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Dec 31, 2012 6:52 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Oh, she's not human anymore!


Holy hell this episode, Hanekawa attacks!!! Ahh, that must of really hurt. Dat blood. Wow..Araragi-kun. Also, nice to see Shinobu again as well.


Overall, 8/10 for this. It was brilliant.
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Dec 31, 2012 6:58 AM

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overall a pretty good watch 8.5/10
bakemonogatari is still yet to be topped
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Dec 31, 2012 7:03 AM

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Was too busy reading Saya's route in Lb! that I completely forgot this was airing. Managed to catch the last episode though, and from what I saw it seemed pretty good. ED song wasn't bad. I'll watch the whole thing subbed when it comes out.
 
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Zenmonogatari 2013, not sure if Fall, couldn't red the kanji so fast^^

Edit: Ah its the Kanji for Year, right?

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Dec 31, 2012 7:06 AM

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That was quite a ride and I enjoyed every second of it. Reserving officially scoring until subs but for now 9/10

Shinobu saving the day was freaking sick and that OST was outstanding throughout the whole show.
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Dec 31, 2012 7:08 AM

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Too be honest, I liked it even more than the Bakemonogatari anime.
 
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Dec 31, 2012 7:15 AM
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Nice. So impressive as Hyouka. To me, it's like a supernatural version of Hyouka.
 
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Certainly was a nice way to ring in the New Years.

Man, I don't care if you can regenerate...getting sliced in half will hurt like a royal bitch.
 
Dec 31, 2012 7:36 AM

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Loved it.

Now the awful wait for subs.
 
Dec 31, 2012 7:40 AM

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More like, the awful wait for the BDs =(
 
Dec 31, 2012 8:46 AM

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mugimugi said:
More like, the awful wait for the BDs =(


This^ im gonna try and hold out for the BD's lol, gonna be tough...
 
Dec 31, 2012 11:32 AM

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キタアアアアアアア-!!!

That was so great! I love the way all the elements of the story are connecting^^
 
Dec 31, 2012 11:05 PM

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Wait what.I don't understand something.It says Airing Date: 31 Dec.So why is it already finished? like 4 episodes on one day or what?.
 
Jan 1, 2013 4:48 AM

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iLostReason said:
Wait what.I don't understand something.It says Airing Date: 31 Dec.So why is it already finished? like 4 episodes on one day or what?.
I suggest you to check or search the News Discussion Board in MAL once in a while:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=528818
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Does this mean the other characters will get their side stories as seperate series too?
 
Jan 1, 2013 8:43 AM

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symbv said:
iLostReason said:
Wait what.I don't understand something.It says Airing Date: 31 Dec.So why is it already finished? like 4 episodes on one day or what?.
I suggest you to check or search the News Discussion Board in MAL once in a while:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=528818

Ah i see now.I wonder why i didnt notice it before, since i was looking at this thread many times.I guess i was too excited seeing simple ''To Be Aired on Dec 31'' that i didnt care much what is wrote there.Well, anyway thanks ^^ i learnt my lesson to read everything till end before asking.
 
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saw only the raw, but it was hilarious when araragi regenerated the lower body with also the clothes, that's how regeneration is meant to be xD

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Zeando said:
saw only the raw, but it was hilarious when araragi regenerated the lower body with also the clothes, that's how regeneration is meant to be xD


It's not mentioned in the novel but it was because of Shinobu. Will be explained in Kizumonogatari.
 
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i did read kizu, i just found it hilarious anyway :P

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Jan 2, 2013 9:57 AM

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One of the top 2 TV anime in my heart in 2012!

10/10
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Jan 2, 2013 1:23 PM

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It feels so pretentious and shallow, yet why did I enjoy it?
 
