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| Monogatari never cease so amaze me. Nisio Isin is too good. The song "Kimi no shiranai monogatari" now feels like it's Hanekawa's feelings |
| That was very decent. I liked it better than Bake AND Nise. What's Nekomonogatari Shiro about? |
VioLink said: That was quite a ride and I enjoyed every second of it. Reserving officially scoring until subs but for now 9/10  Shinobu saving the day was freaking sick and that OST was outstanding throughout the whole show. Damm shaft take my money...... The monogatari series never fail to impress me Ill better wait for BD for monogatari second season and Kizumonogatari even if its 2015!!!!!!!!!!!! or late 2014 -------____------ |
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| Can't wait for the second season. |
mugimugi said: Do you know the chronological order for all the novels after that?itsvero said: That was very decent. I liked it better than Bake AND Nise. What's Nekomonogatari Shiro about? Story takes place after Nise. Hanekawa is the narrator and encounters yet another problem which she has to solve on "her own" this time. The novel is probably the second best. Or at least in the top 3 with Kizu and Kabuki. |
| So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't? |
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| Getting to understand Hanekawa better as a person and human being (who she really is) = awesome! Loved it! Just an amazing series, wish I could read the novels though... |
| 7/10 wasnt as good as i hoped. |
| FUCKKKKKKKKKK the preview at the end. SHAFT you teasing bastards. wow so bakemono begins right after this? arararararagi cant have downtime lol |
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| When, oh when, is Kizu coming? I really want to see Shinobu as she was in all her glory.... As usual this was a superb show. And that teaser at the end... |
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Ragingpie said: EcchiEcho said: So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't? He loved the Hanekawa that was her created persona. While the persona is still a part of who she is and that part he did love, when he found out more about her he no longer loved her the way he did. So he doesn't see it as having fallen in love with Hanekawa because he didn't actual know her. So Ultimately he fell in love with someone, she wasn't who he thought she was and now he's got a broken heart over it. I suppose that means Hitagi picked him up on the rebound. This is a really really good explanation. However, I do believe that he never really fell in love in the first place. I mean, I think we all have experienced this quite a few times in our lives, but maybe not to this extent. You meet a new person, you find this person very exciting, you want to know more about this person etc. You might confuse these feelings for love. But in the end after spending quite some time with this person, you find out the he/she wasn't as you though at the very beginning and becomes a really great friend instead. |
| all dat fan service. holy. my body was not ready. |
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Ragingpie said: EcchiEcho said: So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't? He loved the Hanekawa that was her created persona. While the persona is still a part of who she is and that part he did love, when he found out more about her he no longer loved her the way he did. So he doesn't see it as having fallen in love with Hanekawa because he didn't actual know her. So Ultimately he fell in love with someone, she wasn't who he thought she was and now he's got a broken heart over it. I suppose that means Hitagi picked him up on the rebound. Sounds like another anime that recently aired. Minus the broken heart. |
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| Didn't enjoy it as much as Nise and Bake, cause I don't really like Hanekawa. Still great though. 8.5/10 |
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| I didn't expect we will get such a convenient plot device called "Aberration Sword". I also didn't expect Araragi to threaten to kill Oshino. I also didn't expect Hanekawa to be in control with his own body. And Shinobu saves the day! We finally know the reason why she got her hat, it was given as a reward by Oshino for helping Hanekawa! And also the reason why Araragi isn't falling in love with Hanekawa. This prequel is good. Can't wait for new monogatari! |
