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Sep 29, 2013 5:42 PM
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At Japan Expo, Yen press officially announced that they had bought the licenses for Reki Kawahara's light novels Sword Art Online and Accel World.

Yen Press has asked Baka Tsuki to remove the fan translations of the novels when they publish the first volume in 2014. These new translated light novels however, will take some time (maybe years) until they catch up with their Japanese counterparts.

Other titles Yen Press bought include Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Different Story, Blood Lad, and two official Sword Art Online manga - Aincrad and Fairy Dance.

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Well I would say officially translated novel is not the same as fan-translated.

I honestly don't think fan translation will impact the official version. This is not manga, as 100% words are important. Thus fan translations should technically be allowed. Then again, these are "unauthorized" translations. In other words, BT don't have the copyright of the original material.

Hmm, just made sure I backed up all the AW and SAO PDFs while they are still out there.
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Mm interesting news.

So I'm guessing those fan translations from Baka Tsuki will be removed soon starting next year. But yeah, it will take quite awhile to catch up to the volumes.
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It has been quite some time this was announced. I wonder if no one posted here before.

Anyways, it will come down to if Yen press decide to mess up with the original cover.
Sep 29, 2013 6:06 PM
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Anyways, it will come down to if Yen press decide to mess up with the original cover.


You mean replace it with some random 3D guy? Lol.

I remember the Spice and Wolf debacle with the cover.
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Sep 29, 2013 6:08 PM
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Even if they remove them, people have downloaded the PDF files and will just re-upload them somewhere else.
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I will find which volume I miss on my PDF folder.
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This makes me happy and sad at the same time. I'm happy because SAO & Accel World will have a chance to be more popular in the West. But I'm sad because:

tsubasalover said:
These new translated light novels however, will take some time (maybe years) until they catch up to their Japanese counterparts.

It's not like Baka Tsuki is super-fast with the translation either. Still... :(
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Even if they remove them, people have downloaded the PDF files and will just re-upload them somewhere else.


The problem is preventing any future translation of the work. In other words, any newly released LN of those series in Japan will no longer be translated by BT.

I think that's what makes people pissed. There is no guarantee Yen Press will translate everything and we don't know how many years it's gonna take.

Imagine To Aru Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*
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Tyrel said:
Even if they remove them, people have downloaded the PDF files and will just re-upload them somewhere else.


The problem is preventing any future translation of the work. In other words, any newly released LN of those series in Japan will no longer be translated by BT.

I think that's what makes people pissed. There is no guarantee Yen Press will translate everything and we don't know how many years it's gonna take.

Imagine To Aru Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*

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Natsu12345 said:
wakka9ca said:
Tyrel said:
Even if they remove them, people have downloaded the PDF files and will just re-upload them somewhere else.


The problem is preventing any future translation of the work. In other words, any newly released LN of those series in Japan will no longer be translated by BT.

I think that's what makes people pissed. There is no guarantee Yen Press will translate everything and we don't know how many years it's gonna take.

Imagine To Aru Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*

Bolded: That's scary.


Well on the plus side, To Aru is a completed series so hopefully whoever picks it up officially will consider New Testament as a separate series....

I wish I can say the same for SAO and AW.
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wakka9ca said:
Imagine To Aru Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*
I don't think even Yen Press would risk licensing a series with over 30+ volumes available.

And yeah, this is pretty much old news. It's a mix bag for me because of B-T having to take them down but now I'll be able to purchase an English copy now. Hopefully Tap and EternalDreamer finishes vol13 of SAO and vol5 of AW before then. The latter won't be much of a pain to wait for the official release but it will take almost 5 years for YP to catch up to the Alicization arc volumes. What a pain.

And while I haven't checked the release date and price of AW yet, the 1st volumes of SAO manga and LN are available. The manga will be out on March 25 and costs US$20. The LN will be out on April 22 and costs US$13.
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belatkuro said:
wakka9ca said:
Imagine To Aru Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*
I don't think even Yen Press would risk licensing a series with over 30+ volumes available.