Jan 2, 2013 6:19 PM

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doesn't it feel like they kind of retconned it a little bit since bakemono?
like in bakemono, they were out in the street when shinobu teleports out of nowhere to bite hanakawa.
also, i thought shinobu stopped talking since the end of kizu all the way until nise where she decided to let past transgressions be and move on
 
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wow, amazing, and i was even more impresed by the short scenes of koyomi vamp thet appeared in the first ep
"i wont fall in love you" i think sahara-san would be the happier woman in the world if she heard arararararagi-san said that to hanekawa

and when the sword was gone, i kinda supcted he was going to do that, specially because he wasnt moving but..it actually surprised me when it happened, since i dont really remember the details of the original version
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plushkin said:
doesn't it feel like they kind of retconned it a little bit since bakemono?
like in bakemono, they were out in the street when shinobu teleports out of nowhere to bite hanakawa.
also, i thought shinobu stopped talking since the end of kizu all the way until nise where she decided to let past transgressions be and move on


That turned out weird in the anime but in the novel it is not clear if Koyomi hearing and seeing her talk is his imagination because of his injuries and wish to hear her talk.
 
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Monogatari never cease so amaze me. Nisio Isin is too good.
The song "Kimi no shiranai monogatari" now feels like it's Hanekawa's feelings
 
Jan 3, 2013 6:08 PM

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That was very decent. I liked it better than Bake AND Nise. What's Nekomonogatari Shiro about?
 
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That was quite a ride and I enjoyed every second of it. Reserving officially scoring until subs but for now 9/10

Shinobu saving the day was freaking sick and that OST was outstanding throughout the whole show.


Damm shaft take my money......
The monogatari series never fail to impress me
Ill better wait for BD for monogatari second season
and Kizumonogatari even if its 2015!!!!!!!!!!!! or late 2014 -------____------
 
Jan 3, 2013 6:10 PM
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itsvero said:
That was very decent. I liked it better than Bake AND Nise. What's Nekomonogatari Shiro about?


Story takes place after Nise. Hanekawa is the narrator and encounters yet another problem which she has to solve on "her own" this time. The novel is probably the second best. Or at least in the top 3 with Kizu and Kabuki.
 
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Can't wait for the second season.
 
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mugimugi said:
itsvero said:
That was very decent. I liked it better than Bake AND Nise. What's Nekomonogatari Shiro about?


Story takes place after Nise. Hanekawa is the narrator and encounters yet another problem which she has to solve on "her own" this time. The novel is probably the second best. Or at least in the top 3 with Kizu and Kabuki.
Do you know the chronological order for all the novels after that?
 
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So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't?
 
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Getting to understand Hanekawa better as a person and human being (who she really is) = awesome!
Loved it! Just an amazing series, wish I could read the novels though...
 
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7/10 wasnt as good as i hoped.
 
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FUCKKKKKKKKKK the preview at the end. SHAFT you teasing bastards.

wow so bakemono begins right after this? arararararagi cant have downtime lol
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This is the first anime to legitimately give me goosebumps. Wow.
Just, wow.

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When, oh when, is Kizu coming? I really want to see Shinobu as she was in all her glory....

As usual this was a superb show. And that teaser at the end...
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EcchiEcho said:
So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't?


He loved the Hanekawa that was her created persona. While the persona is still a part of who she is and that part he did love, when he found out more about her he no longer loved her the way he did. So he doesn't see it as having fallen in love with Hanekawa because he didn't actual know her.

So Ultimately he fell in love with someone, she wasn't who he thought she was and now he's got a broken heart over it. I suppose that means Hitagi picked him up on the rebound.
 
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EcchiEcho said:
So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't?


He loved the Hanekawa that was her created persona. While the persona is still a part of who she is and that part he did love, when he found out more about her he no longer loved her the way he did. So he doesn't see it as having fallen in love with Hanekawa because he didn't actual know her.

So Ultimately he fell in love with someone, she wasn't who he thought she was and now he's got a broken heart over it. I suppose that means Hitagi picked him up on the rebound.


Wow, I was confused about it too, but you explained it very clearly. Thanks!
 
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EcchiEcho said:
So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't?


He loved the Hanekawa that was her created persona. While the persona is still a part of who she is and that part he did love, when he found out more about her he no longer loved her the way he did. So he doesn't see it as having fallen in love with Hanekawa because he didn't actual know her.

