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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier Episode 21 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
37 41.57%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
31 34.83%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
15 16.85%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
3 3.37%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
3 3.37%
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08-28-08, 11:08 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This one was less emotional but more ABOUT GETTING REALLY PISSED. I AM VERY ANGRY AFTER SEEING THIS! I hate the fact they used the new bomb to kill all of island #3! HOW COULD THEY LET IT TO THIS!

GOOD BYE RANKA LEE---->TRAITOR! No offense but since Vajra killed Michael and Ranka Lee protected a Vajra (yes even that Vajra was a friend of hers) instead of letting Alto kill it then she is a TRAITOR! Along with her Brother, who of course is restrained by Grace (Grace you ***** ass of a sh** planned everything down with possible minimal interference from outside "Die Grace Die").

I CAN BE HAPPY IT WILL BE ALTO AND SHERYL IN THE END ^_^ . I hope cause I am sorry GUYS but Ranka looks way TOO LOLI for Alto. Sheryl is the maturity he needs.

So here is what I liked:

-Klan going berserk and killed many Vajra! (MICHAEL MANY MORE VAJRAS WILL BE KILLED FOR YOU! YOU JUST WATCH FROM UP THERE!)

-The new weapon looks cool if they can make it into a reaction missile type!

-The battles, especially when Battle Frontier kills a Vajra ship about to use fold cannon!

HATED:

-Leon being at the funeral of mister Glass!? O_O After he kills him! A insult to his CASKET!

-Grace not being dead!

-Lucas being selfish (sorry but I would refuse to use this weapon even if I had all this!)

-Obviously Ranka becoming a traitor!

-Catherine and Oswald being refugees. That sucks!

That's about it for now so see when subs are out!

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08-28-08, 1:57 PM

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i knew ranka was going to leave.....and finally we can have some alto x sheryl.^_^


My english sucks....i know....
 
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08-28-08, 2:05 PM

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gogoulo said:
i knew ranka was going to leave.....and finally we can have some alto x sheryl.^_^

Glad to see you aboard the Sheryl x Alto time frame. Question is how is he going to save her from the disease she has? Seems to be difficult since there is no cure yet. Only thing to prevent it from active kind of like AIDS. I wonder.
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08-29-08, 9:16 PM

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angel999 said:

GOOD BYE RANKA LEE---->TRAITOR! No offense but since Vajra killed Michael and Ranka Lee protected a Vajra (yes even that Vajra was a friend of hers) instead of letting Alto kill it then she is a TRAITOR! Along with her Brother, who of course is restrained by Grace (Grace you ***** ass of a sh** planned everything down with possible minimal interference from outside "Die Grace Die").


i love you.


and ranka, go and never come back
die, preferably, with grace and leon and ur vajra pal
(i can't bear to kill Brera off cuz he's to good looking to die)

(is michel really dead? cuz they didnt have a funeral for him like that other valkyrie guy in the begininning, and how come everyone, exept Klan, acted like nothing happend? )

alto x sheryl forever. god bless your marriage and amen.


boy this series got me worked up
 
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08-29-08, 9:41 PM

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pendragon said:
angel999 said:

GOOD BYE RANKA LEE---->TRAITOR! No offense but since Vajra killed Michael and Ranka Lee protected a Vajra (yes even that Vajra was a friend of hers) instead of letting Alto kill it then she is a TRAITOR! Along with her Brother, who of course is restrained by Grace (Grace you ***** ass of a sh** planned everything down with possible minimal interference from outside "Die Grace Die").


i love you.




and ranka, go and never come back
die, preferably, with grace and leon and ur vajra pal
(i can't bear to kill Brera off cuz he's to good looking to die)

(is michel really dead? cuz they didnt have a funeral for him like that other valkyrie guy in the begininning, and how come everyone, exept Klan, acted like nothing happend? )

alto x sheryl forever. god bless your marriage and amen.


boy this series got me worked up


If you want to see for yourself try to slow motion or carefully looking when he get mortally wounded in #20...maybe he might have not survived.

I stay true to what Michael and his sister were fighting for: To protect lives...this being said Vajra=killing people so my belief would be to kill off Vajras completely for they cannot never be trusted anyways.
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08-30-08, 7:23 AM

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Always hated Brera but i liked Ranka up till now...
die in space, bitch.
 
