What is the worth of Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa
It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list.
18.2%
2
It is too unremarkable to be on on either of our lists.
63.6%
7
It is vastly overrated and deserves to be on our Relations list.
0.0%
0
I haven't watched this movie because I bet it does that Hayao thing wherein woman can make their hair flutter without wind.
18.2%
2
11 votes
| Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa is now up for vote. Decide if it will find the riches of the flying island called Enlightenment or if it will chased by Mark Hamill in the Relations. RULES: 1. You can only vote for a title if you've finished watching/reading it. You must’ve read or watched at least 60% of the published content for unfinished titles. There might be exceptions for very long finished titles – they are decided on a case by case basis, but usually amount to more than half of the published content. 2. Write your vote at the very top of your comment. 3. Below your vote, give a substantial explanation to back it up. It doesn't have to be lengthy; it just needs to cover the points you want to make. 4. If you have only read/watched the adaption/source material of the respective nominee, please state so in your post. 5. It will take a minimum of 5 votes for either Enlightenment or Relations to make it into any of the lists as an anime (3 votes for manga). If it fails to reach that, it will be deemed Unremarkable. 6. The votes for Enlightenment will have to outnumber the votes for Unremarkable and Relations for it to be included in our list; the same goes for Relations. If it fails to reach that, it will be deemed Unremarkable. 7. Behave yourself. We accept discussions and debate, not flaming and incoherent fanboy/fangirl behavior. 8. The fate of the poll will lie in the hands of the officers if it turns out that there are more first time voters than regulars or the series cannot be gauged by both voting and discussions. This polling process will last 7 days. BEGIN!!!!!!!! |
Ducat_RevelAug 25, 2013 7:39 PM
| Option 2 After rethinking my vote, I realized that I don't dislike this film as much as I did while watching it. It's enjoyable (at least for kids) and that should count for something. But that doesn't mean its without fault. In fact, it's got a lot of faults. Plot: This movie has two halves, a fun half, and a preachy half. It starts out fun but then flings around heavy-handed, idealistic, didactic themes. There's a lot of Miyazaki's usual anti-war/pro-environmental sentiments that are repeated over and over (almost as much as Nausicaa.) This stand is supported with the most flat binary opposition: good vs evil. The nice and silly people are good, and the mean people are evil. That aside, there's not much to find in the story. It's a very average plot with a really irritating ending. It moves linearly with convenient exposition-tasked old men and oddly timed back stories and flash backs . The villain is a cliche, and the ending negates the anti-destruction theme. Characters: Pazu - He's a bit of a hypocrite, condemning the military when they were plundering the floating castle, but rejoicing with the pirates and Sheeta when they pocketed loot. Being didactic is not new to Miyazaki, but at least it's usually consistent. The contradictions and irregularities to his messages in this film were just too hard to overlook. Sheeta - Same as Pazu. She's a hypocrite for negating the anti-destruction sentiments of the film. Lacks consistency. The development of her character was also very artificial. She shifts from crying a lot to tossing away her previous beliefs at the writer's convenience. Muska - Flat villain. He's the pure evil villain which only serves to enforce the binary between good and evil. Plus that plot twist in the ending concerning him was poorly established. The Pirates - Fun but stupid. Also, they have a thing for Sheeta. Ain't that a bit creepy? They're not actually bad characters. I just wanted to mention them. Overall, this anime has nothing to offer besides being fun. An enlightening kid's movie, imo, should be one that a kid could look back at years later and think, "Wow. It's actually really meaningful." It has to be able to entertain the kid without sacrificing any bit of quality. I don't think Laputa achieved this. Option 2. |
Ducat_RevelAug 25, 2013 12:23 PM
| Option 2 Laputa doesn't really go further than being an entertaining movie for a young audience. There is nothing remotely groundbreaking or particularly well-written or enlightening about its components besides the Animation. |
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| Option 2 While being a very well made movie that does a lot of things right in many regards, Laputa is far from being anything truly enlightening, either for making a great mark in the anime history, or for it's quality alone. It's story, while well directed and written, isn't something you can call deep and meaningful or a landmark for writing in Japanese animation, specially consider this is a movie directed by Miyazaki, who made such gems as Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, or even going way back in time, Castle of Cagliostro. And it's characters, while well rounded for a simple family film, don't come close to some of anime's greatest characters, and even in simple films such as these, it's not hard to encounter character that vastly surpass those of Laputa. Overall, a pretty enjoyable movie, but a landmark in japanese animation? Far from it. |
