| I couldn't care less if anime guys/girls actually are gay, it's just ... obnoxious that yaoi fan-girls CONSTANTLY make all male characters who are attractive gay for each other and you really don't see if half as much with yuri fanguys or fangirls. It's like, any anime or movie or really anything for that matter that panders to girls (either from a sexual factor (OMG HOT GUYS) or a story that girls can get into (strong heroine or just a cool story with either gender as main, but not a zillion girls with giant tits as blatant fan-service) has to be the guys are totally gay (it's stated that they're gay or they act gay). Again, I have zero problem if they're actually gay and it's stated in the media form they're presented in, but why the hell is it that every attractive guy or pair of guys HAVE to be gay? Seriously, not every attractive female is gay, so why do guys get this kind of treatment? And more to the point, this allows both guys to pronounce something as "Gaaaaay" and yaoi girls to squee over.... It's like a backhanded slap to the characters that are either clearly not gay or don't even show interest. I just don't get why if something is going to be fan-service or otherwise directed towards a female audience that they guys are gay by default by both guys (generalization, I know not ALL guys do this, but the most outspoken ones do) hating it because females get something for them and girls. It just bugs me that the whole yaoi thing seems to almost be a defense reaction so that guys won't hate on their shows and will ignore it instead because they can take solace that every attractive guy is gay. No one knows if the characters in Free! are gay (if anything Haru seems to be uninterested entirely and maybe even Asexual) It feels like yaoi in general is so popular because who ever is shipping the guys together is basically thinking "I'll take that one and that one and now they're mine because they weren't paired with any girls" as opposed to actually being about homosexual relationships. Meaning, the whole thing is more of a confusing (to me anyway) straight female based fantasy projected on two or more attractive males. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it just seems like this is the case, since guys do the same thing when they tend to like lesbian pairings. IE the person is only straight for the wish-fulfillment of the viewer and gay the rest of the time. Kinda like the bad rep lesbian's get from lots of straight guys with "You're too hot to actually not be attracted to men" meaning, many guys along this vein don't think lesbian's actually exist and that they're just bi. It's kind of insulting to me. I know yaoi isn't as well, sexist in some senses, but often it feels no different. Examples of characters that are either clearly not gay, or even if they are, are paired up with people that they'd never go for or in reality it's never revealed what their preference is and there is no obvious homoerotiscim between said pairs. Izaya/Shizuo - They HATE each other. It's even stated that Shizuo just wants Izaya to leave him alone and Izaya has a complex with him because he views him as less then human L and Light - They're at complete odds with each other. Yes, the symbolic feet cleaning scene. Still it's not like they were even close to each others faces. Light does not care what happens to L he only wants to destroy him. The entire cast of Hetalia - Just because it's a mostly male cast, they're all gay now? I'm gonna say that any time there is a mostly female cast. They're all lesbian, because logic. Naruto - Plenty of females and plenty of guys yet because a rather one sided bromance exists, they're totally gay. Wut? Hasn't Naruto been shown to be probably straight (or at least bi) more then 20+ times in the series? Yes he kissed Sasuke, because fan service and because it was hilarious. That doesn't equal Naruto gay. Girls and guys can kiss the same sex and not be gay. They're more likely to be bi, sure, but plenty of real life people have experimented to find out what they are. I get that shipping is to each their own, but holy hell the yaoi fandom dominates absolutely every single anime that has attractive males no matter what either obvious or totally ambiguous sexuality they have been shown to portray. Sorry, lots of ranting. I'm just incredibly sick of hearing "GAY" from both genders whenever a anime/manga/movie or anything comes out that has attractive males and I wonder what the thinking behind girls who like the idea of gay men is. Maybe I have a craptastic gaydar, but there were very few if any moments that I felt that these characters are remotely gay or that their sexual preference was even alluded to. What do you guys think? Can anyone explain why yaoi comes across this way? Or yaoi fan-girls, can you explain why you like yaoi? I'm so confused on it. I don't hate it, but I don't get it either and sometimes find it offensive towards genuine homosexual relationships. |
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| tl;dr haha but yeah, recently I was read love stage. first time reading BL stuff (doesnt feel like it tho since main guy is a like trap). but yeah I saw unnecessary gay moments in their like wtf, how, when, what ? |
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| Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? |
| Ooo, what a lovely tea party. |
| It makes sense if you don't think about it. |
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| Why are ecchi anime overloaded with tits and panty shots? Why do harems have so many girls falling for one guy for no reason? Eckilsax said: Basically this.Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? |
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| For the same reason why yuri fans have to ship probably-straight girls together. Because it appeals to them. Duh. Besides, shipping fictional characters in general is pretty stupid tbh. Aluysione said: Girls and guys can kiss the same sex and not be gay But it usually means they are, because otherwise they wouldn't kiss someone of the same sex. |
