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May 8, 2013 11:10 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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She's still so scared ;.;

All dem feels this episode. I also liked the beautiful visuals of this episode. Oh I don't think Yogi needs to apologize for anything though :p he was trying at least.

Kind of a cute ending I guess.


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This is the ep. that I guessed that the twin would appear, but it turns out to be the final ep. for Yotaka (forgot that there's also flashback).

lol @ Kiichi (just saw the list that KitaEri also voiced young Gareki?). I never noticed how funny she is when reading the manga, though.

Did I miss that part in manga? They said they made the ship that young Gareki was riding fall?
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May 9, 2013 10:39 PM
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This episode felt a little slow, not that it's bad or anything :) Nice seeing Hirato's powers. I also liked seeing Tsubame's determined look, good thing she found out that Gareki didn't leave them for nothing. The episode was mostly dark, but at the end, the brightness was kind of a relief from the first part of the episode and the last episode as well. Also, Jiki <3
May 9, 2013 11:14 PM
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good episode.
May 10, 2013 12:05 AM
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Good adaption. One of the rare occasions where anime is better than manga.
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I forgot why Gareki was targeted by the Varuga's hmmmm hope they explain all that later i dont wanna read back all those volumes lolllll

It was nice this episode, it does felt a bit slow though... but still liking how this is turning out atm ^^

Barion-Zara said:
Good adaption. One of the rare occasions where anime is better than manga.


I actually can't agree more with this haha
May 10, 2013 12:36 AM
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pretty good episode. so the reason gareki got into bad business was to pay for her grandpa? correct me if im wrong.
well seems like that arc is over.. hope to get more information soon on the ship they blew up that gareki was on
May 10, 2013 1:49 AM
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Maan so many Tsukitachi feels, I hope he will be appearing more often in the anime :3
The scenes with him and Hirato are always awesome :) great chemistry.

tsubasalover said:
Did I miss that part in manga? They said they made the ship that young Gareki was riding fall?

I can't seem to remember it either :s
May 10, 2013 2:17 AM
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Nice episode. I don't like Kiichi though.
May 10, 2013 2:32 AM
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I always enjoy this. ┐(‘~`)┌



Excellent. A new dark haired megane to add to my ~similar looking~ collection. Gotta catch them all!
May 10, 2013 3:35 AM

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Wow Hirato serious boss mode on. :O

Dat smile at the end lmao.
May 10, 2013 4:02 AM
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Gareki is a nice personality
May 10, 2013 4:26 AM

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Kiichi! :D
also Hirato's "girls" look cute :3
May 10, 2013 5:24 AM

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Hirato is to be feared...

tsubasalover said:

Did I miss that part in manga? They said they made the ship that young Gareki was riding fall?


It's in the manga. I can't remember which chapter, though. Circus sank the ship that Gareki was on as a child because Circus discovered that the kids were eating food that was tainted with Varuga cells. Gareki never ate the food because the other kids took it from him. Those kids were bullying him because he was smaller, but by stealing his food, they actually saved his life.

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I like it..but not as much as before..This show has become a yaoi-ish..
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Villetta_Nu said:


tsubasalover said:

Did I miss that part in manga? They said they made the ship that young Gareki was riding fall?


It's in the manga. I can't remember which chapter, though. Circus sank the ship that Gareki was on as a child because Circus discovered that the kids were eating food that was tainted with Varuga cells. Gareki never ate the food because the other kids took it from him. Those kids were bullying him because he was smaller, but by stealing his food, they actually saved his life.

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Thank you for reminding me. I think I somehow remember now that manga was expressed differently.
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GAREKIIIII!!! THE FEELS :'C ; A ; MY BABY IT'S GONNA BE ALRIGHTTTTT :) Wah Gareki's so good and ah he's so nice to pay ah I love youuu

May 10, 2013 8:45 AM
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Gareki and Tsubame:
LET ME HUG YOU! Console you, tell you it's ok. The poor darlings. And Gareki....<3 <3 <3 </3 </3 I feel so sad for him.
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May 10, 2013 8:56 AM

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A little better than the preious episodes . Glad that the arc ended , now I want more action.
May 10, 2013 10:34 AM

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even though Gareki was always away from Tsubame and the others he was always helping them out T-T
May 10, 2013 10:51 AM

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Circus, destroy Kafka! Do it mang.

