Jrittmayer said: EVR-CP? Where/how would I set that? Open MPC-HC Options menu, Under "Output", instead of madVR select "Enhanced Video Renderer (custom presenter)". And block madVR in External Filters to make sure it's EVR-CP that will be used. Just undo these steps to use madVR again. |
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Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: EVR-CP? Where/how would I set that? Open MPC-HC Options menu, Under "Output", instead of madVR select "Enhanced Video Renderer (custom presenter)". And block madVR in External Filters to make sure it's EVR-CP that will be used. Just undo these steps to use madVR again. Tried this and still same results when opening files, it hangs for a good 5 seconds or more then finally loads up. |
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Jrittmayer said: Tried this and still same results when opening files, it hangs for a good 5 seconds or more then finally loads up. Now we can assume it's not a madVR problem, and not a decoder either. It must be MPC-HC or Haali/LAV Splitter. Since you already removed ReClock that is one less too. You're using MPC-HC or MPC-BE/JanWillem32 build? |
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Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: Tried this and still same results when opening files, it hangs for a good 5 seconds or more then finally loads up. Now we can assume it's not a madVR problem, and not a decoder either. It must be MPC-HC or Haali/LAV Splitter. Since you already removed ReClock that is one less too. You're using MPC-HC or MPC-BE/JanWillem32 build? I actually fiddled a bit more with reclock before giving up on it and the audio works now with no stutter or delay. I'm using the x86 (32-bit) version of MPC-HC as per the download link in your description. |
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Jrittmayer said: I'm using the x86 (32-bit) version of MPC-HC as per the download link in your description. I don't want to sound pessimist, but I'm running out of options... Could you try to use MPC-BE and MPC-HC stable instead of the current one? If it's the same in both players, then means it's not a MPC issue either. Which leaves Haali and LAV Splitter. |
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Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: I'm using the x86 (32-bit) version of MPC-HC as per the download link in your description. I don't want to sound pessimist, but I'm running out of options... Could you try to use MPC-BE and MPC-HC stable instead of the current one? If it's the same in both players, then means it's not a MPC issue either. Which leaves Haali and LAV Splitter. Will tinker with it tomorrow and report back. Thanks for the help though :) |
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Jrittmayer said: Will tinker with it tomorrow and report back. Thanks for the help though :) No worries, it's my guide, so it's my problem too. Just edit your post when you do the test, I'll be checking periodically here. |
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Niyawa said: Before I had LAV version 0.51.3, which couldn't override Haali Media Splitter when it came to .m2ts files, so lossless audio formats broke, as well as possibly PGS subtitle streams and language tags, making switching subtitles a pain. The only way to prevent this before (aside from messing with codec paths) is to block Haali.so unless you make a genuine attempt to explain why you believe something will not work, I don't know how I can believe you, since it works here. LAV 0.54.1 (or a version in between) apparently solved that problem, so it's no longer an issue. |
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Jrittmayer said: My setup would hang for about 4 seconds too unless "Use GDI or PowerStrip for faster refresh rate detection" was checked in ReClock Video Settings. You might try that if you haven't already (or ignore me, whatever).Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: Tried this and still same results when opening files, it hangs for a good 5 seconds or more then finally loads up. Now we can assume it's not a madVR problem, and not a decoder either. It must be MPC-HC or Haali/LAV Splitter. Since you already removed ReClock that is one less too. You're using MPC-HC or MPC-BE/JanWillem32 build? I actually fiddled a bit more with reclock before giving up on it and the audio works now with no stutter or delay. I'm using the x86 (32-bit) version of MPC-HC as per the download link in your description. |
