Vinland Saga is the embodiment of anachronism and the self-fulfilment of the mocked utterance "If you kill your enemies, they win."
Imagine yourself being sold into slavery in 11th-century Scandinavia after brute-forcing your way to the Viking conquest of England’s conclusion as a mercenary. At this point you’re well acquainted with the brutish nature of the Dark Ages and the horrors of mankind--ceaseless wars and raids, slavery, the razing of entire villages, violent wars of succession--and in particular the ruthless 'might makes right' warrior culture of the Vikings which one of your loved ones died at the hands of. Now imagine one day in that traumatic
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life of yours you start preaching 21st-century first-world pacifist ideals as a hollowed-out, depressed slave because of a dream. Then give yourself a pat on the back if you think this is an inherently juvenile and asinine concept that first off could never see ideation in such a context, would never see the light of day even if you could conceptualize it, and would never work even if it did see the light of day; because unlike Vinland Saga, you have at least an iota of a grasp on reality. Vinland Saga Season 2 is not only ugly on the outside as an audiovisual experience but also on the inside as a grossly delusional historical fiction that insists upon itself with pretentious moral righteousness, wanting to have its cake and eat it with its faux philosophising whilst attempting to work within the confines of reality. It is a shounen in seinen’s clothing.
What started out as a half-decent historical fiction that read almost like a gritty epic, with clear direction and dynamic characters to match, degenerates into aimless, feeble meandering with sluggish pacing and lethargic characters that reads more like a rant from the author than an actual story in its whiplash of a shift into a slice-of-life. The seeds of failure, however, were already sown from the very beginning of the series when Thorfinn's father spoke the essence of his philosophy on his deathbed "A true warrior has no need for a sword"--like a true 17th century Bushido-ideal samurai based in 11th century Scandinavia who uses "no sword" in the literal sense of the words as opposed to metaphorically. Whilst admirable that he cast aside his penchant for violence and surrendered a prestigious life of fierce warrior-ship in order to settle down with his wife and children and ensure them a peaceful life, the story would immortalise him as an aspirational wise man for orphaning a son and widowing a wife into misery because he surrendered to a death he could've easily avoided by sacrificing his family and himself for his moral code of pacifism. What if Askeladd--who’d already shown not to be trusted--didn’t uphold his promise, or if Bjorn massacred the Icelandic village anyway? Vinland Saga expects you to take Thor’s unconvincing dichotomy in faith as it begins using this fundamentally flawed premise as the foundation of the Slave arc and Thorfinn’s character piece, and the self-defeating polarity of venerating an ideology that just lead to a family’s demise is foreshadowing for the story's downwards spiral from this season onwards. Thorfinn, seeing how well pacifism turned out for his father and reaping its fruits first-hand, suddenly becomes one himself this season.
Whilst anachronism is Vinland Saga’s biggest problem--how it’s flawed on a fundamental level because its thematic execution conflicts with its own established world due to the author projecting his modern-day moral standards onto a story about 11th century Vikings--its inoperative veer into a medieval farming simulator means the themes it wants to convey here aren’t even made palatable on an external, structural level. The Slave arc lacks a defined act structure and feels like a tedious detour from the prologue, with no narrative drive and momentum. There are long stretches of uneventful moments mostly accompanied by Thorfinn and Einar babbling in a struggle to come to grasp the basic concept of ‘self-preservation’ as the directing in all its unsophisticated artistry (or lack thereof) displays severed heads in order to depict the mental state of a man. All the philosophical ramblings with obvious implications mean pacing thrice as slow as the previous arc isn’t compelling when it fails to be the psychological character-driven introspective it pretends to be. What other stories resolve in 3 episodes, Vinland Saga takes 24 to do without a convincing conclusion. There is no reason for over a dozen episodes to be dedicated to the (bizarrely portrayed) mundane slice-of-life of slaves on a farm, it’s the most astroturfed way imaginable to advance Thorfinn’s already deficient pacifist epiphany; especially when such an overarching theme is something as basic as “Slavery is… bad!” You are taught this in elementary school. This could have been done in less than 3 episodes under the dynamism of the prologue, and Thorfinn’s pacifism would have at least been somewhat more believable in a plot with proper happenings gravitating him towards an active MC role instead of being a glorified exposition dump in disguise for what he’s thinking. The series’ soft reset completely bottlenecks the natural progression of the once hot-blooded plot and characters that the series laid out, and thus Farmland Saga struggles to justify its existence. It no longer moves forward in sharp incremental episodes but wallows in nigh-episodic bloat. The character who suffers the most from this stifling shift in direction is of course Thorfinn, who’s treated like a messianic figure for some reason that the narrative never challenges the ideals of. You can now break down his character arc as Sasuke Uchiha —> Jesus Christ. Honestly, Canute's way of peace is far more pragmatic and he should've been the main character after Askeladd's death.
