Fabio-s said: You are not Korrvo. Either way I wasn't asking you, so don't expect any more replies from me. Hey now, you asked a question, so I answered it. No need to get so bitey, buddy. Fabio-s said: Do you get aroused by watching dogs having sex? It's a honest question, answer it. If you say yes, good for you, have fun creep. If not, you are a hypocrite. Pick your poison.  I can't believe this is a serious question Well, I'm not into furry stuff or bestiality, so no. Last I checked we were discussing human nature, not the nature of animals other than humans. This is what we call "fetishes" and they tend to vary from person to person. Humans can be collectivist via culture at times, but they're hardly collective as an entire species and what gets different people in the mood to fuck things depends on the individual more often than not. Furthermore, the topic at hand is discussing Ecchi anime and I don't know any Ecchi anime about dogs. It's generally safe to assume that a person tends to be sexually attracted to other people, and that's what anime characters are modeled off of - people. So yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Now now, mein freund, go grab a blanky and a bottle and calm down a little bit. No need for such hostility. |
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Lisbon said: This is what we call "fetishes" and they tend to vary from person to person. Furthermore, the topic at hand is discussing Ecchi anime and I don't know any Ecchi anime about dogs. It's generally safe to assume that a person tends to be sexually attracted to other people, and that's what anime characters are modeled off of - people. So yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Now now, mein freund, go grab a blanky and a bottle and calm down a little bit. No need for such hostility. So now it's not something inherent to humans anymore? I thought you were saying being embarrased by ecchi was like being embarrased of having a dick. What changed? It's a fetiche now to be aroused by dogs and ecchi? This is what happens when you try to be clever and have no idea how to separate "taste", "genes", "instinct" and, ultimately, "culture". It's not so natural to like Ecchi, it's a matter of perhaps a group of factors not common to all humans. Therefore it's not like having a dick, it's not a part of everyone, you are not born with it, it can change or disappear completely or never be there in the first place. So yes, you can be ashamed of watching Ecchi. Disclaimer: I'm using the word "dick" to symbolize a genital, not focusing males in particular obviously, so don't try to act childish, it won't work. There's your final reply. Next time think before saying something stupid and don't answer other people's questions if it's out of your reach. |
Fabio-sJul 5, 2016 1:59 PM
| "Ouvis? Falai vós cortês! Vós, fidalgo, cuidareis que estais na vossa pousada? Dar-vos-ei tanta pancada com um remo que renegueis!" Auto da Barca do Inferno, Gil Vicente Ignorância gera violência, nela nunca procurei abrigo Cultivo a paz pela subsistência da existência deste universo onde resido. Se estás a um passo do abismo pensa bem, Não queiras para os outros o que não queres para ti também. Sala 101 - Dealema |
| Yes, it is. But it doesnt mean we should stop. People drink beer knowing that it isnt good for the body but they're still drinking right? The same thing but we use our genitals instead |
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 Holy shit, this conversation though... Fabio-s said: So now it's not something inherent to humans anymore? No, a desire to fuck things is not inherent to humans No, bestiality is not a common aspect of human sexuality Yes, wanting to fuck other humans is common Yes, anime characters are modeled after humans The only time the equation won't work out is when the person in question is not sexually interested in other humans I still don't understand what dogs fucking has to do with people fucking, but ok Fabio-s said: It's a fetiche now to be aroused by dogs and ecchi? If you read what you were responding to, you'd see that I did not say that being aroused by dogs and being aroused by Ecchi are the same thing Fabio-s said: This is what happens when you try to be clever and have no idea how to separate "taste", "genes", "instinct" and, ultimately, "culture". It's not so natural to like Ecchi, it's a matter of perhaps a group of factors not common to all humans. It isn't unnatural either, far from it Like I've been saying, the characters tend to be designed as humans, which is generally what other humans like to fuck Fabio-s said: it's a matter of perhaps a group of factors not common to all humans. Therefore it's not like having a dick, it's not a part of everyone, you are not born with it,it can change or disappear completely or never be there in the first place. So yes, you can be ashamed of watching Ecchi. I was indeed born with a penis, I am a male and I've been one for all of my life, and that isn't going to be changing any time soon I have also never heard of somebody's penis just up and disappearing but ok Females, who actually aren't born with penises, have vaginas. Which is pretty much designed to be like a sock for a penis to fit into for the act of mating. Females can also be sexual and are much more often than not. Fabio-s said: Next time think before saying something stupid and don't answer other people's questions if it's out of your reach. I wasn't aware that I was the one saying stupid things here |