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katsucats said: LAV 0.54.1 (or a version in between) apparently solved that problem, so it's no longer an issue. Corinthian was having the same problem, I better ask what LAV version he's using. My setup would hang for about 4 seconds too unless "Use GDI or PowerStrip for faster refresh rate detection" was checked in ReClock Video Settings. You might try that if you haven't already (or ignore me, whatever). Funny, just tested that and it really speeds up. I remember reading somewhere that it would make audio stutter instead. I better test some other settings too, thanks for the info. I'll add to the guide. |
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katsucats said: Jrittmayer said: My setup would hang for about 4 seconds too unless "Use GDI or PowerStrip for faster refresh rate detection" was checked in ReClock Video Settings. You might try that if you haven't already (or ignore me, whatever).Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: Tried this and still same results when opening files, it hangs for a good 5 seconds or more then finally loads up. Now we can assume it's not a madVR problem, and not a decoder either. It must be MPC-HC or Haali/LAV Splitter. Since you already removed ReClock that is one less too. You're using MPC-HC or MPC-BE/JanWillem32 build? I actually fiddled a bit more with reclock before giving up on it and the audio works now with no stutter or delay. I'm using the x86 (32-bit) version of MPC-HC as per the download link in your description. THANKYOU Just happened to check this thread and tried what you said before messing around with the player and it definitely did something! Most files open within 1 second or so now! Some still hang a bit but that issue is mainly with larger files. I'm going to test it a bit more later but for now it seems that changing that has fixed 80% of the problem :D If there are any other settings you find that could speed up video launch time that would be greatly appreciated as well :D |
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Jrittmayer said: Most files open within 1 second or so now! Some still hang a bit but that issue is mainly with larger files. I wonder why I didn't noticed that earlier when I checked it, I'm retarded. It's the same for me. I'm going to test it a bit more later but for now it seems that changing that has fixed 80% of the problem :D What are the 20% left? Oh yeah, you can update to madVR 0.85.3 now. |
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Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: Most files open within 1 second or so now! Some still hang a bit but that issue is mainly with larger files. I wonder why I didn't noticed that earlier when I checked it, I'm retarded. It's the same for me. I'm going to test it a bit more later but for now it seems that changing that has fixed 80% of the problem :D What are the 20% left? Oh yeah, you can update to madVR 0.85.3 now. The files that are several Gb large, they used to open almost as fast as smaller files when I used CCCP+Shark 007 Codecs but they didn't seem to get much sped up from changing the option. Still hang for 4-6 seconds :/ hmmmm... Still, this setup is much better now that its fixed :D |
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Jrittmayer said: The files that are several Gb large, they used to open almost as fast as smaller files when I used CCCP+Shark 007 Codecs but they didn't seem to get much sped up from changing the option. Still hang for 4-6 seconds :/ hmmmm... CCCP dithers everything, so it's much faster to open and decode files (too bad it's outdated and come with shitty options). Also, using 2 codec packs at the same time is not a good idea Jritt. madVR uses P010 for output (the best high quality out there for 10-bit) and that takes time. If you try with EVR-CP again I believe the time will go down to 2-3 seconds at least. That's just my assumption though. You seem to have hardware of quality, so I can only give suggestions to such extent. |
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Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: The files that are several Gb large, they used to open almost as fast as smaller files when I used CCCP+Shark 007 Codecs but they didn't seem to get much sped up from changing the option. Still hang for 4-6 seconds :/ hmmmm... CCCP dithers everything, so it's much faster to open and decode files (too bad it's outdated and come with shitty options). Also, using 2 codec packs at the same time is not a good idea Jritt. madVR uses P010 for output (the best high quality out there for 10-bit) and that takes time. If you try with EVR-CP again I believe the time will go down to 2-3 seconds at least. That's just my assumption though. You seem to have hardware of quality, so I can only give suggestions to such extent. I suspect it might have something to do with playing files off of secondary HDD's. My OS boots off an SSD but the majority of my files are located on 3 seperate HDD's. I'll play around with it somemore and report my findings ;) |