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Eckilsax said: why?Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? |
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Eckilsax said: Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? He's complaining about yaoi fangirls pairing characters from anime that have no yaoi at all, not actual yaoi anime or manga. He listed some examples. Kuroko no Basket would be another example. |
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Kalypze said: Eckilsax said: Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? He's complaining about yaoi fangirls pairing characters from anime that have no yaoi at all, not actual yaoi anime or manga. He listed some examples. Kuroko no Basket would be another example. Again, it's obvious. They fantasize about them and I guess gay people turn them on. |
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Kalypze said: Eckilsax said: Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? He's complaining about yaoi fangirls pairing characters from anime that have no yaoi at all, not actual yaoi anime or manga. He listed some examples. Kuroko no Basket would be another example. Well the title is very misleading then. I see what he's saying now, he's talking about fictional yaoi pairings. Who really gives a shit? Stop talking to so many yaoi-fangirls then. |
| Ooo, what a lovely tea party. |
Eckilsax said: Uhh, because the target audience for yaoi mainly wants to see yaoi content? Why do characters keep fucking in hentai? But he's talking about fangirls shiping straight dudes from any anime. Like the dudes from Death Note. What I believe the OP is trying to say is: Why fangirls want to turn all guys into gays? And well, I don't fucking know why either. |
| Everyone has their own reasons for pairing two guys together. Maybe they think the guys look hot together or would make a good couple. Why do you even need an explanation? It's just pairing fictional characters they're not hurting anyone. |
| Why is this even a question? Shipping is fun. It doesn't have to agree with what's canon. |
CronaTheWeapon said: Why is this even a question? Shipping is fun. It doesn't have to agree with what's canon. how is shipping fun?is this like a girl thing?see this is why you don't see many womens in the jobs areas that require a brain |
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renders said: CronaTheWeapon said: Why is this even a question? Shipping is fun. It doesn't have to agree with what's canon. how is shipping fun?is this like a girl thing?see this is why you don't see many womens in the jobs areas that require a brain Hey, hey, hey...getting a little sexist there. |
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Cupquake said: renders said: CronaTheWeapon said: Why is this even a question? Shipping is fun. It doesn't have to agree with what's canon. how is shipping fun?is this like a girl thing?see this is why you don't see many womens in the jobs areas that require a brain Hey, hey, hey...getting a little sexist there. I just tell them like I see them I can go deeper but then I would really sound sexist |
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| Ooo, what a lovely tea party. |
renders said: Cupquake said: renders said: CronaTheWeapon said: Why is this even a question? Shipping is fun. It doesn't have to agree with what's canon. how is shipping fun?is this like a girl thing?see this is why you don't see many womens in the jobs areas that require a brain Hey, hey, hey...getting a little sexist there. I just tell them like I see them I can go deeper but then I would really sound sexist So you took Shipping is fun, ran with it and somehow got to all women are dumb. I feel like you're just looking for an excuse to be a sexist prick, here. |
CronaTheWeapon said: renders said: Cupquake said: renders said: CronaTheWeapon said: Why is this even a question? Shipping is fun. It doesn't have to agree with what's canon. how is shipping fun?is this like a girl thing?see this is why you don't see many womens in the jobs areas that require a brain Hey, hey, hey...getting a little sexist there. I just tell them like I see them I can go deeper but then I would really sound sexist So you took Shipping is fun, ran with it and somehow got to all women are dumb. I feel like you're just looking for an excuse to be a sexist prick, here. conflict of interests |
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| Someone needs to learn how to get to the point, I nearly tl;dr that post. Anyway, people will ship what they want. There are plenty of yaoi and yuri ships of officially straight characters, but it's not like any of those affect the show for you. |
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kstadtfeld said: Tell that to male cosplayers dressed as certain characters who get mobbed or harassed by fangirls at cons.Why do you even need an explanation? It's just pairing fictional characters they're not hurting anyone. |
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Zalis said: kstadtfeld said: Tell that to male cosplayers dressed as certain characters who get mobbed or harassed by fangirls at cons.Why do you even need an explanation? It's just pairing fictional characters they're not hurting anyone. Part of it is their fault for 1. Dressing like that and 2. Not expecting them to get harassed. |
cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Goryo said: cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? Guys, enough with the rhetorical questions. I think we got enough of them in the first page. |
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Cupquake said: Goryo said: cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? Guys, enough with the rhetorical questions. I think we got enough of them in the first page. Why are you so lame? |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Goryo said: Cupquake said: Goryo said: cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? Guys, enough with the rhetorical questions. I think we got enough of them in the first page. Why are you so lame? Because I broke my leg. You don't have to rub it in. |