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08-30-08, 8:42 AM

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God, I hope Ranka dies in a terrible way.
 
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08-30-08, 8:57 AM

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Bye, bye Ranka. Wish you all the best when having tentacle sex with Vajra. We won't be missing you :P Cooldown episode after Michael's death. Four more eps...


"There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled,
which leads to an unknown, secret place."
 
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08-30-08, 9:09 AM

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Some extra comments after seeing the sub version.

-Based on the speech of the funeral...Leon definitely has NO RIGHT to say any of it AT ALL! I hope someone gets rid of him and Where The Hell is Richard Biller (that Zeltran guy with the ring)???

-So basically Ranka's excuse is "It's not this one that killed Michael" COME ON!!!! Just because this one did not do it does not mean it is not stained and innocent. Just like all of US. Think about it even though we all come from different countries we all had people of the past of those countries kill other people. Therefore we are stained with their kills that they committed for they were part of the same country as us.

-When you have another planet declare war on another due to RACE you are calling war and SO FAR DIPLOMACY WITH THESE VAJRA IS IMPOSSIBLE! Hell they only telepathy communication and can't talk.

-Is Sheryl going to sing again in #22??? Just hope no ones uses or grace does not do something to her. Nice title for next episode....Northern Cross!
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08-30-08, 9:38 AM

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Go die Ranka, Vajra's bitch.
Hopefully we'll see more Sheryl now.
 
08-30-08, 11:26 AM

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While I wish Ranka would never appear in this show again, I am pretty sure Alto is pissed, and will go to space to find her. So while Sheryl will join him in his quest, there wont be any Alto X Sheryl. I could be wrong about this though, and I honestly hope I am, but it seems like the direction the show could be going.


Oh, and Micheal is a pretty badass for hiding a picture of Klan in his helmet.
 
08-30-08, 11:58 AM

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So much Ranka hate in this thread =P

I really hated the fact that she left, but it was rather predictable, since she didn't want any more killing, not to mention she is somehow related to the Vajra.
Now Alto is probably going to get her back (at least I hope so. RankaXAlto ftw! =P).

 
08-30-08, 12:13 PM

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Kayro said:
So much Ranka hate in this thread =P

I really hated the fact that she left, but it was rather predictable, since she didn't want any more killing, not to mention she is somehow related to the Vajra.
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/Agreed

Dont think this is enough for me to hate ranka, tho i do dislike brera quite a bit now. I just think ranka is confused/naive. Right now too soon for me to say who alto will end up with if he does end up with one....Just....im pretty shure Sheryl is gonna die no matter what tho, i just cant see a good ending with her staying alive dunno why...
 
08-30-08, 12:55 PM

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Sephor said:
Kayro said:
So much Ranka hate in this thread =P

I really hated the fact that she left, but it was rather predictable, since she didn't want any more killing, not to mention she is somehow related to the Vajra.
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/Agreed

Dont think this is enough for me to hate ranka, tho i do dislike brera quite a bit now. I just think ranka is confused/naive. Right now too soon for me to say who alto will end up with if he does end up with one....Just....im pretty shure Sheryl is gonna die no matter what tho, i just cant see a good ending with her staying alive dunno why...


The contrary can be true also---> While saving Ranka a cure from Vajra happens to cure Sheryl but in the process Ranka gets killed. Alto and Sheryl live happily after. It's a random though out setup but it would be nice to see.

That would be good but you know what we both agreed on one thing: LEON AND GRACE MUST DIE! BRERA AND RANKA WOULD BE +++ likely maybe Brera dies trying to save Ranka.

Look whether hate or not Ranka does not matter, what matters is SHE CANNOT BE TRUSTED ANYMORE. Thus hating her is natural since she is not trusted. Especially if people saw her with that thing.
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08-30-08, 12:58 PM

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Ranka got annoying with her "do not want to hurt anything else" attitude. Brera got annoying too with his "I am now Ranka's bitch" attitude.

Even if you're against using the fold bomb, how will you save Frontier? Just pew pew everything like usual? Even if it was sacrificing Island 3, it was for the well being of Frontier as a whole.

