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Im feel sorry for you... this is the worst Macross so far, IMHO. |
| Hated it... Macross F is one of my favourite animes ever and this is just ridiculous. This should have a different name... magical idols with super powers... thats not macross :/ |
I've been getting that ever since I told people this is my first exposure to the franchise. I saw giant robots and singing idols, and I like that, that's all there is to it. |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
| Hmm, I love Macross so I'll probably watch it till the end, even if I start disliking it badly. Feels a bit different but we will see if it holds the magic. Too many waifus though. |
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| Not bad! I was expecting something underwhelming like Macross Frontier but it was definitely better than that. The original Macross is one of the best animes of all times, and its legacy deserves just the best. I dont know if this anime will be great, but what I have seen so far, I like it. |
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| Is this topic about episode 0.89? From what I've read episode 1 won't be shown until later in March. |
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
| You know, i'm a Macross 7 sympathizer. I know, i know, it's dumb, it's over the top, etc. However, in M7, the most over the top elements were Basara and the Protodevlin. Now, Basara is just a guy who was inspired by Lynn Minmay and decided he wanted to do that shit too. And when he enters his red Valkyrie and starts singing, we can see nearly the entire cast just stare at him, wondering "who the hell is this retard and why is he doing that?". Sure, it ends up working, but even that is met with surprise. When the Protodevlin pop up, people are also surprised to see such crazy shit. This is because, prior to M7, that kinda crazy shit didn't happen in Macross. As such, even milder elements of over-the-topness were met with surprise. But in this show, they just throw that out the window. An idol group singing right in front of the violent, crazy people who they are trying to appease is apparently completely natural (bear in mind, when Ranka went to sing to the rioting Zentradi, everyone flipped the fuck out, and she was quite distant from them). Now, i realize that the show implies that in the 8-year timeskip between Frontier and this, suddenly a new race of humans or some convoluted shit like that (veremere? I'd have to rewatch it to remember the name, and i do not want to do that) popped up. But here's the thing; This is the most out of place thing since the Protodevlin. And the Protodevlin is (well, was) the most out of place thing in the entirety of Macross; they were weird demon guys who put people in comas by stealing their willpower. They could fly and hypnotize/possess (it wasn't really clearly explained) humans. Easily the craziest part of M7, and probably a big part of why so many people hated M7. And boy, people absolutely hated (many still do) M7. And then you give us a series where an idol group (do realize that many mecha fans refer to idol anime as "moeblob idolshit") singing and jumping around Naruto style and going super mode and shit with tons of colors flying around, half the cast has stupid shit on their hair, tne protagonist manages to be blander than Hikaru, and you expect people to just accept it? There was nearly no effort whatsoever in trying to make this fit into the Macross universe. They halfassedly threw around some names and surnames here and there, and that's about it. And here's the thing: I'm pretty sure nobody would have a problem with this series if it was its own stand-off thing. I sure wouldn't. It's definitely not my thing, but i wouldn't hate it either. But by slapping the Macross name on this, now all the Macross fans are gonna flood this series with negative reviews, and bash every single episode on these forums. I just hope the genius who decided to make this a Macross show is proud of himself. TL;DR: This is a decent idol show that is gonna get tons of hate because some idiot decided that this should be considered a Macross series, and proceeded to make no effort to make it fit the rest of the franchise (at least M7 tried). |
| "Now you have your answer. That's Fire Bomber. We don't know their past or future... they're just here. That's all there is." - Akiko Lips |
Kotori_Sonoda said: I've been getting that ever since I told people this is my first exposure to the franchise. I saw giant robots and singing idols, and I like that, that's all there is to it. I feel sorry for you. Not because this is the worst one ('worst' and 'best' are incredibly subjective terms), but because if you end up really loving this one once it's done, you'll probably try to find other animes like it, look at the other Macross animes, and be extremely disappointed when you find out they have extremely different themes and tones. |
| "Now you have your answer. That's Fire Bomber. We don't know their past or future... they're just here. That's all there is." - Akiko Lips |
GhostofSide6 said: Kotori_Sonoda said: I've been getting that ever since I told people this is my first exposure to the franchise. I saw giant robots and singing idols, and I like that, that's all there is to it. I feel sorry for you. Not because this is the worst one ('worst' and 'best' are incredibly subjective terms), but because if you end up really loving this one once it's done, you'll probably try to find other animes like it, look at the other Macross animes, and be extremely disappointed when you find out they have extremely different themes and tones. That's okay, big fan of both the Transformers and Gundam franchises where two shows from the same franchise have super different tones (compare Build Fighters to Iron Blooded Orphans, or Beast Machines to Robots in Disguise 2015). I am interested in seeing the other Macross anime though. Any suggestion where to start? |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
