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Jul 16, 2021 2:37 PM
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Cathen99 said:
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I'm getting more interested about the world after watching the episode 3.
People are saying here that they are rushing things oh no. Just I started to get interested in the world


Except for a certain explanation (that they can very well add later, as some have already mentioned), the scenes cut aren't detrimental to the anime as a whole. It's just that for most people who has read the manga, it's likely to be disappointing when things aren't as expected. It's only natural to compare the two, after all.

As an anime-only watcher, I don't think you need to be worried.
The material they will be working with will most likely make it so that they'll adapt around 2 chapters per episode going forward. At least, that's my guess.

Thank you for telling me this. I'm now less worried, thank you.
I hope everything goes ok and I can enjoy the show.
Jul 16, 2021 2:42 PM

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It was a mixed bad for me. But i guess cutting in the start is okay considering this is the weakest part of the whole manga and all the explanations are made later on. By the way the important scenes were charlatan prade which was done well and the kiss. Other then that i hope they dont cut that much later on in the story...Especially the fight scenes!!!
3/5 for this episode though however this is only from the manga reader point of view. I think the anime onlies will not have that much of an issue with this
Jul 16, 2021 2:55 PM

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Kudos to voice actors for this episode, Hanae Natsuki nailed Vanitas's fake-dramatic voice.

I am sad they ended up cutting some stuff. The thing with Mochizuki's work is that it's a building mystery; something unimportant now may end up actually being foreshadowing later on. Well, the comedy probably won't be it but it's still enjoyable.
They didn't say that Jeanne was put into an induced slumber before Ruthven woke her up and they shortened Noe's flashback. Probably the most alarming change is the absence of very crucial world explanation, but as others said it's not too late to focus on that later.

On the brighter side, the animation was as nice as always. If I had to nitpick I would say that Charlatan's parade looked way spookier in the manga. The scene when Charlatan appeared behind her should have been done like a horror scene with creepy music in the background. Everything else is great. We finally got to see Domi and can't wait for more of her.
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Jul 16, 2021 3:27 PM

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They made well that kiss scene, and, Domi is here!!


Sorry for bothering but where is that gif from? You also have her as your pofile picture :0
I took the gifs from the tumblr blog VanitasnoShuki and joined them. Also, my profile picture is Leo, not Domi. Just in (the oddest) case, if you are asking for the name of the character/anime, precisely, she is Dominique de Sade from The Case Study of Vanitas.
Jul 16, 2021 3:50 PM

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We saw a lot of new things, pretty interesting and informative.
Pretty good episode, comedy was amazing too. And the FANSERVICE scene. That was some next level shit.
Well Noe has some interesting, special powers.
Domi's design is cool, reminds me of Amagi Brilliant Park xD
And now they're in the ''vampire'' Paris I guess.


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Jul 16, 2021 3:58 PM

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Shimai_ni said:
Kudos to voice actors for this episode, Hanae Natsuki nailed Vanitas's fake-dramatic voice.

I am sad they ended up cutting some stuff. The thing with Mochizuki's work is that it's a building mystery; something unimportant now may end up actually being foreshadowing later on. Well, the comedy probably won't be it but it's still enjoyable.
They didn't say that Jeanne was put into an induced slumber before Ruthven woke her up and they shortened Noe's flashback. Probably the most alarming change is the absence of very crucial world explanation, but as others said it's not too late to focus on that later.

On the brighter side, the animation was as nice as always. If I had to nitpick I would say that Charlatan's parade looked way spookier in the manga. The scene when Charlatan appeared behind her should have been done like a horror scene with creepy music in the background. Everything else is great. We finally got to see Domi and can't wait for more of her.
Well thats why they are taking priority in adapting the dialouges and information more..Well I am a bit disappointed but i guess it was necessary.In any case considering this is the weakest part of the manga, I dont really mind that much cutting. But I hope they nail the most important scenes in the story especially the piano one with chloe in the second half!
Jul 16, 2021 4:00 PM

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That kiss was so unexpected, but that Jeanne blush is just so precious!

Amelia's memory was absolutely horrifying, not surprising why she doesn't remember or want to remember it. That's traumatically creepy! Charlatan literally devoured her head...

This new girl Domi is great, I love her and I instantly recognized her voice. I give them that much, they know how to characters look great!