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| TL;DR But from the first posts, I can tell something : ecchi is NSFW (strictly speaking, no one right in their head would watch ecchi at work with other people around). I personally don't like ecchi. But it was funny in Nanatsu no Taizai or Air Gear. Totally unnecessary in Hataraku Maou-Sama (there wasn't much). Sidonia no Kishi? Meh. Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt?! Hell yeah xD Well, all that is a matter of taste. Ecchi for the sake of it is almost always bad, with rare exceptions (Hey, Mahou Sensou, Captain Earth, yeah you crapnime :P) |
Lisbon said: I wasn't aware that I was the one saying stupid things here I'm glad you said that, now I know you are conscious of your ignorance. Read what I wrote again, ask your teacher some questions about logic and send me a pm when you are ready to have a conversation you can understand. That might happen in a few years, but until then your taste might change, who knows? Then you'll realise you were stupid here, but that's ok. If you still don't know what I'm talking about, there's nothing I can do to help you kid. Feel free to go to school and study, study a lot. |
| "Ouvis? Falai vós cortês! Vós, fidalgo, cuidareis que estais na vossa pousada? Dar-vos-ei tanta pancada com um remo que renegueis!" Auto da Barca do Inferno, Gil Vicente Ignorância gera violência, nela nunca procurei abrigo Cultivo a paz pela subsistência da existência deste universo onde resido. Se estás a um passo do abismo pensa bem, Não queiras para os outros o que não queres para ti também. Sala 101 - Dealema |
Fabio-s said: Lisbon said: I wasn't aware that I was the one saying stupid things here I'm glad you said that, now I know you are conscious of your ignorance. Read what I wrote again, ask your teacher some questions about logic and send me a pm when you are ready to have a conversation you can understand. That might happen in a few years, but until then your taste might change, who knows? Then you'll realise you were stupid here, but that's ok. If you still don't know what I'm talking about, there's nothing I can do to help you kid. Feel free to go to school and study, study a lot. You've said that you weren't going to respond again twice now, yet you're still trying to tell me that I'm stupid even though you're the one who is saying that penises just up and disappear sometimes Fabio pls |
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| Dude says that fapping to ecchi is like fapping to dogs. I don't even know what to say right now. |
AltoRoark said: Dude says that fapping to ecchi is like fapping to dogs. I don't even know what to say right now. The dude has a name. You are a fan of Ecchi, make your peace with it. If you are like Lisbon who still don't understand what I meant, it's your problem. You want to enter the discussion as well? If you want to be a rock head about it, don't bother. Don't be a coward though. That's all. |
| "Ouvis? Falai vós cortês! Vós, fidalgo, cuidareis que estais na vossa pousada? Dar-vos-ei tanta pancada com um remo que renegueis!" Auto da Barca do Inferno, Gil Vicente Ignorância gera violência, nela nunca procurei abrigo Cultivo a paz pela subsistência da existência deste universo onde resido. Se estás a um passo do abismo pensa bem, Não queiras para os outros o que não queres para ti também. Sala 101 - Dealema |
Fabio-s said: AltoRoark said: Dude says that fapping to ecchi is like fapping to dogs. I don't even know what to say right now. The dude has a name. You are a fan of Ecchi, make your peace with it. If you are like Lisbon who still don't understand what I meant, it's your problem. You want to enter the discussion as well? If you want to be a rock head about it, don't bother. Don't be a coward though. That's all. Part of me thinks responding to you is a bad idea because it's just egging you on But goddamn this is really funny Fapping to Ecchi is like fapping to dogs, penises can disappear at random, and all of this is being said with the edgiest and hostile presentation possible I just don't even know man |
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| Dude, watching anime is exactly the same kind of experience as fucking dogs. I mean, they both involve looking at stuff, it's basically the same thing! |
| You shouldn't feel bad for watching something that some prude out there would disagree with. Ecchi is all good who cares about other peoples morality when it come to sexuality on a screen. |