Kotori_Sonoda said: GhostofSide6 said: I feel sorry for you. Not because this is the worst one ('worst' and 'best' are incredibly subjective terms), but because if you end up really loving this one once it's done, you'll probably try to find other animes like it, look at the other Macross animes, and be extremely disappointed when you find out they have extremely different themes and tones. That's okay, big fan of both the Transformers and Gundam franchises where two shows from the same franchise have super different tones (compare Build Fighters to Iron Blooded Orphans, or Beast Machines to Robots in Disguise 2015). I am interested in seeing the other Macross anime though. Any suggestion where to start? The thing is though, G Gundam, Gundam Wing, Build Fighters and the Original Gundams (0079, Zeta, ZZ, CCA, etc) are all in different continuities from each other. But here, they decided to make it all one single continuity, and this pissed many fans off, understandably. I'd recommend you watch the original TV Series, SDF Macross (if you don't mind extremely dated animation), and then watch the movie, "Do You Remember Love?" (which is a classic and has much better animation, but you'll be pretty confused if you try to watch it without having watched the original TV series first). If you want something similar in tone to this (but still much more grounded), watch Macross 7 and Macross 7 Encore (i'd recommend you skip Dynamite 7). If you want the hypest animation you'll ever see and you don't mind a short series or a mediocre plot, check out Macross Plus. And finally, if you want something in the same vein of the original Macross, but much more recent and with CG animation, check out Macross Frontier and its movies (although both the TV Series' and the movies' endings are quite disappointing, IMO). I haven't watched Macross Zero yet, so i can't really comment on it, but it is a prequel to the original SDF Macross, so you'll probably want to watch that first. |
| "Now you have your answer. That's Fire Bomber. We don't know their past or future... they're just here. That's all there is." - Akiko Lips |
| If you want to watch macross, the timeline is this: Macross Zero (OAV) is a prequel and is pretty good Macross First TV Macross Movie (is an alternate telling of the TV) Macross Plus Macross Seven TV, then OAV and movies Macross F TV Macross F movie (an alternate telling of the TV) Macross Delta Macross 2 is a OAV series set 70 years after the first TV, was the first OAV series made, but it was dropped out of the continuity when Macross Plus and Seven were created Macross 7 and now Macross Delta are disliked by many fans for many reasons, and i'm one of them By the way, in every new macross series, a new "power" of the songs is discovered, and the old powers are forgotten |
GhostofSide6 said: The thing is though, G Gundam, Gundam Wing, Build Fighters and the Original Gundams (0079, Zeta, ZZ, CCA, etc) are all in different continuities from each other. But here, they decided to make it all one single continuity, and this pissed many fans off, understandably. I'd recommend you watch the original TV Series, SDF Macross (if you don't mind extremely dated animation), and then watch the movie, "Do You Remember Love?" (which is a classic and has much better animation, but you'll be pretty confused if you try to watch it without having watched the original TV series first). If you want something similar in tone to this (but still much more grounded), watch Macross 7 and Macross 7 Encore (i'd recommend you skip Dynamite 7). If you want the hypest animation you'll ever see and you don't mind a short series or a mediocre plot, check out Macross Plus. And finally, if you want something in the same vein of the original Macross, but much more recent and with CG animation, check out Macross Frontier and its movies (although both the TV Series' and the movies' endings are quite disappointing, IMO). I haven't watched Macross Zero yet, so i can't really comment on it, but it is a prequel to the original SDF Macross, so you'll probably want to watch that first. I see, that makes sense. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try to watch those. |
"Fortress Maximus has come himself. Okay! Then I shall get Fortress Maximus to fight me, huh huh huh!" |
D-Joe said: That's exactly what i thought lol. I like that about it (not that i was a mega fan of symphogear, it's execution was awkward. AKB was delightfully cheesy).And wow, AKB0048 2.0 mixed some Symphogear style lol. So many people with forced impressions, and obstinance toward their world view of Macross (i knew this would happen lol). The outcome that is Macross Delta is pretty inevitable. When you even just glance over the tone shifts through the Macross series, it starts off kinda serious and then gets gradually more fantastical. There is nothing fallacious or terrible about where this is going, so don't throw your preconceptions onto it, it might just not be going in a direction you like, suck it up. With the way that the current japanese social media and so on is headed, the "idols" are just going to keep solidifying their presence. The same