I love this alternative world Paris. Or vampire world I should say.
Jul 16, 2021 4:10 PM

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that kiss was pretty yikes but people have said that they're love interests so hopefully there's mutual feelings later and not just sexual harassment

i haven't read the manga but it felt a bit rushed to me.. well the next part in the vampire world looks cool so I won't complain
Jul 16, 2021 4:20 PM

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EeveeRosa said:
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it is needed to build a romance between the two later, and that is the beginning.


You didn't understand, I said the kiss was bizarre because they didn't have any chemistry, they didn't know each other before, and it seemed like the guy forced it, it was almost like a harassment, because he didn't even ask, it was totally one-sided, even if she liked it, it was just a consequence.


It was more to portray the character of Vanitas. You aren't supposed to take him for a good guy straight off the bat; or even if he is, he has a horrible personality.
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Jul 16, 2021 4:25 PM
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Laplace_kun said:
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You didn't understand, I said the kiss was bizarre because they didn't have any chemistry, they didn't know each other before, and it seemed like the guy forced it, it was almost like a harassment, because he didn't even ask, it was totally one-sided, even if she liked it, it was just a consequence.


It was more to portray the character of Vanitas. You aren't supposed to take him for a good guy straight off the bat; or even if he is, he has a horrible personality.


It unfortunately portrays the character of the onlookers as people who aren't calling Vanitas out on this shit.
Jul 16, 2021 4:28 PM

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Vanitas and Jeanne kiss scene was crazy yet I loved it. I dig those types of silly romance moments.

also Noe biting into Amelia was a very interesting way to get information of her memories, but at least it worked.

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Jul 16, 2021 4:34 PM

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Naygen said:

It unfortunately portrays the character of the onlookers as people who aren't calling Vanitas out on this shit.


That's why they call him a jerk; Dante did probably question the nature of his client before, but his job is to get paid.
And Vanitas kissed The Executioner, a feared monster, so the unfortunate thing is that there might be actually people protesting if she were a normal woman. Vanitas takes full advantage of this situation.
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Jul 16, 2021 4:49 PM
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This episode was almost perfectly made, the kiss, the comedy and still that freaking scary ass parade, next ep I’m waiting
Jul 16, 2021 5:50 PM

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The impression that I have gotten from these 3 episodes is that this is a decent anime that feels like it is lacking something. It has all the makings of a top debut, but I never find myself thinking about it after an episode airs or look forward to the next one.

As far as this episode is concerned, the Vanitas & Jeanne stuff was a bit much, I liked the horror aspect of the memory sequence, and traveling to the Vampire realm should be interesting.
Jul 16, 2021 5:54 PM

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God damn can we talk about the OST during Jeanne and Vanitus' moment please? HOLY SHIT IT WAS AMAZING

Great freaking episode AGAIN!

I ship the hell out of these two.

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Jul 16, 2021 6:07 PM

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Laplace_kun said:
Suddenly this adaptation seemed to be in a hurry. One who binged 2 and 3 episodes together would notice how the tables turned way too early, for skipping the fight scene. The astermite stuff can be explained later, as they already said it's name in the first episode.

Otherwise, fun episode that bounces between frivolous comedy and deep darkness like crazy. Vanitas' pro gamer move on Jeanne was of course, the best part; and Noé in the distance wondering wtf was going on was hilarious. The animation of Charlatan was great tho.
Sade's voice tho! We might be getting some real good voice acting the coming episodes.
If I remember things right from reading the manga, the fight didn't have much relevance in the manga either, it was just an introduction for Jeanne and Luca

SnowBrightt said:
I'm propably dumb, but why did Vanitas kiss Jeanne? Was some motive behind it?
As stated by the others, "a massive jerk".

EeveeRosa said:
Snow_dropindo99 said:
it is needed to build a romance between the two later, and that is the beginning.


You didn't understand, I said the kiss was bizarre because they didn't have any chemistry, they didn't know each other before, and it seemed like the guy forced it, it was almost like a harassment, because he didn't even ask, it was totally one-sided, even if she liked it, it was just a consequence.
Vanitas is just a huge jerk and from what I know, doesn't know when to realize personal boundaries, he is eccentric and can be very much straightforward and daring. Reason why he did it? ...Even I don't know to this day even if I read the manga, it really did come off as one-sided and Vanitas, as I said before, is a huge jerk majority of times. We aren't supposed to like him from the start, but sadly, I am one of those victims.
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Jul 16, 2021 6:20 PM
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I think the way of acting in vanitas is very stylish with its power joining the book is even better, Noé with a bride that despite that and only a childhood friend, with this very interesting episode ending the scenario is very cool.
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EeveeRosa said:
Snow_dropindo99 said:
it is needed to build a romance between the two later, and that is the beginning.


