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Director of Psycho-Pass Apologizes for Poor Quality of Episode 18

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02-21-13, 8:15 AM

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VioLink said:
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there is always a poor quality in the eps, it's called akane


Hahaha no.

you tell'em VioLink!
 
02-21-13, 8:49 AM

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oh, this hasn't happened in quite a while

If you are referring to the Director admitting that the product was put out flawed, yes it is relatively rare. However, fixing things after the initial broadcast is not that uncommon. Madoka was a prime example. Almost every episode had additional detail added between the initial broadcast and the web version on NicoNico. I assume there was even more changes in the BluRay/DVD versions. Madoka also had a similar thing happen, with the final two episodes being delayed due to the earthquake/tsunami and the production committee admitting that it would be better to put out a polished final product than to rush out something that would be inferior in quality.
 
02-21-13, 8:55 AM

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Just watched ep.18.

In my opinion sakuga is not as bad as the twitter seemed to indicate but on the other hand the story is not that interesting in this episode. I think the sakuga problem was most prominent near the end. And also it seems the motion is sometimes not smooth enough, perhaps the number of frames is not sufficient. And the voice sometimes does not synchronize with the mouth movement.

And one of the worst sakuga is like this:
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
02-21-13, 9:20 AM

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I wonder when will A-1 apologize for all the shit they've done.
 
02-21-13, 9:29 AM

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Well.... This at least shows that they have some standards that they follow... And this time they were below that standard
 
02-21-13, 9:37 AM

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They should fix episode 17 too. Some faces in that looked horrendous.


I thought it was just me! Some of it looked truly terrible and it stood out even more as the quality had previously been excellent - disappointing as ep 17 was kind of important
Makes you wonder how bad ep 18 turned out?


W-who.. is that.. -.-
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All of the budget went into Makishima's bared legs in the last episode.

LOL!
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Ohhh, did I hit the mark? Boy. Hehehehe, don't you worry. I can't honestly say that I dislike this kind of futile struggle.
It can't exactly be helped, you're up against Rakan, of all people. That lunkhead has broken every rule in the book so often the book might as well not exist.
 
02-21-13, 9:46 AM

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Natsu12345 said:
katenosh said:
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They should fix episode 17 too. Some faces in that looked horrendous.


I thought it was just me! Some of it looked truly terrible and it stood out even more as the quality had previously been excellent - disappointing as ep 17 was kind of important
Makes you wonder how bad ep 18 turned out?


W-who.. is that.. -.-
parfaited said:
All of the budget went into Makishima's bared legs in the last episode.

LOL!


is this real? it's so bad D:
 
02-21-13, 9:47 AM

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I haven't watched it yet cause it just came out but way to crash my hope bro
 
02-21-13, 9:52 AM

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Ohhh? This is sad to hear. But hopefully things will get better in the next episode.
With the amazing story this anime has, one episode with bad animation isn't too bad.
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02-21-13, 10:42 AM

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symbv said:
Just watched ep.18.

In my opinion sakuga is not as bad as the twitter seemed to indicate but on the other hand the story is not that interesting in this episode. I think the sakuga problem was most prominent near the end. And also it seems the motion is sometimes not smooth enough, perhaps the number of frames is not sufficient. And the voice sometimes does not synchronize with the mouth movement.

And one of the worst sakuga is like this:


Well... I still need to watch the full episode, but...
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-14710.html At first seems as bad as the director said. :x

-MgZ_ said:
I wonder when will A-1 and JC Staff apologize for all the shit they've done.


Here, I corrected it a bit for you. x)

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02-21-13, 10:45 AM

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katenosh said:
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They should fix episode 17 too. Some faces in that looked horrendous.


I thought it was just me! Some of it looked truly terrible and it stood out even more as the quality had previously been excellent - disappointing as ep 17 was kind of important
Makes you wonder how bad ep 18 turned out?


I was worrying how bad ep 18 would be if they consider ep 17 to be acceptable.
...Just wow. This should be up there with the legendary ep 4 of Gurren Lagann.
 
02-21-13, 10:49 AM

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symbv said:
Just watched ep.18.

In my opinion sakuga is not as bad as the twitter seemed to indicate but on the other hand the story is not that interesting in this episode. I think the sakuga problem was most prominent near the end. And also it seems the motion is sometimes not smooth enough, perhaps the number of frames is not sufficient. And the voice sometimes does not synchronize with the mouth movement.