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Jrittmayer said: This might be a shot in the dark, but are you using external drives, and are they the power saving 5700rpm "green" drives or the normal 7200rpm? Some drives will automatically spin down quickly to save power and take a couple seconds to come back online.Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: The files that are several Gb large, they used to open almost as fast as smaller files when I used CCCP+Shark 007 Codecs but they didn't seem to get much sped up from changing the option. Still hang for 4-6 seconds :/ hmmmm... CCCP dithers everything, so it's much faster to open and decode files (too bad it's outdated and come with shitty options). Also, using 2 codec packs at the same time is not a good idea Jritt. madVR uses P010 for output (the best high quality out there for 10-bit) and that takes time. If you try with EVR-CP again I believe the time will go down to 2-3 seconds at least. That's just my assumption though. You seem to have hardware of quality, so I can only give suggestions to such extent. I suspect it might have something to do with playing files off of secondary HDD's. My OS boots off an SSD but the majority of my files are located on 3 seperate HDD's. I'll play around with it somemore and report my findings ;) Then again, I have a file server on a separate computer connected through the router, and it only takes me 1-2 seconds to open 45GB files (uncompressed blu-rays), so I don't think it merely being on separate HDDs mean anything. Edit: Another shot in the dark, if you have anti-virus software like Norton running, try disabling them. |
katsucatsDec 15, 2012 4:37 PM
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katsucats said: Jrittmayer said: This might be a shot in the dark, but are you using external drives, and are they the power saving 5700rpm "green" drives or the normal 7200rpm? Some drives will automatically spin down quickly to save power and take a couple seconds to come back online.Niyawa said: Jrittmayer said: The files that are several Gb large, they used to open almost as fast as smaller files when I used CCCP+Shark 007 Codecs but they didn't seem to get much sped up from changing the option. Still hang for 4-6 seconds :/ hmmmm... CCCP dithers everything, so it's much faster to open and decode files (too bad it's outdated and come with shitty options). Also, using 2 codec packs at the same time is not a good idea Jritt. madVR uses P010 for output (the best high quality out there for 10-bit) and that takes time. If you try with EVR-CP again I believe the time will go down to 2-3 seconds at least. That's just my assumption though. You seem to have hardware of quality, so I can only give suggestions to such extent. I suspect it might have something to do with playing files off of secondary HDD's. My OS boots off an SSD but the majority of my files are located on 3 seperate HDD's. I'll play around with it somemore and report my findings ;) Then again, I have a file server on a separate computer connected through the router, and it only takes me 1-2 seconds to open 45GB files (uncompressed blu-rays), so I don't think it merely being on separate HDDs mean anything. Edit: Another shot in the dark, if you have anti-virus software like Norton running, try disabling them. They're all internal 7200RPM SATA drives, two 1 TB and one 2 TB drive. Most of the anime runs off the 2 TB drive. I don't believe they're power saving type drives, since their access time is pretty good good. I don't have any anti-virus running aside from Windows Defender. Not sure if WD causes problems? |
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Jrittmayer said: They're all internal 7200RPM SATA drives, two 1 TB and one 2 TB drive. Most of the anime runs off the 2 TB drive. I don't believe they're power saving type drives, since their access time is pretty good good. I don't have any anti-virus running aside from Windows Defender. Not sure if WD causes problems? Sorry for delay, it's pretty much as katsu said and I don't believe Windows Defender does anything like that. I'm still waiting for my 5 day delay to post in the forums where madshi and nevcairiel are to ask them a couple of questions regarding the issue, sorry I'm not able to help too much. |
