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| THIS IS AN MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- New Chapter is out! I can't believe ren is really dead. I mean, we all knew it was coming, but just having it confirmed is so sad. I really don't look forward to seeing how Nana will react to this. I'm assuming thats what brings her over the edge and makes her go to london/etc. Does anyone else feel like this manga is slowly, but surely, coming to an end? |
| nooooooo, he can't be dead! ;_____; I won't accept this. |
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| Why?!!!!? I didn't think Ren would actually be killed off, but I thought wrong. T ^ T |
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| I can't believe it either. I agree. Next chapter will definitely be heart wrenching. I got goosebumps when I think about how Nobu heard someone playing guitar. It could have been Ren's spirit saying goodbye or something. My heart gets caught in my throat once I see all the characters teary-eyed. (except yasu of course) but I think its much more painful for him. And again he must become the pillar of strength for Nana and the rest. Sigh. But it makes sense. Now I know why the little boy was named after Ren. |
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| T_T Ren...one of my favorite characters is gone and now my other favorite character will have a massive breakdown ;_; |
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| I was expecting this from the beginning, but ... oow, i cried a lot ;_;' rackoy said: I got goosebumps when I think about how Nobu heard someone playing guitar. It could have been Ren's spirit saying goodbye or something. yeah, i think Nobu heard Ren's guitar ... omg, that's so sad! :/ |
| omg this chapter was so sad......especially the moment everything was confirmed when takumi said "ren's dead" and everyone was crying.......*sniff*sniff* T__T |
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| I can't believe this is actually hapenning... REN! ;____;' Definitely the saddest chapter in NANA yet. Oh god I don't wanna know what's gonna happen to Nana when Yasu breaks the news to her... ;____; Takumi holding Hachi tightly was very touching though. |
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| noooooooooooooooooo! it’s so sad… even if we saw this coming… still! I can’t believe it’s true. No! Possible spoiler? But we see how this affects later events like the baby name and Nana’s breakdown/leave… There’s no way this will end happily now… |
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| If NANA ends up getting a second season after the manga is done, I don't know if I even want to see it anymore - I know I'll just end up bawling my eyes out ;_; |
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| DX re-reading your thoughts makes me want to cry... uwa... D= at least he didn't die of an overdose (i hope it wasn't what caused it) but.... gah... i'm sad to think that he's gone... here i was all "OMG! NEW NANA!" and my heart is currently gone off crying... ren.... ;_____________________; |
| Oh God, Nobu's guitar-hearing. I can't quite believe it. |
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| And next chapter will be even more heartwrenching?! And I already cried reading this one. ): It was so sad... |
| T-T omg...i have to be honest...i cried while i read the chapter... why Ren!? (i blame Reira and the reporters...&$^%$% Reira!) God Nana is gonna break apart after this...she is already an emotional wreck... i can't imagine the jump from this to her running away from everybody and going to London. heartbreak heartbreak heartbreak T-T Hachi's life isn't going well either! Her husband is a friggin cheat and can't get over stupid !^$%*& Reira...She already had to go through so much crap (and, yes, she created many of her problems...but hey, i think she grew as a character)...now her best friend's husband (who she was also getting really close to) dies...ooohhhh Hachi---nothing good happens to you. |
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| I knew he was going to die, but I had no idea it would be this soon after we all figured it out. And I can't believe it's going to end soon, but I definitely think it is! I wonder what will happen now, will the manga continue going back and forth between present and future or will we just jump to the future soon? |
| Whoa she really did it. She really killed the main character. I guess I knew he was dead ever since Nobu heard guitar... but I was still hoping that he'll be in coma or something. I suppose Nana will run away after she hears the news, and then probably time skip to present. Though, I still don't get where second kid birth and whatever happened between Takumi and Hachi that she considered leaving him are supposed to fit. Those reporters are really freaking morons. OMG, someone's maybe gonna blame us... lets run away and let a person die. If they called for help earlier Ren may have stayed alive. And bitch Reira, I hope she finds out in the news or something, and I hope Hachi will kill her in a catfight. Or at least just slap her or something. She deserves it, but guys certainly won't do it, and Nana will be too heartbroken to think about the bitch. So, that leaves Hachi, and hopefully kitchen knife. |