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Ecchi_Hater_9000 said: @Lisbon I don't wanna intrude on your shit-flinging contest, because it's entertaining as fuck. I just wanna point out that he didn't say that penises disappear. I'm pretty sure he meant that the impulse to watch sexual fanservice is what can vanish. That you are not born with it. And that it's not the same in everyone. Could be wrong, though! But please, carry on. This is some juicy stuff. He read what he wanted to read. Funny how he kept mocking me but was the one who couldn't understand basic english. I won't feed the troll anymore, relax. :) I'm glad it was entertaining, I just wasted text on a moron. |
| "Ouvis? Falai vós cortês! Vós, fidalgo, cuidareis que estais na vossa pousada? Dar-vos-ei tanta pancada com um remo que renegueis!" Auto da Barca do Inferno, Gil Vicente Ignorância gera violência, nela nunca procurei abrigo Cultivo a paz pela subsistência da existência deste universo onde resido. Se estás a um passo do abismo pensa bem, Não queiras para os outros o que não queres para ti também. Sala 101 - Dealema |
Fabio-s said: Wowzers ur a pleasant personKorrvo said: That's like being ashamed of having a dick. How, exactly? Do you have the balls to reply with a decent argument or you just like to say random stuff? I just don't see any reason in being ashamed of your sexuality. Much like your dick, what you want to use it for is part of who you are, and you should do you boo-boo. If you want to watch ecchi then you should just watch it. If you wanna do something then just do it. If you feel ashamed then you should ask yourself why you're holding yourself back, and then let yourself freeeee~ The heart wants what the heart wants, and so does your dick. Let them eat cake. |
KorrvoJul 5, 2016 9:31 PM
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| I don't think its wrong or be ashamed for watching it. I truely enjoy watching Shinmai Maou no Testament, High School DxD and Kiss x Sis. High School DxD has a perverted MC Issei Kiss x Sis has 2 perverted sisters, Ako and Riko Shinmai Maou no Testament will show goooood stuff (close to be completely naked) Ashamed of watching Ecchi? Jesus you're childish. |
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| Yes, Ecchi is bad because of people too afraid to watch a real romance or hentai. If you are going to be a pervert, go full pervert or see the full thing. Fanservice is for nerds and weebs. |
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FapudoKun said: Yes, Ecchi is bad because of people too afraid to watch a real romance or hentai. If you are going to be a pervert, go full pervert or see the full thing. Fanservice is for nerds and weebs. It might be unobvious, but most romance anime targeted at males are ecchi. And probably harem too. Most of those non-ecchi non-harem romances are targeted at girls. And pretty had for a man to enjoy. Often it's because the girl is the ordinary one (and doesn't even look good), and the man gets to have a totally unrelatable personality. Omni_slash95 said: I already explained that a few pages ago. You don't have to watch a dozen ecchi anime to know they are generic & bad. I tried to watch Highschool DxD because its the most well received ecchi which is supposed to have a solid story & characters (it didn't). Behold, this is a list of ecchi anime: http://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/9/Ecchi The top positions include No Game No Life, Highschool of the Dead, High School DxD, Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai, Kore wa Zombie Desu ka? and Nanatsu no Taizai. Can you really say that they are all the same? Both the zombie apocalypse of HotD and shounen battle anime Nanatsu no Taisai? If you can - screw you, you're a liar. KoreaWS said: Cute, ecchi shows that aren't about ecchi, but about over-the-top action, comedy and absurd comedy. See what you have to do to make ecchi good? Not focus on it. Exactly. Do you remember that "ecchi" isn't a genre in Japan, just a classification arbitrarily assigned by sites like this one? There are no anime that are 100% ecchi. There can be ecchi comedies, ecchi action, ecchi harems... but never ecchi on its own. Lisbon said: Omni_slash95 said: Also I discuss it because thats what this thread is about. Deal with it @Ecchi lovers I'm not saying that you shouldn't discuss it, go ahead and say whatever you want, s'all good m8 On the other hand, I do say it. People who lack experience with the genre don't have the right to make judgments about it. It's alright if you don't want to watch ecchi. It's not alright if you barge into ecchi discussions with your boots on, while having no idea what ecchi really is. Ryuuzahar said: Just because it's 2016 doesn't mean deviant anime doesn't exist. Rape hentai anime is a deviant anime. Don't tell me I'm lying because it is carrying a idea about departing from usual or accepted standards, especially in social or sexual behavior. Rape hentai is perfectly normal. A lot of people (like 50%), both men and women, enjoy rape fantasies. Fabio-s said: You want to enter the discussion as well? If you want to be a rock head about it, don't bother. Don't be a coward though. That's all. We've been in this discussion for a while. For example, I've been here from the first page. Ryuuzahar said: So what? It