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| This prequel was amazing. The ridiculously pretentious yet beautiful kitsch that is Shinbo's art direction is one of the biggest reasons why I find the Monogatari series both inspiring and addicting to watch. I am generally adverse to hentai and ecchi in anime, but if there's fantastic artwork, dialogue and plot alongside these factors, surely these will be cancelled out almost entirely. I really loved that witty one-liner coming from Karen and the awkward sisterly advice Tsukihi gave. Learning more about Hanekawa in general was interesting, too, especially when it came to the love dynamic between her and Araragi. So she was basically his first love, huh? I also felt I could relate to Hanekawa's desire to be the perfect "normal" girl. Seeing how she constantly bottled up her feelings all the time only to go berserk after approaching problems the wrong way was like a mirror of myself. I'm getting too mushy here, but I'm basically saying Nekomonogatari really hit home for me. The music was also a bonus; really can't wait to get my hands on the OST and opening. I assume the wait will be months from now, like it was for the Nisemonogatari OSTs, Agh, Shaft, why must you make us suffer like this? The teaser was also a horrible way to end things considering how hyped I already am for Kizumonogatari. Now I have two things I will jeopardize my sleeping hours with! The rest of Monogatari couldn't come any sooner!!! I must have dat OST. |
| Loved This Prequel although i love the 1st season more (Bakemonogatari) 9/10 for me and i just loved how they tied in Nekomonogatari's ending to Bakemonogatari beginning (^_^) |
Stuartxtr7 said: Didn't enjoy it as much as Nise and Bake, cause I don't really like Hanekawa. Still great though. 8.5/10 For me, Nise is the weakest link. Bake was the best. This lands somewhere in the middle. I hope the new season of Bake rocks my little socks off. |
| I'm so glad I've read Kizumonogatari before. Shinobu is way more awesome is this episode that it seems. |
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| Very solid adaption, a lot of dialogue was cut particularly the opening conversation but then again this is to be expected, heck the opening conversation felt like it could have been two episodes on the Tsukihi portion alone so cuts were obvious, they left out a few details but nothing worth nitpicking about, my only disappointment if you could even call it that is that they didn't animated Kizumonogatari first, i read the novel so i understood the references as well as the details concerning Shinobu but for those who didn't they are kinda missing out until Kizumonogatari finally gets its adaption, i wonder why its being pushed back when it was announced a while ago. Well regardless it was a very solid adaption and a enjoyable one, when reading Neko i got the same feeling that the anime gave me and that was that this entire sequence of events was crucial to explain how Araragi ends up with Senjougahara, because if one just went from Kizu to Bake and skipped Neko people would call BS on the transition considering the implications Kizu gave concerning Hanekawa, thus the purpose of Neko, well one of them anyway. Look forward to the future adaptions, anybody have any clue on which they are animating next? |
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| oh wow! Shinobu talks again!! the moment you know when she talks, something awesome is gonna happen! ^^ So after that will be the beginning of Bake huh? I wonder what's the new season they reveal after the credits. Ah... I miss all the other characters :3 |
| 9/10, I liked this very much just as expected ^^ Better than Bakemonogatari but worse than Nisemonogatari. Nekomonogatari Kuro was the only one of the novels that I hadn't read so I didn't have anything to expect. I liked how the things turned out with Hanekawa, Shinobu showing up to finish off sawari neko was awesome. Shinobu showing up is always awesome! xD Now I'll be looking forward to the best of all, Kizumonogatari :3 |
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| Considering that most people in this thread has already watched the 2 previous series, ranting about too much fan service makes zero sense(even the scenes are based on the original novel, so lolwut). Anyway, Nekomonogatari Kuro anime was really good, even better than the novel which had much crap and less pun/humour in both neko kuro/shiro. Another reason is that Nisemonogatari anime sucked TOO hard, so I find this one far more enjoyable. I'm looking forward to Otorimonogatari and Koimonogatari(this one is the best in the whole series) visualized, the rest episodes of 2nd season is just not that great. |
DawnJJan 4, 2013 5:57 AM
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
| Oh common oshino we all know that you name her black hanekawa because of her underwear. but, overall not as good as bake and nise. but it's still good. |
| tuturu~!! (≧◡≦) |
| The moral of the story is quite interesting, and in a way very Japanese. You're stuck in your shitty circumstances, and neither magic nor a knight in shining armour will ever come to save you. Eventually, you have to solve your own problems. In any case, it was interesting. Better than Nise but not quite as good as Bake. 7/10. |
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| Great episode , enjoyed it at full xD 9/10 |
