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Apr 10, 2020 7:38 AM
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Might just be me but I think it's the seme / uke dynamic or the lack of realisticness in some BL manga.

Like for example - take Love Stage or Junjou Romantica - some of the characters are only with men because the story dictates it, they're not "gay" as such.

In regard to Yuri, it's the whole double standard of how women can hold hands, share clothes, beds etc and just be "friends". So it's not seen as "strange".
Apr 10, 2020 8:09 AM

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Sadly many men suffer from homophobia.

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I have noting against Yaoi, but it doesn't give me anything to watch when guys kiss .Same with straight romance it dont do anything for me at all ,Imo its kind of boring


But when two girls kiss! or engage in any kind of romance! Omfg that rock my world like noting else!!!,,,YEEEEEEEEES!!!! Those soft perfect formed females pressing against each other soft on soft cut on cute!! It's so aesthetically beautiful noting else matter and it make me melt to a stupid grinning happy man pile!! And I fucking love it .It gives me the extra I dont get from any other type of Anime or Manga


But hey this is just my personal taste i dont think anyone is lesser if they dont share my taste. I respect that. But for me Yuri gives me something special that noting else can give me. its pure magic that makes my heart tick and I love it!!!














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Apr 10, 2020 10:03 AM

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Whoa, a 5-year-old thread!

Back to the topic.

Although I'm quite positive that most anime watchers are indeed males, I think the hate has more to do with how many bad yaoi animes out there compared to bad yuri animes?

I mean, homophobia is probably an obvious answer too, but non-homophobics who did watch yaoi animes ended up hating them because most of the shows are... plain bad. And this comes from a fujoshi.
Apr 10, 2020 10:10 AM
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Yaoi is written for fujoshi while yuri is written for both male and female audiences.
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Yuri-Crusader said:
I have noting against Yaoi, but it doesn't give me anything to watch when guys kiss .Same with straight romance it dont do anything for me at all ,Imo its kind of boring


But when two girls kiss! or engage in any kind of romance! Omfg that rock my world like noting else!!!,,,YEEEEEEEEES!!!! Those soft perfect formed females pressing against each other soft on soft cut on cute!! It's so aesthetically beautiful noting else matter and it make me melt to a stupid grinning happy man pile!! And I fucking love it .It gives me the extra I dont get from any other type of Anime or Manga


But hey this is just my personal taste i dont think anyone is lesser if they dont share my taste. I respect that. But for me Yuri gives me something special that noting else can give me. its pure magic that makes my heart tick and I love it!!!
















There are way too many yuri or shoujo ai anime watching two girls kiss does nothing for me I tend to avoid it like the plague. When I see those kind of anime I put them in the will not touch ever pile. I really do like BL I tend to like manga better than anime of BL there are only a few good BL anime including an upcoming one I am looking forward to since I loved the novel it is based on. I read a lot of Chinese BL novels these are the best kinds because they are usually slow burn so romances develop at a slow pace they are more focused on the plot of the novel than anything else. Although I do read LGBT YA novels with f/f in them I like them just as much as any other romance in what I read.
Apr 10, 2020 10:47 AM

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For the same reason that the lesbian tag is one of the most popular on pornsites among men.

Two girls playing with each other is hot.

Two guys playing with their dicks isn't.

Simple as that.
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Apr 10, 2020 11:15 AM

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Yuri is not particularly popular either, but it's much less common. Even if every now and then one is made, it's played for laughs.

And if we base it on MAL tags, yuri is almost exclusively hentai while yaoi is almost never (MAL is generally much more strict with male targeted fan service) so it's much more in the forefront.
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Apr 10, 2020 11:32 AM

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Straight men don't find two men taking turns to get drilled alluring? It's shocking I know.
Apr 10, 2020 11:43 AM

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Roevhaal said:
Yaoi is written for fujoshi while yuri is written for both male and female audiences.
Aren't fujoshis female audiences?
Apr 10, 2020 11:47 AM

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Depends on gender imo.

As a man I dig yuri but not yaoi.

Women most likely dig yaoi more and dislike yuri.

