| It was amnesia in the beginning and then they took some liberties with how it developed But People in real life don't always act logical either, I'm usually a pretty nice person but sometimes I'm a total dick or I say something that I don't mean, and then I just let the situation stay because it can be awkward to correct it. Then change it into a drama and you kind of have to expect the situation |
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| i dont get the "at the expense of characterization." part of the meryam webster definition what characterization do we lose with exagerated emotion? |
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| Melodrama has always been one of my favorite genres, especially when it comes to representing a certain story/series. But, I were thinking that not some or (probably) all of anime shows are making any common senses despite how they're being made in the first place. In this case, it depends on the story/series, if "they" wanted to make it as a melodrama series, then "they" will just ignore the common sense and focus on the melodrama. Also, common sense is more predictable when a certain story/series revolves around a daily life of a certain person because it's mostly very close to reality. And, that's why, in order to attract people's attention, a certain story/series must go with the "acceptable" flows. In anime series/shows, it doesn't matter if you wanted them to focus more either on the melodrama or common sense because even if you did care about it, things just go the way they want. Also, about this "Golden Time" series thing, I understand why you're confused of the series' rating. I'll just tell you that, because it has a nice way of storytelling, to be honest. Although the characters appeared to be somewhat "not focusing on the common sense and more to the drama/melodrama" but still, the story and relationship of each of the characters are what that made up for the series itself. You can also do some researches if you want to know why this anime series got such a high rating on MAL. And, you must not forget that people mostly rated this series the way they wanted it to be. |
CylicoFeb 26, 2018 4:49 AM
| I am a BIG fans of melodrama and I am PROUD of it. Mainly because I like the melody And Golden Time is one of my fav. And our opinion definitely opposite. For Steins;Gate.. I hate time travel anime. Haruhi is the only exception. Anyway, emotion is not always goes with "logic". Comparing Golden Time that emphasize on emotion and Steins;Gate where it focus on plot is kinda unfair my friend. |
EsperDec 27, 2016 9:34 PM
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| Melodrama is not a bad thing by itself. Sometimes, people ARE melodramatic--can you really fault a series for having melodrama if being melodramatic is part of a main character's personality? The answer is "no," kids. That's called consistency. |
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| I agree with your Golden Time example. But for me it's not Melodrama VS Logic/Common Sense, but rather Melodrama VS Good Storytelling. For example, Plastic Memories. The MC gets coupled with a girl, that will die in 3 months. Besides, that this makes little sense, it creates cheap drama. Similar to Your Lie In April. |
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| I have to admit, I'm very likely to fall into the melodrama plot device. I don't know why particularly, but often such shows encompasses similar elements/events to my own life and I empathise with the character. That said, Golden Time didn't trigger that within me, might be the obsessive nature of the main heroine. |
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| I like logic more but if the drama done right I usually ended up with liking it. |
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| Pitting melodrama against 'common sense' is kind of missing the point. Melodrama exists so a story can move more dynamically, stylistically and, probably most importantly, timely, through all of the themes and motives it's trying exhibit. It asks the viewer to disregard disbelief. Why do people keep complaining that media isn't real life? Also it seems like people only have objections when they can't buy into what those shows are selling. That's the underlying issue. |
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| I always felt it depended on how much you could suspend your disbelief when it came to melodrama and how much the logic is actually shown/explored |
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| First of all, you can't compare Steins;Gate to a drama series. They aren't even in the same category. Second of all, Steins;Gate doesn't have much logic behind it - realistically speaking. (But that's beside the point..) To get to what you were saying: Golden Time has flaws, and you're right. To find a perfect balance, it's quite simple. All you have to do is explain the character's thoughts/reasoning behind said action. A perfect example of this is My Teenage Romantic Comedy. It's also my favorite drama, hint hint. Check it out if you haven't xD |