doesn't makes you excuse from liking it. You even include GOD. You think GOD wants you to watch pornography? I'm not talking about a deviant god to avoid misunderstanding. Judeo-Christian god is omnipotent and omniscient. Hence, everything that goes on in this world has his approval. Including me watching porn, soldiers and civilians dying in wars, and little girls getting raped by their parents. He is also omnibenevolent, meaning that all those things are good! Makes your head explode, doesn't it? That's because that god doesn't exist. Ronteque said: You wouldn't want to let your parents/children see you watching Ecchi would you? I once put a "nude filter" wallpaper on my computer. Took a while for my parents to notice, proving that there is no point in wallpapers. Omni_slash95 said: @Ronteque GoT is different. Most of the time it fits and its never done in a childish otaku pandering way. GoT is exactly as bad as ecchi anime. It just panders to americans' slutty ways, not japanese ways. merryfistmas said: Lisbon said: This and the "you secretly watch ecchi argument". Who comes up with this shit? Does anyone honestly believe that's true?I sense a hint of jealousy here Could it be that you're just bothered that you can't fap to what you like? It does a good amount of damage, and does a good job as a veiled personal attack. Zelkiiro said: Oh yes. Muh morality. When my favorite anime of all time is a moral-relativistic, nihilistic bloodbath full of hatred and murder. I am just so goddamn concerned about morality, you guys. Yeah, people aren't ashamed of watching something like that, and they ask me if I'm ashamed of watching something as natural as half-naked girls? Omni_slash95 said: AltoRoark said: I saw a couple black people commit crimes, that means all black people are criminals. /logic Really a bad comparison, comparing black people commiting crimes with ecchi... This is a very valid comparison. You are stereotyping just as badly as racists. merryfistmas said: Womyn? wtf? Some feminists don't like that there is "men" in "women". That's why they use "womyn". |
flannanJul 6, 2016 11:56 PM
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| @flannan I think you misunderstand me, I'm talking about anime that are focused on the ecchi & hot waifu's and thats the only thing they have going for them (like Masou Gakuen HxH or Highschool of the Dead or DxD etc.) From what I saw of Nanatsu no Taisai its not like that at all and is actually a solid Shounen. If there is more to an anime than just ecchi then its fine. And Americans slutty ways appeal to me more than childish otaku pandering. Its more mature and actually sexy instead of cringey like most ecchi anime. |
Omni_slash95 said: @flannan I think you misunderstand me, I'm talking about anime that are focused on the ecchi & hot waifu's and thats the only thing they have going for them (like Masou Gakuen HxH or Highschool of the Dead or DxD etc.) From what I saw of Nanatsu no Taisai its not like that at all and is actually a solid Shounen. If there is more to an anime than just ecchi then its fine. Every ecchi anime is more than ecchi. From what I've seen and heard of Highschool DxD - it is a solid shounen battle anime too. With ecchi and harem for people who are too old to look at boys all the time. HotD is a solid zombie apocalypse. I've yet to see Masou Gakuen, but it looks like another battle harem (which means I'm going to watch it and probably enjoy it). "Ecchi" is a content tag, not a genre. What you're talking about probably means "romantic comedy" or "harem" (most romantic comedies are harems in Japan). And you just don't like the genre, it has plenty of fans. Aedrin said: Drop ecchi start with hentai. Both are porn both have no story but those are hentai pluses. Stop pretending. If your mom will see you watching some ecchi it will be the same. Eventually start watching normal anime. We've heard this argument a thousand times, and it still sucks. Hentai is good when you want to fap (although Mamster-P prefers ecchi), but for a person like me, any anime is better when it's full of pretty girls, and they get into erotic situations occasionally. Ryuuzahar said: @flannan says: Judeo-Christian god is omnipotent and omniscient. Hence, everything that goes on in this world has his approval. Including me watching porn, soldiers and civilians dying in wars, and little girls getting raped by their parents. He is also omnibenevolent, meaning that all those things are good! Makes your head explode, doesn't it? That's because that god doesn't exist. Are you sure what you are talking about? You don't even have a faith on God. If you do, you know why God let those happens. People who disobey Him did those things. The Hell exist for what? For the good people who have faith in Him? NO! So don't spread lies please. I am an anti-theist. I don't just not believe in god, I actively believe that religion is a bad thing. Hell exists because judeo-christian god is a sadist, and so are his priests. |