You didn't understand, I said the kiss was bizarre because they didn't have any chemistry, they didn't know each other before, and it seemed like the guy forced it, it was almost like a harassment, because he didn't even ask, it was totally one-sided, even if she liked it, it was just a consequence.
Yeah maybe he's just a jerk for kissing her without a clear motive, btw I'm also a Manga reader, but after the kiss somehow the relationship between the two became closer and built chemistry between the two, that's why I said it was just the beginning.
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TheOneOfSeven said:
Laplace_kun said:
Suddenly this adaptation seemed to be in a hurry. One who binged 2 and 3 episodes together would notice how the tables turned way too early, for skipping the fight scene. The astermite stuff can be explained later, as they already said it's name in the first episode.

Otherwise, fun episode that bounces between frivolous comedy and deep darkness like crazy. Vanitas' pro gamer move on Jeanne was of course, the best part; and Noé in the distance wondering wtf was going on was hilarious. The animation of Charlatan was great tho.
Sade's voice tho! We might be getting some real good voice acting the coming episodes.
If I remember things right from reading the manga, the fight didn't have much relevance in the manga either, it was just an introduction for Jeanne and Luca

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I'm propably dumb, but why did Vanitas kiss Jeanne? Was some motive behind it?
As stated by the others, "a massive jerk".

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You didn't understand, I said the kiss was bizarre because they didn't have any chemistry, they didn't know each other before, and it seemed like the guy forced it, it was almost like a harassment, because he didn't even ask, it was totally one-sided, even if she liked it, it was just a consequence.
Vanitas is just a huge jerk and from what I know, doesn't know when to realize personal boundaries, he is eccentric and can be very much straightforward and daring. Reason why he did it? ...Even I don't know to this day even if I read the manga, it really did come off as one-sided and Vanitas, as I said before, is a huge jerk majority of times. We aren't supposed to like him from the start, but sadly, I am one of those victims.


I say this in a way to not spoil the anime-onlys; Vanitas has a shitty personality but he’s not a horrible person. Of course, there was no reason to kiss her in that moment, he simply felt like he wanted to and to startle her. Saying the kiss is unnecessary because it’s random is like saying water is wet. The very act of kissing your enemy on a battlefield when they had every mean to kill you is ludicrous that is very much the answer there. It’s not really about chemistry in that sense and even then chemistry is not confided to just platonic and romantic relationships.
Jul 16, 2021 6:45 PM

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Damn....the kiss scene
Jul 16, 2021 6:58 PM

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So, we got more hint to Noe's background. Lol, him being dragged back is funny. The comedy in this episode was good. It was presented logically imo overall. I have feeling that the monster that killed the cured vampire is related to the vampire agency in Paris. Kind of predictable but whatever.

Vantias. Oh man. This dude knows what he's doing and how to flatter people. Extremely smart, to say the least. If the narrative, characters, and animation keeps up, it's easily the show of the season!




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Jul 16, 2021 7:28 PM
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About the kiss -- there's a part in the manga, soon after, in which Vanitas remarks that he "doesn't really care what happens to him right now."

It's one of those slower moments when things get dark for a moment, implying that his eccentric behaviors are part of some picture we don't know about yet.

It's not exactly clear why Vanitas kisses Jeanne, but one could assume that he is somewhat helpless and devalues himself.
Jul 16, 2021 8:49 PM

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I loved that kiss scene. It took Jeanne completely by surprise.
Jul 16, 2021 9:10 PM

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The true power of Vanitas, DISTRACTION.

From spitting out facts of his powers to buy time for the wolf vampire to come and attack Jeanne from behind; to using the weirdest confession in the entire anime history to hide the fact that he deployed some sort of magic on Jeanne. And how? HOW?! That kiss scene was the weirdest but hey I don't mind I liked it.

How nice. They got willingly isekai'd to an alternate Paris. Looking forward to seeing what this alternate world is about in the next episode.
Jul 16, 2021 11:26 PM
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That unnecessarily long forced kiss scene was really uncomfortable but she was all blushy-blushy afterwards so it's okay!
Jul 16, 2021 11:33 PM

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Altus looks so sick, I can’t wait to see more of it.

