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Oct 1, 2011 2:07 PM

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Comedy etc. of Nichijou are more a matter of taste but anyone denying the superb animation quality the show had doesn't know what he is talking about. Animation is just phenomenal in Nichijou in general
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the other 2 makes sense, but Nichijou was very entertaining
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I'm surprised Nichijou didn't succeed in sales, I've heard many good things about it, even though I haven't watched it myself...
And yeah, I don't think it should be in the same boat as the other two shows...
Oct 1, 2011 2:36 PM

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GaZsTiC said:
The people on the first page are acting like idiots.

The reason Nichijou didn't sell well is because it was the most expensive television anime of the year, other than Gosick.

It costs something like 1000 dollars for all 26 episodes, if my memory serves well.


Jesus christ, the price of anime in Japan is ridiculous. @_@

Also, I really don't understand what people liked so much about Nichijou. The only characters I really cared about or laughed at were the professor, Nano and Sakamoto. I didn't realise "LOLrandom" counted as high comedy now.
And yeah, as a fan of KyoAni and their moeblobshityf****t anime, I was very disappointed.
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Oct 1, 2011 2:37 PM
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Oh Japan...

Comedy aside, the show still has great animation and music. Sad news.

And whoever thought Nichijou wasn't moe, lolwut
harmannOct 1, 2011 2:40 PM
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I hate moeblob with passions.

I watched this show till episode 14, I still don't know why I could persist through all of those. Yes, this is not moeblob anime. I hate this show with passions.

I think it deserves the sales figures.
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harmann said:
And whoever thought Nichijou wasn't moe, lolwut


THIS. Seriously.
Just look at the professor and tell me what is not moe about that. :| not to mention that 90% of the cast was female and the art style was pretty cute.
Oct 1, 2011 2:44 PM

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Comedy etc. of Nichijou are more a matter of taste but anyone denying the superb animation quality the show had doesn't know what he is talking about. Animation is just phenomenal in Nichijou in general

Overall, is the art quality on the same level as Mawaru Penguindrum, Tatami Galaxy, Studio Ghibli movies in general, previous KyoAni works (e.g. Angel Beats), End of Evangelion, and Revolutionary Girl Utena: Adolescence Apocalypse?
Art =/= animation
Good but not phenominal or superb
The threat is stronger than the execution.
Oct 1, 2011 2:51 PM

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Make shitty shows, overprice the hell out of them, then expect high sales. LOLJAPAN.
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Smochi said:
harmann said:
And whoever thought Nichijou wasn't moe, lolwut


THIS. Seriously.
Just look at the professor and tell me what is not moe about that. :| not to mention that 90% of the cast was female and the art style was pretty cute.


"Japanese slang term (ironically, first employed by otaku) used to refer to the fetish for or sexual attraction to anime characters, usually a fictional perfect young girl."

Nobody feels any kind of attraction to the girls in Nichijou, because every single character has the exact same body, and just different clothes and facial features. There are no figurines being sold, no body pillows, and no doujins being made. Nobody cares about these girls because its not a moeblob show, unlike every other recent KyoAni show.

Theres no Mio, Haruhi, Konata, Kyou etc that the otaku love in this show. Thus, it doesn't sell.

Oct 1, 2011 2:55 PM

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lazlain said:
Xardie said:
Comedy etc. of Nichijou are more a matter of taste but anyone denying the superb animation quality the show had doesn't know what he is talking about. Animation is just phenomenal in Nichijou in general

Overall, is the art quality on the same level as Mawaru Penguindrum, Tatami Galaxy, Studio Ghibli movies in general, previous KyoAni works (e.g. Angel Beats), End of Evangelion, and Revolutionary Girl Utena: Adolescence Apocalypse?
Art =/= animation
Good but not phenominal or superb


How could you even compare Mawaru Penguindrum, with its quality dropping faster than meteorite for each episode, with Ghibli movie? o_O

There is no denying that Nichijou has very very high production value (try to observe each frame), but art alone does not make a good anime.
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naoan said:
How could you even compare Mawaru Penguindrum, with its quality dropping faster than meteorite for each episode, with Ghibli movie? o_O

There is no denying that Nichijou has very very high production value (try to observe each frame), but art alone does not make a good anime.

exactly why Nichijou is extremely expensive and failed to break even.
Btw, I'm only talking about art & animation quality but Mawaru Penguindrum still wins in this department.

