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Nov 6, 2012 2:57 PM
#1
the one jumping the shark moment is the one where bardock from dragon ball z goes back in time in the bardock episode * that episode pissed me off |
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Nov 6, 2012 3:01 PM
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Nov 6, 2012 3:02 PM
#3
Shiveron said: wtf is a jumping the shark moment http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JumpingTheShark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark http://www.google.com |
Nov 6, 2012 3:05 PM
#4
Paul said: Shiveron said: wtf is a jumping the shark moment http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JumpingTheShark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark [url=http://www.google.com/search?q=jumping+the+shark&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS431US431&oq=jumping+the+shark&sugexp=chrome,mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8]http://www.google.com Wikipedia said: Fonzie (Henry Winkler) answers a challenge to his bravery by wearing swim trunks and his trademark leather jacket, and jumping over a confined shark. How on earth does something like that coin an entire phrase describing plot shifts? |
Nov 6, 2012 3:10 PM
#5
It's not a plot shift but a drop in overall quality or enjoyment. And how does it happen? It's an idiom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom They happen, not because you understand them but because a whole bunch of people that are not you, use it. |
Nov 6, 2012 3:13 PM
#6
(This is going to piss some people off I'm sure.) In episode 2 (was it?) in Mirai Nikki, when Yuki summons enough courage to convince himself that he needs to take some action, but reverts back to a whiny little shit immediately after the conflict. That was a "jumping the shark" moment for me, even though I did watch it further just to confirm it. |
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Nov 7, 2012 6:43 AM
#7
katsucats said: (This is going to piss some people off I'm sure.) In episode 2 (was it?) in Mirai Nikki, when Yuki summons enough courage to convince himself that he needs to take some action, but reverts back to a whiny little shit immediately after the conflict. That was a "jumping the shark" moment for me, even though I did watch it further just to confirm it. ^Why it became unenjoyable for me. |
Nov 7, 2012 7:20 AM
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Nov 7, 2012 7:46 AM
#9
lionheart04 said: Haruhi Suzumiya no yuutsu Endless 8 This. |
Nov 7, 2012 1:42 PM
#10
AngelicTsundere said: katsucats said: (This is going to piss some people off I'm sure.) In episode 2 (was it?) in Mirai Nikki, when Yuki summons enough courage to convince himself that he needs to take some action, but reverts back to a whiny little shit immediately after the conflict. That was a "jumping the shark" moment for me, even though I did watch it further just to confirm it. ^Why it became unenjoyable for me. Except "jumping the shark" hinges on a something being established and then running out of ideas. Episode 2! of goddamn series that has 12 or more episodes is neither that show being established nor them running out of ideas. If you didn't like it at episode 2 then look for a fitting idiom/phrase for it but jumping the shark doesn't apply. |
Nov 7, 2012 1:44 PM
#11
Guilty Crown episode 2 and SAO episode..I guess it was episode 4. Transfer students and clichee loli fanservice episodes are obvious indicators if you ask me. |
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Nov 7, 2012 2:15 PM
#12
Nidhoeggr said: Guilty Crown episode 2 and SAO episode..I guess it was episode 4. Transfer students and clichee loli fanservice episodes are obvious indicators if you ask me. Transfer students happen yes? No way should any anime avoid transfer students just because it is cliche? The answer is no writer needs to avoid cliches and for that matter there is noway to avoid cliches in a story. Being unavoidable isn't sign that the writers ran out of ideas and the fact it was done for introductory purposes means there are more ideas are going to be used to explore the character in later episodes. And clearly they didn't run out of ideas and had a plan for GC that they followed. Plus it hard to say an anime adaptation jumped the shark when the source did not and the adaptation at the time only produced so little of the source. |
Nov 8, 2012 7:13 AM
#13
An episode of Detective Conan when some dude wearing a suit and a red tie kicks Conan. Then a three letter word with three exclamation points comes afterwards. |
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Nov 8, 2012 10:52 AM
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Nov 8, 2012 1:35 PM
#15
Death Note, after episode 25. Still a great anime in my opinion, but there was a big dropoff after that. |
Nov 8, 2012 2:20 PM
#16