| NO it's a normal human nature for most guy to like sexual stuff like naked girls, sex scene and other dirty stuff like that. it is indeed a bad thing and we need to do our best to not over thought/do it (i mean fap,etc) but it's not a bad thing for you to suddenly having that kind of feeling or thoughts cause it's just a normal nature. althought it's wrong if you keep doing it and eventually you make a crime |
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flannan said: KoreaWS said: Cute, ecchi shows that aren't about ecchi, but about over-the-top action, comedy and absurd comedy. See what you have to do to make ecchi good? Not focus on it. Exactly. Do you remember that "ecchi" isn't a genre in Japan, just a classification arbitrarily assigned by sites like this one? There are no anime that are 100% ecchi. There can be ecchi comedies, ecchi action, ecchi harems... but never ecchi on its own. Unless they focus on ecchi and make the other part lame, which essentially makes it ecchi because the other part is forgettable, except for the ecchifags that grasp on straw to make their beloved shows look "unique and original". Ecchi is a label, is an adjective just like moe is. And the arbitrary clasification of a site is irrelevant. As soon as the intent is to be lewd for any reason, it's already ecchi. Unrelated, but a retard wrote this: "if we didn't have this stupid demonizing mindset against sexualization of women in media, this ecchi hate wouldn't be a thing", implying the reason people hate ecchi is because SJW, and you have to be pretty narrow minded to believe this bullshit. |
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KoreaWS said: flannan said: Exactly. Do you remember that "ecchi" isn't a genre in Japan, just a classification arbitrarily assigned by sites like this one? There are no anime that are 100% ecchi. There can be ecchi comedies, ecchi action, ecchi harems... but never ecchi on its own. Unless they focus on ecchi and make the other part lame, which essentially makes it ecchi because the other part is forgettable, except for the ecchifags that grasp on straw to make their beloved shows look "unique and original". Just because you're too busy ogling Mai's boobs to see the rest of the anime doesn't make the other parts of the show bad. And just because you think the other part is lame, doesn't mean it is. * Flannan looks aside at some person who claimed the only slice-of-life zombie apocalypse anime isn't original and unique. KoreaWS said: Ecchi is a label, is an adjective just like moe is. And the arbitrary clasification of a site is irrelevant. As soon as the intent is to be lewd for any reason, it's already ecchi. How do you judge intent? are you telepathic? Cause I am not. I can only judge the results. But most importantly, one can clearly see the anime was meant to be lewd (as opposed to just adding a lot of fanservice because the authors can) in very few non-hentai anime. Most shows labelled "ecchi" just contain lots of fanservice, and this state is a matter of quantity, not quality. KoreaWS said: Unrelated, but a retard wrote this: "if we didn't have this stupid demonizing mindset against sexualization of women in media, this ecchi hate wouldn't be a thing", implying the reason people hate ecchi is because SJW, and you have to be pretty narrow minded to believe this bullshit. I usually blame religion for that. |
flannan said: KoreaWS said: Unrelated, but a retard wrote this: "if we didn't have this stupid demonizing mindset against sexualization of women in media, this ecchi hate wouldn't be a thing", implying the reason people hate ecchi is because SJW, and you have to be pretty narrow minded to believe this bullshit. I usually blame religion for that. I blame hack writers. It's not necessarily about the nudity itself (Perfect Blue is a goddamn masterpiece and contains some nudity, for example), but the use of nudity as a distraction from the fact that the characters are dogshit and the writing is gonorrhea. If you replaced the base instincts surrounding sex with, I dunno, coat hangers, then you'd see these same Z-grade ecchi shows instead featuring a shitload of sweeping shots of coat hangers serving the same purpose--to desperately try to hide the fact that it's garbage. |
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Zelkiiro said: I blame hack writers. It's not necessarily about the nudity itself (Perfect Blue is a goddamn masterpiece and contains some nudity, for example), but the use of nudity as a distraction from the fact that the characters are dogshit and the writing is gonorrhea. If you replaced the base instincts surrounding sex with, I dunno, coat hangers, then you'd see these same Z-grade ecchi shows instead featuring a shitload of sweeping shots of coat hangers serving the same purpose--to desperately try to hide the fact that it's garbage. Nah, you're just being elitist here, and the writing is fine as it is. |
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daky-kun said: No, it's not. If I should be ashamed for merely watching them, then what about the people who create them, write storyboards, animate them, and voice the characters? They're already ashamed that they're wasting their lives away for less than minimum wage in a job they hate. |
