| Yea, It's ok. 7 means "good" so you think most anime is good. |
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keimaconquesta said: How is it abnormal if you go to the top 3000 and the scores are still over 7?I've already watched 200+ anime, and when I score them I try it to be as positive as possible. Now, my mean score is 7+, and I think it's a pretty abnormal mean score here in MAL... Is it okay if I keep up with this attitude or do I need to be stricter? |
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Lordwen said: The average rating on MAL is 6.9, which some may see as a problem, but it's part of human psychology to assume that anything you are more familiar with must be better than average. Around 80% of people believe that they are above average when statistically only 50% of people can possibly be above average by definition. Only around 600 anime or so are rated below 5.5 or "true average" while there are over 7000 anime that are in the leaderboard. This means that people are saying that ~90% of anime are "above average", which doesn't make too much sense, but people assume that what they chose to watch is better than the average anime. People do the same thing with cars because they don't want to feel like they wasted their money on a below-average car. Interestingly enough even users like spacecowboy and DateYutaka who have seen a high percentage of the anime on MAL still have mean scores far higher than 5.5 which begs the question of what "average" is.keimaconquesta said: How is it abnormal if you go to the top 3000 and the scores are still over 7?I've already watched 200+ anime, and when I score them I try it to be as positive as possible. Now, my mean score is 7+, and I think it's a pretty abnormal mean score here in MAL... Is it okay if I keep up with this attitude or do I need to be stricter? |
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| Do you rate anime to help yourself figure out what you like, or do you do it for attention seeking purposes? Your answer to this question should answer your OP question. |
| @zombie_pegasus You really didn't "complete" 500 anime, really. From those, only 173 are TV series. 55 of them are OVAs, being most of them 1 episode long. 46 are movies (OK). 82 of them are specials, which fall in the same category of the OVAs for that matter, since they're mostly one episode long as well. 56 are ONAs. The other 88 fall into "music" category. Your mean score is 4.8, which is -1,89 than the global average for these shows. I think, though, since you have many OVAs, specials and ONAs there, the better approach would be using the average of TV series, which for your case is -0,9 compared to the global mean score. So, I don't think your averages are much lower at all compared to MAL's users, especially because most of the stuff you scored are 1 episode material, that weight way more than the stuff you watched most of the time (TV shows, only a few OVAs and ONAs that go further than being 1 episode long and the movies). For instance, my mean score is -0,72 lower than global average and I almost only have TV series in my list. So I have "completed" 167 animes, which would be way less than you, but on the other hand I average 20 days more watching them than you. So yea, your score, albeit may seem "low", really isn't. It's actually really close to mine, the difference being that I have watched more TV shows people rate higher while you watched shows that have naturally a lower average global score (7.2 x 8,2). When we take the difference between our scores and the global mean, though, we see that they're in reality separated by only .2. So yea, looking from this perspective I think your score is not low at all like you made it out to be. |
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| I used to do the same thing but when you get down to it, anime is an industry, meaning they will produce the more popular type of anime. Therefore, differentiating the good anime from the bad anime could potentially have an impact on what you will watch in the future. |
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| @Wintovisky I've completed 134 full length TV series (100 minutes+, not sure if that sounds reasonable) and my mean score for them is around 6.3 or 0.85 below the global mean. Most of the "movies" I've seen are short films (<40 minutes) so that category is pretty much negligible. I think it seems fair to rate longer anime higher mostly because I avoid or drop long anime that I don't like. There are some anime like Watamote and Glasslip that are fairly long but I really didn't like so I gave low scores to. The lowest score I've given to a three or four cour anime is 7. |
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| @zombie_pegasus I just said that to show your mean score is not that distant from the global mean score for those shows, taking into account the shows that "should count". Well, since I don't watch many OVAs (from the ones I did half of them you could count as TV series) and specials I really can't talk about the relation between length and score. I rate purely based on enjoyment, it doesn't matter if the show was long or not. But chances are if you completed a long show (especially 24+ episodes) what you watched was enough to keep you entertained and give it something like at least a 4 or 5 instead of 1 of 2, that would be more common on short stuff or dropped shows. OT: I don't get this "being considerate" with the ratings you give. I rate purely based on enjoyment, I think. Well, I usually avoid giving 4s or bellow to completed shows cause they weren't "terrible" only "bad/really bad", I mean, even being trash they made me comeback everytime to suffer lol xD |