So Ultimately he fell in love with someone, she wasn't who he thought she was and now he's got a broken heart over it. I suppose that means Hitagi picked him up on the rebound.

This is a really really good explanation. However, I do believe that he never really fell in love in the first place. I mean, I think we all have experienced this quite a few times in our lives, but maybe not to this extent. You meet a new person, you find this person very exciting, you want to know more about this person etc. You might confuse these feelings for love. But in the end after spending quite some time with this person, you find out the he/she wasn't as you though at the very beginning and becomes a really great friend instead.
 
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all dat fan service. holy.
my body was not ready.
 
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Ragingpie said:
EcchiEcho said:
So I still don't get it. At one part he says he really loves Hanekawa and then goes on about how he doesn't. Whats the deal? It really seemed like he does love her so why is he saying he doesn't?


He loved the Hanekawa that was her created persona. While the persona is still a part of who she is and that part he did love, when he found out more about her he no longer loved her the way he did. So he doesn't see it as having fallen in love with Hanekawa because he didn't actual know her.

So Ultimately he fell in love with someone, she wasn't who he thought she was and now he's got a broken heart over it. I suppose that means Hitagi picked him up on the rebound.


Sounds like another anime that recently aired. Minus the broken heart.
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Koyomi says that his love for Hanekawa is deeper than romantic love. Araragi basically started going out with Hitagi because she asked him out first...sure it cheapens the romance a little, but honestly, if it had been any other girl, he would've probably gone out with them too. He is love with Hitagi because he gradually grew into his feelings for her. But she is not necessarily the most "important" woman in his life, if that makes any sense? That honor most likely is most likely shared by Kisshot and Hanekawa.
 
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Didn't enjoy it as much as Nise and Bake, cause I don't really like Hanekawa.
Still great though.
8.5/10
 
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I didn't expect we will get such a convenient plot device called "Aberration Sword".
I also didn't expect Araragi to threaten to kill Oshino.
I also didn't expect Hanekawa to be in control with his own body.

And Shinobu saves the day!
We finally know the reason why she got her hat, it was given as a reward by Oshino for helping Hanekawa! And also the reason why Araragi isn't falling in love with Hanekawa.

This prequel is good. Can't wait for new monogatari!
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This prequel was amazing. The ridiculously pretentious yet beautiful kitsch that is Shinbo's art direction is one of the biggest reasons why I find the Monogatari series both inspiring and addicting to watch. I am generally adverse to hentai and ecchi in anime, but if there's fantastic artwork, dialogue and plot alongside these factors, surely these will be cancelled out almost entirely. I really loved that witty one-liner coming from Karen and the awkward sisterly advice Tsukihi gave.

Learning more about Hanekawa in general was interesting, too, especially when it came to the love dynamic between her and Araragi. So she was basically his first love, huh?

I also felt I could relate to Hanekawa's desire to be the perfect "normal" girl. Seeing how she constantly bottled up her feelings all the time only to go berserk after approaching problems the wrong way was like a mirror of myself. I'm getting too mushy here, but I'm basically saying Nekomonogatari really hit home for me.

The music was also a bonus; really can't wait to get my hands on the OST and opening. I assume the wait will be months from now, like it was for the Nisemonogatari OSTs, Agh, Shaft, why must you make us suffer like this?

The teaser was also a horrible way to end things considering how hyped I already am for Kizumonogatari. Now I have two things I will jeopardize my sleeping hours with!

The rest of Monogatari couldn't come any sooner!!! I must have dat OST.
 
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Loved This Prequel although i love the 1st season more (Bakemonogatari)
9/10 for me
and i just loved how they tied in Nekomonogatari's ending to Bakemonogatari beginning (^_^)
 
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Didn't enjoy it as much as Nise and Bake, cause I don't really like Hanekawa.
Still great though.
8.5/10


For me, Nise is the weakest link. Bake was the best. This lands somewhere in the middle. I hope the new season of Bake rocks my little socks off.
 
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I'm so glad I've read Kizumonogatari before. Shinobu is way more awesome is this episode that it seems.
 
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