Overall, Mawaru Penguindrum is doing well so far in all aspects and is still unpredictable.
It is in competition with Kaiji as the anime of the year.
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The threat is stronger than the execution.
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RyanSaotome said:

"Japanese slang term (ironically, first employed by otaku) used to refer to the fetish for or sexual attraction to anime characters, usually a fictional perfect young girl."

This is somewhat inaccurate. The word has a much broader usage, as people can have moe for things like abandoned buildings (haikyo-moe) http://bangin.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/%e5%bb%83%e5%a2%9f%e8%90%8c%e3%81%88haikyo-moe/#more-2675. To quote wikipedia "The word has come to be used to mean one particular kind of "adorable", one specific type of "cute", mainly as applied to fictional characters."
RyanSaotome said:
Nobody feels any kind of attraction to the girls in Nichijou, because every single character has the exact same body, and just different clothes clothes and facial features.

Anime character all rook same. This has never stopped anybody from finding anime characters attractive. If you look on Pixiv or the various boorus, you will find NSFW fanart of Nichijou characters. So clearly someone is fetishizing them.
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After reading some opinions on this topic I came to the conclusion that Japanese otaku definitely weird people. Of course I knew it before, but considering the low sales of Nichijou and for example the high sales of Infinite Stratos, I just don't get it. I remember not understanding why IS got such high sales when the sales chart was released, if I'm right I even did post something in that topic.
IS was fairly entertaining, but is something I would even spend a penny on. Nichijou is awesome, and is just perfect in every way in my opinion. Yes, the characters are not moeblob or they have tried to make them more attractive looking as in Clannad, but I like the character for what they are.
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Ovindel said:
After reading some opinions on this topic I came to the conclusion that Japanese otaku definitely weird people. Of course I knew it before, but considering the low sales of Nichijou and for example the high sales of Infinite Stratos, I just don't get it. I remember not understanding why IS got such high sales when the sales chart was released, if I'm right I even did post something in that topic.
IS was fairly entertaining, but is something I would even spend a penny on. Nichijou is awesome, and is just perfect in every way in my opinion. Yes, the characters are not moeblob or they have tried to make them more attractive looking as in Clannad, but I like the character for what they are.


Infinite Stratos wasn't only because of cute girls... it was already a very popular light novel franchise in Japan that had a large existing fanbase, similar to Ore no Imouto and Boku Tomo this Fall season. So when you have a giant fanbase like that to begin with, its a lot easier to sell it to. Nobody in the West really read those novels before hand so there was no initial hype for it, so people didn't really care about IS.

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Whoa. Well, thats pretty disappointing.
I'm pretty everyone enjoyed Nichijou.
Thats sad. But hey, its just the sales, right?

I mean, we all love it. But, thats really
some down new there nhm. D:
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I kinda of saw this coming from far back. The jokes seemed to lose their freshness, and it's budget seemed to be enormously high. Of course it would be difficult to break even in selling a show when half a fortune was invested into it.
Oct 1, 2011 4:08 PM

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Nichijou was awesome.
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Nichijou was so lack-luster. To coin an old term; "all style no substance". But KyoAni is still a great studio so the whole "reputation lost" thing sounds like an overreaction.
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It truly is a shame it had to become this way Nichijou is done very well to such a disappointment.
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People on this thread doesn't seen to get it -_-

Listen up americans. Why did Nichijou not sell well.
1. Kyoto animation practically promised moe titles with their current reputation. So naturally, Otakus assumed it was amoe title and overhyped it(likely through 2chan).
2. It's contents included slice of life. NO MOE.
as you can see, people were disappointed when this show was not a moe title. It would be far-fetched to think it would still sell that much......
3. Even if there was no moe, Otakus loved characters that are memorable, so it should've sold lots. Right? Wrong. None of the characters were very impressionate, so not even that could help them.....
4. But what about the plot? None? Yeah.....
5. Hey the comedy was good right!?
......
Surly it was amusing. But with the amount if audience turned off. I'll be hard-pressed to find a person to not watch sazae-San, doraemon, or crayon shin-chan...... In other words, TGE humor was forced and outclassed.