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| I don't think logic is what really counts in liking a melodrama or not. I would say that engagement and immersion are what really counts. Melodrama wants to cause a big emotional reaction but if you don't care about the characters at all then even the most dramatic thing might not touch you. Usually the characters have to be believable at first in order to get attached to them then when the melodrama happens I will feel involved. Steins:Gate is not that logical, sending messages in the past with a microwave sounds rather nonsensical to me. Also Okabe being the only one to transfer consciousness across the time lines or maintain the memory of other time lines is pretty much like being the chosen ones in fighting shounen, not logical but it is excused with a convenient explanation. However it is the first half of slice of life that creates bounds between the characters and the viewers as a build-up to allow more engaging melodrama later on. Jojo's first episode is pretty much what makes Dio such a great villain to me. It offers backstory, characterization and makes him believable through those realistic evil acts. Once I got involved thanks to that I was very prone into accepting the series logic despite how nonsense it could seem if you take a step away and look at it from the outside. |
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| this reminds me, i watched this show but havent updated it in my list. Meow stupid. btw did any one else think kaga koko was just a flimsy vapid bitch who changed lovers without much ......... well she stalked and followed mitsuo to his college, but at the drop of a hat [hair color actually she switched to banri...... |
KuroudoAkabane said: Nope, I think that was the right decision. Picking up a nice guy that "wish for you" is better than chasing "unrequited" love~btw did any one else think kaga koko was just a flimsy vapid bitch who changed lovers without much ......... well she stalked and followed mitsuo to his college, but at the drop of a hat [hair color actually she switched to banri...... |
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Esper said: but the real banri [that ghost apparition of his actual memories] wanted to get back with rindaKuroudoAkabane said: Nope, I think that was the right decision. Picking up a nice guy that "wish for you" is better than chasing "unrequited" love~btw did any one else think kaga koko was just a flimsy vapid bitch who changed lovers without much ......... well she stalked and followed mitsuo to his college, but at the drop of a hat [hair color actually she switched to banri...... |
KuroudoAkabane said: That is the whole point of the story my friend. He move on.. Leave the past and start a new journey.Esper said: but the real banri [that ghost apparition of his actual memories] wanted to get back with rindaNope, I think that was the right decision. Picking up a nice guy that "wish for you" is better than chasing "unrequited" love~ |
EsperDec 29, 2016 8:35 PM
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| I find that things that try to speak to the mind as opposed to the heart strike me as unnecessarily uppity and up their own ass more often than I find the opposite unnecessarily cheesy or sappy, so I'll choose melodrama over logic. Which, that wording totally doesn't strike me as being a loaded question at all, I should add. Gimme something that tries make me feel a sense of caring and investment in ways other than just trying to play up on people with self-flattering standards that are often only trying to compensate for a sense of intellectual insecurity. Generally a better viewing experience for me to have something try to appeal to me on an emotional level than try to be thought-provoking and deep, I've found. |
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| I enjoy it a lot when a work is solid at depicting things I actually know about. Sure, a work can kick reason to the curb and rely purely on rules of cool, drama or whatever. I've seen a lot of works like this, and even enjoyed some of them. But they cannot appeal to me in the same way that works which are easy on suspension of disbelief can. Note that just because a work's logic is solid, doesn't mean it's boring. Just look at Mouretsu Uchuu Kaizoku. Why a bunch of cosplaying schoolgirls can rob a ship? Because they can turn off oxygen, that's why. And they've got a nice agreement with the shipping company, because tourists like being robbed by pirates. Adventure! |
| Melodrama is basically whatever drama people don't like. |
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| It just means that it resonated with them. Simple as that. To those whom those melodrama spoke to them, of course, your own concern doesn't really matter. We have different experiences in our life and have various differentiating suspension of disbelief, I guess. Pretty sure Golden Time resonated with at least people who have experienced a relationship of some kind. Your gripes with it, even if they do acknowledge it, doesn't really matter. |
| It depends on how much thought and emotional investment you want to put into the setup and execution of the drama/melodrama. The more thought and less emotional investment you put into it, the more melodramatic things will appear. On the other hand, the more emotional investment and less thought you put into it, the more emotional and powerful a series will appear. |
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