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KamiKali said: VioLink said: That was quite a ride and I enjoyed every second of it. Reserving officially scoring until subs but for now 9/10 Shinobu saving the day was freaking sick and that OST was outstanding throughout the whole show. Damm shaft take my money...... The monogatari series never fail to impress me Ill better wait for BD for monogatari second season and Kizumonogatari even if its 2015!!!!!!!!!!!! or late 2014 -------____------ More like Aniplex take your money. Take all your money, rape you in the ass with a spiked bat and then ask for more money |
| I just watched the batch release of Nekomonogatari: Kuro and it was just awesome, reminded me of how much I missed intelligent dialogue and the humour of the Monogatari series with the SHAFT flare to boot. Hanekawa in underwear is awesome, the subtle incest portrayed in the first quarter of this mini-series was hilarious, Araragi is going to fall into the depths of hell eventually with his antics. I think the reason Araragi proclaims that he will never say "I love you" to Hanekawa is because he respects her too much and that he feels he is not good enough for her. I understand the logic since she helped him a lot during the Spring Vacation when he was having Vampire problems and despite falling in love for her, he won't tell her but instead live a life of where he is constantly and eternally grateful for her to the point of willing to sacrifice his life for her. Darn I like almost all the girls in the Monogatari series and I can't choose who to ship with Araragi. ;) I wonder what "Nekomonogatari: Shirou" will be about, obviously the reappearance of the White Neko inside Hanekawa. The ending credits make me hopeful that SHAFT might actually animate all the novels of the Monogatari series, I mean they're planning to release Kizumonogatari as a animated movie and so once that's done, SHAFT would have animated 6 volumes of the novels, there's over 15 volumes for that series, well, 15 confirmed volumes but they're could be 1 or 2 more than that since the Monogatari series is still ongoing. Anyways, my rating for Nekomonogatari: Kuro is a 10/10, the next arc after Kizumonogatari is released is of course Nekomonogatari: Shirou, hopefully that's what SHAFT does next. ;) |
| I enjoyed the series, though I would have enjoyed it more if it actually was on a character I liked i.e (Shinobu, hitagi, actually you know what any other char as I like pretty much like all the rest). Meme pretty much explains all the reasons why I just dont like Hanekawa and I frankly never really cared for her character or ever sympathised with her. |
| 10/10. im still speechless how genius the writer of this series is. |
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| I'm sorry but am I the only one that finds that the dialogue sounds like it was written by a total amateur that just sat down and wrote whatever he felt would be easiest to write. The redundant and pedantic nature of the dialogue and the overall prose used is just wretchedly bad at times. It's the kind of thing I'd expect a literature prof to use to illustrate exactly how not to write dialogue. Some examples: "A Hanekawa-like -- Hanekawa. Nothing unlike her about her. No. Not even once had Hanekawa ever been something other than Hanekawa. Not even when she was unlike Hanekawa. Not even when she didn't resemble at all Hanekawa. Never." What is that even supposed to mean? I took back my previous remark -- damn. I couldn't speak in monotone, I yelled sharply, in a scream. I was not able to not put emotions into it. I was not able not to succumb to my violent emotion. I was not able not to confess to Hanekawa." This can be cut down significantly to something like, "I was too astonished to say what I wanted to her" or something of the like unless Isin was just trying to fulfill a word/page quota which I'm starting to suspect he was. This is the sort of stuff that gets marks taken off in creative writing classes and the note, "redundant" next to it. "Don't use a cat as a reason. Don't use a kaii as a pretext. Don't use a monster as a chance. Don't use unhappiness as a drive to grow up. Even if you did -- in the end, that would be like scratching at yourself. The kaii -- is actually not there, you know?" Again just starting every sentence with the same preposition is generally frowned upon not to mention that the dialogue itself comes across as largely meaningless. "Just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, just die, nyaaaaaaaaaa! I don't even think I need to say anything here. In the LN itself this goes on for 3 times as long as what I just posted. Having a little trouble coming up with content there Isin? |
PeacingOutJan 4, 2013 12:11 PM
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Edefrem said: ^ Nobody cares Yeah I've sort of noticed that sadly enough. It speaks volumes for why this sort of thing was ever allowed to become popular or be considered well written or even genius in any capacity. Just looks like flat out denial to me personally. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: ;DEdefrem said: ^ Nobody cares Yeah I've sort of noticed that sadly enough. It speaks volumes for why this sort of thing was ever allowed to become popular or be considered well written or even genius in any capacity. Just looks like flat out denial to me personally. |
