net_nomad said: I think typical straight guys like bisexual girls as it increases the chances of a threesome with two women.Tonberries said: Mizore_lollipop said: haha well Im a girl...I like yuri and yaoi,I Definitely not a lesbian. But some guys like yaoi and the people think they are gay just because they like it...(I dont have anything against Gays or lesbian) Bi, which is never a bad thing for girls Or for guys. FYI i'm straight, just not typical. =p Not really bothered about relationships or sex. |
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| I love yuri more than yaoi. I'm bi and a lady. straight is cool 2. traps = <3 |
MajorJoseph said: net_nomad said: I think typical straight guys like bisexual girls as it increases the chances of a threesome with two women.Tonberries said: Mizore_lollipop said: haha well Im a girl...I like yuri and yaoi,I Definitely not a lesbian. But some guys like yaoi and the people think they are gay just because they like it...(I dont have anything against Gays or lesbian) Bi, which is never a bad thing for girls Or for guys. FYI i'm straight, just not typical. =p Not really bothered about relationships or sex. True I don't mind bis in real life, I would like one as long as she isn't a slut who will go after everyone (she needs to have me and one established girlfriend) but in anime/manga it's ok unless cheating is involved then it just kills it for me. |
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| Another yaoi --> gay yuri --> lesbian thread.. I'll stick to my ideals and second this MajorJoseph said: Liking a yuri/yaoi anime is different to being sexually aroused by it. I've seen both and it hasn't affected my orientation whatsoever. Yuri and yaoi are not made for homossexuals. Onitenshi said: How the hell should I know? What is the reason for watching tentacle rape hentai? A wish to get raped by tentacles? I don't think so... An alternative form of ganbang, envolving supernatural creatures? Easier to make since you don't have to make like 5 diferent guys |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
Tsuyu_no_sekai said: Another yaoi --> gay yuri --> lesbian thread.. I'll stick to my ideals and second this MajorJoseph said: Liking a yuri/yaoi anime is different to being sexually aroused by it. I've seen both and it hasn't affected my orientation whatsoever. Yuri and yaoi are not made for homossexuals. Onitenshi said: How the hell should I know? What is the reason for watching tentacle rape hentai? A wish to get raped by tentacles? I don't think so... An alternative form of ganbang, envolving supernatural creatures? Easier to make since you don't have to make like 5 diferent guys Also tentacles is more tasteful than gangrape by 5-6 guys, trust me it's not pleasant to look at and rather have vines, branches, or tentacles doing the dirty work. |
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| It depends on whether or not you get off while watching it. |
| People should lay off this whole "what do I have to do to be gay/bi" stuff, it's pointless. |
| Well, look at it this way. Just because I watch fruit sex, doesn't mean I would want to do a fruit. |
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Jiynnx said: If you're female and read it, you must have atleast some attraction to women. If you're male and read Yaoi, you must have atleast some attraction to men. I think those sorts of Manga are MADE to be for people who are interested in that sex. That's the way I see it anyway. Well, they're not. Special shounen ai, yaoi, which is made for girls. The whole relationship is a fantasy, in real life it's completly diferent. Bara is ment for gay men, idk if there is a similar genre to female on female. Yuri and shoujo ai is made for guys. It's like shounen and shoujo. |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Deleted numerous pointless/trivial posts. Please put thought in to replies if you want to post. As for me, I'm not really a fan of romance at all, whether yuri, yaoi or straight. Though that's usually just because canon pairings are stupid and unbelievable. Hypothetically I'd have no problem with any of it if the story appealed in other ways (eg sufficient comedy). But I digress. I don't think someone liking a particular genre makes them anything. They just like stuff that genre has to offer, for any of countless reasons. |
| ^^I hope that's a rhetorical question Edit: oops, fixed it ;) |
TsuyumAug 23, 2010 4:50 AM
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| I understood, and I agree. Is like people who whatch sci-fi find sci-fi interesting, as simple as that. If it's not this then.. oh well |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Well, it's perfectly normal for guys to like Yuri, but if they like Yaoi, I'd imagine they'd have some form of sexual attraction to it because, quite frankly, I... just don't see why a guy would like that otherwise =.= As for girls, I don't really have the right to comment of this but I find it almost surprising that so many girls like Yaoi... haha. Either way, there's nothing wrong with a girl liking it, and not to sound biased but it just seems a fair lot more normal for a girl to like Yuri than for a boy to like Yaoi. Whatever the case though, if you enjoy it... there's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't have to mean anything... Lolicon, on the other hand, is something I just don't get. I don't like kids irl, and I'm certainly not attracted to them in anime/manga. They can be cute, but nothing more... that's just the way I see it :p |
