Ymir is fucking stupid, what were her intentions? (SPOILERS)

Fail_Man_X said:

I'm not watching the series, but that sounds a lot like love to me...

spectrojan said:

born a slave live a slave die a slave

Mooprs said:

yeah she must have really the mental gymnastics go strong

Akilis93 said:


Sounds to me like you just don't get how complex emotions can be. You have all kinds of toxic love, addictions to partner who treats you like shit, because your Self-Esteem is shit as well. Many people stays in such horrible relationships because they don't know how to escape. Perhaps you just need to experience something like that to fully understand, but I don't wish you any of that. It can easily destroy anyone.

caioworld said:
I know this was most certainly answered already in discussions but help an anime-only out. Ymir did have the power to fight back against King Fritz and could easily kill the people that turned her in if she wanted, but why serve Fritz, have his kids, fight for him and sacrifice her life for him in the end? Why start a 2000 years cycle of disgrace for simply not stand up for herself?

Mooprs said:


I think you're making the story deeper than it actually is and ultimately coping pretty hard. It's almost like 1 random dude jokingly said "Stockholm syndrome lol" and now everyone is eating it up and acting intelligent about it. Much like you here. If you love someone enough to be a then it's not just going to break in 20minutes. Ymir is effectively a lazy written plot device to give glory to the protagonist.

Also to those saying that it's not love.
Idk how coping can get this bad, everyone suddenly acting like a psychiatrist is almost funny

Akilis93 said:


You don't have to be a plumber to know when pipe leaks, and you don't have to be a psychiatrist to see some obvious things. The reason many people keep saying it's stockholm syndrome is quite simple - because it is. If someone doesn't see that grass is green, then other will try to explain that it is, nothing surprising here.
By the way, you know how Avalanche can happen, right? Sometimes one little thing can trigger something much much bigger. Just saying, that it happens. Whether or not you like something like that is different story. You can deny Avalanche as well as Eren triggering Ymir, your choice.

Akilis93 said:


You don't have to be a plumber to know when pipe leaks, and you don't have to be a psychiatrist to see some obvious things. The reason many people keep saying it's stockholm syndrome is quite simple - because it is. If someone doesn't see that grass is green, then other will try to explain that it is, nothing surprising here.
By the way, you know how Avalanche can happen, right? Sometimes one little thing can trigger something much much bigger. Just saying, that it happens. Whether or not you like something like that is different story. You can deny Avalanche as well as Eren triggering Ymir, your choice.

snarat said:
this will be answered in the end. some people will not like the reason but they just do not understand the reality and humanity behind it, as tragic as it is. i think the way the story ended was the best way possible and the most real.

evoniee said:
only ymir knows.

jokes aside, nothing really matters anymore, the ending is garbage tier writing anyway, the writer does not care about it, why should we.

Hiro4ka11 said:
nah
it just we who doesn't pay attention to the info dropped in the last chapter.

"only Ymir knows"

is referring to why ymir waiting for "that person"
and explained later in the last page

NEMESIS95 said:
I'm guessing if it's becouse she was born a slave ?

SenbeiPan said:

If you are "speaking clearly form an anime only side" why did you bring up the Stockholm Syndrome? There was no traces of that "syndrome" in the episode 5. Only a backstory with bunch of emotionless face, then the angry face of a tortured girl.

Roger1 said:

Lol you’ll only know about the stockholm cope if you’ve read the manga xD why lie on an anime forum lmao hahaha you’re telling me you thought of stockholm syndrom just from episode 5? HAHAHHAHA

adnan_ said:
Not really I got it and many in the anime episode discussion got and many anime only reactors got it. Its pretty easy observation IMO

JJ_jose said:
It's like this fandom has either never heard of Stockholm syndrome or refuse to believe it's a real and serious thing. Christ people it's obvious as fuck and is thrown right in your face

ABISHEKuabishek said:
if you don't know the meaning of Stockholm syndrome then don't use it baka. Stockholm syndrome is only shown when the abuser/kidnapper shows some kind of love towards you. Now tell me when did the king actually showed some kind of love here?