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flannan said: How do you judge intent? are you telepathic? Cause I am not. I can only judge the results. But most importantly, one can clearly see the anime was meant to be lewd (as opposed to just adding a lot of fanservice because the authors can) in very few non-hentai anime. Most shows labelled "ecchi" just contain lots of fanservice, and this state is a matter of quantity, not quality. By watching what the show does and how it does it. You don't need telepathy, don't be absurd. And don't be cynic either, that fanservice is lewd. It's meant to be for the sake of wathever reason the creators intended its use. Unless you're trying to tell me it isn't, in which case, how deep are you into the delusion zone? And no, religion isn't either. But if that demonization allows you to keep yourself happy, go on. |
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Tevens said: Depends on what you mean by crime, in some countries it is already illegal to have lolis on your pc.it's a normal human nature for most guy to like sexual stuff like naked girls, sex scene and other dirty stuff like that. it is indeed a bad thing and we need to do our best to not over thought/do it (i mean fap,etc) but it's not a bad thing for you to suddenly having that kind of feeling or thoughts cause it's just a normal nature. althought it's wrong if you keep doing it and eventually you make a crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors |
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zal said: Tevens said: Depends on what you mean by crime, in some countries it is already illegal to have lolis on your pc.it's a normal human nature for most guy to like sexual stuff like naked girls, sex scene and other dirty stuff like that. it is indeed a bad thing and we need to do our best to not over thought/do it (i mean fap,etc) but it's not a bad thing for you to suddenly having that kind of feeling or thoughts cause it's just a normal nature. althought it's wrong if you keep doing it and eventually you make a crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors well, that is not making any sense to me tho. so just drawing a picture of loli would be a crime ? where is the freedom of imagining and drawing then. what a strict law that country has. this world sure is getting more fucked up. rather than making that bullshit into a crime why not try to do something about those porn site all over the internet like pornhub, etc..... >choose to banned porn fiction rather than real porn. da fuck ? and moreover, it's not even fully a hardcore porn. just a picture of a little girl.... i don't even...... |
YizelTroJul 7, 2016 9:53 AM
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KoreaWS said: flannan said: How do you judge intent? are you telepathic? Cause I am not. I can only judge the results. But most importantly, one can clearly see the anime was meant to be lewd (as opposed to just adding a lot of fanservice because the authors can) in very few non-hentai anime. Most shows labelled "ecchi" just contain lots of fanservice, and this state is a matter of quantity, not quality. By watching what the show does and how it does it. You don't need telepathy, don't be absurd. And don't be cynic either, that fanservice is lewd. It's meant to be for the sake of wathever reason the creators intended its use. Unless you're trying to tell me it isn't, in which case, how deep are you into the delusion zone? And no, religion isn't either. But if that demonization allows you to keep yourself happy, go on. Sorry, it's getting late here, and I have no idea what are you trying to tell. Maybe you're using too much non-english grammar. Anyway, a lot of anime has fanservice. The sexual kind. Should we label them all "ecchi"? If yes, then it's a meaningless label, and I am quite proud of the fact that I watch all the great anime that have sexual fanservice. If no, how do we draw the line? |
flannan said: KoreaWS said: By watching what the show does and how it does it. You don't need telepathy, don't be absurd. And don't be cynic either, that fanservice is lewd. It's meant to be for the sake of wathever reason the creators intended its use. Unless you're trying to tell me it isn't, in which case, how deep are you into the delusion zone? And no, religion isn't either. But if that demonization allows you to keep yourself happy, go on. Sorry, it's getting late here, and I have no idea what are you trying to tell. Maybe you're using too much non-english grammar. Anyway, a lot of anime has fanservice. The sexual kind. Should we label them all "ecchi"? If yes, then it's a meaningless label, and I am quite proud of the fact that I watch all the great anime that have sexual fanservice. If no, how do we draw the line? "Should we label..." the arbitrary clasification of a site is irrelevant. Ecchi=Lewd. And don't be cynic either, that fanservice is lewd. It's meant to be for the sake of wathever reason the creators intended its use, like drawing virgins into buying merchandise. How you notice it: By watching what the show does and how it does it. And keep your pride to yourself, thank you. Tevens said: why not try to do something about those porn site all over the internet like pornhub, etc..... Because those sites usually don't have things that portray pedophilia? My guess though, pretty sure some obscure video might exist, but is the minority. |