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| Well, thanks for illustrating my comment. I'm surprised even average is a hard concept to grasp. It should be as easy as what to expect from a given show you don't know anything about. And surprisingly enough if you had to do that with a random anime entry, you'd probably get something under your average since the chances it's out of your comfort zone might get high. I pretty much know what a 5 means for me, but personal lists will always end up functioning a bit like a tier-system, and so the more you watch theorically the lower some scores, simply because they stretch. Date has indeed an interesting way to rate based on his own perception of shows being memorable or not for the industry, but I guess that's just an odd approach. That, or after rating that many thousand entries he just stopped caring. |
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| It's fine to be considerate since that is how you feel about a show then I don't really mind. |
| "Once something has been written, it cannot be changed no matter how much you want to forget about it." -some random cheezy quote I came up with |
| Reading most of these comment shows me that there is stll hope on mal. |
kamisama751 said: thank youGaryMuffuginOak said: It's not like the animators work for hours on end and are paid little to nothing anyways. Not like the voice actors really have to say any lines. Not like the director has to direct anything. If you think it's easy, you should try it yourself. Face it, you just dislike harems, but your 9/10 SAO score begs the differ... The quality of a show is output pure. You can emphathize with him but that's all. Even if he makes Boku no Pico while putting the most effort in this world in it, it is still garbage. I didnt know someone actually had to explain a thing like that to someone else |
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| Just fuckin' rate it based on how much fun you had watching it, dagnabbit. That's all that matters in the end. |
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| It's not like animators wages depend on your ratings, right? Your ratings are your business and if anyone criticises you for them then he has a problem, not you. But at the same time I believe MAL (and most sites with user ratings) is suffering form inflated ratings, forcing everyone to adjust to them when browsing anime. I mean, I use 5 as starting point when rating, but when I'm looking for a new thing to watch, I have to consider anything below 7-7,5 as questionable (not that low score makes me skip it ofc). Another thing is dropping. After all why watch something that is "bad"? If I finished all my dropped, on-hold anime, and ones that I didn't even add to my list after trying them, I guess my average rating would drop below 5 lol |
| Rating is so arbitrary anyway, so it matters not how you do it. Everyone has different ways of doing it anyway. Screw anyone who's gonna use your ratings in an argument against you or as some sort of insult. |
| I don't really care what other people think of my mean score lol Mine is a 7.71 and I'm fine with that. I think mine is probably a little on the high side though because my list is small. I don't watch anime that are often considered "bad" and have really low ratings. Instead, my list is filled with a lot of classics like FMAB, Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass, etc. so obviously I'm going to be giving a lot of high ratings. Also I'm in love with the Monogatari series |
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| I mean, it's recommended in the sense that, it might help you appreciate the good aspects about something more, and it lets you get more out of everything. Life would be a hell of a lot happier if I could genuinely like everything, or just like everything a little more, believe me In terms of the ratings, who really gives a fuck - It's just a number, a personal number at that, it doesn't mean anything. You give your numbers away however you want. I guess some people feel somewhat pressured by the fact that people might think they're too harsh or too soft, the fact that these days anything below a 7 out of 10/3.5 out of 5 is considered atrocious, and it doesn't help that MAL has to label each rating (IMO, every site that lets you rate things should be like this site - You can put the labels for each rating yourself, so every rating system is completely unique), but really, I know it's easier said than done but you just gotta learn to live with that. Just do your thing and fuck them other niggas, 'namsayin'? I personally don't rate simply because I don't believe you can properly represent someone's opinion thru a number and my obsession for correct cataloguing makes me have a headache whenever I start thinking about what should I rate something compared to other things I've rated, not because of what other people might think of my rating system. |
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| I just judge a show based on enjoyment ... not going to go in depth for every little thing. My mean score is 7.61 apparently and I'm fine with it, ... I can usually tell if I'll enjoy a show before watching it, just reading synopsis, looking at art style etc. |
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| Score whatever you feel like lol My average is 8, and I don't care about MAL's average score |
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| Sure. Rate however you want. I'm sure the Anime Uber Elitist Club won't be too happy but their opinions don't matter. |
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| Did I like it? 8-10 Did I hate it? 1-2 My rating system, if I don't like something about an anime or I find something pretty off-putting then I'm not going to watch it, simple enough. |
| If you want to rate on enjoyment, "objectivity", rate everything a 10, not rate, do it! There isn't any rule on MAL that makes you rate one way. |
| but what if i rate only 1,2,3 heh im ruining the overall score >:I |
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| Yes or No, whatever you pick. Not enough shitposts. I'm outta here! :/ |
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| As longest you used the full-scale rating then you're good. -Mastergold |