And one of the worst sakuga is like this:


God i laughed for at least a minute when i opened that spoiler, that was great thanks for that you filled a little bit of that empty feeling i got after finishing Rewrite and thought to myself "fuck now i finished it and i cant read it anymore" just like everytime i finish reading something i really like =/
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02-21-13, 10:58 AM

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Animation quality is primarily based on three factors: studio, budget and time
Considering Production I.G. is in charge of this and Urbochi's creation is their flagship title (they have another Uro's title coming out this year).the studio and budget concerns are out of the picture. This leads me to think that the mess up was caused by time constraints that force director to air an episode without proper animation inspection and clean-up.

That said, I don't think this is a bad publicity at all, in fact, it might be the opposite. Most fans follow the anime because of the story, not the animation since its quality is average in today's standard, even when we compare it to other Steampunk's titles. Not only that, the timely apology (pretty rare in the anime industry) will be viewed as a courageous move and signaling a rigid adherence to high quality. This, along with 'no Moe' commitment, should boost Psycho-pass's reputation considerably. However, the real impact will be felt when the BD/DVDs are released. Fans of the series will have more incentive to buy BDs since they expect to see better quality than what was shown on TV (This may remind you of a similar fiasco called Bakemonogatari. Same concept, different execution, arguably splendid result)

In conclusion, it is an unexpected but classic PR move that did exactly what PR supposed to do: turns bad things into good publicity, reverses customer's perceptions
 
02-21-13, 11:00 AM

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-MgZ_ said:
I wonder when will A-1 apologize for all the shit they've done.
Only in our dreams.
 
02-21-13, 11:07 AM

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DraconisMarch said:
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I wonder when will A-1 apologize for all the shit they've done.
Only in our dreams.


^ This. They have no reason to if their messes sell like hot cakes
 
02-21-13, 11:17 AM

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Ah... If ALL failures in anime are apologize like this...

I haven't watch the episode, but in tumblr many people up pictures of Psycho-Pass ep 18 and yeah... LOT of quality.

But I forgive him...
 
02-21-13, 11:21 AM

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Hahaha no.

Whenever I see that scene, it feels like I'm the one getting a hit to the head.
That's what I call a gift, from the authors to akane, it's not that she was able to do it because of her skills in combat or intelligence -which we keep hearing about since the beginning of the show but never see anything that proves it- , she did it because the authors wanted so. I'm pretty sure makashima could have dodged it but hey, if the authors want him to freeze and act surprised, he'll freeze and act surprised. Btw what's a single example supposed to prove?
 
02-21-13, 11:37 AM

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Whenever I see that scene, it feels like I'm the one getting a hit to the head.
That's what I call a gift, from the authors to akane, it's not that she was able to do it because of her skills in combat or intelligence -which we keep hearing about since the beginning of the show but never see anything that proves it- , she did it because the authors wanted so. I'm pretty sure makashima could have dodged it but hey, if the authors want him to freeze and act surprised, he'll freeze and act surprised. Btw what's a single example supposed to prove?


Akane is pretty skillful, the test score, which includes exam and filed practices proved it. I think the author actually purposefully reduced Akane's ability, making her act stupid
Makishima froze because of his hubris, he just about to finished off his supposedly rival for good. Of all the 'flawlessness' that people are praising Makishima, this may be the fatal flaw that leads to his downfall.
This example proves that Akane is a really tough character. How's about the time she was put on really painful mental test of her friend's death? She did it herself even with all the risks and passed it without damaging her Psycho-Pass. Like her or hate her, Akane is essential to resolve the conflict in this story.
 
02-21-13, 11:39 AM

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They should remake the whole show.
-Fixing-
 
02-21-13, 12:08 PM

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I've always liked the art in Psycho-Pass... But why do all the women have such ugly faces?
 
02-21-13, 12:16 PM

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I've always liked the art in Psycho-Pass... But why do all the women have such ugly faces?


Maybe because we are used to 'Moe' faces xD. But seriously, did you forget Akane's friend?!
I think the women's faces are fine, some are better than others, just like the real world.
 
02-21-13, 12:25 PM

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They should fix episode 17 too. Some faces in that looked horrendous.


I noticed that last week too I was like what is going on with the quality recently?


Welcome to the Anime industry. It's expected to see the quality in animation somewhere down the line. Though as another has said, it is IG's flagship title. Still, if he's apologised, it means it was just a fuck-up rather than being pressed for budget.

Wonder how Psycho Pass is doing in ratings/sales. Anyone care to enlighten me?
 
