| In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies and manga publishers, the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation against foreign sites which have illegally uploaded anime and manga contents on the web without the copyright holders' permission, NHK reported on July 28th. While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports, there appears to be no end of illegal uploading of anime and manga via pirate sites, mainly operated by Chinese. The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion). On August 1st, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen. Official Manga-Anime Guardians site: http://manga-anime-here.com/ Source: NHK News News submitted by BydeFinition Update July 30 METI (Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) has published a press release stating 500 manga works and 80 anime works are being targeted, not websites. The press release includes a PowerPoint that contains an actual list of websites they are targeting. Included are scanlation sites (slides 11-12), fansub upload websites (slides 13-15), direct download websites (slide 16), torrent sites (slides 17-18), and redistribution websites (slides 19-20). Source: METI press release |
NaruleachJul 30, 2014 2:56 AM
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| Yoooooooooo It sounds like they are focusing mainly on Chinese sites.... but dangggg... I'm going to miss my typeset if this does go through. Also as a mod note: Please do not let this thread be solely on the legality of piracy. |
ZelotJul 29, 2014 9:01 AM
| Okay. Good luck with that, Japan. |
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| No thanks, I'm not paying until a specific anime is offered (and it won't happen and it will just be for that anime only if it did). Also, It also won't really stop piracy, they are far too late. Another thing, I can see the site getting a region lock (there's zero mention of a region lock, but this is Japan we are dealing with, region lock is something that's shouldn't be ruled out). |
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| old anime is better than new anime anyway |
| It'll be like taking 1 down, 5 more pops up in its place. Good freaking luck. |
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| brb gonna download my whole plan to watch list... Or not. I doubt this will affect my anime watching in any way. |
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| I can just always fly to Japan to grab some merchandise. The only fall back is the travel cost >.> If they would just localize a decent number of series here in my country or at least in NA (so I can ask my cousin to buy for me), I'll be satisfied. That's wishful thinking though.... But to be honest, I think this move will prove futile after a few months (if they shot down at least 5 sites). P2P, nuff said. |
| Looks like they're mainly focusing on Chinese sites, so I doubt this will affect me very much, if at all. But of course I watch all my anime legally....Yeah... |
| So will the legitimate site have English sub in it? |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| Really only affects streaming sites. Even then, it's a futile effort since if you take one down, another will pop up. It's a never-ending cycle that has been going on for ages - piracy will never be truly dealt with. You either adjust your business and distribution model or waste your time blaming/"fighting" piracy. |
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NeoAnkara said: So will the legitimate site have English sub in it? Probably not, chances are it will be raw or have Chinese subs at best, they'd mention languages available by now. |
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| Meh, I have Crunchyroll. c: |
Stark700 said: It'll be like taking 1 down, 5 more pops up in its place. Good freaking luck. I agree. Japan is out of luck. |
| "Did you really think I wouldn’t cheat just because I was already winning?" - Dread Emperor Terribilis II "I chose glory and success. The box did not contain what was written on the lid." - Sand dan Glokta |
| "On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents..." Requests? Japan: "Please delete our stuff from your site." Site: "Nope." -end |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
NeoAnkara said: So will the legitimate site have English sub in it? Very unlikely. Tachycardic said: Meh, I have Crunchyroll. c: For airing series, it's a great choice, but a large number of people will suffer from region locks. Not to mention that their manga lineup is too small. |
| The only possible way they could really fight piracy is threatnoing to arrest people for piracy, which they technically could, since pirates provide illegal copies of content and that's finable (The 250,000 dollar fine) They'dneeed to really enforce that to fight piracy. |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
StardustNyako said: The only possible way they could really fight piracy is threatnoing to arrest people for piracy, which they technically could, since pirates provide illegal copies of content and that's finable (The 250,000 dollar fine) They'dneeed to really enforce that to fight piracy. Already happens in Japan to uploaders, however with the Chinese it's impossible due to jurisdictional rules. |
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| Is it only chinese sites or it would affect all the "illegal" sites from other countries? kinda ambiguous. julyan said: For airing series, it's a great choice, but a large number of people will suffer from region locks. Not to mention that their manga lineup is too small. Yes, this is the problem in here. All the legal sites are being locked from region locks. If all the illegal sites were exterminated. How could i watch anime? It would be good if they sells an original DVD in here but honestly, they arent. |
KynovJul 29, 2014 9:36 AM
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| No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :(( |
