The Case Study of Vanitas
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234Mannan said: it is what it is famGay LOOOOL its not bro and u are judging it by the first 4 chapters..I cant believe how audacious you are |
Thorf said: Imagine thinking your opinion is actaully legit against canon resorces. And It still doesnt change the fact that you are judging the stroy without even touching the surface...Its a fact that its not a BL and as u said it is what it is and atleast gain enough knowledge about the story before even judging it LOL234Mannan said: it is what it is famGay LOOOOL its not bro and u are judging it by the first 4 chapters..I cant believe how audacious you are |
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LeonhartAugust said: Pandora hearts ending was basically perfect.Thorf said: Skipping this because pandora hearts was so bad it's one of the only manga I ever dropped. Also don't like gay bait. It has a much better ending than that of AoT XD |
234MannanJul 3, 2021 4:10 AM
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234Mannan said: Imagine thinking your opinion is actaully legit against canon resorces. And It still doesnt change the fact that you are judging the stroy without even touching the surface...Its a fact that its not a BL and as u said it is what it is and atleast gain enough knowledge about the story before even judging it LOL Look, he's clearly trying to get some attention here. And if he's serious, he really got some issues and is insecure to the point that he is finding gay everywhere. Unless you are his personal psychiatrist, just ignore him and move on. This whole thread is painful... |
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Laplace_kun said: Well You are right thanks for getting me back to my senses.234Mannan said: Imagine thinking your opinion is actaully legit against canon resorces. And It still doesnt change the fact that you are judging the stroy without even touching the surface...Its a fact that its not a BL and as u said it is what it is and atleast gain enough knowledge about the story before even judging it LOL Look, he's clearly trying to get some attention here. And if he's serious, he really got some issues and is insecure to the point that he is finding gay everywhere. Unless you are his personal psychiatrist, just ignore him and move on. This whole thread is painful... |
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Kazzann said: Varris said: Ah makes sense, he didn’t do Noragami btw, he did Monogatari series (other than Bake) and that had tons of this type of comedy too That was 95% the studio unfortunately, the director did Noragami too I believe Bones specializes in transitions to chibi humor in the middle of more serious plot (e.g. FMAB, Bungou Stray Dogs), but it'd be inaccurate to say that chibis weren't in the original manga. In fact, I suspect these moments contribute heavily to their decisions with voice actors. Hanae Natsuki, for instance, doesn't do these dramatic ikemen characters often, and you could say the same for Inase Minori's character, but they do have relatively stronger track records with "goofy" characters. I personally like them (especially because as a manga reader I can make the claim that they're important to the characterization), but I concede they are not exactly the mode of humor particularly in fashion right now. |
Germs_N_SpicesJul 3, 2021 4:25 AM
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| Nice art style and the story is interesting |
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234Mannan said: Its a minor spoiler(Like really minor infact) and even then it wasnt really explained and the readers were expected to interpret it Hmm, I just assumed he had super strength and invulnerability or something so hitting concrete from that fall didn't hurt him and thus he shielded Vanitas. But your explanation makes it so much more interesting! It sounds like in the lore of this story, vampires aren't merely just stronger and faster than humans (as is usually the case), but have other abilities too. I must confess, though, I don't understand what's meant by "world formula" and "the very essence of their world". But I understand enough -- Noé essentially has abilities related to geokinesis and gravity manipulation. That's pretty cool. :D |
| Great start! I genuinely liked the steampunk Paris setting. The ost and animation were amazing too. I don't really have any good experience with vampire anime but this one is interesting. I might end up reading the manga while waiting for the next episode (^^) |
| Can I just say I am goddamn impressed? The cast, the art, the choreography, the studio behind this (Bones) and freaking Yuki Kajiura as the composer??? Man, I already read the manga, but this is just amazing, can't wait to see of the anime ~ |
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Thorf said: But...both of Vanitas and Noé have canon female love interests -_- Yes, sometimes, it can come off as "fanservice" for the female cast, but Vanitas no Carte ain't yaoi and never will be. The only way for this to be yaoi are majority of the shippers of Vanitas and Noé, in the canon story? No.234Mannan said: it is what it is famGay LOOOOL its not bro and u are judging it by the first 4 chapters..I cant believe how audacious you are |
TheOneOfSevenJul 3, 2021 7:04 AM