The plot is also cultivated primarily by poor character drama, unintelligent character decisions, accidental happenings and plot devices, which is why aside from most of the cast being lifeless husks, are also unlikeable. Einar is only angry about no longer being a free man and seeing his family members murdered before his eyes in the immediate moment, and he and the 10 unrestrained slaves being transported by boat by the few Danish raiders never attempt to resist or hijack the vessel. Gardar is introduced to serve merely as a tool for the series to once again unsubtlely preach “Here’s why violence is bad” in a scene that diminishes both his and Arnheid’s character after the two had already received incessant flashbacks that could’ve instead made way for more pivotal moments in the story like a certain reunion not being underwhelming. Even the climax of this arc is an illustration of shallow thematic execution; a culmination of the poor character drama and unintelligent character actions, where Thorfinn displays suicidal levels of restraint that should’ve gotten himself killed if not for the plot armour that the narrative places on his idealism, followed by corny dialogue and an unbelievable resolution that assassinates Canute’s character writing.
"I have no enemies." Bravo Uzumaki Thorfinn.
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Japanese: ヴィンランド・サガ SEASON2
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24
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Jan 10, 2023 to Jun 20, 2023
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Winter 2023
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25 min. per ep.
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R - 17+ (violence & profanity)
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Your Feelings Categories Jun 25, 2023
Vinland Saga is the embodiment of anachronism and the self-fulfilment of the mocked utterance "If you kill your enemies, they win."
Imagine yourself being sold into slavery in 11th-century Scandinavia after brute-forcing your way to the Viking conquest of England’s conclusion as a mercenary. At this point you’re well acquainted with the brutish nature of the Dark Ages and the horrors of mankind--ceaseless wars and raids, slavery, the razing of entire villages, violent wars of succession--and in particular the ruthless 'might makes right' warrior culture of the Vikings which one of your loved ones died at the hands of. Now imagine one day in that traumatic ... Apr 23, 2023
I loved the first season. I loved it so much, that I sat through about 9 episodes of this before I realized that it was boring and I was just sitting around, waiting for something to happen. I loved it so much, that I continued to watch another 5 episodes, being as patient as I could. I can't keep watching this. I've been patient. I've given it 14 episodes. But I feel like the entire plot of the past 14 episodes could be summed up in about 2 paragraphs. Nothing happens. They go deeply into the backstory of random side characters, while ignoring the main
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Apr 14, 2023
It's a completely different show. The stunning action and character development that we loved about the season 1 is totally gone without a trace. Instead this show focuses on some non violence Gandhi crap. You can even call is a slice of life anime on slaves. Thorfinn's character has taken a completele 180 and the story itself doesn't seem to head anywhere if it has any on the first place. It's getting more and more boring with each episodes and I might end up dropping it it this show continues this path.
The animation is decent and the FEW action sequences this show has were good. If ... Jun 20, 2023
The concept of a Mangaka, encompassing both exceptional artistic talent and exceptional writing, has always been a challenging feat to achieve. To possess one can already be considered lucky, but to excel at both is truly rare. While there have been exceptional Mangakas, Makoto Yukimura's Vinland Saga Season 2 unfortunately falls short of this mark.