Yeah. Usually for very long series they only license part of it. For instance, check Guin Saga. Only the 5 first volumes were licensed at a time. This is normal because they don't know if it's gonna be profitable or not.

Then again, look at what happened to Case Closed/Detective Conan debacle with Funimation... Of course, publishing house are usually more mature and reasonable than anime companies... *cough* *cough*
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belatkuro said:


And while I haven't checked the release date and price of AW yet, the 1st volumes of SAO manga and LN are available. The manga will be out on March 25 and costs US$20. The LN will be out on April 22 and costs US$13.
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Oh boy. No cover yet, this can't be a good sign.
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What happen to SnS localisation?
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Good news for Accel World's slow translation, awful news for SAO's quick, consistent one.

Hopefully there'll be external groups translating the latter work.
Sep 29, 2013 7:10 PM

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Don't care about SAO at all as i find the story too restrained and mediocre for my taste, though i'm still somehow intrigued by Accel World (particularly the parts not covered in anime) and will surely import it when its' officially released. Also, it's been months since i last imported book from US via Amazon (it was vol 2 of Game of Thrones if i'm not wrong)
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When the fuck is Monogatari going to get licensed *frustrated*


Honestly, it's hard to translate Monogatari series because the Japanese meaning of the wordplay will be lost.
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VanishingKira said:
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When the fuck is Monogatari going to get licensed *frustrated*


Honestly, it's hard to translate Monogatari series because the Japanese meaning of the wordplay will be lost.
Yeah that is true,that's probably why it hasn't got a dub either even thought it's a popular series.

I think the series is best to remain Japanese with some subs to explain stuffs. If you understand Japanese you will appreciate more the series anyway...

A general rule is that LN looks really bad depending on how it is translated. Most of the writing style in Japanese LN is quite different from the western one.
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Definitely gonna check out Accel World.
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Wished they would have licensed the DRRR!! novels, but whatever.
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When the fuck is Monogatari going to get licensed *frustrated*


Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon needs to get licensed.
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wakka9ca said:

Imagine To Aru Majutsu no Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*

That would be crazy. But like belatkuro said, it's so long a series with so many side stories that it's too much of a risk for ANYONE who wants to localize it. Remember what happened to Shakugan no Shana. While I, personally, would buy it, I doubt that publication of the series would last more than 6 volumes in the US before it stops for To Aru.

With regards to SAO and AW...I lost interest in those a long time ago.

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Will never happen though

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Horizon getting licensed. Haha...
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Damn this sorta pisses me off. I understand it but having to wait years to get a translation takes the piss. Also i don't understand how translating volumes that will take them years to do can affect Yen Press if anything it helps them by keeping the current readers happy and intrested and then when the offical releases come the chances are people will still buy them simply to own a physical copy... Also if i had to wait 5+ years to wait for these offical releases of the later volumes chances are i've moved on to another LN because i'm sick of waiting.
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Yen Press is currently the best light novel publisher in the English-language market, so picking up Sword Art Online and Accel World is a worthy investment for them. Novels are not manga and require greater quality control in translation across the entire series.

I still purchase the Book Girl, Haruhi Suzumiya, and Spice & Wolf novels from them. Publication may be slow, but it's actually just about right for novels because depending on my mood I can take from two days to two months to read one book.

Publishing an entire series in one go requires a lot of upfront cost, and publishers don't really operate with big enough margins these days to warrant that much early investment. By releasing one book at a time, they have time to recuperate costs before proceeding work on the next volume. Would you rather read the translation that is done carefully or done rushed with the potential for glaring mistakes?
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Considering that there are new fan translations of Spice and Wolf available if you pay for them. I doubt this means that the fan translations of these series are going to die and considering SAO is more popular as a LN than Spice and Wolf ever was. So I guess there would be translations available for newer volumes also.

