OtonashiYuzuru said: fine, but someone might think they're not racist and then go on to say that other races don't have as large of a role in society, and call it an observation, it's still racist. Men, may be physically stronger in most cases, but this is it. Still I'm glad you think that way XD, about the equality that is. Now, it depends a lot on the way it is delivered. If I go and say, "blacks predominate on prisons", it's merely an observation and although it's racist alright, it's clearly not meant in an offensive way(and it's actually correct by statistics, at least here in Brazil XP). Now if I say "blacks predominate on prison because they're all a bunch of thieves", now THAT'S a problem, because it's clearly meant as an offense. There's a fine line between the two, but it really changes the result. And I'm NOT racist, just in case XD |
| Though there is no factual evidence to prove that this is a "Man's world", and I'd say it goes beyond an observation into stereotyping. XD edit: If Hilary Clinton became president of America, this would most definitely not be a man's world. |
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| It's kinda hard to get evidence nowadays, since it's starting to change tables pretty quick. But go just like, 20 years ago and men's dominance so clear it's not even funny. Go a bit more and you'll be lucky to find anything that disproves it. Women weren't even considered capable of their own opinion for a long time... I just hope they don't want revenge for that >_> |
| true, but we don't live in the past, it's called progression, it's what got us out of caves. Lol, I doubt they want revenge XD |
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Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eOK, I don't want to sound sexist, but as far as women have come, they are still lacking in power and the overall dominance of men. Women still earn less than man, man still control the majority of the top positions in the work place and in government, and TV, movies, and music still use women as SEX OBJECTS. C'mon, nothing has changed, women have more rights, but the world is still leaning towards men, I never said this was a good or fair system, I just said that that's how it is. |
alexcampos said: Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eOK, I don't want to sound sexist, but as far as women have come, they are still lacking in power and the overall dominance of men. Women still earn less than man, man still control the majority of the top positions in the work place and in government, and TV, movies, and music still use women as SEX OBJECTS. C'mon, nothing has changed, women have more rights, but the world is still leaning towards men, I never said this was a good or fair system, I just said that that's how it is. undeniably true. Other than that, sexuality is a cultural thing. It may be hard to understand for someone who is not part of that culture. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I don't watch Yaoi, it just doesn't appeal to me... at all. There is nothing wrong with watching it or liking it, but for me I really enjoy Yuri, but not Yaoi. For me it would be due to my 'sexual orientation'(straight) this is why I am turned away from Yaoi, but it's different for other people, I don't think you would be gay just because you like Yaoi. |
| I like lesbians so I might check out a yuri anime. I can't imagine a straight dude watching yaoi. I could see chicks watching yaoi because women might get sexually aroused seeing two men get it on just like a lot of guys get sexual aroused watching two o chicks get it on. If it didn't peak your interest then you would not be watching it. |
alexcampos said: Mizore_lollipop said: Remember whether you like it or not this is still a "Man's world", man are still mostly in charge of things and the majority of our society (in the west) is run by and for MEN wtf are u talking about?? Man's world??? Heyy we are in 2010 not in 1920 or whatever e.eOK, I don't want to sound sexist, but as far as women have come, they are still lacking in power and the overall dominance of men. Women still earn less than man, man still control the majority of the top positions in the work place and in government, and TV, movies, and music still use women as SEX OBJECTS. C'mon, nothing has changed, women have more rights, but the world is still leaning towards men, I never said this was a good or fair system, I just said that that's how it is. Women get used as sex objects? Huh don't make me laugh.More like they use there sexuality. I wish i could get thousands for shaking my ass but nobody will pay me. Better jobs for men. Hmm.. i move places a lot and changed jobs. All i have to tell you is that looking at the job adds i could have always found a job a hundred times easier if i was a woman instead of a guy. Also men don't really earn much more than women in the same job at all. But i live in Europe. Also lets forget all the other benefits women get where the law, now are days is always made in there favor and men are looked as the evil muscle pound perverted bullies that must be the evil ones. There are lots of other everyday things. And where the fuck is the world leaning towards men? Every fucking male now our days only does what his wife told him to do. All we are doing is saying "Yes honey". There is equality, hell i will even go and say that women seem stronger than men now. It's just that many of you only look at certain areas like politicians and things and think only those count while completely ignoring other facts of everyday life. And by equality it doesn't mean we have to be perfectly equal at every sector, just balancing things out. Women now look at what sector men are still more involved and say immediately that it's a man's world and their capabilities are being undermined but while they want all those to be change even more in there favor, they never seem to have a problem using the fact that they are females and you have to be good to them or handle the rough things in every other little thing. |