Some like both. Although I believe the fact that most yaoi is really just plain bad doesn't really help that camp lol.
Apr 10, 2020 12:03 PM

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probally because most men find male homossexuality fetichizing crazy ass females (fujoshis) pretty disgusting.
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Apr 10, 2020 12:18 PM
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There is a simple, undeniable truth: two girls together is way hotter than two boys together. Girls are just better at sex. They last longer, they have great curves, they have cute moans, and if they want a d*ck, they can just use a sex toy.
The only reason girls want men is because we're required for breeding. There would be much more lesbians if girls could get children without boys, lol.

As for homosexuality, I have nothing against it of course, but when it comes to bed, it's just not that appealing for most people. No curves, the action doesn't last long,...

Even straight people fantasize about lesbian sex, but gay sex? It's just not that attractive (again, I'm talking from a general point of view). That's why yuri is more popular than yaoi, and that's also why lesbian is more popular than gay.
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Because so many are straight, shocking I know
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Because men are the most of anime fanbase and men like yuri/lesbians. Also yuri is fucking beautiful.
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It's not a matter of homophobia or lesbianism being more accepted. It comes down to a huge aesthetic difference.

Generally, Yuri/ Shoujo-ai anime focus more on cutesy, fun relationships.
Whereas a lot of yaoi/ shounen-ai anime involve sexual assault. Like, bizarrely so.
And a lot of people who don't have issues with gay men still take issue with shite like Junjou Romantica and its "Rape=love" main "romance."
Yes, there are exceptions. But if you're someone interested in watching yaoi/ shounen ai and you watch five randomly and four of them have sexual assault, you probably won't watch more.
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Because 90% of homophobes only think about about gay man, also plasible deniability
heh.
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It's pretty much the obvious, I'm just not interested in yaoi period. It's not that I dislike yaoi, I'm just not interested in it.
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There is a simple, undeniable truth: two girls together is way hotter than two boys together. Girls are just better at sex. They last longer, they have great curves, they have cute moans, and if they want a d*ck, they can just use a sex toy.
The only reason girls want men is because we're required for breeding. There would be much more lesbians if girls could get children without boys, lol.

As for homosexuality, I have nothing against it of course, but when it comes to bed, it's just not that appealing for most people. No curves, the action doesn't last long,...

Even straight people fantasize about lesbian sex, but gay sex? It's just not that attractive (again, I'm talking from a general point of view). That's why yuri is more popular than yaoi, and that's also why lesbian is more popular than gay.


I get your way of thinking and I don't deny that not most straight people don't find gay sex super attractive. However there are a lot of heteronormative phrases used to describe so I think they should be updated from "general point of view" to "straight people (majority of population) point of view", especially since anime viewers demographics are skewed like 50-75% towards straight men and doesn't reflect literally the other 25-50% of the population.

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Edit: Can't believe someone bumped my 5 year old thread. Tbf this thread always gets a few new comments every year or so though
Apr 10, 2020 11:28 PM

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>majority of anime fandom is male
>majority of male adhore yuri while dislike yaoi
>majority of female didn't mind yuri while adhore yaoi

geh, i wonder why.
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Apr 10, 2020 11:30 PM

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Maybe cause I'm a dude but yaoi is just cringy. And maybe cause the majority of anime fans are male but that is just my speculation and I guess they find two of the opposite genders more attractive
Apr 10, 2020 11:33 PM

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Because I don't see anime fans bein' like "Me and Flex lookin' in the index for buff neck ninjas just for some hot buttsex."

Apr 10, 2020 11:48 PM

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Yuri was a cool villain from the video game series Command and Conquer
Apr 11, 2020 12:04 AM

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A lot of yaoi fangirls are...how should I say that....crazy? annoying? Just super weird? I don't mind yaoi or yuri but a lot of people in the yaoi/ fandom generally tend to overdo it... so I can see how a majority of people dislike the genre just based on the fans.

One thing which comes to mind which has a strong base of that is (a non animated show, and has multiple remakes of it in different coutnries but pretty much the same characters/story)

"Skam" and all the crazy fangirls shipping evak and every other MALE version of them in the other remakes (and when i say shipping i mean PUTTING IT ON A PEDESTAL AND NO ONE SHOULD POINT OUT THEIR OBVIOUS FLAWS OR THEY'RE HOMOPHOBIC)

BUT as soon as there was a female version of it in a remake they all went to hate on it and didn't include it cause it didn't "count"
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I like yaoi but kind of not like yuri.