Noe is so fucking cute, I love him. That leash is so hot. Lol @ Kaito going Domi~~Domi~







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The impression that I have gotten from these 3 episodes is that this is a decent anime that feels like it is lacking something. It has all the makings of a top debut, but I never find myself thinking about it after an episode airs or look forward to the next one.

As far as this episode is concerned, the Vanitas & Jeanne stuff was a bit much, I liked the horror aspect of the memory sequence, and traveling to the Vampire realm should be interesting.
Well the starting is basically the intro of the whole world and characters and nothing else for the most part.(In other words nothing major happens) The second half of the first cour and the 2nd cour as a whole is where things get rolling and the main story gets revealed.(Especially the 2nd half which will cover the first major arc of the series). It has alot of mystery and plot twists as well so what its missing is plot progression right now(Tbh i didnt really liked the starting of the story that much myself)
As for the kiss scene, it shows various aspects of vanitas character..he is dark and he actuaally doesnt have geniune affection for jeanne, its just amusing to him not to mention it peaks his curiousity.
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Wonder if people will keep whining about Noé and Vanitas' sexual orientation after this episode.

Damn. Vanitas sure is a jerk, huh? Using Luca to extort Jeanne and while being at it, also taking the opportunity to force his way into her mouth in a clearly unwanted french kiss. Personally, not the best way to start building a potential romance between two characters but well.

Other than that, it was another nice episode. Noé's descent into Amelia's memories as well as the portrayal of Charlatan's parade were fantastic and easily, my favorite sequences in the episode.
By the way, Noé unnecessarily licking Amelia's arm before biting into it was quite hot.

Looking forward to seeing how Altus Paris is like!
Jul 17, 2021 12:07 AM

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This anime just keeps getting more and more interesting! I'm enjoying how unpredictable Vanitas is and what a roller coaster ride the plot is with it's quick changes between humor and the darker vibes. I can't wait for next ep to see what Altus is like and why Domi wants to separate Noe & Vanitas... Sus af.

Amelia's memory scene was f***ing terrifying! Charleton is hella creepy *shivers*. Noe has one truly amazing power, being able to read someone's memories like that

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my fucking god poor girl first she got beat up, the kid she's taking care of was threatened, then got kissed by the guy that beat her up😭😭 vanitas needs to get laid tf my guy fell in love after seeing a girl tearing up
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Honestly, as someone that loves this manga and Jun Mochizuki's works, I can't get behind this episode.

Alright, I will go through the positive first, because even though I didn't like how this episode was handled overall, I had one thing I really liked. That was the Charlatan Parade scene, it really did an excellent job in what it set out to do, which was disturb and creep you out, I loved it, the shots, the voice acting. SPOILER NAME was absolutely terrifying, and I loved that.

But this episode was totally rushed. Content was cut everywhere, in what I can only assume was an attempt to get to the Bal Masque arc faster, but rushing an already complicated and confusing story is going to do nothing but confuse those viewers even more. Jun Mochizuki's stories shine when viewers are able to take the time to ponder over and appreciate them. In my opinion this episode should have added more to the fight and details of the story, and ended with Dominique's introduction. Going to Altus should have happened in the next episode.

Now the elephant in the room, the Vanitas and Jeanne kissing scene. I understand the intention, Vanitas is a jerk, and thinks himself despicable and disgusting, so he acts in such a way that makes people despise and hate him. The kiss scene does a great job of showing the jerkish side of Vanitas, and does tell the viewers that though he's technically the protagonist and "hero" of the story, he isn't exactly a man of strong moral character. But I think the animation went too far. The scene lasted far too long, and the cuts to the other character's reactions seemed like a cheap attempt to try to lighten a frankly disgusting action. Yes, I know it's almost 1:1 with the manga, but you're also able to get through the scene much faster then the anime's version. When I was watching that scene, it gave me the same vibes as the infamous Asuna scenes from SAO (You know the ones). Not something I wanted to be feeling in an adaptation of one of my favorite stories. This is one scene that I felt should have been severely shortened, skipping Vanitas' creepy licking of Jeanne, skipping the reaction of the other characters, and instead going straight into his confession, immediately followed by Luca's retaliation. The point was made immediately when Vanitas kissed Jeanne without consent, everything else was totally unnecessary and disturbing.

