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| I love the manga and all. But you all need to remember, that this is still an adaption; the tv series has been taking its own liberties since the beginning, and its not surprising that they'd do so here. That being said, I didn't have a problem at all with the way they changed it up - the events of this arc and Gon's feelings towards Kite seems like it would still make perfect sense to me. The background on Kite may be TV original, but I still enjoyed it. Good introductory episode to my favorite arc. |
| nice start of a new arc lol new op is cool but it doesn't seem like were ever gonna get a new song for it. not sure what the big fuss is about the flashback but it did strike me a bit odd when they just cut it off, not only that seems like everyone who was hyped by this is already turned off by the first episode :s. |
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katsu044 said: nice start of a new arc lol new op is cool but it doesn't seem like were ever gonna get a new song for it. not sure what the big fuss is about the flashback but it did strike me a bit odd when they just cut it off, not only that seems like everyone who was hyped by this is already turned off by the first episode :s. I'm still hyped. Definitely. Aside from that change it was a very solid episode. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Woah woah woah everyone, calm down! This is literally the first time Madhouse has changed anything significantly (and if you're a 1999 purist then you really can't talk in that respect, and I loved the 1999 adaption too). They haven't completely destroyed anything! Give it a chance rather than judging the entire arc based on one episode--everyone was freaking out about Yorknew and look how great that turned out. Sure, it would've been better if they'd just kept Kite and Gon's past the same, but nothing has been ruined. Honestly. You're all overreacting. Overall the atmosphere of this episode was amazing, aaaahhh I got chills! I actually really liked the filler with shooting the ant, it was a little confusing as a manga reader but really creepy and suspenseful, and sets up the feeling of the arc well. They've got the CA atmosphere nailed. I was on the edge of my seat the entire episode, though it was a little slow while they were talking with Kite about stuff we already know for a long time. I think they're going to do this arc really well looking at this. The OP looks amazing, they actually managed to make Departure work for Chimera XD I'm freaking out, I can't wait- Zee530 said: The arc seems so...different from what i've come to expect of the show. The CA arc in general has a very different atmosphere compared to the rest of the series, so that's pretty much right. |
| Great logic guys. Different settings and not being monotone while explaining every bit of transition = disconnected. Nen had alwaya existed. Since episode 3. What about GI? "THIS; my only problem with HxH. While it's true that the arcs are great on their own, these arcs seemed to occur on different universes; the themes for each arc are so unrelated that connecting them as if they are part of one big plot made me felt awkward." Um one piece has aliens, zombies, cyborgs, giant with with no explanation or transition whatsoever between arcs Mikasa said: Can't help but feel One Piece was inspired by HxH here. Wat? What? It's the only explanation. There is no way oda could come up with such a non cliche outcome on his own. |
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mrsticky005 said: Also I'm sincerely hoping the "Ging planned EVERYTHING" is just a big troll by Madhouse. If not just them changing the nature of their relationship, that part in particular was annoying. -_- |
     "There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
fearthebeard85 said: I understand completely why people are upset because of the way Madhouse portrayed the scene but the most important parts were pressed upon which were: Hybridbloodszak said: - Kite saved Gon from Foxbears - Kite is Ging's student who looked for Ging just as Gon is doing now. How were those the most important parts again? I believe Kite meeting Gon and telling him that his father, whom he believed was dead, was actually alive is much more important. I get what you're saying though. Madhouse just took a different approach. |
"There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
| Most important part: mutual knowledge of Ging Not some foxbear shit. |
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| Well that was... not what I was expecting, but by no means it that a bad thing! Hooray for Kite being finally introduced! (In the original he was introduced in episode 1 - hence the flashback of Gon in this ep). Also Stars were introduced much later than in the original as well, which is fine. Much talking this episode, and Ging is possibly the worst father ever, if I'm being honest. But Ging pre-planning exactly what Gon would do is a bit weird... Also the queen is really creepy. But wounded.. I wonder what hurt her? |