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Devil-Flamingo said: Well the world formula will be explained in huge detail in the later episodes. (Its basically the part of the mechanics and power system and world building as a whole)234Mannan said: Its a minor spoiler(Like really minor infact) and even then it wasnt really explained and the readers were expected to interpret it Hmm, I just assumed he had super strength and invulnerability or something so hitting concrete from that fall didn't hurt him and thus he shielded Vanitas. But your explanation makes it so much more interesting! It sounds like in the lore of this story, vampires aren't merely just stronger and faster than humans (as is usually the case), but have other abilities too. I must confess, though, I don't understand what's meant by "world formula" and "the very essence of their world". But I understand enough -- Noé essentially has abilities related to geokinesis and gravity manipulation. That's pretty cool. :D |
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| The glorious OST by Kajiura Yuki alone would make this show great...but Vampires again...hmmmm 5/5. |
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Devil-Flamingo said: I would also like to add that vanitas world itself is pretty unique as a whole with a completely different/unique power system and its actually pretty complex but not as much as PH because unlike PH it can be followed eaily in comparison. In anycase its gonna be a blast once the second cour comes234Mannan said: Its a minor spoiler(Like really minor infact) and even then it wasnt really explained and the readers were expected to interpret it Hmm, I just assumed he had super strength and invulnerability or something so hitting concrete from that fall didn't hurt him and thus he shielded Vanitas. But your explanation makes it so much more interesting! It sounds like in the lore of this story, vampires aren't merely just stronger and faster than humans (as is usually the case), but have other abilities too. I must confess, though, I don't understand what's meant by "world formula" and "the very essence of their world". But I understand enough -- Noé essentially has abilities related to geokinesis and gravity manipulation. That's pretty cool. :D |
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234Mannan said: Well the world formula will be explained in huge detail in the later episodes. (Its basically the part of the mechanics and power system and world building as a whole) Ah, alright. Thanks for telling me. I hope I didn't make it sound like you explained it badly! I just found the idea somewhat puzzling and confusing. I'm new to the show and don't know anything about the world of Vanitas but I look forward to learning more as the animé progresses. I would also like to add that vanitas world itself is pretty unique as a whole with a completely different/unique power system and its actually pretty complex but not as much as PH because unlike PH it can be followed eaily in comparison. In anycase its gonna be a blast once the second cour comes. Oooh, that's neat! I honestly don't remember much of PH other than the characters, so I think I'll have to watch it all over again, ha... |
Devil-FlamingoJul 3, 2021 7:38 AM
| I forgot how good Yuki Kajura was |
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| Seems promising! i've been itching for a good vampire story. Also some scenes gave me slight madoka vibes? |
| Okay this is pretty hype and it actually wasn't on my radar the first time looking through this current season. Glad I picked it up. The characters seems interesting, I love the setting as well. From what I can recall, I haven't truly seen many shows that are set outside of Japan or a fantasy world. So to see that France is where it's set for now is a nice surprise. Yuki Kaijura at it again with the soundtrack, thing you just love to hear! Whenever it's her soudntrack, it just strikes you and it's instantly recognizable. Already know we're in for a treat on the sound department. Promising start and since a S2 is already in the database as well, I will for sure stick around with Vanitas. |
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Devil-Flamingo said: 234Mannan said: Well the world formula will be explained in huge detail in the later episodes. (Its basically the part of the mechanics and power system and world building as a whole) Ah, alright. Thanks for telling me. I hope I didn't make it sound like you explained it badly! I just found the idea somewhat puzzling and confusing. I'm new to the show and don't know anything about the world of Vanitas but I look forward to learning more as the animé progresses. I would also like to add that vanitas world itself is pretty unique as a whole with a completely different/unique power system and its actually pretty complex but not as much as PH because unlike PH it can be followed eaily in comparison. In anycase its gonna be a blast once the second cour comes. Oooh, that's neat! I honestly don't remember much of PH other than the characters, so I think I'll have to watch it all over again, ha... Well I actaually didnt explain the world formula just stated it(Since its a big spoiler), so its natural that u will be confused :)(They will reveal this in episode 4 or 5 i think) AND Instead of watching pandora hearts, Read the manga..Seriously anime didnt did any justice to the manga and went with a anime original at some parts. I seriously urge you to read it from the start because its just perfect and as a huge fan of PH i personally hate the anime series apart from the music. Considering how the story fools You at such a high level. And how the characters are handeled(Which both got ruined in the anime as well) |
234MannanJul 3, 2021 8:12 AM
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| Good really good start, I think I'm gonna like this show |
RedChromeJul 3, 2021 8:19 AM