| I am a bi guy I don't like yuri that much but I like yaoi I can't really say how straight guys feel but I know that there are quite a few who like yaoi too. I don't think reading/watching yaoi/yuri makes you gay/lesbian. I think they should be considered like other manga/anime genres. |
McNagah said: <_<... I'm pretty sure my question wasn't off topic that much... It wasn't, I was just hoping it was your way of answering 'no' to the OP's question, since from what have been said above you could find the answer to your question. McNagah said: If someone likes traps/reverse traps does that make them gay/lesbian? That's all about the looks, you have girls drooling over muscled men and you have girls that prefer guys with a more feminine look. The same applies to buys. Is like asking if a person who likes fat people wishes to be or is fat. ^I'm straight and I like to read some shounen ai, and I don't think that I might be gay nor do I feel attracted to other guys, in other words I'm certain about my sexual orientation. I also don't like yuri |
TsuyumAug 23, 2010 7:23 AM
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Hmmm,, This is a tough question....I think fiction is much more "cleaner"+"safer" + "easier" compare to reality? All you need to do is to turn on the monitor and the yuri/Yaoi is just right in front of you.^_^ I think most people who prefer Yuri/Yaoi in Anime are not lesbian/gay. but if you never try the real thing,you will never know . |
| no, because some lesbians like yaoi and some straight women love yuri. argument is invalid. |
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| I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay??? If I watch gay porn, it's most likely because I'm gay or bi-curious, I think the same should be applied with Yaoi. I'm not hating on anyone, I don't have any ill feelings towards gays, but; if I started to watch Yaoi, I would think I'm no longer playing for the "straight" team. |
alexcampos said: I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay??? Like watching two guys killing each other and not be a mental-sick psycho? The keyterm is fiction |
Onitenshi said: alexcampos said: I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay??? Like watching two guys killing each other and not be a mental-sick psycho? The keyterm is fiction I don't think that's the same, killing is frowned upon by society, there's nothing wrong with being gay. Yaoi may be fiction in terms of the characters and story, but the actual act is something that happens in real life EVERYDAY, killing is not OK by any terms, unless it's a war. |
alexcampos said: Being gay is frowned upon by a lot of people... But I guess killing is more frowned upon...I don't think that's the same, killing is frowned upon by society, there's nothing wrong with being gay. |
| I'm completely straight and I like watching/reading things about homosexual couples on occasion. It's romance, and I like romance. |
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alexcampos said: I don't get this, How can I watch two guys fucking each other and not be gay??? If I watch gay porn, it's most likely because I'm gay or bi-curious, I think the same should be applied with Yaoi. I'm not hating on anyone, I don't have any ill feelings towards gays, but; if I started to watch Yaoi, I would think I'm no longer playing for the "straight" team. This reminded me of something from a movie or show I've seen. Don't recall what it was exactly, but the joke/arguement was that everyone's a little gay/curious. Sure, you watch straight porn, but don't you love it when the guy blows all over the girl? So no, I don't believe watching/reading yaoi/yuri makes you gay. Everyone's just a little curious and everyone watches it for different reasons. |
| I say yes. |
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Embah said: I'm completely straight and I like watching/reading things about homosexual couples on occasion. It's romance, and I like romance. True. I mean.. My point it's if the story is worth reading why shouldn't i? I'm totally straight yet i kinda like shounen-ai and yaoi too |
Haydee said: This reminded me of something from a movie or show I've seen. Don't recall what it was exactly, but the joke/arguement was that everyone's a little gay/curious. Sure, you watch straight porn, but don't you love it when the guy blows all over the girl? So no, I don't believe watching/reading yaoi/yuri makes you gay. Everyone's just a little curious and everyone watches it for different reasons. Well, when you watch a blowjob scene, most of the time you are fantasizing about being that guy who is fucking the girl or being the guy who just cum shot all over some whore. But mostly you enjoy watching the girl get fucked or licked or whatever, the point is you are there to see and enjoy the GIRL, not the guy. I would say 70% of the porn I watch is Lesbians, 20% 3-somes or some kind of scene involving 1 guy and 2+ girls, and finally 10% 1 girl 1 guy scenes. NOW, what the hell can I fantasize with watching 2 guys fuck each other??? |
