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Sep 17, 2012 2:58 AM

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just my conclusion on episode 12

-He manage to fake his death through the help of Hanzou and Zenki (considering Zenki has an ability to transform and Hanzou is a ninja with lot of tricks on his sleeves).

-Hanzou take Yoshiharu on Mikawa and the only characters known this is Zenki together with his master Hanbei and Motoyasu the future Ieyasu.

-during his time of death the Asakura and Asai focusing too much on the Oda and on that time he secretly use that very moment too convice the Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo or some clans on east to aid Nobuna.

-As for Juubei she is probably alive but take some few scratches and will be on Yoshiharu's side upon saving Nobuna with some clan he succesfully convince to help.

and that's all it's just a conclusion I've made on the ending(if ever that will be the last one). But who knows maybe on episode 12 the story won't end and their will be a 2nd season after all the only clans that have shown is the east side.
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Sep 17, 2012 4:11 AM

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how sagara jump to sengoku era is still unknown.. hha
hope last ep or the 2nd season will explain it
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Sep 17, 2012 4:45 AM
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And another brilliant episode from one of the top anime of the summer season.

The Monkey General is immortal!

5/5
Sep 17, 2012 5:01 AM

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Actually, if this had been the last episode, the show might have managed to redeem itself somewhat. Now, I'll just have to wait for the MC and the girl to make their comeback and have Nobuna realize how messed up she is currently. My main worry is that it's going to be rushed as hell. 2/5.
Sep 17, 2012 5:02 AM

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Well Monkey might be alive :)) as you may the one who make the bomb explode is a Shinobi and he use Substitute no Jutsu to make Monkey escape... well Let's see how the series progresses the last episode next week well I'm really looking forward for season 2 coz they say Nobuna will conquer the world? :))


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Sep 17, 2012 6:05 AM

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Not sure that Saru is dead, I suspect that Hanzou used some trick to fake Saru's death
A really intense episode
Sep 17, 2012 7:04 AM

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Did the show rack in enough pre orders and what not for a season 2?
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Sep 17, 2012 8:26 AM

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A Damn awful episode. Well, propably because the anime itself is prettty awful.
Things wrong with it.
1. Monkey is obviously alive.
2. In knew that chick is working for the evil dudes after she joined Nobuna.
3. Are those women really that stupid to fall for her trickery? (yes)
But really, what do I get if the Monkey is still alive? I bet all my belongings on Monkey being alive. 100% gurantee I will win. It's not even fair.
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Sep 17, 2012 8:54 AM
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still no Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo.
We need a season 2. it really feels rushed.
Sep 17, 2012 9:37 AM

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I checked last week and the pre-orders were +3,500. Which is a lot better than expected, and they've got the material so as long as they don't "original" end this thing, a season is very likely imo. What I liked most about this anime is that it didn't bullshit around. If this were Naruto they would have put in so much filler that these 12 episodes would have been like 40, but instead each episode was jam packed, no real down time.
Sep 17, 2012 10:54 AM

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VierEuris said:
just my conclusion on episode 12

-He manage to fake his death through the help of Hanzou and Zenki (considering Zenki has an ability to transform and Hanzou is a ninja with lot of tricks on his sleeves).

-Hanzou take Yoshiharu on Mikawa and the only characters known this is Zenki together with his master Hanbei and Motoyasu the future Ieyasu.

-during his time of death the Asakura and Asai focusing too much on the Oda and on that time he secretly use that very moment too convice the Takeda, Uesugi, Hojo or some clans on east to aid Nobuna.

-As for Juubei she is probably alive but take some few scratches and will be on Yoshiharu's side upon saving Nobuna with some clan he succesfully convince to help.

and that's all it's just a conclusion I've made on the ending(if ever that will be the last one). But who knows maybe on episode 12 the story won't end and their will be a 2nd season after all the only clans that have shown is the east side.

You heard it here first. Can't wait for the final episode and a season 2. This is one of the best of its kind I've seen in years.
Sep 17, 2012 11:13 AM

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Hmph. I'm not believing even one second that Sagara is dead. This is the kind of anime where the characters rarely die. I guess that Hanzou and Zeki have done something to fake his death.

And oh surprise. The bullet was in the phone. It was a great episode, but the twists of this anime aren't credible...
Sep 17, 2012 11:45 AM

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Avenir said:

And oh surprise. The bullet was in the phone. It was a great episode, but the twists of this anime aren't credible...


The bullet wasn't in the phone, it went through it only to be redirected from the heart
Sep 17, 2012 3:22 PM

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luigi-dude said:
I checked last week and the pre-orders were +3,500. Which is a lot better than expected, and they've got the material so as long as they don't "original" end this thing, a season is very likely imo. What I liked most about this anime is that it didn't bullshit around. If this were Naruto they would have put in so much filler that these 12 episodes would have been like 40, but instead each episode was jam packed, no real down time.