Usually girls like yaoi and boys yuri but it depends. Or maybe a relationship between 2 boys/men more disgusting than 2 girls/women who knows. It is just anime and manga and let s enjoy. If you don't like a genre don't watch I would say.
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What kind of dumb-ass question is this? Most men are attracted to girl on girl, aka lesbian, but not man on man. Some women like man on man, it's not that hard.
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yaoi is gae filth while yuri is the apex of all that is pure
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Apr 11, 2020 12:41 AM
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Its because yoai is just purely disjusting
Apr 13, 2020 5:07 PM

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What kind of dumb-ass question is this? Most men are attracted to girl on girl, aka lesbian, but not man on man. Some women like man on man, it's not that hard.


I mean yeah but your statement alone literally doesn't prove anything. What does it mean that most men like to watch lesbians? Are you implying that the majority of anime watchers are men? Because you didn't say ANYTHING about that at all.

Also have you asked all men?????? All 3.5 billion of them??????? Come back to me when you do and maybe I'll listen to your opinion.
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ixaa said:
GakutoDeathGlare said:
What kind of dumb-ass question is this? Most men are attracted to girl on girl, aka lesbian, but not man on man. Some women like man on man, it's not that hard.


I mean yeah but your statement alone literally doesn't prove anything. What does it mean that most men like to watch lesbians? Are you implying that the majority of anime watchers are men? Because you didn't say ANYTHING about that at all.

Also have you asked all men?????? All 3.5 billion of them??????? Come back to me when you do and maybe I'll listen to your opinion.
I shouldn't have to insult the readers intelligence like that lmao, but I guess some people just can't interpret things properly or just don't want to. What I'm saying, it's not that difficult.

Most men are attracted to women, which includes women on women. Yes, majority of anime watchers are men. Not sure why I'd have to ask all 3.5 billion, a much smaller sample size would suffice. And no, I'm not going to do it. I don't give two shits if you don't want to listen to my opinion or not, wtf...

This shouldn't be confusing, regardless if you're female or not. Stop trying to delude yourself lol
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I guess I'm weird because I dislike both Yaoi and Yuri lmao. I can only watch straight romance.
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because most of anime fans are male. it's obvious duh.


I wouldn't be so quick to assume that.

Do you go to conventions?


we guys just don't go convention thats all
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homophobia does play a role in it but for the most parts girl-girl is more appealing
i've done my research (only in my school however) and it seems like the majority of anime fans, males females, accept yuri more than yaoi
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I don't like both of them but I respect Yuri shippers, you won't see that much Yuri posts on social media unless you go and search for it but in case of Yaoi, the crazy fujoshis spam it everywhere so much that even if you don't search for it, you will see it all the time, you can't enjoy any fandoms, can't join any anime groups, you wish to talk about the plot, character development and other things happening in the anime but all you get is Yaoi Fanarts forced down your throat, They force romance in every anime, sexualize everything, There is difference between shipping and fetishizing and Yaoi fangirls are way too obsessed with gay couples and it's so hard to ignore it because they are everywhere, on all social media platforms, I am tried of blocking too, I mean there is a limit to everything and these people definitely don't know any limits, So yeah I don't dislike Yuri lovers at all but I definitely dislike fujoshis
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I don't like both of them but I respect Yuri shippers, you won't see that much Yuri posts on social media unless you go and search for it but in case of Yaoi, the crazy fujoshis spam it everywhere so much that even if you don't search for it, you will see it all the time, you can't enjoy any fandoms, can't join any anime groups, you wish to talk about the plot, character development and other things happening in the anime but all you get is Yaoi Fanarts forced down your throat, They force romance in every anime, sexualize everything, There is difference between shipping and fetishizing and Yaoi fangirls are way too obsessed with gay couples and it's so hard to ignore it because they are everywhere, on all social media platforms, I am tried of blocking too, I mean there is a limit to everything and these people definitely don't know any limits, So yeah I don't dislike Yuri lovers at all but I definitely dislike fujoshis


When will you people stop lying for pity points ffs

Believe it or not, a lot of anime circles especially the niche ones stick with their own thing. If you see those stuff being "shoved on you" then either you're not following the "right" people (to your standards I mean) or you were intentionally looking for those content in the first place ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's way more believable to say shounen fans spam their favorite anime and manga everywhere than these very niche audiences lmao.
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Yuri-Crusader said:
I have noting against Yaoi, but it doesn't give me anything to watch when guys kiss .Same with straight romance it dont do anything for me at all ,Imo its kind of boring