From what I saw, anything in Bleach after the arc where they went to rescue Rukia and up til the point I dropped it. The entirety of Code Geass season 2. Battle Angel Alita: Last Order's tournament arc(s). Most Gundam series after Zeta that just shamelessly rips off the old plot structures. |
Nov 8, 2012 2:29 PM
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TrickedOutHoro said: lionheart04 said: Haruhi Suzumiya no yuutsu Endless 8 This. You really think so? I don't. |
Nov 8, 2012 2:33 PM
#18
TrickedOutHoro said: lionheart04 said: Haruhi Suzumiya no yuutsu Endless 8 This. But guys... the movie came after that. |
Nov 8, 2012 3:49 PM
#19
A few that I can recall: Accel World: The NTR story arc Pandora Hearts: Toward the end. I can't remember the exact details, but I think the anime producers were making stuff up as a way of ending the anime. The anime felt very different when it hit that point. Code Geass R2: When Lelouch decided to take it upon himself and become the ultimate bad guy to everybody. That was when I lost interest. Inuyasha: Shortly after the fourth time the main group of the characters got together and said, "Once again this looks like it was caused by Naraku!! Kare Kano: When the story pacing dragged around the time of the school festival arc. Then the presentation turned psychedelic as if someone was high on peyote. |
Nov 8, 2012 3:57 PM
#20
Shinsekai Yori Episode 5 man that episode was so weird and character drawing was so bad it still give me nightmares.... |
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Nov 8, 2012 4:02 PM
#21
Animefreak17a said: the one jumping the shark moment is the one where bardock from dragon ball z goes back in time in the bardock episode * that episode pissed me off the threads you make are kinda weird and that bardock episode waas a ova/special,something for the fans,a what if scenario,it has nothing to do with the plots and they didn't jumped the shark since it doesn't affect the story |
Nov 8, 2012 6:37 PM
#23
Nidhoeggr said: no.Guilty Crown episode 2 and SAO episode..I guess it was episode 4. Transfer students and clichee loli fanservice episodes are obvious indicators if you ask me. |
Nov 8, 2012 8:41 PM
#24
Terence_T said: A few that I can recall: Code Geass R2: When Lelouch decided to take it upon himself and become the ultimate bad guy to everybody. That was when I lost interest. ] That was a main point of his plan... If he acted all nice, everyone would have liked him. He had to make people hate him in order to have his "Destroy it, then rebuild far greater than before" objective. |
Nov 8, 2012 9:33 PM
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Nov 8, 2012 9:36 PM
#26
DrunkenBlowfish said: Eureka 7 When Renton and Eureka write their names in the moon. oh yeah looooool thats a good one |
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Nov 8, 2012 10:02 PM
#27
Pretty sure that most of you don't quite get what "jumping the shark" means. That Eureka 7 one is a decent example. Most of the others, not so much. You can't "jump the shark" in episode 2 of a series people. It has to have an established consistency of quality and then all of the sudden, some ludicrous event happens that is out of place and makes you say, "Really? Did that just happen? Why?" |
Nov 8, 2012 10:55 PM
#28
DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. |
Nov 8, 2012 11:22 PM
#29
jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. It's ridiculous to even consider that a "jumping the shark" anyway, considering the fact at that point there has already been fishmen in the story. And, at that point, though it's several dozen episodes into the show, One Piece is still very much still building it's world and introducing characters. |
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Nov 8, 2012 11:39 PM
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insan3soldiern said: Yup doesn't count as one.jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. It's ridiculous to even consider that a "jumping the shark" anyway, considering the fact at that point there has already been fishmen in the story. And, at that point, though it's several dozen episodes into the show, One Piece is still very much still building it's world and introducing characters. |
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Nov 8, 2012 11:40 PM
#31
jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. I didn't watch them successively. I first watched One Piece back in 2004, before we had things like You Tube and Crunchyroll, so if I missed an episode one Saturday morning, then I missed that episode. That's all there was to it. |
Nov 9, 2012 12:36 AM
#32
lionheart04 said: Haruhi Suzumiya no yuutsu Endless 8 This was definitely a low in the series but the series was able to recover and even improve. MetaKlonoa said: Death Note, after episode 25. Still a great anime in my opinion, but there was a big dropoff after that. Definitely this. Literally a drop from masterpiece to garbage. And as others have mentioned, Bleach and R2 are big ones too. |