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KoreaWS said: flannan said: Sorry, it's getting late here, and I have no idea what are you trying to tell. Maybe you're using too much non-english grammar. Anyway, a lot of anime has fanservice. The sexual kind. Should we label them all "ecchi"? If yes, then it's a meaningless label, and I am quite proud of the fact that I watch all the great anime that have sexual fanservice. If no, how do we draw the line? "Should we label..." the arbitrary clasification of a site is irrelevant. Ecchi=Lewd. And don't be cynic either, that fanservice is lewd. It's meant to be for the sake of wathever reason the creators intended its use, like drawing virgins into buying merchandise. How you notice it: By watching what the show does and how it does it. And keep your pride to yourself, thank you. Tevens said: why not try to do something about those porn site all over the internet like pornhub, etc..... Because those sites usually don't have things that portray pedophilia? My guess though, pretty sure some obscure video might exist, but is the minority. but even tho it only has a little bit, compare to just a pics of a little girl......i mean not a nude little girls, just a normal pics of a anime little girls, yet they made it illegal just to have an anime little girls pics on your pc (not nude) ?! i don't even.... and it's not gonna raise more pedo with watching/seeing little girls in anime. it's just gonna raise lolicon more rather than pedo. and i've never heard people assault little girls and anime or animated anime girls as the reason why he assault little girls... |
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Tevens said: KoreaWS said: "Should we label..." the arbitrary clasification of a site is irrelevant. Ecchi=Lewd. And don't be cynic either, that fanservice is lewd. It's meant to be for the sake of wathever reason the creators intended its use, like drawing virgins into buying merchandise. How you notice it: By watching what the show does and how it does it. And keep your pride to yourself, thank you. Because those sites usually don't have things that portray pedophilia? My guess though, pretty sure some obscure video might exist, but is the minority. but even tho it only has a little bit, compare to just a pics of a little girl......i mean not a nude little girls, just a normal pics of a anime little girls, yet they made it illegal just to have an anime little girls pics on your pc (not nude) ?! i don't even.... and it's not gonna raise more pedo with watching/seeing little girls in anime. it's just gonna raise lolicon more rather than pedo. and i've never heard people assault little girls and anime or animated anime girls as the reason why he assault little girls... Man, why bring innocent girls to our discussion about pedophilia: sexualization of minors? Unless I skipped one phrase, stricter countries such as australia punish the sexual depiction, not the simple depiction. So the unsexualized lolis are safe. And while I agree loli porn doesn't raise pedophilics, it still a depiction of pedophilia. And when anime is partially known for this kind of stuff, I feel it's gonna take a long time before its taken seriously. But don't mind me, I'm the kind of fan that wants to share anime with everyone but can't because cringeworthy content. |
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Fabio-s said: AltoRoark said: Dude says that fapping to ecchi is like fapping to dogs. I don't even know what to say right now. The dude has a name. You are a fan of Ecchi, make your peace with it. If you are like Lisbon who still don't understand what I meant, it's your problem. You want to enter the discussion as well? If you want to be a rock head about it, don't bother. Don't be a coward though. That's all. I've taken ony an inch into here and I'm already being attacked. I've touched a nerve, it seems. But moving on, let's say I'm turned on by ecchi and not by dogs having sex. In what way is this hypocritical? |
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zal said: Tevens said: Depends on what you mean by crime, in some countries it is already illegal to have lolis on your pc.it's a normal human nature for most guy to like sexual stuff like naked girls, sex scene and other dirty stuff like that. it is indeed a bad thing and we need to do our best to not over thought/do it (i mean fap,etc) but it's not a bad thing for you to suddenly having that kind of feeling or thoughts cause it's just a normal nature. althought it's wrong if you keep doing it and eventually you make a crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors Sacré bleu!!!!!!!!! Now my lolicon tendencies need to stay under wraps. |
