| Web magazine Cyzo interviewed anime director Hosoda Mamoru. At the end of the interview, Hosoda expressed his objection to the recent trend of releasing anime movies derived from TV series. Hosoda said: I think producing a movie by means of animation has a broad potential. However, Studio Ghibli, or rather, Miyazaki Hayao has been the only successful anime movie producer who exerts himself (for creating the original works). It's sad to see the rest of the producers missing the chance to create a wide variety of anime movies. ... Recently some robot anime movies are produced based on TV series. But they are merely running character business through the movie media. I don't criticize robot anime itself, but at least they should have produced original movies. TV-derived anime movies don't expand the creativity of the industry nor fulfill the social task of animation movies. Source: Cyzo |
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| I wouldn't say Miyazaki is the only successful one; Ghibli is certainly the most successful movie studio, but there have been other successful titles without being attached to an existing franchise. I do agree that it sucks that a lot of movies are just recaps of a series (Shana, Nanoha, Macross F etc). I'd like to see more original content, not recycling of existing stuff. |
| I see his point, but at from a profit point of view, movies from successful TV series will probably do better from originals... unless your name is of course, Hayao Miyazaki. |
Asako said: I wouldn't say Miyazaki is the only successful one; Ghibli is certainly the most successful movie studio, but there have been other successful titles without being attached to an existing franchise. I do agree that it sucks that a lot of movies are just recaps of a series (Shana, Nanoha, Macross F etc). I'd like to see more original content, not recycling of existing stuff. I agree. Plus hasn't Kon Satoshi been successful at all? You'd hope so. |
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Asako said: I wouldn't say Miyazaki is the only successful one; Ghibli is certainly the most successful movie studio, but there have been other successful titles without being attached to an existing franchise. "Successful producer" was not an accurate translation. He said 宮崎駿さんたちしか頑張っていらっしゃらない状況がずっと続いている I take "頑張っている" here as "Only Miyazaki has been working energetically on original creations". |
dtshyk said: Still, Kon Satoshi fits into that category as well.Asako said: I wouldn't say Miyazaki is the only successful one; Ghibli is certainly the most successful movie studio, but there have been other successful titles without being attached to an existing franchise. "Successful producer" was not an accurate translation. He said 宮崎駿さんたちしか頑張っていらっしゃらない状況がずっと続いている I take "頑張っている" here as "Only Miyazaki has been working energetically on original creations". |
| It just happens that the Gundam series is a lot more popular than their successful original works of animation.. Thus, their criticism of the anime movies should be treated as music to one's ears, generally... I am going to ignore it. |
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llxwarbirdxll said: They should make a Boku no Pico movie. QFT |
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Asako said: Yes this, recap movies are almost always disappointing.I do agree that it sucks that a lot of movies are just recaps of a series (Shana, Nanoha, Macross F etc). I'd like to see more original content, not recycling of existing stuff. |
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| And there is also Makoto Shinkai! |
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BigSimo said: hasn't Kon Satoshi been successful at all? You'd hope so. Shaoran said: And there is also Makoto Shinkai! The problem is that these two are working at their own pace...and Ghibli is working on a steady pace with at least one movie coming out every two years or so (not all of them are directed by Miyazaki himself though). And, success-wise, both Satoshi Kon and Makoto Shinkai are ten times less successful than Miyazaki (even if both are actually much better directors imo). |
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| LOL! Is this some kind of secret code to bash NGE? I'm sensing Mamoru is targeting NGE w/ those words. Making both Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo + Summer Wars, I hope you're not looking for a fight =3 |
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Rweck said: LOL! Is this some kind of secret code to bash NGE? I'm sensing Mamoru is targeting NGE w/ those words. Making both Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo + Summer Wars, I hope you're not looking for a fight =3 He provoked a fight with: Evangelion Gurren Lagan Gundam 00 Eureka Seven Macross Frontier |
| Says the guy who made Digimon movies. |
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| He could have meant TTGL, NGE, or even Eureka Seven :/ Edit: Grr see what happens when i leave the page open for a few minutes before posting. I get a post 2 posts above that brings up more suggestions :P |
Aeiou said: Says the guy who made Digimon movies. ROTFL Yeah, it's about time more original anime movies are produced, |
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ntHai said: He's right. Movie is a completely different medium. You just can't make a recap and compress it into 150 minutes (Gurren Lagann) or just make the end of a series into a movie (Eden of the East). No one actually said that the movies of Eden of the East would be the "end of a series". Most likely, they would be recaps as well. And the first trailer more or less proves that. |
| Complaining about the lack of creativity in the industry, I guess. Laziness, too because you don't need to use your noggers much if the material is there with the added bonus of ready audience. But he's the guy who made how many Digimons? Kudos though to Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo |
seishi-sama said: ntHai said: He's right. Movie is a completely different medium. You just can't make a recap and compress it into 150 minutes (Gurren Lagann) or just make the end of a series into a movie (Eden of the East). No one actually said that the movies of Eden of the East would be the "end of a series". Most likely, they would be recaps as well. And the first trailer more or less proves that. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a sequel. It was announced somewhere. I can't find the topic, but it's here, somewhere in the News forum board. |
| @ntHai The trailer says the first movie takes place half a year after Takizawa disappeared. http://www.juiz.jp/special/#/trailer/ |