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Cupquake said: Goryo said: Cupquake said: Goryo said: cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? Guys, enough with the rhetorical questions. I think we got enough of them in the first page. Why are you so lame? Because I broke my leg. You don't have to rub it in. Why are you trying to guilt trip me? |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Goryo said: Cupquake said: Goryo said: Cupquake said: Goryo said: cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? Guys, enough with the rhetorical questions. I think we got enough of them in the first page. Why are you so lame? Because I broke my leg. You don't have to rub it in. Why are you trying to guilt trip me? Wait, do you not get it? |
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Cupquake said: Goryo said: Cupquake said: Goryo said: Cupquake said: Goryo said: cyst said: Why are there always shootouts and fights in action movies? Why are comedies so hellbent on making the audience laugh? Why are Yaoi themed anime so full of lesbians? Guys, enough with the rhetorical questions. I think we got enough of them in the first page. Why are you so lame? Because I broke my leg. You don't have to rub it in. Why are you trying to guilt trip me? Wait, do you not get it? Why do you not get that I get it? |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Zalis said: kstadtfeld said: Tell that to male cosplayers dressed as certain characters who get mobbed or harassed by fangirls at cons.Why do you even need an explanation? It's just pairing fictional characters they're not hurting anyone. I'm not going to justify that. I'll fangirl on my own, without harassing anyone. If someone has a problem with that well that's beyond my control. |
| You might want to look up the word fujoshi. |
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| This feels more like a topic about shipping rather than yaoi/yuri itself... I do agree that shipping is stupid, however. |
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| You don't have to be a girl to pair two Anime males who are not considered homosexual. I'll shamelessly admit I did it sometimes, so what? It's not as bad as you're making it out to be, and to each his own, right? |
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MEanimaniac1 said: You might want to look up the word fujoshi. No regrets. |
CronaTheWeapon said: MEanimaniac1 said: You might want to look up the word fujoshi. No regrets. He was a gentle man *sobs* Poor man! |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
parfaited said: LOLed on this.Aluysione said: you really don't see if half as much with yuri fanguys It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. Look people can ship whoever they want. Fandoms will always be fandoms. Nothing can be done to stop it. |
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parfaited said: Nothing wrong with rubbing one out every once in a while ;)Aluysione said: you really don't see if half as much with yuri fanguys It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. |
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zdude18 said: parfaited said: Nothing wrong with rubbing one out every once in a while ;)Aluysione said: you really don't see if half as much with yuri fanguys It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. It's fangirls like her that shove otakus into the "closet" OT I find that it's fine for people to like what they like, but Yaoi is meant for girls to watch. That's the target audience, so it's not strange for guys to think that it's weird/bad/strange/gay It's just because we're not the target audience. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: zdude18 said: parfaited said: Nothing wrong with rubbing one out every once in a while ;)Aluysione said: you really don't see if half as much with yuri fanguys It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. It's fangirls like her that shove otakus into the "closet" OT I find that it's fine for people to like what they like, but Yaoi is meant for girls to watch. That's the target audience, so it's not strange for guys to think that it's weird/bad/strange/gay It's just because we're not the target audience. According to that logic girls should think yuri is weird/bad/strange/lesbian but I enjoy it as much as yaoi. |
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MEanimaniac1 said: YandereTheEmo said: zdude18 said: parfaited said: Nothing wrong with rubbing one out every once in a while ;)Aluysione said: you really don't see if half as much with yuri fanguys It's because the fanguys are too busy fapping. It's fangirls like her that shove otakus into the "closet" OT I find that it's fine for people to like what they like, but Yaoi is meant for girls to watch. That's the target audience, so it's not strange for guys to think that it's weird/bad/strange/gay It's just because we're not the target audience. According to that logic girls should think yuri is weird/bad/strange/lesbian but I enjoy it as much as yaoi. Did I ever say that every guy/girl would dislike the things targeted at them? That was not my intention. I was just saying that it's not strange to dislike a genre/find it strange if you're not in the target audience. I didn't mean to say that everyone who isn't in the target audience would dislike it, or that everyone of the opposite gender would find it strange or anything. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
mino-chaan said: Edefrem said: Someone needs to learn how to get to the point, I nearly tl;dr that post. Anyway, people will ship what they want. There are plenty of yaoi and yuri ships of officially straight characters, but it's not like any of those affect the show for you. Actually it might. I mean, what if the maker of the show decides to make them gay, just for the fanservice. ): I really can't see this happening. |
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| What the heck do you mean? That's what Yaoi is. |
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