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| Reira should have died instead of Ren. >__< |
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| OMG! I can't believe she actually killed him off..I predicted it awhile back..even before the time skip but still whhyyy I was hoping I was wrong. T__T;; I wonder why he mistook Nana for a cat? symbolism? Also, those reporters are complete idiots. You can get charged for not reporting an accident also. How cruel. R.I.P. REN. <3 |
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| I was reading this at my job and I couldn't cry because everyone would have been like WTF? what's wrong ?xD But I read it again and i'm crying now Wahh... everyone here was saying: Ren's going to die But I didn't believed it... I can't believe it. I don't want to see how Nana reacts to this, it's gonna hurt so much. |
sanjica said: Whoa she really did it. She really killed the main character. I guess I knew he was dead ever since Nobu heard guitar... but I was still hoping that he'll be in coma or something. I suppose Nana will run away after she hears the news, and then probably time skip to present. Though, I still don't get where second kid birth and whatever happened between Takumi and Hachi that she considered leaving him are supposed to fit. Those reporters are really freaking morons. OMG, someone's maybe gonna blame us... lets run away and let a person die. If they called for help earlier Ren may have stayed alive. And bitch Reira, I hope she finds out in the news or something, and I hope Hachi will kill her in a catfight. Or at least just slap her or something. She deserves it, but guys certainly won't do it, and Nana will be too heartbroken to think about the bitch. So, that leaves Hachi, and hopefully kitchen knife. I agree! I was hoping the whole time that maybe he's in critical condition and he's not dead but then Takumi said it and I'm like NOOO*cry* Gah he's my fave!How can he die!!! Stupid Reira, die bi*** die! Though blah just my anger it was heartbreaking to see everyone cry: ( So depressing:'( |
| Ren died. TT~TT It was necessary for the story to progress but.. it's just sad. Just thinking about how Nana reacts to this is depressing. *heavy sigh* I don't think that this manga is gonna end anytime soon. *crosses fingers* I just hope that there comes a good event after this, it's getting really depressing here. @_@ |
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| I didn't want to believe it. I guess I was hoping that the car crash didn't necessarily mean that he was dead; I didn't truly believe it until Takumi started yelling at Yasu. katsup said: Does anyone else feel like this manga is slowly, but surely, coming to an end? Yes...I have been feeling this way for the past couple of chapters, but I think this chapter is a good sign that it is about to end. Yazawa is wrapping everything up; now we know why Reira was reminiscing by the bench in London, why Takumi's second child was named Ren, and now we have a good reason for why Nana disappears. The only thing left is to fill in the specifics. And somehow, she needs to find a way to tell us who Ren's (Takumi's child) mother is, which will probably involve another flash into the future. Although I'm thinking that we'll also need to find out if they find Nana in the future, too. noirre said: katsup said: Does anyone else feel like this manga is slowly, but surely, coming to an end? I don't believe it will end enytime soon. There are too many unsolved things; there are problems even in the future. What will happen whn Nana is finally found? What about Hachi's and Takumis marriage (God if it isn't resolved somehow someone will die)? These are all problems that we've just gotten a glimpse of, and they are still looming over the manga. I think the manga is going to end with her wrapping up what's happening in the future (if you think about it, the main storyline is still back in 2001 or 2002, while the "future" storyline is actually present-day, so it would make sense for Yazawa to end the story in the future). My prediction is that the story is going to flash-forward into the future; they are going to find Nana in London, Hachi will finally bring what is left of her relationship with Takumi to a close (since he is there in London, too), she might even possibly end up with Nobu (since WAY back when, the first time it gave us a glimpse of the future, you could see that they still had feelings for each other), and I think the story will end on a relatively happy note. But this is just my guess (or possibly what I want to happen XD ). |
Kizuna said: Reira should have died instead of Ren. >__< -Agrees- Ren :( |
| I just can't believe what happened on the last translated chapter of Nana, but I can not have peace till I find the Japanese manga series somewhere on the web. Because in Japan the 19th volume is already published, but we are reading the thirteenth. This chapter with Ren's death that we've been reading this month, in Japan was published minimum three years ago. If someone can find Japanese Nana, please tell us. I was watching the Japanese official Nana site and there were some scenes with Ren in the future volumes. That gave me hope. But still the sadness is not leaving me. ;__; I am listening Starless night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDyuk23HQdg and Kuroi namida http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86q9nvK-2-s |