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I correct myself. I just noticed that all the fan translated novels are available for free.
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This is kind of old news now.

But anyway, as someone who wants to see the English language light novel market be successful and grow, it's extremely disheartening and even depressing to see people actually complaining about a series getting licensed.

It's not as though YP do a bad job with the translations...
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Yen Press has asked Baka Tsuki to remove the fan translations of the novels when they publish the first volume in 2014. These new translated light novels however, will take some time (maybe years) until they catch up to their Japanese counterparts.

Even if they didn't ask bakatsuki, IIRC bakatsuki has a policy to remove from their website anything which has been licensed in english country, so they would have put it down anyway.
Also, for anyone pissed of that they won't be able to read the next volumes before years because of this : I think it's a good thing that more light novels are licensed in english. The more there are and the more they work, the more you'll have chance to see other labels starting to publish some as well. In France, a few tries were made to publish LN, they all failed very quickly. Our manga publishers are doing quite a well and licensing a lot of titles, but there was no public for the light novels it seems.



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And while I haven't checked the release date and price of AW yet, the 1st volumes of SAO manga and LN are available. The manga will be out on March 25 and costs US$20. The LN will be out on April 22 and costs US$13.

Wait. What with those ridiculous prices? US$20 for a manga volume? US$13 for an LN volume? Are the price for books that high in US?
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And while I haven't checked the release date and price of AW yet, the 1st volumes of SAO manga and LN are available. The manga will be out on March 25 and costs US$20. The LN will be out on April 22 and costs US$13.

Wait. What with those ridiculous prices? US$20 for a manga volume? US$13 for an LN volume? Are the price for books that high in US?


The manga is 2 volumes in one. $13 is higher than previous LN releases but not significantly so.
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I'm already aware of this since, but i can't help but to get a little... very sad that the fan-translators must be removed from BT, I've been reading SAO fan-translate from long ago and I can't help but to feel disappointed.

Accel World wasn't fully translated buttt.

I heard the currently ongoing volume, which is Alicization Dividing, would probably release in 2018. SERIOUSLY? that's like 5 years from now.

and 2014 is not far from now X| dang it.

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If they stick to the 3 month schedule it would be early 2017, about 3.5 years from now.
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i know ill be picking up SAO , magical modica books
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They bought Blood Lad last year. It's already a few volumes published.
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If they will release in their slow pace, then we will see the 14th volume probably in 2022! Yay!
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Mm interesting news.

So I'm guessing those fan translations from Baka Tsuki will be removed soon starting next year. But yeah, it will take quite awhile to catch up to the volumes.


Yes.
Yen press usually release 2/3 volumes a year for a given series so it'll take time for them to reach the Alicization arc.

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Anyways, it will come down to if Yen press decide to mess up with the original cover.


They stopped doing that, they now are publishing the novels with their original covers.

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What happen to SnS localisation?


SnS was licensed by Viz Media which stopped to publish it. They still own the right for it so it is still illegal to translate it.

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When the fuck is Monogatari going to get licensed *frustrated*


Nisio is somehow 'clever' in his writing, it's hard to translate his work and retain the same feeling as the original thing. I do hope that someday someone will take it and manage to do a good job though.
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I don't mind paying few bucks to read LNs that are actually being translated by professionals from legal publishing company. Because, TBH i often have a hard time reading most light novel fan translations. The intent of these translations often seems to be conveying the intent of the plot (i.e. so that everyone can understand "what happened"), but there's little apparent thought given to either the voice of the author or the voice of the characters. And this is my biggest problem with them, because most fan translators are not "authors"; they act more like "converters" (like hopefully-smarter versions of Google Translate)
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And because of these assholes I'll never know the ending to SAO. Sigh, can't B-T just block USA IP's...
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So, does it mean their translated light novels will be released world wide??? because right now i don't see any of them available in our bookstores..
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So, does it mean their translated light novels will be released world wide??? because right now i don't see any of them available in our bookstores..