alexcampos said: Haydee said: This reminded me of something from a movie or show I've seen. Don't recall what it was exactly, but the joke/arguement was that everyone's a little gay/curious. Sure, you watch straight porn, but don't you love it when the guy blows all over the girl? So no, I don't believe watching/reading yaoi/yuri makes you gay. Everyone's just a little curious and everyone watches it for different reasons. Well, when you watch a blowjob scene, most of the time you are fantasizing about being that guy who is fucking the girl or being the guy who just cum shot all over some whore. But mostly you enjoy watching the girl get fucked or licked or whatever, the point is you are there to see and enjoy the GIRL, not the guy. I would say 70% of the porn I watch is Lesbians, 20% 3-somes or some kind of scene involving 1 guy and 2+ girls, and finally 10% 1 girl 1 guy scenes. NOW, what the hell can I fantasize with watching 2 guys fuck each other??? You don't necessarily have to fantasize anything. You can just watch 2 guys fuck each other with an old kindergarten friend of yours just for the lols. Just like that, someone could have a reason for watching it without being gay or curious at all! :) |
MasnoonAug 24, 2010 12:57 AM
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Mizore_lollipop said: haha well Im a girl...I like yuri and yaoi,I Definitely not a lesbian. But some guys like yaoi and the people think they are gay just because they like it...(I dont have anything against Gays or lesbian) Don't be so sure, you are still a teenager. maybe you do have a thing for women and you don't know it yet. Maybe you are bisexual? Well anyway i can't say about women since am not one but considering women magazines still have women on there covers i will say a woman body is considered as a pleasant side even if it's not your sexual preference. Men on the other hand don't work that way. So i think there is a bigger possibility of a man being gay if he likes yaoi than a woman being gay if she likes yuri. For straight men the view of manly naked bodies doing shit is like torture far more than it is for women watching women doing shit. I find it very hard to beleive that a guy isn't at least bisexual if he likes yaoi. As i say girls are like cats. We all find them cute even if we obviously have no sexual desire. The same goes with beautiful women. They are a pretty side even by asexual standards (Notice how gay men still find girls beautiful while lesbians mostly find men disgusting). So an act between two beautiful creatures is not as bad to watch for a straight woman. For the same reason women are a lot more tolerable to all the fanservice thrown for men. I tell you now. If anime had male fanservice in the quantity anime now have female fanservice, all straight males would stop watching anime. Yet girls still watch anime despite seeing cute fanservice girls every few minutes. Why? Because it's let awful for them. Of course if there is a place where a straight man might tolerate watching gay male staff then that is probably yaoi anime and manga since they look further from reality. Hell half the guys look almost like girls. |
MonadAug 24, 2010 6:29 AM
Monad said: For straight men the view of manly naked bodies doing shit is like torture far more than it is for women watching women doing shit. I find it very hard that a guy isn't at least bisexual if he likes yaoi. YES, I have to agree with this, I can't find it in me to watch that type of stuff, I don't have anything against gays, but watching two males do that really puts me in an uncomfortable position and it is like torture, I have watched very few anime that have included yaoi scenes (Ouran was probably the only one) and I was able to get through it only because it was a comedy, if it had been serious, I WOULD NOT HAVE WATCHED IT. I also find it hard to believe that a male can enjoy Yaoi and NOT be gay. Girls are biologically better looking and have more sexuality than men, I can understand girls watching ecchi and even yuri anime and not being lesbians. In fact I remember a female friend once watching R+V and enjoying it, I asked her if she didn't mind the panty shots and the fact that it was meant for guys, she said that she enjoyed watching the comedy and that the girls looked hot and that there was nothing wrong with enjoying an anime that featured bishoujos. |