| Option 2 - It is too unremarkable to be on on either of our lists While a great film and imo one of Ghibli's best, it is not something I would consider to be enlightening. It really is good in basically every department, writing, visuals, audio. But nothing in the movie brings it past just being very entertaining. Compared to Nausicaa, Grave of the Fireflies, Princess Mononoke, other stuff generally regarded as top notch Ghibli, it is kind of left in the dust. It doesn't evoke any profound emotions or have hugely memorable scenes. The characters are very generic and flat (they get the job done well enough, but again, nothing crazy good here). There is a message here but it doesn't end up resonating with you for days like Grave of the Fireflies. The animation is consistently great and probably the highlight of the film, but many other films of and around this era have animation just as good but writing and other content that leaves a bigger impact and puts them well above it. Easy to recommend this movie, but I would not call it an enlightening experience. |
| Option 1 Well, this is a tricky one. Given how much of a fan of this movie I am, or at least have been (it's been four years since I watched it), I would consider it enlightening alone due to what it represents for me; as a classic model of adventure, yes, but also as an inspirational work that follows the path Miyazaki has built in his whole career. However I guess you are right in your comments, this movie doesn't develop its characters and message deeply... ...which is the reason why I have decided to vote Option 1. I don't know the criterion that this club would like to follow for enlightenment, but certainly I'd hope it not to be genre-specific. While I agree with the comments about the lack of in depth development on the events and characters, this is also an inherent characteristic of a movie about adventure and discovery; the setting and the originality of the scenarios take a prevailing position while the rest of the elements are kind of left behind. Our connection with the characters is not through their acts but through their experiences. I agree that this doesn't have the social interpretations of Grave of the fireflies, or the character development of Nausicaa, but on the other hand these films don't quite have the same sense of discovery this one has. And making a good, classic adventure work that emphasizes on this feeling is nothing easy. Of course, that doesn't mean it has to work well on anybody, but given how much it manages to evoke on me, I can only find this one enlightenment-worthy and a major piece in its genre. |
jal90Aug 24, 2013 5:02 AM
| "Reserved spots" are no longer allowed. Please edit your votes today. I will be deleting any of these tomorrow. |
| Option 1 - It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list. Laputa is an example of beauty and power through simplicity. It's a tale a thousand times told, and far from original, but taking a well-trodden path doesn't make the walk any less pleasant. This movie exudes that special element Ghibli films seem to hold dear to them, and is one of the finest examples of the Miyazaki Magic to date. The charm, fantasy, and whimsical nature of this film cements itself as a classic children film that is sure to be enjoyed for as long as we watch movies. Something need not appear in a blaze of commotion to catch the eye of a child, and sometimes it is the quiet things that grab hold of them. That's not to say that Laputa is bland or dull. It is easily one of the funnier Ghibli films in terms of straight comedy. It has fight scenes straight out of Popeye even. But at it's core it is a film of nature, adventure, and the brimming power that dwells within us. It's a magical experience, with captivating visuals and a musical score that remains etched deep within the hearts and minds of those who let themselves get lost in the world of Laputa. Now I mentioned nature, and it's true that it appears in this film, just like many of Miyazaki's works. However, I find it to be handled so much more skillfully in Laputa than in most other integrations. There is no "humans are evil themes", or "quick, right yourselves before the planet is doomed!" messages. It's simply a touch on the shoulder, and a reminder that we have a responsibility to care for this world and its natural treasures. Some of Miyazaki's other films come off as ham-fisted in comparison. That being said, it's not stellar in every category, and this mostly comes true in the characters. Sheeta and Pazu aren't these marvelous entities written in diamond dust on gold plates. They won't be used as character studies when people look back at the masterpieces of Japan. But you know what? They aren't that bad either. They hold personality, actually act human, and are decent staples to hold the film together. They are easy to care for, and that's pretty important when it comes to children's films. We don't need character depth you can swim in, but enough is there to run your fingers through the current, and catch a reflection of yourself in. I know that this poll is all but set, and it's a shame to see such a marvelous movie turned away from the Enlightenment List. In any case, I bid you adieu, and leave you with the the Destruction of Laputa to embrace. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRNqLRL1_RY Since the linking code is messed up right now. |
ForgoneRealityAug 25, 2013 1:13 PM
| With 2 votes for Enlightenment and 4 votes for Unremarkable, I draw this poll to a close. Thank you for voting! Note: I didn't count Valkyrion's vote because it lacked a supporting argument. |
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