But when two girls kiss! or engage in any kind of romance! Omfg that rock my world like noting else!!!,,,YEEEEEEEEES!!!! Those soft perfect formed females pressing against each other soft on soft cut on cute!! It's so aesthetically beautiful noting else matter and it make me melt to a stupid grinning happy man pile!! And I fucking love it .It gives me the extra I dont get from any other type of Anime or Manga

But hey this is just my personal taste i dont think anyone is lesser if they dont share my taste. I respect that. But for me Yuri gives me something special that noting else can give me. its pure magic that makes my heart tick and I love it!!!




There are way too many yuri or shoujo ai anime watching two girls kiss does nothing for me I tend to avoid it like the plague. When I see those kind of anime I put them in the will not touch ever pile. I really do like BL I tend to like manga better than anime of BL there are only a few good BL anime including an upcoming one I am looking forward to since I loved the novel it is based on. I read a lot of Chinese BL novels these are the best kinds because they are usually slow burn so romances develop at a slow pace they are more focused on the plot of the novel than anything else. Although I do read LGBT YA novels with f/f in them I like them just as much as any other romance in what I read.

That's unfortunately true. Even for me, most kissing scenes between girls do nothing for me.
Many yuri / lesbian couples got a quite shallow relationship with another. They are there for looking cute or sexy together and are just "these girls like each other a lot and are saccharinely sweet to each other" for the audience.

Some sol romances are pretty good, yes, but most yuris were quite fordable.
I miss more Korras and Asamis, lesbian couples like them, who got a real bond with depth.
The closest that comes to them are to me Utena x Anthy and Homura x Madoka, although these are almost kids, so... shippable yes, bit not the same way like older characters. 😅 Oh and Maria x Saki, but that's more complicated. Aoi Hana, Bloom Into You and Sasameki Koto are very good tho again sols.

Oh and I'd like to see more bisexual women, not the typical "pure yuri with holy virgins" that don't know that guys even exist, because they go to an all girls school since they could think lol
I guess you know what type of yuri I'm speaking about and they can be cute sometimes, but I get bored of them very fast too.
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As a lesbian, I’m not interested in watching romance with two guys lol. (I don’t particularly dislike it or anything, just don’t have any interest).

However, I haven’t really watched/read a lot of yuri either as I feel like a lot of it is overly fetishised, much like how lesbian porn isn’t made for lesbians.
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It's just the demographic.
I dunno if most guys would wanna read BL or look at panels of guys banging. Same concept applies to girls.
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Most yaoi are made by women for women, which means a lot of it is made to cater to fetishes and fantasies their audience — and author — might have. This is especially clear when BL authors like Shimura Takako fills their work with over the top creepiness and characters who are used only for venting out fetishes, yet she also wrote Aoi Hana which is a rather mild and well-developed yuri manga with complex characters and relationships, not at all similar to her BL work.

Sure, there's shit like Citrus around, but even that is at least written by a woman instead of a horny guy with a lesbian fetish. You can't say the same about yaoi. For every Umibe no Étranger there's a BL manga full to the brim with questionable consent.
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Most yaoi are made by women for women, which means a lot of it is made to cater to fetishes and fantasies their audience — and author — might have. This is especially clear when BL authors like Shimura Takako fills their work with over the top creepiness and characters who are used only for venting out fetishes, yet she also wrote Aoi Hana which is a rather mild and well-developed yuri manga with complex characters and relationships, not at all similar to her BL work.

Sure, there's shit like Citrus around, but even that is at least written by a woman instead of a horny guy with a lesbian fetish. You can't say the same about yaoi. For every Umibe no Étranger there's a BL manga full to the brim with questionable consent.

Really? That quite disappoints me now, because I know Wandering Son and Aoi Hana from her, which is both amazing. I either didn't read or can't remember her BLs but hearing that disappoints me tbh.

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>majority of anime fandom is male
>majority of male adhore yuri while dislike yaoi
>majority of female didn't mind yuri while adhore yaoi

geh, i wonder why.

