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Apr 21, 2018 10:48 AM
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Botan-Chan45 said:
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So many sensitive people in this thread. 2D ≠ real. Please get over it already.
Here is your answer if you can't understand. Aramias.


Sorry, but that comparison is not justifiable for loli porn. My opinions won't change on that, so we can just agree to disagree.
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Botan-Chan45 said:
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So I'm assuming you like little girls?
Go to my profile and see my pfp. Sonobe is a loli thats atleast 30 years old. Not so little anymore huh.

But she looks like a younger girl, so you like the looks of much younger girls.
Apr 21, 2018 10:50 AM

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Arimias said:
Botan-Chan45 said:
Here is your answer if you can't understand. Aramias.


Sorry, but that comparison is not justifiable for loli porn. My opinions won't change on that, so we can just agree to disagree.
Okay. Shouldve just said that from the start.
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Bakanzu said:
Botan-Chan45 said:
Go to my profile and see my pfp. Sonobe is a loli thats atleast 30 years old. Not so little anymore huh.

But she looks like a younger girl, so you like the looks of much younger girls.
I like petite girls in fiction. So yeah I like younger girls.(Doesn't mean I don't like milfs, gyaru, and other types of girls. I love all of them equally.)
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
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Apr 21, 2018 10:53 AM

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p e d o p h i l e s

yep, lolis are just lowkey pedophiles.



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Apr 21, 2018 12:33 PM

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Botan-Chan45 said:
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That is a bad comparison. Very bad.

Dont be attracted to depictions of children. Ever.
How? They're not even real. Also the fact it's fiction and not reality is also the biggest thing that deconstructs your very bad and "no it's not" argument. <go to profile> oh your friends with the devil. No wonder.


Something not being real doesnt make it less gross.
They are still representations of little kids (10-12 y.o.) being sexualised for the indulgence of the viewer.

If someone had a photorealistic cgi image of a naked little girl, it wouldnt make him less of a pedo.

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james501 said:
Botan-Chan45 said:
How? They're not even real. Also the fact it's fiction and not reality is also the biggest thing that deconstructs your very bad and "no it's not" argument. <go to profile> oh your friends with the devil. No wonder.


Something not being real doesnt make it less gross.
They are still representations of little kids (10-12 y.o.) being sexualised for the indulgence of the viewer.

If someone had a photorealistic cgi image of a naked little girl, it wouldnt make him less of a pedo.

and you still messed up the argument. Lolis are representation of a petite body. They can be 30 but still have a small petite body. Then your example falls flat too. Your comparing Shimakaze to a realistic looking kid.(Not even concerning the fact you used photorealistic.) You still don't understand, Reality =/= fiction. What your saying right now is just based on morality and feelings now with your example being plain retarded.

Stop quoting me now and let me enjoy my time.
Botan-Chan45Apr 21, 2018 1:05 PM
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NickDen said:
The same reason why rape hentai is so popular, when it's animated people can indulge in their fantasies without feeling guilt.


How do you even know which hentai type is the most popular? is there an official hall of fame?

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Botan-Chan45 said:
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Something not being real doesnt make it less gross.
They are still representations of little kids (10-12 y.o.) being sexualised for the indulgence of the viewer.

If someone had a photorealistic cgi image of a naked little girl, it wouldnt make him less of a pedo.

and you still messed up the argument. Lolis are representation of a petite body. They can be 30 but still have a small petite body.


That's a thermian argument however.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxV8gAGmbtk

There is no reason to make her look like that. It is unnatural.
Even real women who are short and petite have facial features that show their age. Lolis are just obviously kids who are "supposed" to be older. If their faces showed signs of older age, then we could talk

Botan-Chan45 said:


Then your example falls flat too. Your comparing Shimakaze to a realistic looking kid.(Not even concerning the fact you used photorealistic.) You still don't understand, Reality =/= fiction. What your saying right now is just based on morality and feelings now with your example being plain retarded.

Stop quoting me now and let me enjoy my time.