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Niyawa said: Kimura said: I used a similar guide from Bishoujo Project and it works nicely. One notable difference between this one and that one is this guide has no mention of hardware acceleration within LAV Video Decoder. Just wondering what your thoughts on this are. First, I don't recommend the use of Bishoujou Project guide. Not just because their guide sucks (don't let me get started with most issues), but because it recommends things that you will never need like madFlac and the useless CoreAVC. They also don't recommend the use of xy-VSFilter that is the best subtitle renderer to date (because of minor issues with Desktop resolution which only people who upscale can sometimes notice). Oh yeah, with this guide like Hakuro said, you won't need hardware acceleration or anything of sort. madVR is GPU oriented so it will use the potential of the CPU and GPU altogether. Basically, they're trying to put in your throat everything that is out there either you'll need it or not. Completely pointless. They don't actually recommend CoreAVC. They say to use LAV Filters unless you absolutely need/want to use CoreAVC. MadFLAC is not useless, it is very good at what it does. You're only saying it's useless because you personally have no use for it. I honestly don't see why you wouldn't use it anyway? What possible drawbacks are there to having MadFLAC handle FLAC? Answer: None. As for the xy-vsfilter argument, to each their own. The default MPC-HC subtitle renderer is awful compared to JanWillem32's engine, that is what Bishoujo recommends. This is their exact comment on why they recommend not using xy-vsfilter: The Bishoujo Project said: Ever since a relatively-recent-but-I’m-too-lazy-to-look-up-exactly-which version of madVR… support for MPC-HC’s internal subtitle engine has been added. This means we don’t have to rely on something (very) shitty like directvodsub. Something unique about the internal subtitle engine is an architectural difference in that it imposes subtitles essentially after all other rendering work has been done. This was brought to light to me by a commenter “CV” and an encoder at Afternoon Naps Empire. This is good in theory, but not in practice because of some scaling issues that mess with typesetting, an issue with anamorphic video scaling because the internal subtitle engine imposes subtitles after the video is re-sized to display resolution, and some bugs with color-space conversion because SD content and HD content use two different color-matrices and if the subtitles are not rendered with the video then a slight difference can occur depending on how the subtitles were typesetted. xy-vsfilter, a more recent fork of vsfilter, fixes most of these issues however it should be noted that because vsfilter applies subtitles before display resolution resizing occurs the subtitles will have a lower resolution to compared to the internal subtitle engine — this is why this guide has been updated to use JanWillem32′s builds of MPC-HC AND NOT XY-VSFILTER (I’m reiterating this here because people not familiar with the internal subtitle engine were misinterpreting this explanation as instructions to use xy-vsfilter. It’s only mentioned because I’m debunking the idea that it’s the best solution.) which fixes, in my opinion, the worst of these issues with the internal subtitle engine in default builds while retaining crisp high-resolution subtitles. Source: http://www.bishoujoproject.com/mpc-hc-playback-guide/ Nonetheless, thank you for putting your time into making this guide. The more people we can get away from using CCCP, K-Lite and VLC, the better. Please look over all the comments in this thread, the bishoujo guide and the comments on that article to improve your guide. Yours and the bishoujo guides are the best I have seen so far. Consolidating all the information should make for one beastly end-all-be-all guide. |
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Tyestor said: They don't actually recommend CoreAVC. They say to use LAV Filters unless you absolutely need/want to use CoreAVC. MadFLAC is not useless, it is very good at what it does. You're only saying it's useless because you personally have no use for it. I honestly don't see why you wouldn't use it anyway? What possible drawbacks are there to having MadFLAC handle FLAC? Answer: None. I don't necessarily want to argue about the use of madFlac, unless of course, you give me a solid reason to do so. What are it's vantages and disadvantages? Would it really be worth putting one more thing to download and deal with? Far as I know, the only thing it does better than LAV decoder is metadata handling (that's also something that was mentioned in Bishoujo guide and I confirmed after a search) and I don't see how that could be enough reason to recommend using it instead of LAV's one. I admit the word "useless" is bit too far, but I don't see it as a "requirement" neither "necessity" when something else already included does a perfect job with it. Tyestor said: As for the xy-vsfilter argument, to each their own. Exactly. Of course, I don't hate/dislike their guide for not recommending xy-VSFilter, but in my personal opinion and experience, performance issues as well the ones they mentioned, were only corrected by using xy-VSFilter itself, thus this is the one I recommend for safety of not only the guide user, but for future problems as well. I really like JanWillem32's builds and I tested it myself, I can confirm that