| yeah thats right...women do things that are for mens too and better!! |
Mizore_lollipopAug 25, 2010 12:57 PM
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Women get used as sex objects? Huh don't make me laugh.More like they use there sexuality. I wish i could get thousands for shaking my ass but nobody will pay me. Looking at the wrong place. Go to a country such as Africa or places in the Middle East, and you'll see women being treated WORSE than a sex object. Also men don't really earn much more than women in the same job at all. But i live in Europe. In Europe, that might be true. But for the rest of the world? Not so much. There are places women don't earn even 1/3 of what men do on the same job, it's disgusting. yeah thats right...women do things that are for mens too and better!! Anyone can do better than anyone, it's just a question of working hard XD |
| lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. Then you are blinded by the delusion that women rights are equal to men's even in Western society. Our Western society is not as "ideal" and "utopic" as people tend to believe. And talk about women's right in Japan. It SERIOUSLY sucks because of traditional values. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
S0S_Brigade said: i like lolicon, but i am no pedo. QFT, most aren't and too much usually results in resentment of children anyway. |
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wakka9ca said: OtonashiYuzuru said: lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. Then you are blinded by the delusion that women rights are equal to men's even in Western society. Our Western society is not as "ideal" and "utopic" as people tend to believe. And talk about women's right in Japan. It SERIOUSLY sucks because of traditional values. I in no way think the west is a Utopia, or ideal, but women's rights are equal, unless we're talking about small traditions, however if a women really wanted she could even overcome these. Lol, yeah, in Japan... edit: most people like to find things wrong with their society, it gives them something to work towards, and gives a feeling of solidarity with their peers who think likewise. |
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| i know alot of guys who like Yaoi,and arent gay. They're all drawn so damn girly anyway 9/10 times |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: wakka9ca said: OtonashiYuzuru said: lollopop is right, there is no reason for the world to "lean" more to males in terms of importance in jobs etc, women do everything men do, they maybe less inclined to do manual labour, but this is it. There are many women doctors, lawyers, politicians etc. Though there are places like in the Middle East where women have a low role, but in our western society this is not the case. Then you are blinded by the delusion that women rights are equal to men's even in Western society. Our Western society is not as "ideal" and "utopic" as people tend to believe. And talk about women's right in Japan. It SERIOUSLY sucks because of traditional values. I in no way think the west is a Utopia, or ideal, but women's rights are equal, unless we're talking about small traditions, however if a women really wanted she could even overcome these. Lol, yeah, in Japan... edit: most people like to find things wrong with their society, it gives them something to work towards, and gives a feeling of solidarity with their peers who think likewise. Last time I checked Women still aren't aloud to serve in the Infantry Women aren't aloud in any Major League Sport Women Still earn half of what a man does in the work place Women get hired half as much as men do Women have to work twice as hard as a man does to achieve the same potions and status Women are under represented in nearly EVERY job field. Women still run into glass ceilings in many job fields Women have half the career success rate men do If you think a woman's rights are anywhere near Equal as man's rights in the West your woefully naive. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| lol, when was the last time you checked?? plus, I watched the Women's world cup rugby the other day, England won XD plus If you read one of my previous posts, I said that, obviously, as there is a difference in men and women men will be me more suited to things that involve more manual labour, that doesn't make the world un-balanced at all, and women get paid just as much as men do, at least they do in England. PS. Hilary Clinton would have had a pretty high ceiling if she became President. |
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| Sort of, sometimes you can get bored of normal porn and then stretch over to other stuff, though if you consistently go back to gay porn they it's safe to say that one would be bi sexual. |
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| ummm where I live...Men dont are superior than women...and women can do the same things that a men do !!! MEN DONT ARE SUPERIOR ! -.-'' |