And again: the majority of anime fans isn't male. I think they were just more visible until they last years or decade.
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Maneki-Mew said:
Kuma said:
>majority of anime fandom is male
>majority of male adhore yuri while dislike yaoi
>majority of female didn't mind yuri while adhore yaoi

geh, i wonder why.

And again: the majority of anime fans isn't male. I think they were just more visible until they last years or decade.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1095810/anime-movie-opinions-us-by-gender/

while it is true that male demographic isn't dominate the market anymore. but you still can see the preference in the industry. how many shoujo series made? doesn't mean anime is not targetted toward female at all, that would be wrong. does female market not attracted japanese industry at all? not really. Live Action and Webtoon has huge female fanbase. while manga is more balanced in that regard.
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I like neither.
So add a +1 to that group.

In fact, some people are just so damn crazy about Yuri. I've said it before, but you say "I don't like yuri" or anything related on most anime reddits or anything with voting, and you'll be downvoted to hell.

Yet, when I actually want a dude on dude relationship, it doesn't happen. (Seriously, the Sieg and Astolfo ship was just better)
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Just to list a couple of biases.
Likes: A good story, characters, writing, romance, a good plot twist or something that breaks expectations (In a good way), 'backstory' and justice.
Dislikes: Bad romance, too much fanservice, the harem genre, yuri, yaoi, and bad writing.

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it's literally just because the majority of certain anime communities (like MAL) are males. it's really not that deep lol


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Kuma said:
Maneki-Mew said:

And again: the majority of anime fans isn't male. I think they were just more visible until they last years or decade.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1095810/anime-movie-opinions-us-by-gender/

while it is true that male demographic isn't dominate the market anymore. but you still can see the preference in the industry. how many shoujo series made? doesn't mean anime is not targetted toward female at all, that would be wrong. does female market not attracted japanese industry at all? not really. Live Action and Webtoon has huge female fanbase. while manga is more balanced in that regard.

I guess, it's because way more women seem to be into shounen and seinen than men seem to be into shoujo or josei. So we get little shoujo or josei stuff in comparison.
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I do detest both equally, however, one more than the other for the amount of toxic mentalities it produces in its obsessive "fans".
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I like neither.
So add a +1 to that group.

In fact, some people are just so damn crazy about Yuri. I've said it before, but you say "I don't like yuri" or anything related on most anime reddits or anything with voting, and you'll be downvoted to hell.

Yet, when I actually want a dude on dude relationship, it doesn't happen. (Seriously, the Sieg and Astolfo ship was just better)

And this is about what I mean, thank you for the example.
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I don't believe the majority fan theory plays a part.
In my experience I come across male and female fans in equal proportion.
I personally don't like neither yaoi nor yuri, but I find it amusing when girl 1 fondles girl 2's tiddies and girl 2 gets embarrassed. that's about it though.
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yaoi often tends to be rapey and stereotypical while yuri is usually more pure so that may be a reason for some people
i like both equally but i read shounen ai manga a bit more often than shoujo ai
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Maneki-Mew said:
Kuma said:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1095810/anime-movie-opinions-us-by-gender/

while it is true that male demographic isn't dominate the market anymore. but you still can see the preference in the industry. how many shoujo series made? doesn't mean anime is not targetted toward female at all, that would be wrong. does female market not attracted japanese industry at all? not really. Live Action and Webtoon has huge female fanbase. while manga is more balanced in that regard.

I guess, it's because way more women seem to be into shounen and seinen than men seem to be into shoujo or josei. So we get little shoujo or josei stuff in comparison.


yes, that's one of the reason too. that's my point, lOl.
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As a lesbian, I’m not interested in watching romance with two guys lol. (I don’t particularly dislike it or anything, just don’t have any interest).

However, I haven’t really watched/read a lot of yuri either as I feel like a lot of it is overly fetishised, much like how lesbian porn isn’t made for lesbians.



As a Yuri lover I agree and can understand why lesbians dont like Yuri .They are often very fetishised and Its clearly targeted towards males like me and with my taste .And there are few realistic Yuri's out-here. And because they are like that is probably one of the reasons why they are more popular then Yaoi



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Horny owners of penis fetishize women and femininity while justifying their homophobia with statements such as "yuri is the purest form of love" etc. not having enough self awareness that their lesbian fetish is the very extreme form of that heterosexuality they so much despise.


also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
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