I used the example of a realistic kid to showcase that the "it's fiction" argument isnt valid.
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TsukuyomiREKT said:
So many sensitive people in this thread. 2D ≠ real. Please get over it already.
There are several things wrong with this sentence.
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Groenboys said:
TsukuyomiREKT said:
So many sensitive people in this thread. 2D ≠ real. Please get over it already.
There are several things wrong with this sentence.


Yeah, like nothing, nothing, and oh...nothing.

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james501 said:
Botan-Chan45 said:
and you still messed up the argument. Lolis are representation of a petite body. They can be 30 but still have a small petite body.


That's a thermian argument however.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxV8gAGmbtk

There is no reason to make her look like that. It is unnatural.
Even real women who are short and petite have facial features that show their age. Lolis are just obviously kids who are "supposed" to be older. If their faces showed signs of older age, then we could talk

Botan-Chan45 said:


Then your example falls flat too. Your comparing Shimakaze to a realistic looking kid.(Not even concerning the fact you used photorealistic.) You still don't understand, Reality =/= fiction. What your saying right now is just based on morality and feelings now with your example being plain retarded.

Stop quoting me now and let me enjoy my time.


I used the example of a realistic kid to showcase that the "it's fiction" argument isnt valid.
And you still fall flat. Once again you still use morality as an example. You just proved you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction. Also "facial features" on young looking characters to make them look old is your argument. Let that sink in before you say,"Thats a Thermain Argument." Once again stop associating irl to fiction. It's not pedophilia just like how killing people in CoD doesn't make you an automatic school shooter.
Botan-Chan45Apr 21, 2018 8:33 PM
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TsukuyomiREKT said:
Groenboys said:
There are several things wrong with this sentence.


Yeah, like nothing, nothing, and oh...nothing.
Smartest woman/man in this thread.
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
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Apr 21, 2018 2:20 PM

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cute -> checked
short -> checked
innocent -> checked
What do you want anymore this is more than enough
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Okay I don't even know where to start to disagree xD.
Toddlers are 12 to 36 months old by definition (not sure if you're aware of that, which could explain the misunderstanding), so even a 6 year old already is very different from a toddler, nevermind 13 year old teenagers.

Toddlers can't even talk yet so to me that makes them inherently different from older kids. I don't find babies very cute because they don't really interact or express themselves, and just need a lot of help with gross stuff like shitting and vomitting and whatnot, and toddlers aren't much different.

Imo irl kids are the cutest after they stop being toddlers and before they hit puberty (when they can talk and interact and everything, but are still innocent and honest). And yeah, lolis in anime do sometimes act more than kids that age (let's call it 4-8yos) than their actual age, but that's not toddler age. That's why what you said confused me.
Huh... you learn something new everyday.

But you get what I'm saying, kids was what I meant.

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Idk about you, but when I was 13 I was getting drunk for the first time, started smoking cigarettes and was anything but 'childlike cute'. Teenagers generally aren't in my experience, they're fucking brats. Only in anime can they be cute.
Well, personally I didn't do those things at that age. In fact I still don't (and won't ever) smoke. I actually just didn't like alcohol at that age.

Anyways it's not really what you do, it's how you think and speak. It's the early teenage innocence of thinking they can do everything that's kinda charming. They don't really read nuance and seem to think one-stop might actually solve complex problems facing society. Most of that is lost by the end of their teenage years, they start losing that optimism and start questioning motives.

Besides if you are referring specifically to people that are "uncute", spoiled obnoxious brats and assholes exist at all ages.
I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters.

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Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too.
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Ekaen said:
NickDen said:
The same reason why rape hentai is so popular, when it's animated people can indulge in their fantasies without feeling guilt.


How do you even know which hentai type is the most popular? is there an official hall of fame?


I've been in the hentai game for 11 years baby, I know what I'm talking about.
Apr 21, 2018 7:34 PM
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Because hearing them say onii-chan is satisfying
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50% of those who say they like lolis cuz they're cute and stuff lustfully love lolis.
Apr 22, 2018 4:12 AM

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Loli are small, small things are cute.
Specific art style also helps a lot.