Nov 9, 2012 2:07 AM
#33
Hmm...would it count in Ore no imouto when: Kirino becomes a bestselling novelist and THEN also gets her series turned into an anime. Seriously? She's like 13 years old and is a bestselling author, even when they clearly state her writing skills are awful. Made me hate the show a bit more from then on out. And I feel that the last few episodes of Black Cat could fit in here too. |
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Nov 9, 2012 4:09 AM
#34
Hanasaku Iroha Guy kidnaps highschool girl, ties her up in bondage, tries to commit suicide in repentance, gets saved by some other high school girl who leaps off a 30 foot cliff into rushing waters to do so, and then gets forgiven after a bullshit one piece style speach about "trying your hardest" yep that didn't take long. |
Nov 9, 2012 4:12 AM
#35
School Days pretty much jumped the shark for harem genre. |
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Nov 9, 2012 4:33 AM
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Nov 9, 2012 7:41 AM
#37
DrunkenBlowfish said: jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. I didn't watch them successively. I first watched One Piece back in 2004, before we had things like You Tube and Crunchyroll, so if I missed an episode one Saturday morning, then I missed that episode. That's all there was to it. So I guess you know why your argument doesn't apply to this thread, since 1) you didn't watch it successively, therefore not being able to notice a trend and 2) you watched 13 non-consecutive episodes in a series with such a clearly continuous story (to the point that most endings are cliffhangers a la "what will happen in the next episode?"). I won't make a fuss if you consider the idea you put in spoiler to be ridiculous. However talking about a jump in the shark moment requires giving continuity to what you watch and being able to put it in context in the whole. |
Nov 9, 2012 8:47 AM
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Nov 9, 2012 9:40 AM
#39
jal90 said: You forgot to mention that he was most likely watching the 4Kids dub of One Piece, with all of its censorship, considering he mentioned watching it on Saturday Mornings.DrunkenBlowfish said: jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. I didn't watch them successively. I first watched One Piece back in 2004, before we had things like You Tube and Crunchyroll, so if I missed an episode one Saturday morning, then I missed that episode. That's all there was to it. So I guess you know why your argument doesn't apply to this thread, since 1) you didn't watch it successively, therefore not being able to notice a trend and 2) you watched 13 non-consecutive episodes in a series with such a clearly continuous story (to the point that most endings are cliffhangers a la "what will happen in the next episode?"). I won't make a fuss if you consider the idea you put in spoiler to be ridiculous. However talking about a jump in the shark moment requires giving continuity to what you watch and being able to put it in context in the whole. |
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Nov 9, 2012 9:51 AM
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It's nice knowing a new term as this one o: Yup, Suzumiya Haruhi... |
Nov 9, 2012 10:41 AM
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jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. I didn't watch them successively. I first watched One Piece back in 2004, before we had things like You Tube and Crunchyroll, so if I missed an episode one Saturday morning, then I missed that episode. That's all there was to it. So I guess you know why your argument doesn't apply to this thread, since 1) you didn't watch it successively, therefore not being able to notice a trend and 2) you watched 13 non-consecutive episodes in a series with such a clearly continuous story (to the point that most endings are cliffhangers a la "what will happen in the next episode?"). I won't make a fuss if you consider the idea you put in spoiler to be ridiculous. However talking about a jump in the shark moment requires giving continuity to what you watch and being able to put it in context in the whole. You're right. One Piece shouldn't be counted. To say it has a shark moment would imply that it had a high point as well, but what Chopper was to me, even as a kid, was the culmination of stupid on top of all the dumb things that series threw at me that ultimately made me quit, and let me remind you, this was back when Yu-Gi-Oh! was a thing. My dumb ass was willing to watch more Yu-Gi-Oh! than One Piece, and that says a lot. In fact I think it was One Piece that made me take a second look at anime like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King and realize just how stupid they were. In that sense it is the ultimate shark moment in that it killed not only One Piece but many other kid anime in the same way the shark scene killed Happy Days. |
