Shinsekai yori Episode 5 Discussion

AirStyles said:


If you're uncomfortable with different culture/society....

avoid Southern China, some Island Nation, Eskimos...

Oh yeah, Japan too, they have bath house where family bath together. Heck, i even seen picture of a whole class of University Student take picture together in a public bath.(naked btw)


EDIT: Am I the only one who's not bothered by the supposed sex-scene? I'm pretty much "accepted" the fact that they're "programmed" to be like bonobos.

AirStyles said:

EDIT: Am I the only one who's not bothered by the supposed sex-scene? I've pretty much "accepted" the fact that they're "programmed" to be like bonobos.

symbv said:

You must have forgotten me....
Anyway, I would not say they are "programmed" -- I would say that it is nature (perhaps the scientists did some gene change to make it more likely to happen) and nurture (Saki's mom was shown teaching Saki, and there is also "rules about sex" that actively encourages homosexual and underaged sex contact which are taught in schools).

AirStyles said:
@symbv
But you're different, you're from JP. And you've read the book. (lucky bastard... I want traslation)

@Zeally

If that's the case....

Avoid Southern China(some mountain tribe may overwhelm you) and Eskimo(wife sharing may overwhelm you) country.

Zeally said:

wait where was this? Saki's mom teaching Saki about sex? Is this in the novel? lol

symbv said:

Parents should play an active role in providing sexual education to their children. In fact I hope the same can happen in our world too - sex education should not be left entirely to school or for the children to find out by themselves.

deave112 said:
My God:

AirStyles said:

EDIT: Am I the only one who's not bothered by the supposed sex-scene? I've pretty much "accepted" the fact that they're "programmed" to be like bonobos.

AirStyles said:


What's this about?

And spoiler your large image.

deave112 said:


It's No. 6 all over again!

No. 6 is this show http://myanimelist.net/anime/10161/No.6

AirStyles said:


...

Sorry, I don't get it...

Are you saying the story is a rip off?
Are you saying the director is screwing this up like he did No. 6?
Are you saying the character design are similar?

in short

Get, to, the, point.

SetsukoHara said:


Yea I'm not bothered by this story wise since they did explain it, it just bothers me on a personal level so it's just a personal opinion XD. I still think the anime is gonna be great regardless!

HongISfirE said:
The animation, i thought it only my imagination. So it really bad LOL
The pacing really bad. Maybe they want to time skip as fast as possible so we can got proper SEX scene :D

MyAmy said:
the scene when Saki and Satoru was alone together makes me think that "aren't they a little bit too young to be doing that ?!"

yellowwolf said:
If i understand it right , they learn sex from their parents and school. They do it a lot but she stops doing it just because a library told them that they are like bonobos and she denies it ? or im mixing anime and novel together?

walk said:
LOLOLOL saki is such a tease omg. "i'll do it, stay still. wait no nvm --"

walk said:
... is it just me or does the art style look different
all the characters look slightly older and taller

SephiriAzure said:


I have to agree. At times I felt like Satoru and Shun looked mischievous, or like they were up to something bad...I don't know it was just weird throughout the whole episode, although surprisingly it did not keep me from enjoying it : )

Amon-Raw said:


Although I think Satoru is the best of the group I bet she wouldn't have stopped herself if it was the Shun that's for sure.

Yumekichi11 said:
But she did do something in the spoiler

captchaluff said:
Despite the WTF animation, I liked it. It was by no stretch as good as the last 4 episodes, but had a shipping eureka, and was disturbed at certain parts, which I think was the whole point.
And the sexing
No
Just no

walk said:
... is it just me or does the art style look different
all the characters look slightly older and taller

-MgZ_ said:
What's with the mother fucking massive animation quality drop?

Rykee said:
Grr, Why are you all complaining about the animation? I liked it. This gave the anime a mysterious vibe.

Lelouch22 said:
This was an excellently intense, emotionally complex episode that was unfortunately diminished by it’s flawed execution and incoherent storytelling. Due to the poor direction and editing, the pacing was a bit too scattered and inconsistent. On the other hand, in terms of the continuing narrative, this episode was as immensely satisfying as those that have preceded it.

The most intriguing development from the episode is that two queerat colonies, the native Robber Fly Colony and the foreign Ground Spider Colony, are warring against one another, and that the Robber Fly Colony is losing. Their imminent plight is a sympathetic one, since Squealer indicated that their tribe, should they lose, would be punished with an unending slavery; an existence of cruel suffering. It appears likely that a sizable portion of the furtherance of the developing narrative will directly involve this war that Saki and Satoru have unwittingly, yet irrevocably entangled themselves in; a war that will potentially influence their lives in a significant fashion. It was rather surprising, though not entirely unexpected, that a queerat appeared who could be understood by Saki and Satoru, since he speaks their language. It will be interesting to see if an explanation is given to provide a reason for his seemingly unique ability. Though I could be forgetting some previously revealed information, this could potentially be a result of the temporary removal of their Cantus.