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| Mmmm I'm just loving the irrational frothing anger as a response. Seriously thank you folks and please keep it coming, it's just speaking volumes as to the type of person this show appeals to (at least the type of person that would call it "genius") and only serves to vindicate me all the more. As for why I watched it even though obviously nobody cares and they just want this thread to be one big circle jerk to the show.... slow week and nothing else to do while waiting for the actual Winter season to start so I just popped it on and let it do it's thing. I didn't expect it to actually be that horribly written. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Mmmm I'm just loving the irrational frothing anger as a response. Seriously thank you folks and please keep it coming, it's just speaking volumes as to the type of person this show appeals to (at least the type of person that would call it "genius") and only serves to vindicate me all the more. As for why I watched it even though obviously nobody cares and they just want this thread to be one big circle jerk to the show.... slow week and nothing else to do while waiting for the actual Winter season to start so I just popped it on and let it do it's thing. I didn't expect it to actually be that horribly written. too each his own |
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mugimugi said: You're reading just some translations you know that right? Ever read some japanese literature? Also who are you? Shakespeare? Want some attention? Food for your ego? Honestly no, but if people just want to rage at me I might as well be accommodating since it really doesn't bother me. Like so damn mad people...so damn mad. :/ D3ad_Fantasy said: too each his own Yeah basically. For the record I'm not trying to insult everyone's tastes here aside from the ones that are losing their shit over my comments cause it's hilarious to me to see them freak the fuck out. I honestly don't really care if people find this genius or not cause not everybody has the same standards for dialogue and writing. I just happen to disagree quite vehemently and think it's largely nonsense about terrible characters who I didn't care for one bit by the end. Meh.... |
PeacingOutJan 4, 2013 1:32 PM
Kaioshin_Sama said: mugimugi said: You're reading just some translations you know that right? Ever read some japanese literature? Also who are you? Shakespeare? Want some attention? Food for your ego? Honestly no, but if people just want to rage at me I might as well be accommodating since it really doesn't bother me. Like so damn mad people...so damn mad. :/ D3ad_Fantasy said: too each his own Yeah basically. have a nice day then chap :) edit: btw as for the repetitive part, Alliteration is seen quite a bit in literature and poetry. If certain words were meant to drive home to the viewer then reiterating them 1000x generally does the job. Some don't like it, others need it to help amplify a message that is being brought forth. I am ofc part of the latter. Sad you didn't like the Monogatari Series cause a lot of what you had on your list was surprisingly similar to what i enjoy as well :( |
AriksuJan 4, 2013 1:33 PM
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D3ad_Fantasy said: edit: btw as for the repetitive part, Alliteration is seen quite a bit in literature and poetry. If certain words were meant to drive home to the viewer then reiterating them 1000x generally does the job. Some don't like it, others need it to help amplify a message that is being brought forth. I am ofc part of the latter. Sad you didn't like the Monogatari Series cause a lot of what you had on your list was surprisingly similar to what i enjoy as well :( Alright doing what I usually do with MAL and just replying to the person not acting like manchild. Yeah you know what, I have quite a few friends who have very similar tastes to me yet we disagree quite vehemently about the Monogatari series. However we do seem to agree that this particular entry had particularly poorly written dialogue that made it hard to really care about what was going on. It's called respecting one another's positions even though we argue about it a lot and not being obnoxious to one another just because we don't happen to see 100% eye to eye on the matter. I believe it's called being mature..... |
| So... the cat that posesses Hanekawa in Bakemono is another one than this one, right? The storie does kind of end the same way as this one does (Shinobu being the awesome vampire she is) but it's a different cat even though the circumstances are kind of the same, right? :O |
| Great final episode in this short chapter! Really nice story in general and quite a nice ending! 8/10 Can't wait for Kizumonogatari! |
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