it's the best choice for those who want a decent subtitle renderer without the ugly upscaled subs of the xy-VSFilter version. This is also the reason it's in the guide as an alternative. Tyestor said: Nonetheless, thank you for putting your time into making this guide. The more people we can get away from using CCCP, K-Lite and VLC, the better. Please look over all the comments in this thread, the bishoujo guide and the comments on that article to improve your guide. Yours and the bishoujo guides are the best I have seen so far. Consolidating all the information should make for one beastly end-all-be-all guide. No worries, I've been doing that all the time, the most recent update was thanks to katsu suggestion to Jritt in a ReClock's option that can speed up loading/seeking of video. I'll redo a reading on Bishoujo's guide for your sake and the guide's one as well. I can't refuse after that thanks, haha. |
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Niyawa said: I don't necessarily want to argue about the use of madFlac, unless of course, you give me a solid reason to do so. What are it's vantages and disadvantages? Would it really be worth putting one more thing to download and deal with? Far as I know, the only thing it does better than LAV decoder is metadata handling (that's also something that was mentioned in Bishoujo guide and I confirmed after a search) and I don't see how that could be enough reason to recommend using it instead of LAV's one. I admit the word "useless" is bit too far, but I don't see it as a "requirement" neither "necessity" when something else already included does a perfect job with it. Well, the MadFLAC folder is literally less than 1mb in filesize and it takes 2 clicks to install it and not much extra work to get it working (stop flac from being decoded by LAV audio decoder, add it to the external filters list). Pretty much it. Although you may see it as not worth the effort for something as small as metadata support but I like to have the absolute best that I can get and so does Bishoujo (it's kind of their motto, lol). Maybe add it in as optional? (speaking of optional, why is Haali optional? The majority of anime nowadays is MKV. IIRC Lav Splitter doesn't support ordered chapters for MKV). Niyawa said: No worries, I've been doing that all the time, the most recent update was thanks to katsu suggestion to Jritt in a ReClock's option that can speed up loading/seeking of video. I'll redo a reading on Bishoujo's guide for your sake and the guide's one as well. I can't refuse after that thanks, haha. I don't currently use ReClock in my setup, I think I might do some experimenting with it. Reason hasn't updated the main article since October but he still comments fairly regularly in the comment section. Thanks for your hard work ^^ EDIT: Having never used ReClock before, does it normally mute audio for a split second after unpausing? It's not much of a deal but it's going to get really annoying really fast. |
loghneckbeardDec 16, 2012 10:37 AM
Tyestor said: Well, the MadFLAC folder is literally less than 1mb in filesize and it takes 2 clicks to install it and not much extra work to get it working (stop flac from being decoded by LAV audio decoder, add it to the external filters list). Pretty much it. Although you may see it as not worth the effort for something as small as metadata support but I like to have the absolute best that I can get and so does Bishoujo (it's kind of their motto, lol). Maybe add it in as optional? (speaking of optional, why is Haali optional? The majority of anime nowadays is MKV. IIRC Lav Splitter doesn't support ordered chapters for MKV). The Haali thing is a little mixed up. I actually put it as required through the whole guide, you can see that in the screenshot where you have to deselect Mastroska from LAV Splitter. The fact that I still put it up as "Optional" in the Download section is because the O.C compatibility and accurate seeking is not a "must have" (only a few fansubs use O.C and accurate seeking is not something that bothers anyone). I'll be putting as required again soon my version 4.x.x comes. Haha, I can totally understand the "I like to have the absolute best that I can get". Hell, okay, I'll put it as Optional. But I'll do a retest first as well, to see if it's anything I should add/comment about it. Tyestor said: I don't currently use ReClock in my setup, I think I might do some experimenting with it. Reason hasn't updated the main article since October but he still comments fairly regularly in the comment section. Thanks for your hard work ^^ ReClock is basically useful to remove some of the jitter in 60hz screens with 23.976 content. Again, not a "must have" (the reason it's not as required) but very recommended. Thanks for your input too, It's always helpful to have new views in regarding the topic. Tyestor said: EDIT: Having never used ReClock before, does it normally mute audio for a split second after unpausing? It's not much of a deal but it's going to get really annoying really fast. Yes. It's normal. Check the faq section under "Audio". The first question has the solution for you (probably). |