Thankfully, there should be no other scenes like that coming, but I think I will opt to skip this episode in preference of reading the manga when I eventually rewatch.
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3 eps in and still boring :D
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I don’t understand why you guys should turn on full SJW mode, trying to fit the kissing scene into modern western puritanical moral norms. It is normal to try to kill a person, but kissing without a notarized written consent is the end of the world and the collapse of all bright ideals, heh?
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Please remember to spoiler tag things like this. I know you probably didn't think about it and just wanted to explain, but some anime-onlys might not want to know this.
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I don’t understand why you guys should turn on full SJW mode, trying to fit the kissing scene into modern western puritanical moral norms. It is normal to try to kill a person, but kissing without a notarized written consent is the end of the world and the collapse of all bright ideals, heh?


I don't think barely anyone has actually reacted the way you insinuate, so I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here.

Either way, I might be one of the people you refer to since I said that I found the whole scene creepy. And while I don't agree with the people who's said otherwise, we all have different interpretations at the end of the day.
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3 eps in and still boring :D
Three episodes in and still developing world-building :D
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Honestly, as someone that loves this manga and Jun Mochizuki's works, I can't get behind this episode.

Alright, I will go through the positive first, because even though I didn't like how this episode was handled overall, I had one thing I really liked. That was the Charlatan Parade scene, it really did an excellent job in what it set out to do, which was disturb and creep you out, I loved it, the shots, the voice acting. SPOILER NAME was absolutely terrifying, and I loved that.

But this episode was totally rushed. Content was cut everywhere, in what I can only assume was an attempt to get to the Bal Masque arc faster, but rushing an already complicated and confusing story is going to do nothing but confuse those viewers even more. Jun Mochizuki's stories shine when viewers are able to take the time to ponder over and appreciate them. In my opinion this episode should have added more to the fight and details of the story, and ended with Dominique's introduction. Going to Altus should have happened in the next episode.

Now the elephant in the room, the Vanitas and Jeanne kissing scene. I understand the intention, Vanitas is a jerk, and thinks himself despicable and disgusting, so he acts in such a way that makes people despise and hate him. The kiss scene does a great job of showing the jerkish side of Vanitas, and does tell the viewers that though he's technically the protagonist and "hero" of the story, he isn't exactly a man of strong moral character. But I think the animation went too far. The scene lasted far too long, and the cuts to the other character's reactions seemed like a cheap attempt to try to lighten a frankly disgusting action. Yes, I know it's almost 1:1 with the manga, but you're also able to get through the scene much faster then the anime's version. When I was watching that scene, it gave me the same vibes as the infamous Asuna scenes from SAO (You know the ones). Not something I wanted to be feeling in an adaptation of one of my favorite stories. This is one scene that I felt should have been severely shortened, skipping Vanitas' creepy licking of Jeanne, skipping the reaction of the other characters, and instead going straight into his confession, immediately followed by Luca's retaliation. The point was made immediately when Vanitas kissed Jeanne without consent, everything else was totally unnecessary and disturbing.

Thankfully, there should be no other scenes like that coming, but I think I will opt to skip this episode in preference of reading the manga when I eventually rewatch.
My thoughts exactly. I think instead of giving us a glimpse of vanitas book for 20 seconds and prolonging the kiss scene, they could have just added the fight scene.or the dialouge in which vanitas gives insight to his self hatered....As much as i love vanitas i myself felt disgusted with the scene ngl but at the same time i guess it was an important moment to give us insight to vanitas dark nature which i didnt felt until i read chapter 9 even though it was potrayed in the start. I do hope they dont cut to much ahead though considering these parts werent really important to the story and they are almost done with the introduction now but till now the adaptation has been great. Nothing major is skipped.
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nice kissing scene! at least not torrid kiss LOLZ!
4/5.


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Please remember to spoiler tag things like this. I know you probably didn't think about it and just wanted to explain, but some anime-onlys might not want to know this.
Thanks for pointing out, I have added the tag
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3 eps in and still boring :D
3 episodes of just introductions and no story progression and still recieving a positive reception...yeah..
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Another solid episode.

Artistic direction continues to be top quality; however, it's becoming more obvious that the overall direction is definitely geared towards female audiences (which is probably the more profitable way of directing this show).

I've enjoyed this so far, but not sure if I will be able to watch 2 cours of this. But I'm still onboard as of right now.
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Another solid episode.

Artistic direction continues to be top quality; however, it's becoming more obvious that the overall direction is definitely geared towards female audiences (which is probably the more profitable way of directing this show).

