Dalek-baka said: they are all so desperate and doing those dirty moves (except Silver Link as here it already went down in flames) I don't think I'd call it an act of desperation. Businesses exist to make money and this is just another (common) means to that end. |
Redfoxoffire said: You know, what they're doing is even worse than DLC. So far BD's were more like Collector's Editions.Dalek-baka said: they are all so desperate and doing those dirty moves (except Silver Link as here it already went down in flames) I don't think I'd call it an act of desperation. Businesses exist to make money and this is just another (common) means to that end. I really hope this idea will backfire, not for my sake (at least not in near future, sadly I can't afford importing) but for sake of people who buy those discs. Now imagine that every company starts doing something like that, inspired by JC Staff success (if there is one). jmal said: Ha, I know what you feel, maybe not with VNs but other games and books which wait on shelf for long months. I wanted to play LB! as the season goes on but couldn't find time for it at all, when I don't watch/talk about anime I play Black 2 and even this is going rather slowly.Too hard to find time to play through VNs, especially long ones. I have ones I bought like 2 years ago I haven't gotten to yet... |
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| That's really gimmicky for what will probably be another shitty beach episode (ala J.C. Staff). Dalek-baka said: Are you serious?Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: But they can't skip beach episode in series o.OBeach episode? Probably not. it would be weird |
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DraconisMarch said: That's really gimmicky for what will probably be another shitty beach episode (ala J.C. Staff). Dalek-baka said: Are you serious?Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: But they can't skip beach episode in series o.OBeach episode? Probably not. it would be weird Hopefully not. The only way they would do a beach episode is if they finished Refrain in 26 episodes; which they will not. Seeing as how they're doing more episodes supposedly after this one, We'll get another season for Refrain. Also their is no beach part in Little Busters VN, so this would be going out of the VN entirely. |
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symbv said: Muscle Route? Probably. |
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| This was obvious, but well, as I'm loving the series so far I think I'll end up watching it |
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| lol,blaming j.c for everything is still a trend? it won't be a main plot material...probably ir's "just" muscle sensation. |
| Well.... it's not like fans wouldn't buy all volumes, isn't it? |
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Tyrel said: In the VN? Of course there is Hopefully not. The only way they would do a beach episode is if they finished Refrain in 26 episodes; which they will not. Seeing as how they're doing more episodes supposedly after this one, We'll get another season for Refrain. Also their is no beach part in Little Busters VN, so this would be going out of the VN entirely. Still I think it will be Muscle Sensation or/and Loli Loli Hunters (which would make awesome episode if combined). |
Progeusz said: Some fans in Japan also suspect if it has anything to do with the lackluster pre-sales of the BD, though I am not sure if it is really the case since making one whole episode just as a gift (albeit it is for people who buy all the volumes) takes real cost, but then it is not entirely unbelievable..Wow, that's really dirty move, JC Staff is desperate. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Progeusz said: Some fans in Japan also suspect if it has anything to do with the lackluster pre-sales of the BD, though I am not sure if it is really the case since making one whole episode just as a gift (albeit it is for people who buy all the volumes) takes real cost, but then it is not entirely unbelievable..Wow, that's really dirty move, JC Staff is desperate. If they really cared about the sales that much, they wouldn't have done a rush job with a lower tier studio. They should be happy they're going to get any sales with how low the budget is. |
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Dalek-baka said: Tyrel said: In the VN? Of course there is Hopefully not. The only way they would do a beach episode is if they finished Refrain in 26 episodes; which they will not. Seeing as how they're doing more episodes supposedly after this one, We'll get another season for Refrain. Also their is no beach part in Little Busters VN, so this would be going out of the VN entirely. Though that's not meant for fanservice. Muscle Sensation is most likely for Masato+Kud fans. |
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RyanSaotome said: I am not sure one can call JC Staff a definite low-tier studio. In terms of both output and well-known popular works JC Staff is not low-tier. And you seem to be very certain the budget is very low. While I won't say it is showing anything that indicates big budget, but I also do not see things in the anime that indicates it has really low budget.If they really cared about the sales that much, they wouldn't have done a rush job with a lower tier studio. They should be happy they're going to get any sales with how low the budget is. |
symbvNov 10, 2012 8:25 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| People just like to bitch to J.C Staf. Nothing new. Btw, from what I heard in weekly sales thread, LB is still one of the candidate for top 5 selling of Fall (which is a very strong season) according to estimation, so I don't get the "desperate move" logic. |
zeroyuki92 said: People just like to bitch to J.C Staf. Nothing new. Btw, from what I heard in weekly sales thread, LB is still one of the candidate for top 5 selling of Fall (which is a very strong season) according to estimation, so I don't get the "desperate move" logic. This is the current point totals (took it from /a/) 1. To Love Ru Darkness (4,989) 2. Chuu-2 (4,038) 3. Little Busters (3,289) 4. Girls und Panzer (3,279) 5. JoJos Bizarre Adventure (3,213) 6. Hidamari Sketch (2,519) 7. K (1,557) 8. Jormungard (1,521) 9. Psycho Pass (1,225) 10. Magi (1,021) LB is trending down though.. it'll drop to 5th after a day or two. Should stay above Hidamari for a little bit though. |