NiyawaDec 16, 2012 11:10 AM
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TheCorinthian said: GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB or maybe another graphics with SLI? SLI? I don't believe you need that for 1080p Blu-rays. Just the 650 Ti you're about to buy is already enough to play Ultra HD of lastest games with 36 fps. It will be like candy for what you need. For the games that you usually play will be more than enough too. TheCorinthian said: Was looking at an Asus without any onboard video graphics, can't seem to find one without it on New Egg for less than $200 This is another personal recommendation of mine, but an Asus P8H77-M PRO would be my pick, it's around $120. If you're willing to pay $200 for it though, then a P8Z77-V PRO would be the closest by price. I'm impressed you can buy all of this though. Where I live would be a long dream. |
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TheCorinthian said: Sorry for hijacking the thread so much but can you take a look at this motherboard? It seems like it is similar to the one you linked me to without going over $200. It's basically a more simple version of the PRO. It's safe. |
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iShiney said: Works great! Just wondering, what should I set the madVR scaling algorithms to, with 4 GB of RAM, integrated Intel graphics, and dual core 2.50 GHz? Do they make any difference? There's no overwhelmingly strong consensus about what algorithm is the best, so when you have graphics as mediocre as an Intel IGP you should just throw the most intensive video possible at it and see if it drops any frames (Ctrl+J while watching a video will show you how many frames you've dropped). Just play around and find out what your setup is capable of without dropping any frames. Also, you should turn off desktop composition in madVR. It does makes a [small] difference. |
Hakuromatsu said: iShiney said: Works great! Just wondering, what should I set the madVR scaling algorithms to, with 4 GB of RAM, integrated Intel graphics, and dual core 2.50 GHz? Do they make any difference? There's no overwhelmingly strong consensus about what algorithm is the best, so when you have graphics as mediocre as an Intel IGP you should just throw the most intensive video possible at it and see if it drops any frames (Ctrl+J while watching a video will show you how many frames you've dropped). Just play around and find out what your setup is capable of without dropping any frames. Also, you should turn off desktop composition in madVR. It does makes a [small] difference. Adding a little to what he said, since your setup is almost the same as mine, I'll give you my personal recommendation. Usually it will depend on your tastes but Lanczos with 3 taps and AR (anti-ringing) disabled for upscaling will make it look sharper and without lag (for most videos). If it does, set it to Bilinear and it will play flawlessly. For downscaling, Spline with 3 taps will make the best result with no lag and no exceptions (tested it here while using only 1.19 GHz of mine). For chroma upsampling, Bilinear is the choice. I've done some tests and there's basically some to no difference between using anything else aside that Bilinear is much more performance wise. Assuming you're using the latest madVR version, then it's already there by default too. About the desktop composition thing, I don't recommend it. It makes Windows (7) more ugly and the amount of performance gained is not worth it. Unless you really want those 3-4% more of power. |
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Version 4.0.0 Released This version contains the most change since the 2.0.0, I was basically working on it the whole week searching for new apps and new things to improve/add. I finally wrapped it up with some other suggestions and other (useful) parts of other popular guides. Now on to what matters. Highlights
I still believe Bishoujo's project guide sucks to some extent. It could be the perfect one if it had more flexibility and was a little more organized. But Tyestor suggested that I gave it a quick read and I could find something that would be helpful, and indeed I did. Thus their guide is now linked here. The same applies to AVS Forum's guide, it's good, and I did some reading to look for more useful things to add. I'll be taking a look at other guides as well, so if anyone knows any MPC-HC guide out there, link it here with a post so I can evaluate it. It would help not only to solidify this guide information, but improve it as well. My thanks in advance. Now... Enough about that. I believe I'll make it clear that I won't update the guide for 1 week at least. I need to catch up with my list (this is MAL after all). You can also expect some big improvements for version 5.x.x. That includes an image-based guide (for those who want portability) and more in-depth configuration of madVR and LAV Filters. |