My favorite sequence involved the affectionate interactions between Saki and Satoru. There was a sort of awkward tranquility in these scenes that is entirely isolated from the rest of the episode. These complicated moments of intimacy were portrayed excellently, subtly illustrating a struggle between logical restraint and an awakened desire for sexual exploration. There was a purposeful, but nuanced incoherence that essentially illuminated the plethora of divergent, chaotic emotions that both Satoru and Saki felt. Another terrific scene was Saki and Satoru’s encounter with the queen at the bottom of the queerat nest. This entire sequence was suffused with a visual disorientation that was rather effective in evoking a sense of suspenseful dread. The final scene, though rather difficult to fully understand, seemed to imply, following Satoru’s piercing of a particularly flexible cave wall and the organic substance that subsequently emanated from the crack, that the cave partially collapsed.

Saki's complex, intuitive characterization was evident throughout, particularly in her intimate interactions with Satoru, as, after she’s haunted by their growing similarity to the bonobos, she refrains from attempting to oblige her temporary curiosity. The interactions between Saki and Satoru were particularly great, and, as they're effectively isolated from the others, this allows for a deeper level of development between them, since, rather than the playful hostility that typically occurred, their interactions are no longer devoid of sentiment and emotion. There was also a significant amount of interesting character development, particularly in regards to Satoru, who’s shown to be considerably capable and useful, highlighted most notably throughout the latter half of the episode, in which he killed the queerat who guarded their cage and created an explosion that partially destroyed the cave. Aside from those two, I love the manner in which Shun is being gradually depicted as an occasionally callous individual, constantly aware of inherent danger, yet fully willing to indulge his curiosity for risk, seemingly without much of an inclination for sympathy, as, in these fleeting moments, he can become unaware of the others. Perhaps this minutia of foreboding characterization foreshadows an eventual descent into darkness.

Yamauchi's surrealistic direction was definitely the weakest element of the episode. There was a noticeable lack of restraint, particularly when it came to the close-ups, which, by themselves, are rather excellent in their ability to effectively portray the complexity of various emotions, but they were considerably overused. His unique style would likely complement a brief sequence, such as the historical preludes that opened earlier episodes, wonderfully, but, as it is, stretching it over an entire episode was an obvious mistake, since it really doesn't lend itself to narrative coherency. There was also some rather poor editing and scene transitions were far too confusing much of the time, faltering into this unfortunate disconnect between shots during a plethora of important sequences. Although there was, perhaps, a heightened level of tension, the action was handled with a chaotic touch that, for the most part, missed the mark completely, due largely to the over-abundance of close-ups.

This episode was visually fantastic, establishing an atmosphere that perfectly complemented the unsettling, claustrophobic nature of the episode. The background art was beautifully varied and visually striking. It was a decidedly unique aesthetic, but I felt that it worked quite well. The animation, however, was disappointingly inconsistent and stiff. I also wasn’t particularly fond of the altered character designs, as, unlike the usual designs, they’re not nearly as well-suited for motion. Musically, the episode was rather satisfying, though there were several selections that weren’t as impressive as the others, but, thankfully, none that were especially jarring.

All in all, despite a temporary decline in execution, From the New World remains an exceptionally well-written tale of naïve children becoming lost in the unprotected edges of their strange, desolate society. I’m really looking forward to the next episode, since the preview suggests that, once again, the story will focus on Saki and Satoru's experiences, as they try to escape, potentially assisting in the war against the foreign queerat colony. I'm also hoping that we‘ll find out what happened to the others.

Zeally said:
The only explanation for her over the top borderline sex act is they were genetically predisposed to become "horny during stressful events" according to the organic library creature.

Zeally said:


the anime doesn't indicate anything about their parents or school teaching them about sex. If anything they seem to be hiding most of the functions of society away from their children. I'm assuming this is how they are built as explained by the library. (high stress makes you horny impulse) I still think it's a wishy washy explanation though. Maybe the novel is better at explaining this

walk said:
... is it just me or does the art style look different
all the characters look slightly older and taller

IZEROII said:
The shear fact that these are KIDS and they are instinctually "venting" in a very adult act is just highlighting the plot point emphasized in the previous episode. It's like an algorithm built into people which is actually kinda messed up but this is different world, etc, etc.

IZEROII said:

Whether they had sex, almost had sex, didn't have sex is irrelevant. The shear fact that these are KIDS and they are instinctually "venting" in a very adult act is just highlighting the plot point emphasized in the previous episode.

Kenta_Maebara said:
I'm surprised very few are discussing just how interesting the premise is getting.

symbv said:
Also I want to qualify the "they do it a lot" part.
First, they don't really do it a lot like every day, but it can be imagined that perhaps it is something that happens a few times a month.
Second, the "moral codes" do not treat all kind of sex the same. In particular, heterosexual intercourse is not allowed for underaged pair, apparently because of concern about premature pregnancy. However, homosexual sex, heterosexual sex not involving intercourse, and promiscuity is allowed, even encouraged.