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zeroyuki92 said: For weekly sales thread, you mean those in 2ch? Actually what I got from the sales thread in 2ch is that the pre-sales has been weak for weeks now. Btw, from what I heard in weekly sales thread, LB is still one of the candidate for top 5 selling of Fall (which is a very strong season) according to estimation, so I don't get the "desperate move" logic. As RyanSaotome said, the accumulated points for Little Busters may be the fourth (Gintama is strongest in DVD and the list in RyanSaotome's post only covers the BDs) bestselling title, but in terms of new orders it is trending downwards. Looking at the Amazon, it has been hovering below Gintama, GirlPan, Chuunibyou, Hidamari, ToLoveRu D and JoJo for quite a long while. This means it is increasingly doubtful if it can make to top 5 selling if the current trend continues. Granted, with more episodes coming, the story may eventually get people to decide to buy as it seems the recent episode of Komari's route's end apparently prompted a jump in sales for LB! BD in Amazon. But it is not unbelievable that there may be disappointment, if not desperation, on the anime production side. |
symbvNov 10, 2012 8:35 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
zeroyuki92 said: Being in top 5 doesn't mean much if there's only 6-7 contenders. People just like to bitch to J.C Staf. Nothing new. Btw, from what I heard in weekly sales thread, LB is still one of the candidate for top 5 selling of Fall (which is a very strong season) according to estimation, so I don't get the "desperate move" logic. What matters is rank consistency. LB so far has been on a downward trend since the first ep's initial preorder rush most likely from VN players. Rank-wise, LB has been hovering in the 1-200s and hasn't gone past that in like 2 weeks. The only way to tell if it will actually sell well is if today's ep actually boosts its rank out of the 100's and stays there. I've been watching it closely and so far no ep has actually boosted and stabilized its rank. I'm hoping that changes soon. |
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| At the current pace LB is going, it might even be outsold by Kanon 2002... which is likely the worst case scenario. So theres really no wonder why they are trying desperation measures like an extra episode for buying all the BD volumes. It would get hammered hard by not only the fans but the investors if they can't outsell a VN adaption thats known as everything JC Staff didn't want the series to be. |
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Yvese said: Last time I counted there are at least 28 titles competing in this season. Fans in Japan like to put the top 4 bestselling titles of the season on an exalted position. Top 5 is not far from a top-4 honor. And if we count only the serious contenders for the top 5, I would say we have Gintama, GirlPan, Chuunibyou, Hidamari, ToLoveRu D, Magi, JoJo and Psycho-Pass (well at least at the beginning of the season). Some fans want to count Usavitch as well but I am not sue. Being in top 5 doesn't mean much if there's only 6-7 contenders. Yvese said: LB did make it big jump on the night of the 10th from a position of higher 200s (not really sure why) but it is still beyond 100 at around 110. Perhaps the latest episode may boost its sales in the coming days....I've been watching it closely and so far no ep has actually boosted and stabilized its rank. I'm hoping that changes soon. |
symbvNov 10, 2012 9:45 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Yea I saw that jump. Thing is it looks like all of the top 5-6 titles got a boost so it's hard to tell whether the latest ep of LB had much to do with it.Yvese said: Lats time I counted there are at least 28 titles competing in this season. Fans in Japan like to put the top 4 bestselling titles of the season on an exalted position. Top 5 is not far from a top-4 honor. And if we count only the serious contenders for the top 5, I would say we have Gintama, GirlPan, Chuunibyou, Hidamari, ToLoveRu D, Magi, JoJo and Psycho-Pass (well at least at the beginning of the season). Some fans want to count Usavitch as well but I am not sue. Being in top 5 doesn't mean much if there's only 6-7 contenders. Yvese said: LB did make it big jump on the night of the 10th from a position of higher 200s (not really sure why) but it is still beyond 100 at around 110. Perhaps the latest episode may boost its sales in the coming days....I've been watching it closely and so far no ep has actually boosted and stabilized its rank. I'm hoping that changes soon. Still too early to tell. What I'm more surprised with is Girls und Panzer. It's been going up each day and is actually rank 9 now, higher than both Chuunibyou and LB's highest. Pretty impressive. |
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Yvese said: jmal made a good point up there. That big jump from almost 300 to just beyond 100 seems to be the boost from this Blu-Ray Only Episode offer. The effect of the latest episode may need time to show as people may not go to order right after they watch an episode (or they may watch it a bit later as it is recorded). Yea I saw that jump. Thing is it looks like all of the top 5-6 titles got a boost so it's hard to tell whether the latest ep of LB had much to do with it. Still too early to tell. You said other 5-6 titles all got a boost? Which titles and was it at the same time (i.e. in the night of the 10th)? Were the jumps on the same scale as Little Busters? Off-Topic: Just found that Total Eclipse Vol.1 jumped back to 24th in Amazon !! Clearly due to Amazon cutting the price of this BD to 30% of its rack price! |