| He forgot also about Shinkai, frankly I find him more successful than Miyazaki. Other than I agree, movies as just another franchise sucks big time. |
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llxwarbirdxll said: They should make a Boku no Pico movie. haaaa XD |
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wakka9ca said: Aeiou said: Says the guy who made Digimon movies. ROTFL Yeah, it's about time more original anime movies are produced, The digimon movies were original content though xD Errrr... at least the 2000 one was o.o (Being the only one I ever saw back when I was a kid lol) |
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| At least he made the GOOD digimon stuff. |
dtshyk said: However, Studio Ghibli, or rather, Miyazaki Hayao has been the only successful anime movie producer who exerts himself (for creating the original works). Satoshi Kon??????????????????????? Rweck said: LOL! Is this some kind of secret code to bash NGE? I'm sensing Mamoru is targeting NGE w/ those words. Making both Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo + Summer Wars, I hope you're not looking for a fight =3 I'd say he's directing it more to movies like Gurren-hen. The recent Rebuild of Evangelion movie has created a huge gap between itself and the original series. It is pretty much an original movie, or at least half way there. |
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Aeiou said: Says the guy who made Digimon movies. Yeah, but he didn't make recaps :P Also, Eureka Seven can't be called a recap movie. That was 100% its own thing. |
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dtshyk said: Evangelion Gurren Lagan Gundam 00 Eureka Seven Macross Frontier I got the idea that he was complaining about movies the remake movies who lack originality, so movies like Gundam 00 and Eureka 7 are probably ok because they have a brand new plot |
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| He's so damn right. He forgot Shinkai btw |
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| Well known does not translate into good. I never understood the hype about Miyazaki. Maybe I'm an idiot, but I find all of his symbolism and such to be another "GRRR, I HATE PEOPLE!" sort of thing. |
dtshyk said: Rweck said: LOL! Is this some kind of secret code to bash NGE? I'm sensing Mamoru is targeting NGE w/ those words. Making both Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo + Summer Wars, I hope you're not looking for a fight =3 He provoked a fight with: Evangelion Gurren Lagan Gundam 00 Eureka Seven Macross Frontier As much as I understand his point for Gurren Lagann, Eureka Seven and Macross Frontier (and most probably Gundam 00 even if the movie has not been released yet), which were bad recap movies or even worse than that for E7 (a new story on mostly used images and scenes...), I totally disagree with him on Eva 2.0, which is probably the only animated movie coming out this year that offers a serious competition to Summer Days and maybe beat it technically and artistically, so I don't feel he's right to generalize his comment to the masterpiece of Anno. It clearly doesn't deserve it. |
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| i wouldn't agree with him, the point is that how good the storyline adaption is and the quality of the animation itself. It doesn't matter if it's an original work or an adaption from a TV series or a movie. |
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| Yeah, I would love to see more anime movies really push the envelope. Summer Wars and Sword of the Stranger are a start, but we need more. I think though, that in addition to those, we need more creativity in the licensed stuff so that it can be as good as an original production. His One Piece movie(and from what I hear, his work on Digimon) really stands out and uses the property for something more than just a 45 minute fight scene or a recap. |
| I don't think Shinkai has been cited because its still fairly early in his career where Miyazaki is a seasoned veteran with several under his belt. Shinkai has maybe three feature films (including the one in the making) and I don't know how successful his films have been. Depending on if Hosoda is talking Box Office Gross or Critical Acclaim |
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| But i think sometimes recap movies are good i mean when they make lots of money on them then there is chance for another seasson. At least thats what i think. |
UrbanScytheMay 9, 2010 7:51 AM
UrbanScythe said: You make another season if, y'know, the actual series makes money. I'm not aware of a second season of anime being produced after the prior season slumped but the recap movie succeeded (has there ever been a property that's even produced a recap after a failed season, anyway?).But i think sometimes recap movies are good i mean when they make lots of money on them then there is chance for another seasson. At least thats what i think. Hosoda seems neglectful of Kon -- and by extension, both he and Kon have become associated with Madhouse -- but his points are valid. Anime movies are largely extensions of property... and in a similar way, so are many anime adaptions, where you already have an established base (like, say, with light novels or visual novels). |
seishi-sama said: BigSimo said: hasn't Kon Satoshi been successful at all? You'd hope so. Shaoran said: And there is also Makoto Shinkai! The problem is that these two are working at their own pace...and Ghibli is working on a steady pace with at least one movie coming out every two years or so (not all of them are directed by Miyazaki himself though). And, success-wise, both Satoshi Kon and Makoto Shinkai are ten times less successful than Miyazaki (even if both are actually much better directors imo). I agree with that. MAkoto Shinkai and Satoshi Kon deserve ten thousand times more appreciation than they actually. I think they're all on par with Miyazaki though. The reason why people make lots of stupid TV-series based anime movies is because TV series are already super popular which promises a huge profit form the movie. I have yet to see a GOOD movie based on the TV series. Naruto, Bleach, and other series-beased movies are TOTAL crap with an extremely weak plot, ridiculous lines and a more ridiculous way of presenting the whole thing. They totally forget that the movie has to convey an idea, has to excel in quality and leave a good trace in the people's memories. Those who watch stuff like TV-derived anime movies have a poor taste, IMO. Though it's not "IMO", it's obvious... |
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