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| The planned it all is a troll by madhouse. Don't take it seriously. |
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| Didn't really like this ep, Even though it explained some important stuff it was boring and nothing actually happened (except the killing of an ant hill) |
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| Oh Madhouse, you shithead. They didn't fuck up in episode 76, they fucked up since they didn't show Kaito in the first episode because they had something else in their mind. Whatever they did here is telling their version of Gon and Kaito relationship which isn't bad but inferior to Togashi version. Lets forget - 5/5. |
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| was that guy voiced by char!? |
| If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone |
Razuhiko said: was that guy voiced by char!? Yeah, and Shanks (One Piece) too. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| been waiting for this for how many years looks different from how i imagined it, ok ep i guess |
GinkgoTree said: Anyone noticed that ´Go! next 60´ after the OP It was there throughout Greed Island, I believe. I'm not sure if it was there before. Some one explained what it meant in an earlier episode discussion, I believe. I don't remember what it was. An anniversary type of thing? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Anyway, the changed relationship between Gon and Kaito is bugging me a bit but I guess they'll still be able to bring the central points across. Let's not judge this subplot until we are a few episodes further into the arc and certain events unfolded. However, I really enjoyed the use of music and the atmosphere they're building in this adaption. Later parts of this arc will be very creepy this way, exactly how it is supposed to be. |
LunaApr 28, 2013 1:38 PM
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| What the hell is wrong with you people? This was only the first episode of C.A and you guys are freaking out! Was it necessary to change Gon-Kite background story? No. Did they fuck up everything? Of course not! Calm the fuck down and give it chance, this is only the beginning. By the way, that opening was freaking amazing, I cried out of excitement. |
Rutger said: What the hell is wrong with you people? This was only the first episode of C.A and you guys are freaking out! Was it necessary to change Gon-Kite background story? No. Did they fuck up everything? Of course not! Calm the fuck down and give it chance, this is only the beginning. By the way, that opening was freaking amazing, I cried out of excitement. This, Madhouse took some liberties early on as well and it worked out. They are not Toei, A-1 or Studio Pierrot; they deserve some faith. |
LunaApr 28, 2013 12:35 PM
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| They got the faith after some early fuckups. Now they are ruining the whole canon. So how about no? Also meryem had little to no resemblance and he fulfilled the role togashi wanted him to. So... |
LunaApr 28, 2013 12:34 PM
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| Here's for those who wanted another op song :P |
| I'm not a fan of the changes they made from the manga but hopefully it'll get back on track quickly. |
| The additions were greated and helped flesh out Kite, since in the manga it was basically "Yo, I know you, let's get on with the story!". However... I'm fine with the OP, but that ED will take some time to get used to. |
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| I hate to budge into this argument, but the comparison to One Piece seems to somehow constantly shoehorn itself into discussions; especially shonen titles. Mikasa said: There is no way oda could come up with such a non cliche outcome on his own. Actually, that very concept is a pretty common narrative cliche. I'm cool with One Piece as a shonen and everything, but it's not like it invented the genre. "It's not the goal, but the journey that matters" is an abundantly common theme not only in shonen comics and animation, but stories in general; it hardly reeks of originality that both Gon and Luffy would say something similar, and especially considering they more or less strictly adhere to their character archetypes (the friendly, blissful, straightfoward, and assertive shonen protags). An earlier and equally popular example would be that of Son Goku from Dragonball, who pretty much fits the descriptor to a tee, and became a point of reference for countless shonen since. Bottom line is, the only explanation I can think of regarding this constant comparison is a simple lack of genre-exposure; these tropes and cliches have been used in many instances, and I think it's kind of ignorant to make such a direct comparison to something that's been seen so many times before in so many different titles. That being said, however, one of the reasons I love HxH, with it easily being one of