I wouldn't neccessarily call Ranka a traitor either. Even though she did protect a Vajra, she doesn't want either side to get killed. My bet is she's really part Vajra herself. Brera... he's just a little bitch for Ranka.
 
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I have to say, Tomokazu Sugita's voice really embodies what Leon's all about. He has this tone that says he's better and always one step ahead of you, and it really irritates you to the point that you want to smash the guy's face. plus Leon has that god awful haircut that giving him 10 more punches seems justified. xD

there's enough hatred and hostility aimed towards Ranka that I feel anymore would be redundant.
 
08-30-08, 2:45 PM

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If everyone else will become hardcore Ranka haters

Then I shall be the sole Ranka lover.
Her choice was very Eureka Seven like... and I really hated it when Alto said "All vajra are evil!!!"

I pose this question then to Alto, have you met every single vajra? how do you know that every vajra wants to kill humans.

Ranka-san 4ever!!! *sniff*

As for Sheryl... she's still a stuck up bitch that needs to have a microphone shoved down her throat. Yes, that'd make me VERY happy.

*prepares for flames*
 
08-30-08, 3:18 PM

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Well okay, the episode raised multiple thoughts

happy --- lots of battles, angry Klan
wierd --- what's Luca acting all tough?
unhappy --- Leon, Grace (not that much of her in the episode, thank god)
mixed --- Ranka, well i guess she didn't know any other way to move on, i'm sure we'll find out more details on her past and on her being the 'little queen', Brera well he ain't Ranka's bitch, all he does is in accordance to Grace's orders.

Anyways about the coupling theories i fear it's gonna end up with Alto wanting to find Ranka because he likes/loves her, who knows it'll all become clear soon.
About Sheryl, well i hope she gets some more air time since there ain't much happening between her end Alto, compared to what's happening between Alto and Ranka.

another great episode, can't wait for the next


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08-30-08, 3:30 PM

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If everyone else will become hardcore Ranka haters

Then I shall be the sole Ranka lover.
Her choice was very Eureka Seven like... and I really hated it when Alto said "All vajra are evil!!!"

I pose this question then to Alto, have you met every single vajra? how do you know that every vajra wants to kill humans.

Ranka-san 4ever!!! *sniff*

As for Sheryl... she's still a stuck up bitch that needs to have a microphone shoved down her throat. Yes, that'd make me VERY happy.

*prepares for flames*


All I got to say to this is....are you sure you can even endure the rock barrage she would get from the crowd. Buddy NO ONE SUPPORTS someone who is friends with Vajra and before you convince anyone in this world of Macross Frontier...you would get shot along with Ranka and her Vajra......

.......Still want to join with Ranka???? It's like supporting Nazis or Neo-Nazis now......The Neo-Nazis never killed any Jews....of course not they are new people who got born but does not make them spic span clean and people will not forget about the Nazis, so I doubt people will accept any of the BS Vajra being friendly.

There this is the first flame!
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08-30-08, 3:34 PM

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Stjeppe said:
Well okay, the episode raised multiple thoughts

happy --- lots of battles, angry Klan
wierd --- what's Luca acting all tough?
unhappy --- Leon, Grace (not that much of her in the episode, thank god)
mixed --- Ranka, well i guess she didn't know any other way to move on, i'm sure we'll find out more details on her past and on her being the 'little queen', Brera well he ain't Ranka's bitch, all he does is in accordance to Grace's orders.

Anyways about the coupling theories i fear it's gonna end up with Alto wanting to find Ranka because he likes/loves her, who knows it'll all become clear soon.
About Sheryl, well i hope she gets some more air time since there ain't much happening between her end Alto, compared to what's happening between Alto and Ranka.

another great episode, can't wait for the next


Nah, you got all wrong! I think Ranka will get consumed by the Vajras....did you not see the painful reaction from her stomach area when island #3 was killed with all the Vajras???

I tell ya...a Vajra may burst a la Alien style, Hell maybe Ranka will transform into Vajra since she might have a mutative virus within her. If Grace is planning to fuse all the humans with Vajras for a ultimate creation.....YOU ARE DEAD WRONG GRACE! No one will allow that!

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