symbvNov 10, 2012 9:54 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: They didn't get the same boost as LB since LB was much lower than all of them. I was just pointing out that looking at the rankings, the top 5-6 have all gone up. TLRD for example was near the 200's but now it's near the 100's. Same with Jojo. All in the same time period as LB.Yvese said: jmal made a good point up there. That big jump from almost 300 to just beyond 100 seems to be the boost from this Blu-Ray Only Episode offer. The effect of the latest episode may need time to show as people may not go to order right after they watch an episode (or they may watch it a bit later as it is recorded). Yea I saw that jump. Thing is it looks like all of the top 5-6 titles got a boost so it's hard to tell whether the latest ep of LB had much to do with it. Still too early to tell. You said other 5-6 titles all got a boost? Which titles and was it at the same time (i.e. in the night of the 10th)? Were the jumps on the same scale as Little Busters? Obviously though this announcement boosted LB from the mid-upper 200's which is a good sign. |
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| ^ A new episode often boosts the sales of the BD, but without actually comparing the broadcast date and the time when the boost occurred it is just a guess. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
zeroyuki92 said: LB! was supposed to be top seller of the season and it certainly looked like that at first. As the time goes on (and actual anime isn't any better, if anything, it's getting worse) it becomes more obvious it won't get #1, it's out of top3 already and might fall even harder. Top5 (maybe even not) is terrible result for LB!People just like to bitch to J.C Staf. Nothing new. Btw, from what I heard in weekly sales thread, LB is still one of the candidate for top 5 selling of Fall (which is a very strong season) according to estimation, so I don't get the "desperate move" logic. Interesting, so they did get attention of some otaku with announcement of bonus episode. Still, those are only pre-orders and might get canceled if this and next arc aren't handled well. Oh right, question to knowledgeable people. When someone orders pre-order, cancels it and then orders it again (let's say, after a week) is it counted twice? Is that one of the reasons why most of anime are (were) overestimated? btw MuvLuv already #19, yay, I like this series more with every episode. P.S. Anyone knows what happened with amaran? All data before 10/11 disappeared... |
jmal said: Actually I was talking about those other anime titles that Yvese said also showed a jump in ranking: " I was just pointing out that looking at the rankings, the top 5-6 have all gone up.". Without comparing the time of the broadcast and the episode airing time it is hard to say if those jumps were caused by a new episode for that anime being aired. symbv said: ^ A new episode often boosts the sales of the BD, but without actually comparing the broadcast date and the time when the boost occurred it is just a guess. The episode aired at 2012/11/10 22:30 on Tokyo MX, and on 3 other stations 3-4 hours later. However, the jump started almost a day earlier, around when this news came out: 【2012年 11月 09日 22時(金)】 ***,307位 【2012年 11月 09日 23時(金)】 ***,346位 【2012年 11月 10日 00時(土)】 ***,272位 【2012年 11月 10日 01時(土)】 ***,193位 【2012年 11月 10日 02時(土)】 ***,193位 【2012年 11月 10日 03時(土)】 ***,155位 【2012年 11月 10日 04時(土)】 ***,113位 By the time the episode aired , it was already around 100-120. For Little Busters, it is clear that the jump was too early for the latest episode to have any effect (as it was not shown yet). |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| The next few episode summaries have been leaked... looks like pretty much confirmed that Refrain will be a full season, not an ova or whatever some people were thinking. And certainly impossible at this point to fit Refrain into the first season. Next 4 episodes will all be common route, so we won't see the next girl route until 11th episode at the earliest. |
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| They must do Muscle Sensation. The only real route of Little Busters. Kinniku Yay Yay!! Kinniku Yay Yay!! |
| Blu ray episode has been confirmed to include mask the saito :D |
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blubberflub said: Blu ray episode has been confirmed to include mask the saito :D YAY! |
Pandita088 said: blubberflub said: Blu ray episode has been confirmed to include mask the saito :D YAY! Got any source on that? That would be amazing if they did! :D |
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| WTF!!! Little busters is good enough too pull in the dough. No need for the gimmicks. |
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Kratos_Ortega said: Pandita088 said: blubberflub said: Blu ray episode has been confirmed to include mask the saito :D YAY! Got any source on that? That would be amazing if they did! :D It was posted on the official website when the first bd was being sold |
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| It is such a pain in the butt. Have to buy all the volumes, get an ¥800 money order for shipping, mailing the nine proofs of purchase and the money order in within a month after volume nine comes out August 28th. This reminds me of special offers from the 80's... Man, whatta pain... |
| It will be another Heroine route or a Spin-off chapter, I´m pretty sure. |
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| yay! Mask the Saito! when i first met him in the game i was all: "who dafuq is this guy?" but when he started talking normally i was all lol, looking forward to it! ^^ |
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TimeToRepent said: It will be another Heroine route or a Spin-off chapter, I´m pretty sure. Like the others said, since the first volume of the LB! BD release, it's confirmed that Mask the Saito will be in the OVA (check the LB! anime site for the source). Mask the Saito = battles. I'm hoping that the heroines will be able to use their signature weapons in the OVA. (especially Mio. Her science club weapons are hillarious) I'm sick of seeing Masato losing all the time in the anime -__-;; |
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