my favorite shonen titles, is that it often defies expectations and deconstructs the conventions that so many battle shonen lazily breeze upon. The Chimera Ant arc is a prime example of HxH doing this at its best, and without giving away any substantial detail, there are many dimensions of emotional and moral complexity explored here that simply aren't done so in the vast majority of its genre-peers. Characters such as Gon, who thus far have adhered so strictly to the black-and-white nature of shonen protagonism, will be challenged with dilemmas that only come in shades of grey, and of which may be incompatible with their prior world-views or beliefs. I'm excited for any non-manga readers' entry into this arc - it's truly my favorite in HxH, and indeed, all of shonen. |
DangerrApr 21, 2013 6:02 AM
| I thought Kite couldn't get more awesome until I heard Ikeda Shuuichi <3 Seeing Knuckle, Morau, Palm, Meruem, Pitou (everyone actually) animated was so nice. Changes didn't bother me, there was way more pros than cons and this'll be great and creepy arc, can't wait for next episode! |
| when will the manga resume since were catching up. i liked the episode.no complain about the change of story just glad its animated |
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| Nice ep, i see no reason's for complaining . . . |
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Zee530 said: insan3soldiern said: Zee530 said: The arc seems so...different from what i've come to expect of the show. How so? I mean things haven't even really got started. Aside from the opening and endings, which I agree had a feeling of foreboding, it felt more or less the same to me. I don't know how Togashi works since i don't read the manga but all the arcs seem a bit....'disconnected', the hunter universe itself seems to be lacking a general theme holding everything together. The 1st arc with the exam was okay, but after that Nen seems to be suddenly introduced out of nowhere, the concept of G.I seemed a bit??? and now we have mutant ants. This is just the debacles of an anime only watcher, despite it's randomness, it's still the best shounen i've seen so far. How Togashi works is that he's a auteur storyteller who's interested in a lot of things and is not afraid to try different genre within the boundaries of shounen. One look at level E and the last few volumes of YYH can show you the unconventional shift of genre. Chimera ant arc is his apocalyptic horror story so the tone will be different. (While Yorknew is his noir story, Greed Island is his video game story...etc. Level E has very similar structure too...you switch from horror, RPG adventure, noir, detective, SF ..etc effortlessly) |
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Kcaco said: How Togashi works is that he's a auteur storyteller who's interested in a lot of things and is not afraid to try different genre within the boundaries of shounen. Precisely why I can't get enough of his stuff. Level E, for example, could be both uproariously hilarious and at times genuinely sad / poignant. Given his quality for storytelling, especially within the confines of a shonen, it makes these hiatuses all the more disheartening. At least we got this, for now. Hopefully he'll get back on his feet soon. lightline said: Got another question I wonder why netero is involved in the new arc ? shouldn't he be worrying about the hunter exam so why does he want to fight the king ? |
DangerrApr 21, 2013 6:58 AM
Zee530 said: insan3soldiern said: Zee530 said: The arc seems so...different from what i've come to expect of the show. How so? I mean things haven't even really got started. Aside from the opening and endings, which I agree had a feeling of foreboding, it felt more or less the same to me. I don't know how Togashi works since i don't read the manga but all the arcs seem a bit....'disconnected', the hunter universe itself seems to be lacking a general theme holding everything together. The 1st arc with the exam was okay, but after that Nen seems to be suddenly introduced out of nowhere, the concept of G.I seemed a bit??? and now we have mutant ants. This is just the debacles of an anime only watcher, despite it's randomness, it's still the best shounen i've seen so far. I don't consider this a fault in the slightest. It just guarantees that each arc will be different in structure from the preceding ones. Unlike One Piece or DBZ were the arcs boil down to the last battle with the big bad all the time (OK, to be fair, One Piece didn't do this for a few arcs, and I still consider the series to be enjoyable) |
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| Bah my fear came true, they messed up the flashback. This is why they should have just made things happen the way they were meant to happen, in the fucking 1st episode! Oh well, Madhouse is still doing an awesome job with this, so I'll let this one slide. |