Mooprs said:


It also seems like you don't fully understand what stockholm syndrome is to begin with. Here's a comment from a reddit user(BATCHEST!!!) kind of venting about the delusional concept of love in the AOT fanbase.

Stockholm syndrome is a very rare case that does not happen in situations such as these. Even if it did, the events that take place in episode 5 are quite contradictory to that concept. But keep acting like your intelligence or knowledge of human emotions is superior to everyone here.

Akilis93 said:


And when exactly did I say that I am superior to anyone in any way? XDD Because I said that someone doesnt understand one thing? You got a little carried away dude. But enough for me to see that we won't have any constructive dialogue. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean that this someone is acting superior to anyone.
You think I misunderstand, I think you don't understand. That's all from me.

Mooprs said:

You're acting exactly like that. You are saying others are not educated as much as you. Don't play dumb.

Akilis93 said:


Sounds to me like you just don't get how complex emotions can be. You have all kinds of toxic love, addictions to partner who treats you like shit, because your Self-Esteem is shit as well. Many people stays in such horrible relationships because they don't know how to escape. Perhaps you just need to experience something like that to fully understand, but I don't wish you any of that. It can easily destroy anyone.

Mooprs said:

WHAT? XDDDDDD OK XDDDD :DDDD
"It's like this fandom has either never heard of Stockholm syndrome or refuse to believe it's a real and serious thing. Christ people it's obvious as fuck and is thrown right in your face"

"Sounds to me like you just don't get how complex emotions can be. You have all kinds of toxic love, addictions to partner who treats you like shit, because your Self-Esteem is shit as well. Many people stays in such horrible relationships because they don't know how to escape. Perhaps you just need to experience something like that to fully understand, but I don't wish you any of that. It can easily destroy anyone."

this is what we call a superiority complex

Akilis93 said:


No. This is what we call a reading comprehension problem. Or misunderstanding.
You can accuse me acting with superiority when I'll start saying thing like ' you don't understand because u are stupid and I understand because Im smarter than you" or something like that. What you quote above has nothing to do with superiority. First thing is disbelief (whether or not it's justified is a different story, but we won't come to agreement) and second quote is simply explaining my point of view, or, to be precise, some actual things. Becuase I hope you won't deny that there are a lot of toxic relationships on this world.
Hope I clarify you a little. And that was all you can get from me. I don't feel like I can have a normal conversation with you, so Im not gonna waste any more time here. Of course you can accuse me of running away because thats pretty common reaction here on mal, when someone decides to cease the conversation but let's be civilized.
Have a good day/night/whatever you have at your end.

Spektral_Beast said:
Oh well she obviously loves the guy who enslaved her for years am i right guys? :|

DestroyrOfDemons said:


Stockholm Syndrome is real but to base Ymir's entire character and personality on that one aspect is, in my opinion, a laziness in writing. She had the power and ability because of she is the origin of the Paths to foster an "Eren-like" character over the 2000 years but she didn't which leads me to believe her so-called Stockholm Syndrome must be pretty strong, right? So why does it take Eren only a few nice words to break out her of it? It seems there too many plot conveniences but I hope my questions will get answered in the future episodes. Thanks

DestroyrOfDemons said:


Stockholm Syndrome is real but to base Ymir's entire character and personality on that one aspect is, in my opinion, a laziness in writing. She had the power and ability because of she is the origin of the Paths to foster an "Eren-like" character over the 2000 years but she didn't which leads me to believe her so-called Stockholm Syndrome must be pretty strong, right? So why does it take Eren only a few nice words to break out her of it? It seems there too many plot conveniences but I hope my questions will get answered in the future episodes. Thanks

caioworld said:
I know this was most certainly answered already in discussions but help an anime-only out. Ymir did have the power to fight back against King Fritz and could easily kill the people that turned her in if she wanted, but why serve Fritz, have his kids, fight for him and sacrifice her life for him in the end? Why start a 2000 years cycle of disgrace for simply not stand up for herself?

Roger1 said:

Bruh the ending’s been out for months obviously you’ve been spoiled xD you also rated the manga 10/10 LMAO Aot fans really coping hard hahahaha