Many people like cute things.
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes.

Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that.
It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers.
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Apr 22, 2018 4:13 AM

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Pedophiles. Not a meme. It really is a complete blight on Japanese society and anime in general.
Apr 22, 2018 4:19 AM

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Liking characters with enormous over sized heads, alien eyes, flat noses and invisible lips = Pedophile.

Does it mean that if you enjoy eating pizza you automatically want to have sex with your dead grandparents?
Apr 22, 2018 4:29 AM

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yes, lolis are great, no pedo btw, just look at this




Apr 22, 2018 7:37 AM

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Botan-Chan45 said:
james501 said:


That's a thermian argument however.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxV8gAGmbtk

There is no reason to make her look like that. It is unnatural.
Even real women who are short and petite have facial features that show their age. Lolis are just obviously kids who are "supposed" to be older. If their faces showed signs of older age, then we could talk



I used the example of a realistic kid to showcase that the "it's fiction" argument isnt valid.
And you still fall flat. Once again you still use morality as an example. You just proved you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.


I can tell them apart pretty well.
I still consider depiction of 10 year old sexualised children for the indulgence of the viewer gross.
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james501 said:
Botan-Chan45 said:
And you still fall flat. Once again you still use morality as an example. You just proved you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.


I can tell them apart pretty well.
I still consider depiction of 10 year old sexualised children for the indulgence of the viewer gross.
You dare mess with my time with Ippo just for this. Garbage.
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I don't really have a problem with lolis. I dont love them or hate them. But really its more of a personality thing.
Apr 2, 2020 1:36 PM
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I don't see the appeal, they can be cute but that's about it.

Some bad bad people are really into them however...
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Hear me out. the answer is similar to traps.

Draw a girl, and say it's a boy

Now

Draw a little girl, and say she's over 17yo (average age of consent)

It's still a little girl, and you're getting off on a little girl. People tend to take fictional/non-fictional ideas and place some ideas onto their reality. This is also similar all kinds of literature, and entertainment.

Now if your tend to LEWD THE LOLI, in return, mentality your are a Pedophile.
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creeps me out if your into that type of shit dont talk to me

also know that Japanese folk don't care bout sexy but rather cute so might be a cultural thing but always found that part bout Japan weird ,
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Why was this 2 year old thread about loli resurrected lol
Apr 2, 2020 3:14 PM

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either petite body or the more pedophilic reasons which are innocence and naivety (here eat my dick it tastes like chocolate I swear)
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I know Diablo IV is relatively close, but it's still a little early to be practicing your Necromancer skills, don't you think?
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I don't like most of them but it depends on the design I guess. Is megumin considered a loli? I like her design. Also anzu from Hinamatsuri made me want to have a daughter so bad (I think that's the purpose of her character lmao)
I haven't come across any anime sexualizing them tho.
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I don't like most of them but it depends on the design I guess. Is megumin considered a loli? I like her design. Also anzu from Hinamatsuri made me want to have a daughter so bad (I think that's the purpose of her character lmao)
I haven't come across any anime sexualizing them tho.


Many people consider Megumin a loli. Then again some people even consider Rem one too despite her sizable assets. Both camps are wrong.

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Ignoring other posts to avoid toxicity. But I can list the reasons:

1. Exaggeration of petite features. While antis like to refer to them as though they are kids, most lolis are as much children as a cat girl is a cat. They usually have child-like features such as short height or narrow shoulders, high head-body ratio, but have other aspects which are more adult. Sometimes it's only personality like with Monogatari's Shinobu, but for most "lolicons" (I hate that word), that is enough to dissociate them from real children, in spite of the similarities. If you find someone who thinks an anime character that is indistinguishable from a child (Renge from Non Non Biyori) is hot, then yeah you might be dealing with a pedo lol. But I'm extremely non-judgmental so I don't really care what people are in to as long as they don't hurt others. In any case, my point here is that people who like girls who are petite, delicate, feminine, girly etc. and aren't predisposed to pedo-paranoia, are probably going to like lolis.