Thanks dude, ive been wanting to know haha.
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Sep 17, 2012 3:45 PM

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Obviously, the MC would come back. So it's either Hanzou is a really nice guy, or Sagara got sent back to his timeplane and found a way to get back.

Because of what happened in this episode, I feel like chances for 2nd season is now decreased :(

Last episode next week, looking forward to it :D
Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM

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I could see from a mile away that "Saru" is alive after that stunt and same with Juubei. Still felt suspenseful nonetheless. Really looking forward to the last episode. Love to see season 2.
Sep 17, 2012 5:03 PM

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Nice. I love how they made Yoshiharu's arm splash like that.
But I know there is something here.
He is alive. This is a ploy of Zenki and Hanzou and Yoshiharu himself.

Can't wait to see how this ends.
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Sep 17, 2012 6:46 PM

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now I have to wait an entire week to find out whether he is alive or not!!!
Sep 17, 2012 7:01 PM
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No Sagara isn't dead he planned his death with Zenki. Zenki Transformed into Sagara that's why they said "they couldn't find a trace of his body even if it was exploded into pieces as for Juubei she was probably saved by Sagara because when the masked guy shot at her he shot the ground and she went flying off the cliff. It was part of Hanzou's and Zenki's plan. Thats why they said if he wanted to die One of them should kill him meaning Zenki was going to transform into Sagara and fake his death.
Sep 17, 2012 7:10 PM

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No Sagara isn't dead he planned his death with Zenki. Zenki Transformed into Sagara that's why they said "they couldn't find a trace of his body even if it was exploded into pieces as for Juubei she was probably saved by Sagara because when the masked guy shot at her he shot the ground and she went flying off the cliff. It was part of Hanzou's and Zenki's plan. Thats why they said if he wanted to die One of them should kill him meaning Zenki was going to transform into Sagara and fake his death.


Yup, that transformation is probable :D
Sep 17, 2012 7:50 PM

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Yoshiharu is most certainly alive, I suspect his death was faked by Hanzou and Zenki. Very good suspense on the director's part though for not revealing his status outright.

Sep 17, 2012 8:54 PM

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AznRida said:
No Sagara isn't dead he planned his death with Zenki. Zenki Transformed into Sagara that's why they said "they couldn't find a trace of his body even if it was exploded into pieces as for Juubei she was probably saved by Sagara because when the masked guy shot at her he shot the ground and she went flying off the cliff. It was part of Hanzou's and Zenki's plan. Thats why they said if he wanted to die One of them should kill him meaning Zenki was going to transform into Sagara and fake his death.


Yup, that transformation is probable :D


Furthermore I think that a corpse was really blown to pieces for added realism, "something" fell near Mitsuhide. ; )
Sep 17, 2012 9:27 PM

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in my opinion it could be easy to just use a corpse from the war, considering how many were killed.
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Sep 17, 2012 10:01 PM
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IMO i think Sagara's still alive. And hanzou set it up. This is just my opinion.
Sep 17, 2012 10:35 PM

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In all honesty I can't seem to believe that Sagara is actually dead and one major reason is that he is one of the main characters. We also have to remember that only Sagara and Hanzou confronted Yoshitatsu Saitou before Sagara's apparent death. Zenki who was with Hanzou when they were talking about Sagara dying at their hands was not present and we know that Zenki can change his appearance and create illusions.

I don't think it's unlikely to believe that Zenki and Hanzou came up with this as a way to help Sagara escape with his life. Hanzou himself stated that surviving is what Sagara needed to do but that dying by the hands of a comrade would save him the humiliation. I just can't bring myself to believe that Hanzou actually killed Sagara.
Sep 17, 2012 11:44 PM

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Really hate it when a show over-escalates

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Sep 18, 2012 12:08 AM

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This episode. OMG. THIS EPISODE!! <3
So many feelings and manly tears were shed from my eyes.
At first, I was waiting for Sagara and Juubei to come back at the end of the episode all heroic and whatnot. Until I end up watching the preview for next ep and they're not in it... If they don't bring them back and confirmed that they are in fact killed, I think that would in fact be for the better as far as non-generic plotlines go. Either way, if they end this series properly, Oda Nobuna MAY in fact become one of my top 5 anime of all time! The finale can't get here soon enough!!
Sep 18, 2012 1:17 AM

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Well, I don't think Sagara is dead and even that another girl.
Sep 18, 2012 3:37 AM

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Doubt that sagara and akechi are dead.
Sep 18, 2012 3:50 AM

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Controversial much? I felt super sad when Nene and the others started to cry. Tearjerker episode. Can't wait for the finale!
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Sep 18, 2012 4:55 AM

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Now I get the grand finale. Yoshiharu wakes up and finds Nobuna's reincarnation somehow.