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Wensbane said: If you've watched more than 200 anime your mean score should naturally end up close to 5.5. If it's a lot higher or a lot lower than 5.5 there is a very strong possibility (not certainty) that you're doing something wrong. Usually it's not using the rating scale properly. Remember that 5 means average, but since you can't vote 0 on MAL -- making 5.5 the middle ground, not 5 -- most of your scores should be either 5 or 6. MAL Graph shows that you give way too many 8s. Like, one third of stuff you've watched are 8s. Even if you only watch stuff that you're guaranteed to love, with hundreds of anime under your belt, there's just no way that can be right. Okay, I'll lower my rating of NGE from a 7 to a 3 to lower my mean score :^) just kidding, just kidding, pls don't kill me bby Anyway I do agree that rating anything you liked slightly a 10 and using 5 to denote that something outright sux is kinda dumb, because then where do you put the stuff that you well and truly enjoyed? It all sort of gets mixed together and you won't be able to find your own preferences. |
| I can't find a reason why it shouldn't be okay, rate however you want to rate |
| Bruh have you seen my mean score? Your fine, quit being self conscious of yourself about something so stupid. |
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keimaconquesta said: I've already watched 200+ anime, and when I score them I try it to be as positive as possible. Now, my mean score is 7+, and I think it's a pretty abnormal mean score here in MAL... Is it okay if I keep up with this attitude or do I need to be stricter? My mean score is just below 8. Don't worry about being "strict" with your scores. It's all relative anyway. People think your mean score should be 5 because it's the middle of 1-10 but that's also assuming you want to spend half of your time watching shows that you don't even like. We don't choose anime to watch (or at least I don't) completely at random so our mean score shouldn't be really low. There is (and should) be an upwards skew in scores because anime is a medium of entertainment so there will be obviously a bias for shows you're more likely to enjoy based on reviews, genre, shows you've already watched etc. Forget about ratings there are better things to focus on in life. Rate however you want, don't overthink it save your brain capacity for something useful. |
| Sure, rating using the whole scale can mean being more descriptive with your ratings, but at the end of the day I think the reasons behind your feelings towards a series are far more interesting than what number-grade you assigned it, so just rate however you damn please. I pretty much concur with everything Lordwen has said on ratings (in his About Me area, I'm too lazy to what he has said in this thread, haha). |
| I recommend not taking the rating thingy too seriously and just rating out of instinct, it's what I do and it works. No need for mathematical formulas or worrying about having a high average or anything. |
| I think that you shouldn't let other peoples ratings affect how you rate anime. A rating is a numerical representation of how much you liked the anime. Thinking that your ratings are too considerate will make the rating unfair and cause your rating to be inaccurate. |
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| be truthful to your ratings. what is the point in lying to yourself? Wensbane said: That's actually not true. If you've watched more than 200 anime your mean score should naturally end up close to 5.5. If it's a lot higher or a lot lower than 5.5 there is a very strong possibility (not certainty) that you're doing something wrong. Usually it's not using the rating scale properly. Remember that 5 means average, but since you can't vote 0 on MAL -- making 5.5 the middle ground, not 5 -- most of your scores should be either 5 or 6. MAL Graph shows that you give way too many 8s. Like, one third of stuff you've watched are 8s. Even if you only watch stuff that you're guaranteed to love, with hundreds of anime under your belt, there's just no way that can be right. If your mean score is near 5.5, then you're picking as many shows you dislike as opposed to ones you do like. Why anyone actually thinks this is a good thing is beyond me. One of the perks of being "experienced" in watching anime, is that you should eventually be at least somewhat more aware of what an anime has to offer when you start it, than when you first began watching anime. Your average score should be higher than 5.5, if you're actually attempting to start series you think you will enjoy, rather than just starting random series. |
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| I think your score is literally the average score on MAL so you're a picture book average MAL user in that regard. Nobody can call you anything but boringly normal based on that so don't worry. |
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| Having a higher score just means that you enjoyed what you watched and if someone looks at your profile, they can see if its worth watching if they trust you. If we let others shift our idea on how to vote, ratings would not matter. We have to remember that different people have different tastes. |
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| So if I say it's not ok, now what? Are you going to change all your scores to what I think would be appropriate? Do nothing? Tell me off? Anyway, try this: remove all you scores and see what changes in the world. Spoilers: Nothing will. keimaconquesta said: Now, my mean score is 7+, and I think it's a pretty abnormal mean score here in MAL... Are you trolling? MAL's average is 7.15. |
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| There is no reason to take MAL seriously. Just rate however you want and ignore what others think. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
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