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KoreaWS said: And when anime is partially known for this kind of stuff, I feel it's gonna take a long time before its taken seriously. It does not matter what's inside anime, nobody is going to take anime and its fans seriously enough until we have enough influence to make it a mandatory school subject in one of the USA states. That's how the world works. There are several other options, which are even sillier, of course. Like terrorism - "anime terrorists" sounds stupid enough to be an anime plot. |
AltoRoark said: I've taken ony an inch into here and I'm already being attacked. I've touched a nerve, it seems. But moving on, let's say I'm turned on by ecchi and not by dogs having sex. In what way is this hypocritical? I know it will be pointless to explain, but now that things got a little colder, maybe people won't be starting ignoring what happened and actually READ what I said and linking the context correctly. A dude named @Lisbon said this: "Because sexuality is a part of human nature. People generally like to fuck things, or think about fucking things, or things that build up a desire to fuck things, etc. If you're going to act like you're totally averted to sexual situations then you may as well be ashamed of having a dick, since that's pretty much mostly a tool for the wonderful act of coitus and other things of the sexual variety. And peeing, of course." In response to me asking why another guy thought enjoying ecchi was as natural as having a dick. I then sarcastically said something that should come out to you as: "If liking Ecchi is like having a dick and humans generally like to fuck things, or think about fucking things, or things that build up a desire to fuck things, then you must be aroused by dogs having sex". Then the guy (Lisbon) forgot what I said and started acting defensively. What I said ended up being warped by you guys, because I concluded that enjoying or not Ecchi was a matter of taste, not something inherent to you since you were born (I don't know, like, HAVING A DICK). If only people read what came previously instead of being lazy, MAYBE, I wouldn't have to explain everything. This is all I have to say, I hope finally you understand. |
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flannan said: KoreaWS said: And when anime is partially known for this kind of stuff, I feel it's gonna take a long time before its taken seriously. It does not matter what's inside anime, nobody is going to take anime and its fans seriously enough until we have enough influence to make it a mandatory school subject in one of the USA states. That's how the world works. No, that's how you force people into liking something, which is always amongst the worst solutions. Do you like elitist forcing you to watch and not watch certain kind of show? Do you really propose to do a similar thing with non-anime fans? For it to be taken seriously, both fans and predominant content have to show themselves seriously. It's a matter of appearance, and I know it's shallow to judge things for its cover, but that's how the world works. After that they can see what REALLY anime is all about, but since the first impression is already positive, they won't share the prejudice around. There are several other options, which are even sillier, of course. Like terrorism - "anime terrorists" sounds stupid enough to be an anime plot. lol I'd see that for fun. Reminds me of Outbreak Company. |
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KoreaWS said: No, that's how you force people into liking something, which is always amongst the worst solutions. Do you like elitist forcing you to watch and not watch certain kind of show? Do you really propose to do a similar thing with non-anime fans? I mean, honestly, I'm all for indoctrinating youth in favor of joining the glorious harem/ecchi master race I think this could solve all of the world's problems even |
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Lisbon said: KoreaWS said: No, that's how you force people into liking something, which is always amongst the worst solutions. Do you like elitist forcing you to watch and not watch certain kind of show? Do you really propose to do a similar thing with non-anime fans? I mean, honestly, I'm all for indoctrinating youth in favor of joining the glorious harem/ecchi master race I think this could solve all of the world's problems even No. I don't want to wake up one day having the police breaking up the door of my house, breaking my theoretical collection of figurines and harem/ecchi BD-discs, confiscating my material, tearing my danmakuras, blowing up my pc and forcing me into going into the military, enslaving myself into years of cadet training to go fight for the countless wars that there will be because people can't get into a concensus about who's the best girl, and because my waifu isn't in line with the majority. It's like 1984, only with best girl police and endless literal waifu wars, while nips become the next Brittania. lol waifu wars will always make me smile tbh. Is that thing I like about this community. |
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