Part 1: A Mockery of the Norse Culture Vinland Saga Season 2 can only be described as a direct mockery of the source material that served as its inspiration. In contemporary Manga adaptations, one would expect a deeper exploration of the chosen setting. However, Vinland Saga neglects to incorporate any elements of ... Mar 16, 2023
I rewatched the first season before starting this one, and man did it keep up with my memories of it watching the first time around. The thrill of action, story, and developments of the first season are undoubtedly up there with the best. Diving straight into the 2nd season-- it's terrible. I feel like 6 episodes went by without a single meaningful thing happening. It genuinely felt like sitting through the endless 8 arc. So far there is no action, no meaningful contributions to the original story, and no characters developments. Sadly, the production is still almost as beautiful the first season. Which is an
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Nov 24, 2023
The audience’s reception of Vinland Saga S2 has been pretty bipolar. On one hand, we have the fans saying Thorfinn has had fantastic character development and is now a very wise and mature figure, while on the other hand, critics say this season was slow and boring like a farming simulator. However, very few people seem to share my main issue with the show.
Thorfinn is a hardcore pacifist, which is alright, but the show tries to present him and his philosophy as *THE* right way to live your life, and that anyone who uses violence has yet to come to the “enlightenment” that Thorfinn has ... Mar 29, 2023
This pains me to write but Vinland Saga season 2 is a huge disappointment. I am a huge fan of the series but Season 2 just might have some of the worst pacing, characters, acting, and directing I have ever seen in an anime of this caliber. I won't go too into details, just watch the show for yourself and you can see, but my main issue with the show is the characters. My problem isn't the lack of action, the new characters are just about the most unlikeable people in all of anime.
Two characters in particular bother me the most: Einar, who takes ... Jul 23, 2023
Season 1 offered us an exceptional experience, with incredible openings and endings, and high-quality dubbing that added even more depth to the characters. The animation of the fights was beautifully done, and the battles and wars were closely tied to a story of revenge, promising a perilous journey towards a utopian destination: Vinland. We hope to see this explored further in the following seasons. In summary, Season 1 presented us with a captivating and successful set of elements.
However, Season 2 is a disappointment in many ways. The absence of fights, battles, and wars has taken away the very essence of the Viking world. Instead of ... May 14, 2023
I don't get some positive reviews on this scam... If you want to get what this season is about quickly, take a minute to imagine what you would feel if a series like "Friends" from one season to another turned out into something similar to a horror/suspense movie instead of fun and entertainment. If you wouldn't like something like that to happen, then you get what this season is about.
On the other hand, if you are a loser who enjoys that kind of nonsense changes of topics in a series, then you will love this. I like drama series, and I like action animes; I watch ... Sep 9, 2023
I don't know who marked this thing as Action/Adventure, but he should really buy a dictionary.
Action is non-existent, they spend 10 seasons farming. Adventure is non-existent, because they never leave the freakin' farm! Almost nothing happens. This is slice of life with drama elements, and 99% of what you see is moralizing. What's more, the moralizing doesn't even fit the historical setting. Plot armor is the only thing allowing the main character to nurture his new way of life. Boring, boring, thrice boring. In other news: - story was unpredictably stupid and unrealistic, not fitting at all - characters either lacked depth or had depth that doesn't fit them - art style didn't ... Jun 19, 2023
Vinland Saga Season 2 is a complete disaster and a waste of time. It's supposed to be a historical anime about Vikings, but it's more like a soap opera with boring dialogue, unrealistic characters and plot holes. The animation is terrible, the music is annoying and the voice acting is cringeworthy. Thorfinn is a pacifist who can't fight for himself or his friends. He's constantly lectured by Einar, a farmer who thinks he knows everything about life and morality. Leif Erikson is a useless old man who can't navigate or sail. The story is full of clichés, contradictions and inconsistencies "I have no enemies". There
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Oct 9, 2023
The idea that Thorfin had any meaningful character development this season is simply WRONG. The premise of pacifism, more specifically the ideals that Thorfin was preaching is simply flawed.