An angsty Gareki is a sexy Gareki.

I'm glad we get some info about Gareki's past + we see a glimpse (I'm guessing) of Kafka organization/old dude with cigar.

On to the next arc...
May 10, 2013 1:54 PM

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New character Kichi!!! Gareki was the one who helped with the hospital bills. He only left them to protect them TwT. Tsubame is determined to help Circus in anyway. Whoa Kafka scene.
May 10, 2013 2:28 PM

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Now i love it even more! This was a great episode, it explained the situation in details and there was some very touching moments!
May 10, 2013 4:24 PM

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Respect for Gareki, it was a nice arc.
May 10, 2013 4:50 PM

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Nice way to end this arc. And wow, so Gareki was the one who was secretly paying the bills. What a great guy. Good to see Tsubame determined like that at the end as well.
May 10, 2013 7:39 PM

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This ep was a improvement from the last ones, wonder what will/did happen to Tsubame. hmm.
May 11, 2013 3:07 AM

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Quite an emotional episode!!!

The loss of Yotaka has left everyone in an emotionless state but at least the Varuga man was settled by the First and Second Class team of Circus. We also get to see that Gareki was the one who was responsible for part of the fees for Tsubame's Grandpa and now we see that Tsubame wishes to join Circus and make use for the remaining time of her life.

Looking forward to see what happens in the next episode!!

5/5



May 11, 2013 8:26 AM

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The best part was when she found out Gareki was paying the hospital bill. Some of the newly introduced members of circus do not appear to be good people. Good episode I wonder what's up next.
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May 11, 2013 10:42 AM

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With the anime's pace, I wonder if we'll get to Yogi's past arc anytime soon?

May 11, 2013 10:49 AM

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I felt a little uncomfortable to notice that a big part of the episode was in darkness. Don't know why. I can't avoid shipping Gareki and Nai, even they had not much interactions in this episode.


May 11, 2013 1:20 PM

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It was so slow...
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UtsukushiiYume said:
With the anime's pace, I wonder if we'll get to Yogi's past arc anytime soon?



No. Yogi's arc will never be reached. Those guys are from chapter 18.

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May 11, 2013 6:37 PM

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I just don't know about this series. As none of the episodes in this series thus far made me actually like any of the Circus members, this one actually made me hate them.

They are your classic example of your "ends justify the means" group, which I wouldn't mind if they would actually show a bit of conscience for all the lives they are destroying in the name of justice! I mean, they just killed an innocent victim, and even though it was necessary, they could at least show some feeling instead of completely acting as if it didn't matter! At this point, they actually seem just as bad as Kafka to me and even Yogi dropped a peg in my book.

It took me forever to get to this episode because the plot feels like its going nowhere, and the only interesting characters that I actually want to know more about is Nai (who actually turned out to be adorable), Gareki (who's your tough cookie with a heart of gold), and Karoku (who has a bit of mystery to him).

Kafka AND Circus can go to Hell for all I care.
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An alright episode this time
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Irenesharda said:
I just don't know about this series. As none of the episodes in this series thus far made me actually like any of the Circus members, this one actually made me hate them.

They are your classic example of your "ends justify the means" group, which I wouldn't mind if they would actually show a bit of conscience for all the lives they are destroying in the name of justice! I mean, they just killed an innocent victim, and even though it was necessary, they could at least show some feeling instead of completely acting as if it didn't matter! At this point, they actually seem just as bad as Kafka to me and even Yogi dropped a peg in my book.

It took me forever to get to this episode because the plot feels like its going nowhere, and the only interesting characters that I actually want to know more about is Nai (who actually turned out to be adorable), Gareki (who's your tough cookie with a heart of gold), and Karoku (who has a bit of mystery to him).

Kafka AND Circus can go to Hell for all I care.