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| Hearing people say that men are more powerful than women annoys me. Of course it is traditional that the man goes out to work and dominates the family. We are the 21st century, so this needs to change. I'm pretty confident that mentally and physically, I am more powerful than your everyday man. (WOah, arrogance here lol) I'm just making a point. Women can be more powerful than men. It annoys the hell out of me to hear that men are more dominant and powerful. Which explains my outburst of arrogance up there, LOL. It's generalizing and pigeonholing people. Right, well whatever on that lol. Back on topic: I like yuri, yaoi and shoujo too. I'm not a lesbian. I love how innocent and sweet yuri is sometimes portrayed. There is a difference between reality and the 2d world (as many have mentioned) I sometimes fancy females in anime/manga but never in real life. Which is unexplainable, lol. I've had some straight guy friends before who watch yaoi:D Loads of girls watch yuri aswell. |
| making a signature at the moment >:) |
| It's wrong to treat women like sex objects, and yet here we are discussing anime which is one of the BIGGEST, most sexist forms of entertainment. C'mon, most anime is aimed for males, the amount of fanservice has increased every year, but we're supposed to believe that men and women are equals??? Japan is probably the one of the most advanced nations in the world, if they are still treating women as sex objects (AND SO IS THE U.S), what chance do we have of ever having "equality". Facts are still facts: http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/C350.pdf The wage gap between men and women have gotten closer, but it's still Men earning $1.00 compared to $0.80 for women. and for anyone who believes that women are NOT treated as sex objects, you are completely delusional......for god sakes you people watch ANIME, they show girls to be a piece of meat meant to be idolized only for their looks. |
| Go watch strawberry panic its a great yuri anime i love girl on girl action! |
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darkmvr said: yeah I already watched it !! :DGo watch strawberry panic its a great yuri anime i love girl on girl action! |
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| Yaoi is disgusting. eww. blargh |
| Explain. |
Zaikin said: Is disgusting for you xDYaoi is disgusting. eww. blargh |
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| The only yaoi that's disgusting are anime/manga like Boku no Pico, stuff like this should have never been made. Your average good BL anime/manga in general is ok. |
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| I'm bi so I hope I can answer this in a good way. It doesn't per say if I was to say "I really like Loveless", would that make me gay? No, it could just mean that I like the story, and the yaoi is just a side factor I deal with. I went through Nabari no Ou, and still liked it even with the YoitexMiharu. I have to admit though that I don't care for Junjou Romantica. On the lesbian side of things I'd like to say that things like Simoun, Nanoha, and Candy Boy don;t make you say for them just being for entertainment. The girls that I sit by talk about yaoi to death at my lunch table, one girl even admitted that she did find Strawberry Panic quite nice. Nutshell: It's just entertainment, now if you decide to go beyond that with pics, fan art, etc. then I'd assume that someone should take a look in retrospect fr themselves to answer. |
darkmvr said: I dropped it.Go watch strawberry panic its a great yuri anime i love girl on girl action! And in terms of disgust, futanari is probably better than yaoi. Magically grown penises scares the hell outta me. |
Tachii said: darkmvr said: I dropped it.Go watch strawberry panic its a great yuri anime i love girl on girl action! Surprisingly I also dropped strawberry panic, for some reason I find Non-Hentai Yuri to be VERY boring and not to my tastes at all. I actually think shows like Marimite and strawberry panic are more for lesbian girls or girls in general, it's incredibly romantic and some of the girls don't look girly at all, they have more of a masculine look that are supposed to attract girls rather than males. If I want to see Yuri, I'll stick with hentai, what's the point of watching lesbians if they're not going to have sex??? |
alexcampos said: It's wrong to treat women like sex objects, and yet here we are discussing anime which is one of the BIGGEST, most sexist forms of entertainment. C'mon, most anime is aimed for males, the amount of fanservice has increased every year, but we're supposed to believe that men and women are equals??? and for anyone who believes that women are NOT treated as sex objects, you are completely delusional......for god sakes you people watch ANIME, they show girls to be a piece of meat meant to be idolized only for their looks. Yeah and magazines for women are more than they are for men, more shops sell clothes for women and all that, what's your point? It's called business you idiot, it's not about discrimination . Anime are more popular with males so they give more attention to the ones that give them the bigger sales. And don't make me laugh about your sex object comment. What exactly is the sex object treatment anyway and what exactly is the evil thing about it? Anime girls are not only judge by there looks and there is nothing wrong in appreciating beauty. Also they are not even real so i don't see what women issues this can possibly raise. alexcampos said: Japan is probably the one of the most advanced nations in the world, if they are still treating women as sex objects (AND SO IS THE U.S), what chance do we have of ever having "equality". Facts are still facts: http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/C350.pdf The wage gap between men and women have gotten closer, but it's still Men earning $1.00 compared to $0.80 for women. . The stupid researches full of holes by certain groups of people mean shit. There are so many factors they don't even calculate when they search salary ratios and all that, that it's completely ridiculous. Also i will like to know why does every little aspect of life where women are not dominating is considered to be part of discrimination against them but every aspect where they are dominating and men are losing is just the right way and no one sees it as discrimination? |