| Oh man that OP it has so much powerful scenes. Finally some new uncharted territory anime wise HxH. :D ED is good also. Great job on that Madhouse. j0x said: lol that opening song will never change ever!!! but waiting for more episodes XD Hey Toriko finally got changed its OP after like 99 episodes. Don't give up hope. :P |
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| This is it. The part where the anime makes or breaks! And a different opening wouldn't hurt either. |
Mitsuhashi_Takashi said: What are you living for? This is your life, live for the sake of it! Screw what everyone else things! If they get in your way, just blow them away! |
| Netero....hunter exam? Netero only involves himself in special cases...like everyone almost failing. Or someone KO'ing everyone...he's the freaking chairman of HUNTERS, of course he'll be involved in stopping the advent of a superior race that tries to overtake humans. |
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| Nice slow paced episode to introduce the new arc, can't wait to see Kaito in action... But i sort of missed Kurapika and Leorio, hope that they will show themselves again... |
| So we're calling inspirations rip offs now? Lol |
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| I'm kinda glad I'm not a manga reader, it seems people are shitting bricks over something but I couldn't care less, I'm too busy enjoying the show. |
Paul said: I'm kinda glad I'm not a manga reader, it seems people are shitting bricks over something but I couldn't care less, I'm too busy enjoying the show. Ignorance is a bliss in this case I suppose. I have read the manga, I'm not angry as much as I am a bit disappointed. |
gedataApr 21, 2013 11:18 AM
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roiabrazaldo said: First, Hi guys! I'm new here :) A full fan of Hunter X Hunter universe. I can't help but to express my thoughts about this NEW episode everyone have been waiting for. I voted 1 out of 5. Yes. I have a couple of reasons why. I might add up a spoiler so be cautious.. or I may not since the episode spoiled it itself to the viewer. Again, I really don't understand how this was "ruined" because certain events were slightly changed or chronologically rearranged. Literally, the only difference between what happens in the manga and what happens here, as far as Kite's relationship with Gon goes, is that Gon's motivation to become a hunter was just inspired through the villagers instead of Kite; and that object for motivation is unchanged, which is his father. Otherwise, he still saved Gon as a child, and they still had a conversation that's very similar to the one they had in the manga, though years later. Its not like Gon spent a substantial amount of time with Kite in chapter 1 of the manga, anyways. If any of you have read the Song of Ice and Fire book series, then I'd love to see how you'd all react to the Game of Thrones TV adaption going on right now. The show's taken many, MANY more liberties than HxH has with its source material, but it's still a damn good show. It doesn't need to be a carbon-copy of the source-material to be good. I'll even concede that 2011's interpretation of the Kite-Gon relationship isn't as good as the source material. Even so, it's marginal. |
DangerrApr 21, 2013 11:29 AM
| Mikasa I find it amazingly hilarious how much you praised the 2011 version and crucified the 99 anime version for 75 episodes and now after one episode have just completely flipped on the 2011 version saying it's ruined because of how they presented Kaito lol. Just completely ridiculous. I'm not defending Madhouse's interpretation of Kaito seeing as how I was somewhat disappointed myself, but again Gon's main purpose for wanting to become a Hunter was that Gin was a Hunter, not because of Kaito. Was it supposed to be Kaito who pushed him in that direction? Absolutely, but we should've seen this coming from day one when Gon told Mito his motivations for going to take the Hunter Exam in episode 1. The relationship might not be as strong because Kaito didn't nudge Gon in that direction, but Kaito's character is not ruined or his importance to Gon. He saved Gon's life and he is still Ging's student, so it's not like they completely changed everything that was important to his character. |
| was a decent episode but i don't understand their reasoning for changing the flashback at all, i'm not gonna say "NOTHING MAKES SENSE NOW" etc. but i do think it was better in the manga (only read that part about 5/10 minutes ago) a bit of a strange thing to change xD The OP is fantastic though, it's getting me all excited again even though i know everything that happens. Cannot wait to see all of this animated! The king looks great, they all look great, it's twice as nice considering the artwork was somewhat disagreeable at this point :P I look forward to the rest, i'm certain they won't change anything else. I have a friend who watched the old OVAs a few years ago but hasn't read it and he has been thinking that kite was ging the entire time, wish i could see the look on his face when he watches this :P |
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