selfish, but strengthens the power of their love as well. Because it just goes to show how much he was willing to sacrifice just to be with her again: the blue skies, not just for himself, but for everyone else too. Because SHE was HIS blue sky. It didn't matter what the natural state was, rain or shine, flood or no flood. The world is crazy, as he mutters to himself, so why not just f*ck it all just to be with your star-crossed- er, CLOUD-crossed lover? As they are falling through the sky, Hodoka tells Hina to pray for herself this time, and not for others, which she does. She's done enough for other people, so maybe it was time for her to stop being the sunshine girl for others, and to instead put some sunshine in her own life. We do see her praying again at the end there, but this time not for sunshine, but rather to say SORRY FOR NO-DIFFING YOU TOKYO THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR GIVING ME A HARD TIME- or something like that. So yeah, I said to myself that I liked Suzume more than this, but after revisiting this movie, I think I like this more. I do NOT remember this having the emotional highs that it did. I must have been blind and deaf and utterly ignorant back then. Because THAT moment, was simply magical. I can only imagine what it would have been like in a theatre full of people who adore Shinkai's works. If by some supernatural chance this movie returns to theatres, I'd go see it in a heartbeat, just for moments like these, which you really can't put a number on:  Speaking of putting a number on it, what's my new rating for Weathering With You? It's a 7, but higher than the 7.5 I gave Suzume, maybe a 7.7, which is much higher than the 4 or 5 I had initially left it with. I thought it was a really flawed movie, and I do still think that there are a few things that make me scratch my head a little. But again, you can't really put numbers on moments where A GRAND ESCAPE starts playing. Maybe not as iconic as "Sparkle", but damn once that chorus hits, you are just sent to the ethereal plane. Shinkai's movies are like 10/10 visuals and music in a 5/10 story with 5/10 characters, but with 11/10 moments. I now want to re-watch Your Name for the 4th time, but I think my heart has had enough for one day. 7.7/10 |
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| Boring as all hell just like all the other movies. Your Name, Weathering With You & Suzume no Tojimari were all crap. |
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| It's amazing . The Visuals and RADWIMPS don't disappoint at all. |
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| Another masterpiece by Makoto Shinkai ...... started a bit slow but the ending is perfect |
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| In America hodoka kun will be full of holes from police guns and swat squad..the police would fire about 5 thousand bullets at hodoka.. And obviously people will demand that the government increase funding for bigger guns with dumdum bullets for the police.. That's why I stay with anime because it's a little different from real life and always wish the rain will come pouring down.. |
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| I watched it after Your Name and tbh I expected something different. Especially story, I think it would be better without police parts. |
| What a weird movie. My friend suggested I watch it (we gave each other five anime movies or OVAs to watch this month), but I really didn't know anything about it going in other than I had seen some of the director's other films. I did not like this. Weathering with You drags along for... a while. I've seen some reviews where people say it's more like a condensed anime series, and I agree. There's so much passage of time through the slice-of-life parts that it would do better to have a series for this. As a film, it really, really drags. You could cut a lot from this. This whole film should be 90 mins max or less. I was bored for a lot of it. Characters are weird and bland other than the side characters. There's a manic pixie dream girl and a plain boy who is surprisingly unhinged. I guess that's a thing. He pulls a gun on people and fires it at awkward moments! He ran away from home for some reason? He's sort of on some kind of quest for identity, but all he finds is that he wants to live in Tokyo with Hina. This is a terrible message. Plus he sacrifices the whole city for his love, even though Hina chose to fulfill her divine role. How did he even save her? How did he continually evade the police? Why were there so many themes centered around harsh realism that were never really addressed in meaningful ways? Why was the sky realm so... bland? It's a mess... |
satyrelfheimJan 27, 10:21 AM
| I like this anime, it has incredible animation, worthy of being done by Makoto Shinkai. Always emphasizing the simple features of everyday life. The story of this anime doesn't appeal to me as much as Your Name, because the protagonists are very young, practically children, and this limits the romance that the anime presents. If she followed the path of older protagonists, it would be much more interesting. |
| I liked Your Name more, but this was a very good movie too ! The animation was stunning, and I found the message about self-sacrifice (and the danger of it) to be very heartwarming. The little side message about grief adressed through Kei's character was very nice too, and I loved the parallel with Hodaka's love for Hina. But what made me not like it as much as I wanted too... There's a few reasons. The characters, who I liked but didn't stand out much (especially Hodaka who's just your typical MC) although Hina was endearing and I was moved by Kei's story. Also the message the movie unintentionally brings : while it's obviously important not to sacrifice yourself for someone else, I'm not sure I like the idea of just... not caring at all about what could go wrong in the world and just let everything happen even when you know you could do something about it. I know that's not what the movie meant to say ! But it's still what could accidentally be taken from it, and it forgets there can be a middle ground between self-sacrifice and selfishness. As for the other problems, another thread here already mentionned most of them so I won't repeat it. But overall, that was a very nice watch ! I give it a 7/10. (By the way, that little Mitsuha cameo was nice... But I also feel bad for the poor girl : is she doomed to experience every natural disaster that befalls the Earth ?) |
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