Bi said: Because in Japan the 19th volume is already published, but we are reading the thirteenth. Actually, this is 20th volume, and people in Japan have read it only few days before us, since raw + translation didn't take long at all this time. |
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| What a wonderful birthday present. Hey, your boyfriend's dead. He died in a car wreck going to go get Reira to bring her back. Now everyone is gonna start falling apart. Undoubtedly people will start blaming themselves. Bad decisions will be made that will hurt others and surely themselves in the end. It was really sad and I even shed a few tears. However, I can't help but feel excited for whats to come next. For a while now I've felt that the story was moving a little slow and all the dramatic happenings were somewhat lack luster. For me anyways. Maybe it was all the plot holes and questions that went unanswered for too long. Ren's death is really gonna kick everything into gear again. I can feel it. Things are beginning to fall into place. Even though I know this is a tragedy that will effect some characters significantly more than others, most obviously Nana. I can't stop thinking about how this is going to effect Hachi and Takumi. Is that terrible? |
sanjica said: Actually, this is 20th volume, and people in Japan have read it only few days before us, since raw + translation didn't take long at all this time. I don't now where have you got your informations but, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_(manga)#Manga you can see the list of the original and the volumes that are published in English with dates and averything. Even you can see the schedule. The next volume in english is going out on 4-th of November. Also on the official web site http://www.s-nana.com/ click on Nana comics and you can check all the published volumes in Japan, one by one, and see where our story is right now. Seems to me that we are little late. |
girliegirl625 said: Ren is takumi child. while this whole accident happen hachi will give birth to Sa-chan and sleep with takumi and have Ren before they actually break up. Yes, little Ren is Takumi and Hachi's child, and Satcuki's brother. I rather think twin brother. Hachi didn't wanted to know the sex of the baby, so the doctor didn't tell her that she will have twins. |
Bi said: girliegirl625 said: Ren is takumi child. while this whole accident happen hachi will give birth to Sa-chan and sleep with takumi and have Ren before they actually break up. Yes, little Ren is Takumi and Hachi's child, and Satcuki's brother. I rather think twin brother. Hachi didn't wanted to know the sex of the baby, so the doctor didn't tell her that she will have twins. I've been thinking the same thing. Twins, they seem to be of the same age. Because she would have to get pregnant almost immediately after her birth to have the second child so near in age. I just don't see that happening at all. Not with the way their relationship is heading. |
girliegirl625 said: WHY IS EVERYONE BLAMING REIRA???????????? Because Ren was headed to her mother's house to take her back. She ran away for his sake, you remember? If he wasn't going for Reira he would be in Osaka with Nana and there wouldn't be paparazzi following him and waiting for his second meeting with Reira to take picture and make a story. Also, the heavy snow was only in their home town, where is more colder through the whole year, but in Osaka was only raining. If Reira hadn't escaped, nothing of this would have happened. |
mommyslttlmnstr said: Bi said: girliegirl625 said: Ren is takumi child. while this whole accident happen hachi will give birth to Sa-chan and sleep with takumi and have Ren before they actually break up. Yes, little Ren is Takumi and Hachi's child, and Satcuki's brother. I rather think twin brother. Hachi didn't wanted to know the sex of the baby, so the doctor didn't tell her that she will have twins. I've been thinking the same thing. Twins, they seem to be of the same age. Because she would have to get pregnant almost immediately after her birth to have the second child so near in age. I just don't see that happening at all. Not with the way their relationship is heading. You guys are forgetting that Takumi slept with Reira while Hachi was still pregnant. Ren could very well be Reira's son, which would explain why he was in England with Takumi and Reira. *edit* and it would also explain why he looks like Shin a little bit :> but that's getting into some weird theories. |
Tomoe said: And also I am one of the few supporters of Hachi - Takumi couple despite he is being a cheater he treats Hachi differently and treasures her... Can you really treasure someone when you're sleeping with that many people? D: I prefer Nana and Nobuo, they seem more natural. |
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