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Jrittmayer said: With this update, do I need to change anything I had set up as per your previous version? Not exactly. Some updates may be usually just to apply some changes like updated apps and some new information. But It's recommended. Just keep on reading until you find something that can be improved/changed. I'm thinking about introducing a changelog in version 5.x. It may be helpful in those situations. Jrittmayer said: Also, if so, will you put in how to upgrade/ change settings without having to reinstall everything all over again? :D Just update every filter separately like always. If there's a new madVR version, just extract the new folder onto the old one. If there's a new LAV version, just download the installer and update. There's no secret. |
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maguss said: "Using Reclock with madvr as the renderer isn’t optimal. According to the developer of madvr the software isn’t doing too good with 24p@60Hz yet, which is exactly what Reclock sets the video playback as. To tell you the truth, I was already on the case since 1 month ago. One user of this guide said to me through a private message that he didn't notice any difference between madVR standard and madVR + ReClock and in some cases the playback was even worse. I did some search but didn't find anything absolute and I thought it was just a placebo effect, but with this post it makes clear. Thanks for taking your time searching on the matter, I'll update the guide as soon as I can. |
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| Just had a quick look through your guide, and I see an old piece of information from Nads's guide that wasn't disposed of. 9. Under "rendering" > "general settings" disable the "fullscreen exclusive mode". I recommend leaving this off unless you are having playback problems, because it prevents you from taking screenshots and makes the transition to fullscreen very ugly (It also messes up MPC-HC's interface). There are no issues with taking screenshots with the latest madVR, even in FSE, providing you use the correct shortcuts. Alt+I for the first screenshot (Yes this will cause an ugly change out of FSE because of the save to window) But after the first time, the last folder you saved an image to will be remembered, and you can use F5 to save screenshots with no ugly change out of FSE or any issues. |
RydakoDec 20, 2012 12:40 AM
| Maybe this question has been asked already.. Anyways, I don't understand most of this stuff.. I'll start out with telling you that up until a few days ago, I was using TCMP. I have been having issues with it lately, so I started using VLC instead. It sounds like by following your guide, that the video will look better. I am all for getting a better picture, however I have my graphics card running to my TV. If I follow this guide, will it still help that picture? Or will me viewing anime on my TV mess up the guide? What are the benefits of following your guide, as opposed to using VLC? I just want to make sure I am doing the right thing, sorry for the trouble. I followed the guide, got rid of all the stuff that I previously had.. The only problem I have is lag when starting a video and with seeking also. But maybe that on my end.. I dunno. I have a 3.5ghz , i7.. I followed the guide word for word though. If you have the time, if you could still answer my previous questions that would be awesome. As I am curious as to why its better. Also I saw your reasoning for why using this is better then CCCP, dont know if it is the same for VLC. |
LSanimeDec 19, 2012 11:04 PM
Rydako said: There are no issues with taking screenshots with the latest madVR, even in FSE, providing you use the correct shortcuts. Alt+I for the first screenshot (Yes this will cause an ugly change out of FSE because of the save to window) But after the first time, the last folder you saved an image to will be remembered, and you can use F5 to save screenshots with no ugly change out of FSE or any issues. Thanks for telling me, I'll update as soon as possible. LordSenate said: It sounds like by following your guide, that the video will look better. I am all for getting a better picture, however I have my graphics card running to my TV. If I follow this guide, will it still help that picture? Or will me viewing anime on my TV mess up the guide? This is a little complicated, I've never tested this guide in this way... this is my assumption but I believe it will make it look better too, madVR have a lot of different scaling options, you can set it up by making it sharper or more dull for example. I really can't tell you for sure, I'll make a quick search and edit later. LordSenate said: What are the benefits of following your guide, as opposed to using VLC? First of all, this is something that 99% of people with a good reasoning and fairly knowledge in this section already knows: VLC sucks. It doesn't matter who you ask, it will always be the same answer, and they have a reason to say so. 1. It downscales. (this is already reason enough) 2. It has poor performance. (if you have a reasonable powerful PC you won't see that, but I do) 3. It has horrible seeking. 