Nov 9, 2012 10:50 AM
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Nov 9, 2012 11:08 AM
#43
DrunkenBlowfish said: jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: jal90 said: DrunkenBlowfish said: One Piece Chopper the talking reindeer. You sure had to get a very weird version of the show to get this at episode 13. I didn't watch them successively. I first watched One Piece back in 2004, before we had things like You Tube and Crunchyroll, so if I missed an episode one Saturday morning, then I missed that episode. That's all there was to it. So I guess you know why your argument doesn't apply to this thread, since 1) you didn't watch it successively, therefore not being able to notice a trend and 2) you watched 13 non-consecutive episodes in a series with such a clearly continuous story (to the point that most endings are cliffhangers a la "what will happen in the next episode?"). I won't make a fuss if you consider the idea you put in spoiler to be ridiculous. However talking about a jump in the shark moment requires giving continuity to what you watch and being able to put it in context in the whole. You're right. One Piece shouldn't be counted. To say it has a shark moment would imply that it had a high point as well, but what Chopper was to me, even as a kid, was the culmination of stupid on top of all the dumb things that series threw at me that ultimately made me quit, and let me remind you, this was back when Yu-Gi-Oh! was a thing. My dumb ass was willing to watch more Yu-Gi-Oh! than One Piece, and that says a lot. In fact I think it was One Piece that made me take a second look at anime like Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King and realize just how stupid they were. In that sense it is the ultimate shark moment in that it killed not only One Piece but many other kid anime in the same way the shark scene killed Happy Days. What are you saying anyway? The point is not that you are bashing One Piece, but that you are misusing the term "jumping the shark". |
Nov 9, 2012 11:23 AM
#44
jal90 said: .... Before thi spirred into a really REALLY pointless argument I'm just going to cut it off. Hell, its even attracted one of MAL's most stubborn users, Anime_Name. That being said this conversation would be about as fruitful as trying to talk some sense into Mitt Romney fans, so I'm just going to end it with, who gives a shit? |
Nov 9, 2012 8:43 PM
#45
Episode 14 of Sword Art Online. It's recovering now but I feel that it was shoddy and rushed conclusion to the arc. Just when I was starting to really enjoy it, they take it away from me. |
Nov 10, 2012 12:44 AM
#46
Asu no Yoichi! ridiculous attempts at trying to create drama... Ikki tousen for being completely ridiculous and maken ki. Bleach with the whole Aizen thing and then it just spiraling downhill from there for me. Most of bleach fit this criteria because they always managed to outdo the first attempt of him losing his power and regaining it... |
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Nov 10, 2012 1:37 AM
#47
Anime_Name said: Yes, "killed" in the sense that the shows(One Piece and Happy Days) continued on basking in their popularity and topping TV ratings for years after their supposed jumping the shark moment. Regardless...you cannot deny the ridiculousness of what happened. That's the point. The story turned ridiculous regardless if people stop watching it. Right? |
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Nov 10, 2012 1:53 AM
#48
what do you think... Ano Hana last ep when everyone shouts the dead girl's name. |
Nov 10, 2012 9:06 AM
#49
lovelydeath said: Except that it wasn't ridiculous, the One Piece world is full of mermaids, cyborgs, giants, weird powers, and 20 episodes before they had already seen a whale as big as a mountain and was inside it's stomach that was painted like the sky. So it wasn't a jumping the shark moment because One Piece has always been weird and full of fantasy(as in that's not a big ridiculous moment, if you look at it alone then it might seem that way). And since that was in the first 80 episodes of the show, I think we can be sure that no one has stopped watching it, and or the quality hasn't dropped, as in that arc was not the highpoint of the show.Anime_Name said: Yes, "killed" in the sense that the shows(One Piece and Happy Days) continued on basking in their popularity and topping TV ratings for years after their supposed jumping the shark moment. Regardless...you cannot deny the ridiculousness of what happened. That's the point. The story turned ridiculous regardless if people stop watching it. Right? |
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Nov 10, 2012 9:45 AM
#50
Yep. I fail to see what is supposed to be so ridiculous in comparison with the rest of the show. Even before that we had that whale, several fishmen (and an octopusman), a giant dog or a dude who fought with explosive snot. |
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