Monad said: For straight men the view of manly naked bodies doing shit is like torture far more than it is for women watching women doing shit. I find it very hard that a guy isn't at least bisexual if he likes yaoi. The only problem comes when these said "manly naked bodies" are more feminine than girls and their faces cuter than most girls. East Asian male beauty usually comes from femininity, unlike Western male beauty with the manliness factor. This is why guys can enjoy reading/watching yaoi. As for sexual arousal, there are many ways you may have not yet discovered. You may come to discover that gay sex can be more satisfying than straight sex... And yes, it makes you slightly bisexual. Mainly because how perfect and cute the guys look like. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| The hypocrisy is going to kill me. Seriously, I'm dying here. So, the conclusion we've come to is pretty much that women are objectively more attractive then men, and so can admire each other without any sexuality involved, but men are ugly and can't admire other man because that is omg gay. Uh-huh. |
Sonic_MoronicAug 24, 2010 6:24 AM
| LOL!!!! lesbians more accepted than gay men?? |
MorningGlory said: LOL!!!! lesbians more accepted than gay men?? Don't tell me you're surprised, it was always this way. Find a female who hates lesbians. It's obvious that they're more tolerant than men towards gays. Also, I've yet to meet a girl my age who's not at least bi-curious and wouldn't want to try it with a girl at least once. Do you guys live under a rock or what? |
Sonic_Moronic said: The hypocrisy is going to kill me. Seriously, I'm dying here. So, the conclusion we've come to is pretty much that women are objectively more attractive then men, and so can admire each other without any sexuality involved, but men are ugly and can't admire other man because that is omg gay. Uh-huh. There. MorningGlory said: LOL!!!! lesbians more accepted than gay men?? No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. And for the record, Monad, anime also has fanservice for girls, why do you think they put bishounen and all those romantic scenes when they could go trhough without it. And shota is also fanservice for girls. |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Rofl. Do you really mean what you type. Like, seriously. |
| What, this v ? Tsuyu_no_sekai said: No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in. |
Who are you to say that you don't believe in Santa? |
| Oh, right. Didn't realize that. *shame mode* |
Tsuyu_no_sekai said: What, this v ? Tsuyu_no_sekai said: No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in. Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! Girls, in general aren't like this, as it is less of a taboo for them. Btw I'm not saying anything against homosexuals in any way, just highlighting the psychology of all this. |
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| Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips. On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here. So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays. |
shadowsword said: Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips. On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here. So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays. True, but I think they are both accepted for the most part. Not many women hate lesbians, but quite a few men hate gays. Funny thing about sexuality is, it's a modern term, in older times, people used to have sexual relationships with whoever they wanted, though there was never gay marriage. Pretty much, "every hole was a goal" in those times. XD |
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shadowsword said: Well, over here girls can kiss each other without being called lesbians and having people despise them because people here accept that behaviour as a symbol of friendship or cuteness...I am talking even about a kiss on the lips. On the other hand, guys who do something like this are immediately labelled gay...well that's not even really accepted here. So in all I think that lesbians are more accepted than gays. Yeah, that's how it is, and it's poppycock. |
OtonashiYuzuru said: Tsuyu_no_sekai said: What, this v ? Tsuyu_no_sekai said: No, you missed the point. If you are a girl you can look to other girls without being homossexual or bi-curious or whatever you may call it, but if you are a guy you can't look to other guys because that's just being gay. I was being sarcastic when I said that, I don't think this way, but it's pretty much the society we live in. Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! Girls, in general aren't like this, as it is less of a taboo for them. Btw I'm not saying anything against homosexuals in any way, just highlighting the psychology of all this. I don't know if there are more girls who are homossexual or if there are more guys that are gay, but like shadowsword said, lesbians are easily more accepted than gays (applying gay, to homossexual man). Or 'lesbian-behaviour', since sometimes even if they kiss and etc they are not homossexual. Is like girls going to the bathroom together, and two guys going to the bathroom together, what would you instantaniously think? |
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OtonashiYuzuru said: Though it is more normal for girls to be kind of bi, than guys, as guys have a whole macho I'm a man complex, and must act as so!! A straight man finds gay sex disgusting, it has nothing to do with machoness. If you're into aesthetic female bodies your whole life, you won't find watching two big, hairy, muscular guys having sex appealing. |
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