Yogi was utterly broken, he didn't act like if it was nothing. He felt it as much as Gareki, unfortunately that is not well shown in the anime. Yogi is so powerful that could have annihilated Yotaka if he wanted to, instead he decided to not use his full power and let himself be wounded.
If you read the manga, you would see that Circus second ship is not heartless as it seems. Hirato is cold and professional 99% of times, but there are exceptions, where he actually shows something.
Also why do you think he was the one killing Yotaka? Gareki was already ready to kill him and he was almost reaching him. The reason why Hirato killed Yotaka first, was to prevent Gareki from suffering of guilt for all his life and having the blood of his brother in his hands. Hirato was there watching for a long time before he decided to interfere. Gareki wouldn't be able to live with the guilt, Hirato did it for him. Hirato and Tsukitachi are superiors and have have experienced this type of situations over and over. Its like you're a nurse in a hospital and you see people dying everyday, if you do see it during 10 years, you'll stop crying and become emotionally cold to be able to perform your job with efficiency, but that does not mean you don't care.

Circus can be "cold" but it has protected hundreds of human lives. And they-spoiler- took good care of Tsubame. That seems legit to me.
Unfortunately the anime will not cover the most interesting arcs, so the anime will never be more than so-so, because it will cover the "start" of the plot and that´s it. The manga is far superior.
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ワンダーランド花 ♥

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Orulyon said:

Unfortunately the anime will not cover the most interesting arcs, so the anime will never be more than so-so, because it will cover the "start" of the plot and that´s it. The manga is far superior.


There is always chance of a 2nd season (like what happened to Hakkenden) unless they give this season an anime original ending instead of a cliffhanger.
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Okay, so apparently, I'm the only one who gave this a bad rating (I'm not the 1/5 person), awkwardly leaving after reading your comments about the awesomeness, backing out, aaaannddd I'm out. (Seemed boring IMO)
May 12, 2013 7:01 AM
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A bit reminded me of Shiki somehow. I expected the direction to change, but it didn't turn out so dark.
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After this episode, i can't help myself from picturing a Gareki X Hirato pairing ~~

I can't stand the new Circus ppl - the dude who took Tsubame doesn't inspire trust u_u
May 12, 2013 1:44 PM

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Oh that was sad :(

Gareki is such a nice guy.He was paying the bills of the hospital all this time.
May 17, 2013 1:25 AM

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Not liking the pink haired guy with the top hat. I got evil vibes from him.
May 22, 2013 2:05 PM

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Kiichi... I hate you. I hated you within five seconds of you being on my screen.

I can't bring myself to like Tsubame much either. Perhaps because she's always crying. It's justifiable crying, but still...

I liked Hirato's girls.

For an MC, Nai has been very insignificant these last couple of episodes.

Gareki... such a nice boy. He reminds me of someone...
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Tsubame. >___<
Another sad episode for me.
May 29, 2013 6:35 AM

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More interesting characters show up, such as Kiichi, a First Ship member who is annoyingly cute, and Jiki, a member of Circus who praises Kafka.

Who knew Hirato could summon electric girls from his hat?
Man, Captains are so cool.

Gareki and Tsubame's relationship sank down so deep.
But it rises above the surface when Tsubame learned what Gareki did.
I guess Tsubame will join the action now.

It was amazing that Gareki did bad things for a good cause.
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Jun 18, 2013 11:50 AM

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This episode seemed to give back hopes for me to finish the series,
Jun 27, 2013 2:18 PM

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I regret not having watched this for so long, this was a great episode.
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The feels. Oh Gareki, you're such a nice man.

The ending scene with the twins is so touching.
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Jul 24, 2013 9:07 PM

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Yey~ I hope Tsubame-chan returns later in this series as a powerful ally (:

And I wish all is well with the grandfather :'(
Jul 28, 2013 12:13 AM
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that man at the end of the episode looks like Aomine from Kuroko no Basuke.
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Damn that was rather a good but sad episode! Really much feel in this episode especially the last part! Lets see what happens next!
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