2. Taboo. Of course, there's no getting away from the fact that through the aforementioned exaggerations, lolis do appear particularly "young" (as far as that word can be applied to a drawing). But, again, to certain people that aren't predisposed to judgmental mental traps and ideologies concerning art's "influence", and just want to enjoy fresh, novel experiences, then the taboo around lolis makes them even more appealing.*

3. Memes. Some people just want to see the world burn memed.

*[EDIT: I want to stress this point. Because, in my experience talking and considering this issue, this is the thing that separates people are bothered by lolis to people who aren't. There are tons of people who don't really think lolis are hot, but think they're interesting characters because it's so strange, unusual, and taboo. Whereas people who complain about lolis, actually sometimes are the same people who secretly fap to them (they're projecting self-hate, this is VERY common). So it isn't so much the attraction that makes the difference, as one attitude to art.]
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epidemia78 said:
BlueMaximilian said:
I don't like most of them but it depends on the design I guess. Is megumin considered a loli? I like her design. Also anzu from Hinamatsuri made me want to have a daughter so bad (I think that's the purpose of her character lmao)
I haven't come across any anime sexualizing them tho.


Many people consider Megumin a loli. Then again some people even consider Rem one too despite her sizable assets. Both camps are wrong.


Yeah I agree.
When I think of a loli I think of characters like Latina from this anime https://myanimelist.net/anime/39324/Uchi_no_Ko_no_Tame_naraba_Ore_wa_Moshikashitara_Maou_mo_Taoseru_kamo_Shirenai

Megumin seems like a normal teenager girl but flat. Rem is definitely not a loli lmao but yes I saw people on Twitter crying about sexualizing her because she's only 17.
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Anything that even remotely resembles a loli I avoid like the plague.
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they are cute and adorable. it's also a fashion sense in Japan. Asian women are generally smaller and age slower than western women, and thus always look young. It makes sense as to why it turned into a fashion.

That being said, I'm not big on sexualizing underaged girls. There's nothing wrong with "flat chests" or "small breasts", and being attracted to them, but being specifically attracted to prepubescent children is wrong, and should be discouraged.
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Some guys get turned on by a small, pure, innocent, flat chested, virgin girl.

Some guys find a small, pure, innocent, flat chested, virgin girl very moe and hence wants to protect them.

It's pedophilia vs angry people here in the anime community. It's quite a mess and I think that's one of the factors of why humanity has fallen.

Appeal : Small, pure, innocent, flat chested, virgin girl ( just a gist ).
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Lolis (with being cute and innocent trait) exist only for pedos Fanservice , change my mind . They never have a major contribution for the story , and if they have , their character could be replaced with more mature woman rather than underage kid. That's why I hate lolis (except Illya and Megumin)
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко-
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Lolis exist only for pedos Fanservice , change my mind . They never have a major contribution for the story , and if they have , their character could be replaced with more mature woman rather than underage kid. That's why I hate lolis except Illya and Megumin


Haha here's a guy who is blissfully unaware of Illya's roots in the original Fate/Stay night pornographic VN
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epidemia78 said:
MarcusRomain said:
Lolis exist only for pedos Fanservice , change my mind . They never have a major contribution for the story , and if they have , their character could be replaced with more mature woman rather than underage kid. That's why I hate lolis except Illya and Megumin


Haha here's a guy who is blissfully unaware of Illya's roots in the original Fate/Stay night pornographic VN


I understand that Illya was also a Fanservice for Pedo , because she is 18 but with Loli body . But well i just can't hate her , I don't know why .
Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко-
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MarcusRomain said:
epidemia78 said:


Haha here's a guy who is blissfully unaware of Illya's roots in the original Fate/Stay night pornographic VN


I understand that Illya was also a Fanservice for Pedo , because she is 18 but with Loli body . But well i just can't hate her , I don't know why .


Maybe because she's cute and you like her personality and backstory? Of course that doesn't apply for anyone else who likes Illya or characters similar to her. Those people are gross!
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