KyDrop said: No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :(( You stream? Eww. But no, they're safe. |
KyDrop said: No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :(( This is what the corporate tyranny does to the fans, they find ways to screw them over and bite the hands that feed them knowing well what could happen if they did. If so called "fixed" $400-700 BDs weren't already enough of a screw up for fans. |
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Rance-sama said: KyDrop said: No more Kissanime,Anime Season,AnimeRush,AnimeGet or AnimePlus?? :(( You stream? Eww. But no, they're safe. Nice :D |
| I'm dubious about the Chinese part because I don't see how they will be able to reinforce it other than cooperating with the Chinese government... which is very unlikely.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Pretty wishful thinking Japan. Let's not forget, it's a Chinese-Japanese agreement we're talking about here. For Japan, taking China down entirely on any issue requires getting every other world power involved and forcing them to stop at gun point. |
Wecc said: All Hail HaXXspetten King of the Loli Traps! |
| As long as my sources (mainly fansub groups) don't go down, I'm fine with it since in the end it won't succeed anyway. China's just going to respond with "lolnope". |
| Hopefully they don't take down sites I use to watch anime/read manga. Why are they doing this now all of a sudden? |
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AkatsukiWolf said: Hopefully they don't take down sites I use to watch anime/read manga. Why are they doing this now all of a sudden? Because they are corporate tyrants and highway robbers, they better not charge per episode, that would piss every fan off 100 fold. |
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| If the US cant(want?) completely fight piracy, I dont see how Japan will. |
| Well for now they start from China but you never know when they will go for western sites. I don't know if that's gonna benefit it them in the future because thanks to pirate sites many people got to know anime and start buying manga/anime merchandise. I respect copyright and stuff but I believe that decisions like that might bite them in the ass. |
| The big shonen titles (mainly naruto bleach and one piece) people will upload them to porn sites if necessary, I'm not even joking :( |
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| They can't help but be a bit procey at this point since hardly anyone buys. If only more people bought the DVDs so they could shrink the price (Or they could advertise DVDs at a cheaper price and have people "pledge" to buy this DVD at this low price when the DVD comes out) Right now we are at a dead lock of highh prices due to people not wanting to buy. something has to change or piracy will remain an issue that'll only get worse. |
| "Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
Sensus_97 said: I got into anime through Cable TV way back when. They need to make more agreementsto put anime there.Well for now they start from China but you never know when they will go for western sites. I don't know if that's gonna benefit it them in the future because thanks to pirate sites many people got to know anime and start buying manga/anime merchandise. I respect copyright and stuff but I believe that decisions like that might bite them in the ass. |
| "Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
| Even if they do manage to take down lots of sites down, god knows how many will pop up in their stead. I buy anime on DVD or Blu-ray, but I have no money to pay for every single show I like and there's also the fact that LOTS of shows haven't even been licensed and some probably never will be. It's impossible to watch every single anime legally. Oh, and Crunchyroll. Not doing that. I don't like streaming my anime even if it's legal and there's region restrictions. It's futile. |
| Don't know whether it would be effective or not In a way those piracy sites are actually promoting anime and manga outside japan. Getting rid of those in a way would be beneficial in term of decreasing potential loss, but.... |
| The thing is, a lot of English sub sites are run by people in China as well. So it's hard to say it won't affect us at all. Hopefully the site that I regularly use won't go down, as that's all I really care about. But honestly there are so many streaming/reading sites popping up every other day so it'll be hard for them to actually control anything. |
StardustNyako said: Sensus_97 said: I got into anime through Cable TV way back when. They need to make more agreementsto put anime there.Well for now they start from China but you never know when they will go for western sites. I don't know if that's gonna benefit it them in the future because thanks to pirate sites many people got to know anime and start buying manga/anime merchandise. I respect copyright and stuff but I believe that decisions like that might bite them in the ass. Well same. I started with Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball etc back at 90s without knowing anything about the japanese culture tho. In my country (and I'm sure in other western countries) we had problems with the broadcast of new episodes.. Keeping watching same episodes was a never ending story, which sucked. And let's not forget the dubs... In some cases the dubs were horrible. |
Sensus_97Jul 29, 2014 10:13 AM
OrangeRafi said: Okay. Good luck with that, Japan. ^ pretty much this |
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| It is useless. They can't stop piracy of manga and anime. |
| Are they still trying? lol Should realize by now this is going to be a never-ending fight with no conclusion. |
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| As long as they don't take down my favorite sites, then i'm good. |
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