02-21-13, 12:34 PM

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Ammish said:
Wonder how Psycho Pass is doing in ratings/sales. Anyone care to enlighten me?
The first volume:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=555237#msg19891845
 
02-21-13, 12:35 PM

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Wonder how Psycho Pass is doing in ratings/sales. Anyone care to enlighten me?
The first volume:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=555237#msg19891845
Rating-wise it is around average for a NoitaminA show.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
02-21-13, 12:39 PM

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Dusk252 said:
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Wonder how Psycho Pass is doing in ratings/sales. Anyone care to enlighten me?
The first volume:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=555237#msg19891845

That number is a bit old, Psycho-Pas Vol. 1 is now up to 9,503 after 9 weeks. second volume is up to 8,783 after four. So it's doing very solidly.
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02-21-13, 12:39 PM

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Shaduge said:
there is always a poor quality in the eps, it's called akane


I'm laughing so hard omg
 
02-21-13, 12:48 PM

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Wonder how Psycho Pass is doing in ratings/sales. Anyone care to enlighten me?
The first volume:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=555237#msg19891845

That number is a bit old, Psycho-Pas Vol. 1 is now up to 9,503 after 9 weeks. second volume is up to 8,783 after four. So it's doing very solidly.


Character design is probably an initial turn-off. But thankfully, people do recognize a good show when they see it :)
 
02-21-13, 12:52 PM

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I just saw the episode and since i'm a fan of the story, I did not really notice much except 2-3 really bad scenes ^^.

Still a great episode!
 
02-21-13, 1:43 PM

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They should fix episode 17 too. Some faces in that looked horrendous.


I thought it was just me! Some of it looked truly terrible and it stood out even more as the quality had previously been excellent - disappointing as ep 17 was kind of important
Makes you wonder how bad ep 18 turned out?


W-who.. is that.. -.-
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All of the budget went into Makishima's bared legs in the last episode.

LOL!


Lmao that art looks like a 10 year old draw like that.
 
02-21-13, 1:55 PM

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I've always liked the art in Psycho-Pass... But why do all the women have such ugly faces?


Maybe because we are used to 'Moe' faces xD. But seriously, did you forget Akane's friend?!
I think the women's faces are fine, some are better than others, just like the real world.


Akane's friend was hot!
 
02-21-13, 2:45 PM

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first glimpse of QUALITY
 
02-21-13, 2:47 PM

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first glimpse of QUALITY


Dat face lol
 
02-21-13, 2:51 PM

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first glimpse of QUALITY


Dat face lol


The intro is terrible (at one point some characters are p much unrecognisable) and when you compare it to the OP it's just worlds apart

How did it all go so wrong
 
02-21-13, 3:05 PM

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bad animation for a dicisive episode indeed
 
02-21-13, 3:21 PM

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Makes you wonder how bad ep 18 turned out?



is it a new character? it is beyond poor quality, you cannot even recognize some characters
 
02-21-13, 3:36 PM

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Oh, dear lol Makes ep 4 of TTGL look like Redline.
Apologies accepted, but don't do it again!
 
02-21-13, 3:51 PM

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Did anyone see the scene of Gino without his glasses?? DEM DERPY EYES. But seriously, I was like WTF happen when watching it.
 
02-21-13, 3:57 PM

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Psycho-Pass is a QUALITY show with QUALITY animation.
 
02-21-13, 4:43 PM

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Damn the animation looks like a complete nightmare
 
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02-21-13, 4:56 PM

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Didn't feel that bad for me... Atleast until near the end.
 
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Dang what the heck is wrong his nose?
 
02-21-13, 4:56 PM

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I don't want to sound cynical, because I like this show and think it's put together pretty soundly. There have been some goofy scenes from time to time, but I think some of us are blowing things a little bit out of proportion. That being said, I still have to admit I've been wary of the visual quality myself since the second or third episode.

 
02-21-13, 4:57 PM

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I won't watch this until they fixed this mess
 
02-21-13, 5:01 PM

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Thankfully there wasn't any action this ep.

Quality was definitely spotty at times.
 
02-21-13, 5:21 PM

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I won't watch this until they fixed this mess

It's not even that bad. Some of the faces are off-model, but it's certainly a watchable episode.
 
02-21-13, 5:25 PM

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If he knew it was inferior before the release, then why did he release it?
That's like a chef knowing he's preparing a mediocre dish, but he serves it anyway. Apologizing to the customer is too little, too late when they've already eaten the crappy meal.
 
02-21-13, 5:40 PM

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The content made up for the bad animation imho. At least the fact that they're redoing it shows they have some standards.
 
02-21-13, 6:04 PM

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They should fix episode 17 too. Some faces in that looked horrendous.


now that you've mentioned it. yes it was horrible. but they made up with the story so it was forgivable.

anyways, as for episode 18, if they remain the quality of the plot then its forgivable. we've overlooked 17 so 18 would be fine...i guess
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at least it's still watchable and not as bad as Magi's latest episodes.
 
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