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| If it turns out that way(that the tragedy won't happen), i don't know, but what will the story of PH be? It's like PH revolved around this tragedy and everything surrounding it, so without it, I kinda feel like: "Hey, is this pandora hearts?" Without the tragedy, Jack won't kill Glen,so maybe, just maybe, Oz and Leo won't turn up to be the reincarnations of those two. No hero of sablier. No four Duke Houses (as we know it today). No Pandora. No Oz's-existence-is-his-sin thing. No distorted Abyss. And maybe no Alice the B-Rabbit. Etc, etc. It will not just be different, but it will be a completely new story (I guess). I wonder how will that story go. If it did go that way,maybe everything will be okay and everyone will live happily ever after......THE END... hahahah (i just get all damn confused when it comes to time-distorting schemes..hahah) But if Mochizuki pull it off impressively, well,ALL HAIL JUN MOCHIZUKI!!!! hahah We'll just wait. X3 |
GennyMon said: If Vincents wish becomes true, then everything from that point on would be different o.o Very... very different... Yeah, but damn, I wouldn't want to put myself through that. xD Reasoning flawless as always.. Liinah said: It's true, everything will be different. If Vincent erase his existence, then the first Sablier Tragedy wouldn't have existed, right? Vincent obviously thinks it wouldn't have, but come on... He only played a part in that. They could have found someone else. I'm pretty sure they would find someone. Besides, we know from Break's example that those wishes always backfire somehow. Um, idk, Mochizuki is a troll after all, but there's a difference between trolling and messing up your own manga. So the "no tragedy, everyone's happy and the whole plot turned out not to be real since everything was erased" ending seems somewhat unlikely. I mean, it would suck. Oo |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| LOL....I love the "cop out"......Elliot didn't write the song....Leo wrote the song... BULLSHIT!!! They tell us this NOW....NOW that Elliot is dead, classic "Deux Ex Machina".... I've been thinking about the song thing ever since Elliot died, and I couldn't make sense of it.....now it all falls perfectly into place....surely it was all planned this way *Rolls Eyes* |
| You do realize we already knew that Leo wrote Lacie for months now? Chapter 63 just clarifies why Elliot had a brainfart back at the school and said he wrote it himself instead of Statique. |
GracefulDownfall said: Um, idk, Mochizuki is a troll after all, but there's a difference between trolling and messing up your own manga. So the "no tragedy, everyone's happy and the whole plot turned out not to be real since everything was erased" ending seems somewhat unlikely. I mean, it would suck. Oo ..yah..that's what I mean. It would totally suck. So mochizuki should come up with a proper ending (not that I like it to end though). *o* |
Neiru2012 said: You do realize we already knew that Leo wrote Lacie for months now? Chapter 63 just clarifies why Elliot had a brainfart back at the school and said he wrote it himself instead of Statique. I guess I completely missed that.....still, it seems like a cop out. |
| Thoroughly loved everything about this chapter, but then again--that's nothing new. Really curious to see how Oz deals with this. His relationship with Leo was rather interesting, and it's sad that things are turning out this way. =/ Glen vs. Jack once again, it seems. But it sounds like the Baskervilles' goal doesn't seem quite so terrible?? I'm curious how much their goal conflicts with the Will of the Abyss, who apparently wants to be free of the Abyss. She's become quite the conundrum... |
Neiru2012 said: bwahahachick said: From the way she talked, it seemed like she had been forced into becoming the Will of the Abyss in some way. Or perhaps it was accidental? Since Oz's sin is his very existence in the sense that Alyss chases after him, I blame Jack. I think the "Will of the Abyss" used to be a neutral, unbiased God/dess-like force. Somehow it got incarnated into 100-years-ago Alice, and she was put in a tower to keep her neutral. Then Jack came in and started treating her like a person, so she started acting like a person - developing her own desires and biases, namely for Jack. So now you got a Goddess with the mind of a horny teenage girl chasing after Jack across lifetimes and distorting the rest of world to her own desires instead of being an impersonal background force. Baskervilles want to restore balance to the Abyss and the world. /probably wrong Woah Woah woah, Horny??? The only think I've seen Ecchi is the drunk part(if the episode where they get drunk and then Alice undresses in the manga in front of Oz is in the manga) that's about all I think that's Horny. Even though she bites Oz...I don't have any other way to think of her as Horny. I want an Oz and Alice relationship conclusion though...I'd be happy if it happened soon :p |