They might digitally release it as well.
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Well, I can't say I am overly thrilled to know that Yen Press is doing more manga (anyone else want to say poor translations to boot.), I still haven't forgiven them for their crap translations on Kuroshitsuji. So, I think I'll stick to the fan translations, if I ever get into these mangas, since they are more accurate.

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And because of these assholes I'll never know the ending to SAO. Sigh, can't B-T just block USA IP's...


Or you could... you know... not be an "asshole" and buy them yourself?

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So, does it mean their translated light novels will be released world wide??? because right now i don't see any of them available in our bookstores..


Bookdepository ships to the Philippines for free.
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If they stick to the 3 month schedule it would be early 2017, about 3.5 years from now.


Sigh the problem is i don't have the kind of dedication to wait alittle over 3years to read the next volumes, I do like more accurate translations but that doesn't mean its worth a wait of 3years!

I know there is always the option to just buy the releases as they come out and just reread them but its not like there is any certainty that the entire series will get translated and in that case i'll end up with a incomplete set of books and if there is one thing i hate its buying into a series and not being able to finnish it.

I'd love to see japanese LN's more in the western market but for me personally i don't see why they don't follow newer stuff or on the flip side publish stuff that has already finnished in japan rather than following a series that is at best 3/4 complete and can't guarente a full translation into english because they don't know wether they will profit from translating them into english or not.
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its not like there is any certainty that the entire series will get translated and in that case i'll end up with a incomplete set of books and if there is one thing i hate its buying into a series and not being able to finnish it.


Have Yen Press ever failed to complete something they started? Because I can't think of any time they've done that (excluding not releasing spin offs/side stories which they probably never wanted in the first place). And they're part of one of the largest and most successful publishing companies in the world (particularly with regards to modern fiction), so I think it's fairly unlikely that they would stop as a result of going out of business. Personally, I have about as much confidence as is realistically possible that they will release the whole series.

I'd love to see japanese LN's more in the western market but for me personally i don't see why they don't follow newer stuff


Because there isn't enough demand for it - people don't know about that stuff for the most part. SAO/AW probably weren't viable before last year's anime release either. Yes, they can then aim it out at new fans, but the majority of the market comes from the people who saw the anime and want to own the books.
So "newer" comes to mean "things that got hugely popular anime adaptations faster". Then again, stuff like OreGairu wasn't anywhere near as successful as SAO/AW, and even that isn't exactly short. Plus SAO/AW also has the advantage of both being by the same author and even sort of in the same universe - so people who read one series will most likely look into the other. It's the perfect opportunity for them, really.

or on the flip side publish stuff that has already finnished in japan rather than following a series that is at best 3/4 complete and can't guarente a full translation into english because they don't know wether they will profit from translating them into english or not.


It's been done before - most of what Seven Seas licensed back when they were getting LNs were short finished series. The problem there is that they are often less popular, anime adaptations tend to cover more of the series so people don't buy to find out what happens next (assuming that there is a recent adaptation when it is licensed - if there isn't then the series will likely have lost most of its popularity, if it ever had it to begin with) and if people have already completed a series from fan translations then they are a lot less likely to buy the books as well.
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I wanted to at least finish the Alicization arc :-(. Well whatever
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Imagine To Aru Majutsu no Index suddenly gets picked up by Yen Press. *shudders*

That would be crazy. But like belatkuro said, it's so long a series with so many side stories that it's too much of a risk for ANYONE who wants to localize it. Remember what happened to Shakugan no Shana. While I, personally, would buy it, I doubt that publication of the series would last more than 6 volumes in the US before it stops for To Aru.

With regards to SAO and AW...I lost interest in those a long time ago.

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Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon needs to get licensed.
Will never happen though

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Horizon getting licensed. Haha...
Have you seen how big those books are?


I know :(
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