4. It's internal filters are inferior compared to even sharewares. 5. It has a even worse subtitle renderer. I haven't been using VLC in 2 years, so whether they fixed or made those issues even worse, I don't know. But from what I've heard, nothing changed. LordSenate said: I followed the guide, got rid of all the stuff that I previously had.. The only problem I have is lag when starting a video and with seeking also. But maybe that on my end.. I dunno. I have a 3.5ghz , i7.. I followed the guide word for word though. Strange. Could you give me a screenshot of your filters list? I want to see if everything's being used without issues. LordSenate said: If you have the time, if you could still answer my previous questions that would be awesome. As I am curious as to why its better. I'll answer anything I can. LordSenate said: I just want to make sure I am doing the right thing, sorry for the trouble. No problem. If you ever have anything to tell me don't hold back. Maybe the question you have is the same as someone else, so go ahead and ask. |
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iShiney said: Anyone know the solution to this recent issue: Japanese subtitles would become boxes This is old as fuck. The only reason for this to happen is when the font that needs to be loaded couldn't, or if you're using Windows XP which doesn't seem to be the case. Haali is a little outdated, so if this video you're trying to watch uses the new MKVToolnix (something that I don't remember the name) to fetch the fonts, the only way for it to work is to do this: Go to MPC-HC Options Menu > "External Filters" > Block "Haali Media Splitter" and use LAV Splitter for .mkv instead by re-enabling it on the "Formats" tab. This is also explained in the last question of xy-VSFilter FAQ. |
NiyawaDec 20, 2012 10:27 AM
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Niyawa said: LordSenate said: If you have the time, if you could still answer my previous questions that would be awesome. As I am curious as to why its better. I'll answer anything I can. Thank you for explaining everything.. It seems that I was having problems with an external hard drive, for some reason it was running horribly slow. I am going to re-do everything with the anime on my internal hard drive and try again, I will let you know how it works out. |
yawgmoth said: Can you also include pics for people who manually install Lav filters via the .bat files? Hm... I guess I could include instructions but not pics. If you have enough knowledge to install it using the advanced mode, then you don't need pics for it. madVR also only uses instructions. Though- I don't know why you would prefer the folder version instead of the installer. Is there any reason? Edit: madFlac is optional. That is mentioned in the start of the guide. |
NiyawaDec 20, 2012 8:04 PM
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yawgmoth said: Can you also include how to use this http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154719 Do I need a color calibration device for this? I'll think about doing that in version 6.x maybe. But for now I'd rather not, I don't have enough knowledge in the section so if I try to make a guide for something I'm not sure it's right/wrong, and people start asking questions, it will do more harm than good. what's the diff from this and the one on the first page? it's made by nand but his pic died though My guide of ReClock as optimized for anime quality playback, adapting the media (don't use with madVR) for smooth playback, basically - the video is the main focus here. That one nand made is for WASAPI exclusive bit output (bitstreaming too), basically - the audio is the main focus. |
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yawgmoth said: So your reclock guide is not to be used with madvr? ReClock should not be used with madVR at all if you have a 60hz screen. madVR has issues with 24p@60hz. Of course, if it's 120 Hz or any other exact multiply it's fine (I'm going to include this later in version 4.3). Though if you do have a 120 Hz you won't need adaptation of media. |
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