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Jaymie said: dbaranyi said: I'm getting tired of all of this fangirl-focussed back story crap. I want the story to get back to Oz and Alice, and screw all of the bishiis! I had a year long subscription to G Fantasy just so I could be assured of reading Pandora Hearts regularly, and the past year's worth of chapters have been garbage with little of Oz and nothing of Alice. The author has just lost it and is wandering around writing pretentious drivel. So I've dropped the subscription - I'm "voting with my wallet". Let me guess, you're only reading PH to get a tsundere fixture. If you didn't like the Yura arc, you shouldn't be reading PH anyway. Tsundere is famous for this story for the people who like romance. Many would like Alice and Oz to find something between them. |
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Mangaka-Tsu said: Neiru2012 said: I think the "Will of the Abyss" used to be a neutral, unbiased God/dess-like force. Somehow it got incarnated into 100-years-ago Alice, and she was put in a tower to keep her neutral. Then Jack came in and started treating her like a person, so she started acting like a person - developing her own desires and biases, namely for Jack. So now you got a Goddess with the mind of a horny teenage girl chasing after Jack across lifetimes and distorting the rest of world to her own desires instead of being an impersonal background force. Woah Woah woah, Horny??? The only think I've seen Ecchi is the drunk part(if the episode where they get drunk and then Alice undresses in the manga in front of Oz is in the manga) that's about all I think that's Horny. Even though she bites Oz...I don't have any other way to think of her as Horny. ORLY |
Neiru2012 said: Mangaka-Tsu said: Neiru2012 said: I think the "Will of the Abyss" used to be a neutral, unbiased God/dess-like force. Somehow it got incarnated into 100-years-ago Alice, and she was put in a tower to keep her neutral. Then Jack came in and started treating her like a person, so she started acting like a person - developing her own desires and biases, namely for Jack. So now you got a Goddess with the mind of a horny teenage girl chasing after Jack across lifetimes and distorting the rest of world to her own desires instead of being an impersonal background force. Woah Woah woah, Horny??? The only think I've seen Ecchi is the drunk part(if the episode where they get drunk and then Alice undresses in the manga in front of Oz is in the manga) that's about all I think that's Horny. Even though she bites Oz...I don't have any other way to think of her as Horny. ORLY ^ That, and the way she was obsessively looking for Jack. She obviously had somewhat of a crush on him. Besides, she's a teenager, for god's sake. Most of us probably wouldn't only like to talk and drink tea all the time. She is only 13 though...but age in PH seems to be somewhat irrelevant Oo Just because it's not too obvious doesn't mean it's not there. That would be like saying that Vincent didn't plan on having sex with Ada. Mangaka-Tsu said: Tsundere is famous for this story for the people who like romance. Many would like Alice and Oz to find something between them. That's true, but it's not a romance manga. One can't expect to just have Oz x Alice moments all the time. Besides, we had those in the Yura arc :o |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| Hi guys .. I`m a new member here .. about the ch 63 .. i don`t loved it so much,but it was a good chapter . anyaway,i`ve a Question :) how can break save his promise to THE Will of the Abyss,is he going to save Alice at first or he`ll do her other requist ? |
| So, I'm disappointed in Leo.. |
| So the Baskervilles aren't just pur eevil, huh? And to think that the White Alice just wants to be freed from being the will of abyss...Oz vs Leo? Sounds quite cool. |
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| There have been quite a few reveal over those last couple of chapters that make the plot a bit clearer. Certainly can't complain about that. As a side note, it's really helpful that the scanlation I'm reading has points out the chapters certain scenes are referring to. I had to re-read the chapters with Break's past/him being in Abyss Alice's room to refresh my memories a bit. |
| Nice to see more of Leo's past. Wonder what's up with Rufus. Poor Alyss, so that's her wish... not surprising considering how long she's been stuck there god knows how... Welp, there goes Leo... |
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| Oh Leo, Elliot would be so disappointed right now ): |
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| Oh my... Leo ended up as an enemy of Oz. Though what I get from this chapter seems to be that the Baskerville were trying to return the Abyss into its original form by making so many sacrifices to do so. |
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