But yeah, quite a tearjerker episode. Music was awesomely placed this episode if only to darken even more the atmosphere.
Sep 18, 2012 5:04 AM

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This series deserve more praise, what an unexpected episode let be wether saru is still alive!
Sep 18, 2012 5:23 AM

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you can speculate about sagara's death cause hes the main prot, but you saw that girl fell down a cliff, if they let her live it would be kinda meh.
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Sep 18, 2012 6:20 AM

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Blackbird said:
Pff I end up clicking at your spoiler box

Asteriael said:
This is from Vol 4.



Hope for season 2 too. Would love to see the battle of Anegawa and more.


Overall, I cried on this episode. What a great anime i have watched this year other than SAO and few animes.
Sep 18, 2012 8:17 AM

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It was so saddening when Yoshiharu is gone . I was hoping he would come back but with one last episode , he just might . Still I dont see how Nobuna is going to be able to do anything now unless Yoshiharu does come back . Also Mitsuhide ... if they are both not dead they better have a good explanation as to why they didnt come back sooner lol.

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Sep 18, 2012 8:18 AM

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While a SAO diehard I just have to appreciate good anime. Second best show this fall season, well likely. I was disappointed by Campione
Sep 18, 2012 11:48 AM

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Campione was simply rushed, from what i heard the novels are way better; that aside you should check out Kokoro Connect, but i gotta agree Oda surprised me, way better than i thought it would be.
Sep 18, 2012 12:03 PM

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Hanzou is bound to have used some form of substitution technique to mask Yoshiharu's death. It seems logical anyway.

If that is the case, I'm looking forward to him getting Nobuna back to normal by the end.

A season two of this has to be on the cards, it's definitely the best anime of the season by quite a long shot, at least in my eyes anyway.
Sep 18, 2012 3:28 PM

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Hanzou is bound to have used some form of substitution technique to mask Yoshiharu's death. It seems logical anyway.

If that is the case, I'm looking forward to him getting Nobuna back to normal by the end.

A season two of this has to be on the cards, it's definitely the best anime of the season by quite a long shot, at least in my eyes anyway.


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Sep 18, 2012 3:57 PM

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I think they are not dead(both Saru and that other girl), They might've survived.
I don't have proof though, but my hunch is telling me that this anime is one of the anime where you thought they die but instead they will make a big comeback at the end.

I haven't watched a good anime like this since ages. All I've seen around are more like boob-related/over-fanserviced anime.

I'm glad I watched this.

Sep 18, 2012 7:54 PM

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This is still the prettiest anime of the season/year. PRETTIEST GIRL IN JAPAN!
Sep 18, 2012 8:06 PM

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... I don't believe he died...
Sep 18, 2012 8:39 PM

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believe in him awaki ;O
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Sep 18, 2012 8:42 PM

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WELL he IS the main character after all, and that was a VERY anticlimatic death.
5 bucks says hes gonna show up in the next episode.
Sep 18, 2012 9:05 PM

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No fuks were given this whole episode and i like that.
Sep 19, 2012 9:01 AM

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Ah the phone did save Nobuna thank god

Now as for Yoshiharu, I doubt he died since I think Hanzo,Zenki and Yoshiharu planned his death so maybe it was fake so that all his men could escape but who knows we'll see
Sep 19, 2012 10:28 AM

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Here I am hoping for him to do an epic coming back from the dead scene next episode. This has been a really great anime but if he is actually dead then I'm gonna have to lower my score a little, plus I want a season 2 so please keep him alive!
Sep 19, 2012 10:58 AM

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PRETTIEST GIRL IN JAPAN!


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Sep 19, 2012 12:38 PM

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christyu said:
Yes indeed Yoshiharu is dead; you could see his his hand falling on a ground with splash. From the preview, it says that episode 12 will be the last episode.
I guess this will help Nobuna to stop acting like a kid and be mature to be capable of uniting Japan.

Although I want Yoshiharu to be alive, I don't want him to come back to life since something like that doesn't seem right in this type of anime


I'm betting neither of them are dead. and monkey probably lost an arm. I think Hanzou actually saved him and pulled him out of the way at the last second, That's why they couldn't find his body.
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Sep 19, 2012 6:59 PM

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Nyashuki said:
Blackbird said:
Pff I end up clicking at your spoiler box

Asteriael said:
This is from Vol 4.



Hope for season 2 too. Would love to see the battle of Anegawa and more.


Overall, I cried on this episode. What a great anime i have watched this year other than SAO and few animes.




I also hope for another season and I conclude that this is one of the best anime this season and my top 2 anime this season(SAO is top 1 ofc).

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