7. Great expectations
Low impression
Low audience
Low sales

It's like astrolotte no omocha again.....
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Oct 1, 2011 4:41 PM

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Kalamity-kun said:
I kinda of saw this coming from far back. The jokes seemed to lose their freshness, and it's budget seemed to be enormously high. Of course it would be difficult to break even in selling a show when half a fortune was invested into it.

You sir, speak the truth. I love your avatar too btw!
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I didn't care for Nichijou. So I can understand why it wouldn't sell.

I wonder what KyoAni has up their sleeves for the future though. Other than the K-ON! movie that is.
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This show was my favorite this year by far! This is not fair. R-15... LOL REALLY?? That show fails. Nichijou wins.

Will buy asap.

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nichijou was one of the best anime this season

r15 sucked
tenma sucked

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Oct 1, 2011 5:58 PM
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The whole industry is supported by 1000 fat Japanese nerds who buy the million yen blu rays. Nichijou wasn't moe enough, the nerds didn't buy it, and KyoAni was disgraced. Having learned to never stray from the ways of moe, there is now officially no chance in hell of KyoAni spending valuable time and resources on animating the rest of Full Metal Panic!
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Nichijou was fucking great. The only reason it didn't sell was because it wasn't complete moeshit. I hate blaming moe for problems in the industry but I just cannot this time.
Oct 1, 2011 6:36 PM

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I was planning to watch Nichijou! ( I will someday )
Oct 1, 2011 7:30 PM

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Well, Nichijou was airing as a kid's anime... Kid's anime don't sell as well as adult/teen's.

And it was also competing with Tiger & Bunny and Madoka Magica. :/ Kinda a hard match...
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Really? Nichijou was maybe my third favorite anime this year, right behind Steins;Gate and Madoka. It was the most fun I had watching an anime this year, and I love the humor. In my opinion, It's one of KyoAni's best shows. It's a shame it's not selling well because it's aparantly "not moe enough," when before people were dismissing it for being "moe crap"
Oct 1, 2011 9:31 PM

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I just finished Nichijou, and now I'm even more dissapointed >_<
Oct 1, 2011 9:44 PM

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I didn't care for Nichijou. So I can understand why it wouldn't sell.

What?
Oct 1, 2011 10:01 PM

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GarLogan78 said:
I didn't care for Nichijou. So I can understand why it wouldn't sell.

I wonder what KyoAni has up their sleeves for the future though. Other than the K-ON! movie that is.

Haruhi season three would be a good guess. But damn I want to see full metal panic animated!

but either way, the show was lackluster in The character, plot, and comedy(non-forced) department along with the cost.....

Yeah I can see why it didn't sell well besides the post I made earlier.
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Really? Nichijou was maybe my third favorite anime this year, right behind Steins;Gate and Madoka. It was the most fun I had watching an anime this year, and I love the humor. In my opinion, It's one of KyoAni's best shows. It's a shame it's not selling well because it's aparantly "not moe enough," when before people were dismissing it for being "moe crap"


No. It wasn't "good." in the sense of characters and comedy which is what people are looking for here.

Stomped expectations + high price = low sales
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This show deserves failure. It was one of the worst comedy show I could ever imagine from any studio. They basically 'poured' money into it, only to fail miserably as expected.

It was THE worst show that Kyoani has ever done. 2ch response was mostly just 'all expected'. Even Japanese thought it was unfunny, even though many part of it was word play and some random shits.
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Nichijou wasn't that bad!