I've enjoyed this so far, but not sure if I will be able to watch 2 cours of this. But I'm still onboard as of right now.
Well the 2nd cour adapts the best arc of the manga and the first arc just introduces the characters and the world and nothing else.. So yeah I would urge u to stick around till then.(Its a show that can be enjoyoed by both genders to its full extent by the way, its dark complex and all the characters have quite a number of traits)
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That kiss... it was beautiful. I've read a little bit ahead in the manga a few days ago, that kiss had me shook when I read it lmao. Can't blame Vanitas though, Jeanne is top tier, but Vanitas is most certainly a jerk. A madlad and a jerk and also a very charismatic interesting individual.

Great episode! They cut out some not really important scenes, but I wish they would slow down a little. Episodes 1 and 2 were great pacing wise, but this episode definitely feels a little fast, I guess they wanted to end it on a higher note. Altus Paris do be looking sexy as fuck though.

We also finally meet Domi! She's great. The voice acting this episode was also really good, really looking forward to the next episode.
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Jeane reaction after being kissed by Vanitas is really cute and Domi is here, I thought she gonna appeared on the next ep but I'm really glad to see her more sooner
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234Mannan said:
Blue_Maroon said:
The impression that I have gotten from these 3 episodes is that this is a decent anime that feels like it is lacking something. It has all the makings of a top debut, but I never find myself thinking about it after an episode airs or look forward to the next one.

As far as this episode is concerned, the Vanitas & Jeanne stuff was a bit much, I liked the horror aspect of the memory sequence, and traveling to the Vampire realm should be interesting.
Well the starting is basically the intro of the whole world and characters and nothing else for the most part.(In other words nothing major happens) The second half of the first cour and the 2nd cour as a whole is where things get rolling and the main story gets revealed.(Especially the 2nd half which will cover the first major arc of the series). It has alot of mystery and plot twists as well so what its missing is plot progression right now(Tbh i didnt really liked the starting of the story that much myself)
As for the kiss scene, it shows various aspects of vanitas character..he is dark and he actuaally doesnt have geniune affection for jeanne, its just amusing to him not to mention it peaks his curiousity.

I mean, I picked up on most of that already. The thing is, other anime follow the formula of introducing the world & characters before diving into the main story, but I was still able to get invested.

It probably will get better. However, it just isn’t clicking for me right now. Don’t worry, it isn’t bad enough for me to drop so I will at least finish the first cour.
Jul 17, 2021 8:40 AM

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That kiss, that kiss, that kiss
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234Mannan said:
uenoyama said:
3 eps in and still boring :D
3 episodes of just introductions and no story progression and still recieving a positive reception...yeah..
Why do you care so much about plot progression? It is so much better like this.
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Cathen99 said:
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I don’t understand why you guys should turn on full SJW mode, trying to fit the kissing scene into modern western puritanical moral norms. It is normal to try to kill a person, but kissing without a notarized written consent is the end of the world and the collapse of all bright ideals, heh?


I don't think barely anyone has actually reacted the way you insinuate, so I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here.

Either way, I might be one of the people you refer to since I said that I found the whole scene creepy. And while I don't agree with the people who's said otherwise, we all have different interpretations at the end of the day.
That kiss was still hot tho no matter how you look at it
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Blue_Maroon said:
234Mannan said:
Well the starting is basically the intro of the whole world and characters and nothing else for the most part.(In other words nothing major happens) The second half of the first cour and the 2nd cour as a whole is where things get rolling and the main story gets revealed.(Especially the 2nd half which will cover the first major arc of the series). It has alot of mystery and plot twists as well so what its missing is plot progression right now(Tbh i didnt really liked the starting of the story that much myself)
As for the kiss scene, it shows various aspects of vanitas character..he is dark and he actuaally doesnt have geniune affection for jeanne, its just amusing to him not to mention it peaks his curiousity.

I mean, I picked up on most of that already. The thing is, other anime follow the formula of introducing the world & characters before diving into the main story, but I was still able to get invested.

It probably will get better. However, it just isn’t clicking for me right now. Don’t worry, it isn’t bad enough for me to drop so I will at least finish the first cour.
I am really glad to hear that. The thing is jun works have a weak premise for the mot part but thats always intentional considering she likes fooling her readers and viewers alot. though most people end up dopping her series though... Glad that u will be sticking around though
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Lusitania said:
234Mannan said:
3 episodes of just introductions and no story progression and still recieving a positive reception...yeah..
Why do you care so much about plot progression? It is so much better like this.
I am actually Praising it. I wasnt expecting a good reception in the start considering the main story will begin after the next episode.
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