| Damn it, i wish i could find the bi couriouse clip from that one South Park episode. lol |
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| @Monad I think you misunderstood me, I was only showing some facts and stating what is commonly known, whether you want to see it as discrimination towards women or not, I COULD CARE LESS. I'm not a girl, and I don't have to worry about earning 80% of what men get in America, I don't have to be seen and valued only for my looks, again I'm not fighting for women rights nor do I really care if they earn less than men, they have other advantages, and we all know what they are. |
| Well. I like yuri quite a bit [usually the lighter kind, Girls Love is what it is called, right?] but to be completely frank, I wouldn't go for a relationship like that. I just love the extremely sweet and fluffy relationships. Not to mention there aren't as many cliches [from my experience at least.] XD |
Hoppy said: The only yaoi that's disgusting are anime/manga like Boku no Pico, stuff like this should have never been made. Your average good BL anime/manga in general is ok. This although I don't like a couple of others too but Boku no Pico was way too extreme even for my tastes. |
| I will never understand why is Boku no Pico considered extreme. The thing is totally casual, cute and relaxing. I mean, take the second OVA for example. First they meet and become friends, then you have quite a few scenes of them spending fun time with each other, laughing, playing in the house, riding a bike etc. And then later on you have the "sex", which is portrayed in such a cute way of boys exploring their bodies and having fun. No lusting, no forbidden love, just fun. There's no rape, no forcing sex on one another in any way, it's completely mutual. There are no weird fetishes that may creep someone out, nothing. Yeah, the first OVA is about an adult guy that has sex with Pico, but we all know hentai is a fictional world, where young children ARE responsible enough to explore their sexuality, and have a relationship. Such a thing would be extremely rare, if not impossible, in the real world, but here it isn't. Boku no Pico covers the romantic side of things, and they are both attracted to each other, so I really see no problem there. I mean, if children in RL were mature enough to have a relationship, you would think it's still disgusting just because they're young? Think out of the box a little, THE ANIME IS NOT REALISTIC. If I want to see Yuri, I'll stick with hentai, what's the point of watching lesbians if they're not going to have sex??? And thank you for this insight into the disgusting stereotype of male mentality, this just goes to show how much your opinion is worth. |
Sonic_MoronicAug 27, 2010 4:56 PM
Sonic_Moronic said: If I want to see Yuri, I'll stick with hentai, what's the point of watching lesbians if they're not going to have sex??? And thank you for this insight into the disgusting stereotype of male mentality, this just goes to show how much your opinion is worth. and thank you for NOT respecting someone else's opinion, whether it's stereotypical or not, that's how I feel, not everyone has to be like me, and I wouldn't want to say things that are false about myself, this is how I feel why should you make a stupid comment about how I AM, I never said everyone is like this. and here you are talking about "ANIME NOT BEING REALISTIC", really, did it take something stupid and "disgusting" such as Boku no Pico to realize this??? ALL ANIME is not realistic, even those that follow Real World rules are still fake and ridiculous, it's all entertainment not a guide to how people live and how they are. |
"alexcampos" said: and here you are talking about "ANIME NOT BEING REALISTIC", really, did it take something stupid and "disgusting" such as Boku no Pico to realize this??? ALL ANIME is not realistic, even those that follow Real World rules are still fake and ridiculous, it's all entertainment not a guide to how people live and how they are. I realize that, but the others don't seem to, bro. Otherwise they wouldn't make stupid comments towards fiction where different rules apply, and actions that are at least questionable in our world are no longer so. |
| No for so many reasons. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Not really for both questions. Although at least the girl knows what's good and the boy is an idiot. |
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| it usually applies to guys. there are soo many girls that read yuri and they are straight. im a straight guy and i hate yuri and yaoi. cause its gay. jk but i dont like that it fucks with my head, its not moral to be digging your own sex gender. everyone who understands the principle will know that we always want to be with someone who is different from just us. i dont like to be around guys always, cause if find them total duches. same for a girl, she might not feel attractive to her own sex gender and there are many factors and reasons behind it. if someone to transform me into a girl. i would probably redego the hormonal process and start seeing digging guys more. because i would see them differenly in my point of view. than if i were part of them. the last that could happen. |
HypeMasterNov 24, 2013 9:04 AM
| I have a friend who reads yaoi. But he's straight.. ..I suppose. |
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| To a certain extent, yes. |
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