Wasn't that bad? It wasn't even bad at all. In fact, it was probably the most hilarious shit I've seen in anime so far.

I absolutely love the character design and animation as well. All this comes from KyoAni so I'm surprised at such low sales. Gr. I should buy the DVD of the series or something.

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nichijou was one of the best anime this season

r15 sucked
tenma sucked


^^ this, r15 and tenma sucks
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Oct 2, 2011 12:42 AM

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Kyoani prays to get another bestseller like Haruhi.
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That's bad news. Nichijou always made my sunday a better day.
I don't care much about R-15 and Tenma Usagi though, I didn't like them.
Oct 2, 2011 1:51 AM

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Kyo Ani dd a good job with the animation and quality of Nichijou... and it was funny too... but you all have to admit it wasn't ... Valuable enough... at least if compared to Kyo Ani's works like CLANNAD - Haruhi or Lucky Star...
well the characters were bland... I dunno I still loved it though...
I think it lacked passion... [as if lucky star did] HAHA I guess it just wasn't their season
Oct 2, 2011 2:15 AM

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How is reusing the same forced facial expressions for 26 episodes comedy gold, am I missing something here
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I know that Nichijou won't do a hit money-wise, but it sure gets pretty huge popularity and laughs.

Have heard that there are some otaku who buys hundreds of DVDs/BDs of their own moe-anime? Too bad Nichijou won't be able to do that since it has almost zero appeal as a sex-fetish.

But I love Nichijou.
Nichijou also made me realizes that I will be loyal and faithful to KyoAni. Maybe forever.
(Not that I dislike other studios but I already believe that KyoAni has proofed themself that they can make anything they touch into gold. Even though maybe this gold aren't too sell-able)
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Why is it that good shows don't sell. Why is people so infatuated with crap like R-15
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See other forums from many countries not just japan and you will see how popular Nichijou is.
I laughed. From what I know, Nichijou never got good reputation even from the start by most of East Asian Otakus. In the voting, it was 'THE MOST DISAPPOINTING ANIMATION OF THE SPRING SEASON". It's just because there are average more Kyoto animation fans who are more active in the internet. Opinions from those who are not actual consumer of animation should never be counted.

Eww.

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So, seemingly minor nuances in translation can change meanings pretty sharply. Depending on what nuance he intended, he's either full of shit or absolutely correct.
He is full of shit and absolutely correct at the same time. He is also one who criticised Shinbo 'DIRECTLY', and said that Madoka Magica is evaluated higher than Staff's ability. He came from the same school that Suzuki Shunji went and many people saw that comment as either butthurt, jealousy and just conservative shit. If you read through his tweets, there are just full of shits.
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Oh, wow. I've yet to watch all of Nichijou, but it seemed so promising. What I've seen was hillarous. It's hard to believe they didn't even make the break-even point. I've heard nothing but positive reviews of Nichijou. Oh, well. I guess loving it to death and buying the merchandise are 2 completely unrelated things...
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Nichijou had me laughing and it had me hooked...i think its the peoples problem for not appreciating such nice work...its funny and it reminds me of Azumanga Daioh...I think people cant appreciate its pure Comedy...
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Very sad because Nichijou was really good. Lots better then Lucky Star, K-ON, or any other similar show.
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Crap like Itsuka Tenma was sold more?

Sucks. Poor Nichijou, I really loved it. People have no tastes. :(

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Crap like Itsuka Tenma was sold more?

Sucks. Poor Nichijou, I really loved it. People have no tastes. :(


It says that Nichijou, Itsuka Tenma and R-15 didn't even reach the break-even point, that means they are all in the same situation, but we don't know which of 3 sold more... (if you want to do a "Best of the Worst").
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-Vid said:
Crap like Itsuka Tenma was sold more?

Sucks. Poor Nichijou, I really loved it. People have no tastes. :(


Itsuka Tenma probably doesn't even hit 2k, while Nichijou sold 4k. He just was saying that none of those shows broke even.

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