Consider the following: Without hate, love is meaningless. If you do not hate those who destroy what you love, you do not love. In just one small sentence, the whole premise of Thorfin's season 2 "character development" is rebutted and we didn't need 24 episodes to realize pacifism is a fundamentally flawed premise. Throughout the show, the viewer is force fed this idea that to be morally virtuous, one must 'have no enemies' and forgive literally everyone unabashedly. ... Nov 21, 2023
One of the most boring anime I've watched in a long time. Nothing happens. It's fine that a viking-based anime doesn't have action. But where action lacks, there needs to be a better story, dialogue or something to carry it. None of that was noticeably better than the next anime. Fanboys will tout the character development, but it was mediocre. I really don't see what's the big deal. The best argument for the anime is a setup for a further part of the story, in which case, maybe it raises the overall ranking of the whole show. But this specific season was incredibly painful to
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Jun 19, 2023
Vinland Saga, you’ve heard of it, it is this incredibly serious, mature and realistic series telling a tale of Vikings, rich in great characters, whose visuals are breathtaking and it has one of the greatest stories to ever be conceived in manga and anime… except, all of this is a lie. Vinland Saga as a narrative isn’t really enticing, and the realism dies on the very first minute of the first episode of the first season where a guy chops 4 men standing separately in a square-like formation and a mast in the center of them with a single axe swing, and it doesn’t get
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Jun 13, 2023
Why were so many people excited about the first season? The Vikings, the violence, the interesting characters, the fights, the hate, and even a touch of brilliance. Characters like Thorkell were celebrated with many memes for a reason. This is how I imagine the hard, cold north.
But what happened to the second season? A midlife crisis with moral apostles and a retirement home. Even a supporting character was given a starring role. I was hoping every minute for an exciting turning point, but nothing came. The boredom was only surpassed by more boredom. I want to see bare skin, violence and fights like in the first ... Jul 21, 2023
As someone who mainly cares about the story, this season is as awful as it can get. I've just finished episode 6. Friends warned me that this season wouldn't have a lot of fighting, but I took that warning less serious than I should have. If you are really in love with Thorfinn, you may find validation in this season by telling yourself "This is all character development. A build up to something great". To those who watch a lot of animes for the fun of it, this season is as boring as it gets.
Story: The story pretty much takes place years after the events of ... Jul 5, 2023
On the main page of this anime, it is clearly said that the genres are action, adventure, and drama, yet it seems like there was a mistake. I didn't see any adventure and the action was questionable enough to call action.
Story: 3/10 Let's start with the story, well there isn't much. The whole story is set in one place only, a farm. Whilst that might not necessarily mean it's going to be bad, when you add to it a plot that is centered on farming, which isn't much of a surprise, then it becomes stale. The majority of this season is about a few characters ... Mar 1, 2024
“I have no enemies” look how well that philosophy got you. Your village in Iceland is defenseless, for all we know or care your daughter and wife was graped and milled or sold into slavery. Your son was left abandoned and forced into a horrible life.
Thorfinn literally has a home he can return to. Why does he not leave and go back. Leif is looking for him. Instead we get the “redemption arc”. How exactly does playing farming simulator make up for your past sins. It’s selfish to think it even remotely contributes. Plowing wheat is not going to make the people you milled ... Jun 4, 2023
They should put a slice of life tag for this season, this is a complete 180 turn from season 01 and the first 5-6 episodes are great for character development but then it just starts to feel too long drawn. This is utterly disappointing this show became a waste of time. it gets a bit better after 11 episodes because finally the story progresses but again it becomes a disappointment, it's just too lengthy there isn't much progression with the story. This season is too slow and no longer an action-adventure series. This is just drama and slice of life.
Jan 24, 2023
Summary: A 180 from season 1 which may leave many anime-only viewers questioning whether they should continue the Vinland adventure.
Story Season 2 appears as a full slice-of-life rather than focusing on development through conflict, history, politics, and visuals. It also doesn't appear to follow season 1 necessarily and instead, almost presents itself as a different show entirely. The pacing is substantially slower as we no longer see quick character development. Growth, and thus the story, is nearly halted to tortoise speed. Visuals They're good but do not live up to season 1. It's been a while since season 1 and considering its success, season 2 should have been ... |