| I think the big problems with this episode can be summed up by the conflict/problem being resolved just past halfway into the episode. So how would they spend the remaining third of the episode? Milking the hell out of the sparklies that are magical boy problem solving glow for a few minutes, and then a few more minutes of exposition and general padding. This was on top of it beginning with your more typical just straight up power point presentation exposition explaining the setting, because organic storytelling is haaaaaard. It's both an incredibly generic opening episode as well as an extremely padded and slow one, without any surprises or hooks. There are vampires. There's good vampires. Here's a few tidbits of specific lore regarding them. |
| looks promising ..... |
RayReynolds said: I think the big problems with this episode can be summed up by the conflict/problem being resolved just past halfway into the episode. So how would they spend the remaining third of the episode? Milking the hell out of the sparklies that are magical boy problem solving glow for a few minutes, and then a few more minutes of exposition and general padding. This was on top of it beginning with your more typical just straight up power point presentation exposition explaining the setting, because organic storytelling is haaaaaard. It's both an incredibly generic opening episode as well as an extremely padded and slow one, without any surprises or hooks. There are vampires. There's good vampires. Here's a few tidbits of specific lore regarding them. I disagree fundamentally with the notion that something has to be "going on" throughout the episode. If that's the case, slice of life and character-driven drama wouldn't have existed as a genre. Dialogues play an equally important role in fleshing out characters in addition to worldbuilding, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with dedicating a good half of an episode to doing so as long as it's done in a way that is interesting— which is in turn subjective and wholly dependent on the general reception of this episode. Maybe you didn't expect it to be a dialogue-heavy show, but there's nothing stopping this series from embracing heavy dialogues as a narrative device. I think it's rather disingenuous to dismiss meticulous visual direction as "padding" simply because it doesn't have the physical conflict to go with. It's fairly evident that they hired a Monogatari director for good reason. |
Germs_N_SpicesJul 3, 2021 11:40 AM
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| I thought -tas words were supposed to be feminine. |
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Theo1899 said: I thought -tas words were supposed to be feminine. Indeed, Latin vānitās is grammatically feminine. The modern Romance languages' equivalents of this word are all feminine as well. As to why there's a male vampire called Vanitas, well, it's possible the series creator doesn't know -tas is a feminine ending. And after all, Japanese lacks grammatical gender; the concept is not self-evident. I will say, though, speakers of Romance languages (who haven't studied Latin in most cases) don't necessarily perceive "-tas" as feminine. Some might, some might not. Really, I didn't think anything of it until I saw your comment. Maybe it's because Latin didn't have articles (vānitās), whereas Italian and Spanish do (la vanità, la vanidad) so it's obvious even if the word doesn't end in -a, as is the case for this particular group of nouns. Anyway, the series author probably just liked the word and chose it as a name. :D |
Devil-FlamingoJul 3, 2021 1:46 PM
| Wow, this looked good. Looks like studio Bones puts more love into anything but MHA. |
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Devil-Flamingo said: Anyway, the series author probably just liked the word and chose it as a name. :D Actually, Vanitas's name is probably part of the "memento mori" theme of the character. Just like his hourglass earring. |
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| Decent start, there's not a lot of good vampire stories so hopefully this one could be one of the better ones out there. One of the main things that's already pulling me into the story is uncovering the mystery of Vanitas's character, since apparently the original Vampire of the Blue Moon gave him his name and his book even though he's only human. Not sure how to feel about the comedy though; the on-and-off timing of it is kind of throwing me off. Don't think I had this kind of problem with Pandora Hearts, but nevertheless I have faith in the work of this author and the studio. And Yuki Kajiura's music is great as always. Looking forward to the next episode! |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| Aside from the terrible chibi scenes, this was nice. The art and animation is definitely up there as some of the best this year. |
| the animation looks so pretty and amazing!! interesting plot as well, although I get a little bit confused.. I thought the book was meant to be used as a tool to demolish all vampires.. but it's used to cure/heal vampire instead??! can't wait for episode 2!! anddd I LOVE the ed song!! banger. |
Keyaru6 said: Clas1ck said: Well, well, I thought this vampire stuff wasn't going to convince me, but I really liked it 0.0 The animation is pretty good and I like the humor I have a lot of faith in this anime, and looking at the others of this season, maybe this will be one of the best do you REALLY like this humor???? Do you really like Redo of Healer???!!! 😂 |
| All I can say is the animation is great and the characters are interesting. |
| Oppai check! 111 cm: Hancock 110 cm: Zoro 100 cm: Robin |
| I ship the two main characters :blush: |
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| I ship the two main characters :blush: |
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NazunaChan said: Unfortunately both MCs have legit female love interests, but you can still ship them eventhough it's impossible to become canon.I ship the two main characters :blush: |
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