change can be observed within the evolution of the macross universe. After the events of Macross F, with the power of song and the Vajra connection influencing the fold, it's not surprising - and even to be expected, that further proliferation of the understanding of ways to manipulate the fold via song would happen (if you missed the mention of fold waves, there you go). This means more people would try to use the -cough- science to their advantage, thus you get a very symphogear-like song war. I'm not personally a huge fan of the popular "idols" but i do have a level of appreciation for what they do, as i've learned of the sincerity of their efforts and goals. The fact that macross took up the idol trend is virtually unavoidable and there's nothing wrong with it either. I for one am very much going to enjoy this fresh-to-macross approach, as this first episode was a lot of fun. It was quirky, it was weird - just like AKB0048 was when i first saw those "No Idol" missiles fling across the screen... But at the end of the day, it's entertainment, it exists to be fun, and it is fun - even if it's bizarre. Macross is very good at keeping modern. Reality: the tones of these series are going to shift dramatically over time to fit the social state of the culture at the time of it's making, accept it and appreciate it, or realize you probably didn't admire the universe as much as you thought. All of that said, i hope it doesn't get quite as cheesy as AKB; macross isn't really suited for that much silliness. (Ps: i've only watched Macross F, and soon i'll watch Zero, dunno if i'll watch the old series anytime soon though) |
GenesisAriaMar 13, 2016 7:01 AM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| I'm sitting here watching it like "haha this is so dumb. but that's sort of what macross has always been about" I still never thought they'd go back towards Macross 7's build of the singers actually fighting along side the pilots. Like the rest I'm going to watch it regardless. |
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GenesisAria said: D-Joe said: And wow, AKB0048 2.0 mixed some Symphogear style lol. (Ps: i've only watched Macross F, and soon i'll watch Zero, dunno if i'll watch the old series anytime soon though) if you watch the first macross and compare it to delta or seven, you could doubt that you are looking at the same anime now im just wondering how much success could have an harem anime with kawaii monsters, fan service and alot of space fightings, if i call it "gone with the wind delta" and im also wondering how many people that will complain should receive the same answers that i readed on this forum when we talked about macross realty is simple: what matters is the money that you can earn by producing an anime no producer cares if is good, if the drawings are nice, if the story make sense with itself or other macross stories what matters is MONEY, and macross delta is the perfect example of this law well, im proud to say that it will not be my money |
ZeroGMar 15, 2016 6:25 PM
ZeroG said: That's quite false. Akiba media is unique like the western gaming industry is, most of it is actually not money focused, money is secondary. They need the money to make it worthwhile, but their focus is on delivering something the people will like. That does lean into money farming territory with some anime and games clearly, but it does much less of than than you'd expect. A lot of the people going into production do it out of a passion for the media, and they have that desire to be part of a worthy project. There are many producers and artist who put pride into work, even if under the guise of profit. Sometimes it just comes out clumsy because they didn't have the time or budget to see their ambitions through.realty is simple: what matters is the money that you can earn by producing an anime no producer cares if is good, if the drawings are nice, if the story make sense with itself or other macross stories what matters is MONEY, and macross delta is the perfect example of this law well, im proud to say that it will not be my money End of the day, these things are made because it's what they want to make and it's what people want to see. The money allows it to happen. That's the kind of place akiba is. This theme is the frame of mind the public is in at present, and if you're not in the same frame of mind, well you're the exception, or you just haven't been around the culture enough. It's not my favourite, but i do respect it's trendiness. |
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: This theme is the frame of mind the public is in at present, and if you're not in the same frame of mind, well you're the exception, or you just haven't been around the culture enough. It's not my favourite, but i do respect it's trendiness. i have been an otaku for over 35 years, and i do not dislike the trend of symphogear actually i do not dislike any trend, as long the story makes sense, is interesting, and does not "forget" or "change" some events to make the main character win some of the anime that changed this world were made by people that went against producers to create what they wanted just to make an example no one belived that gundam could be a success, producers just wanted a 20 minute commercial to sell a robot toy, and had many fights with tomino over the series design, also because at first it was a "box office bomb" but what we have here with delta (and seven) is different is like having a dragonball z2 that is a shoujo a dragonball z3 that continues the story as a crude horror and a dragonball z4 that ends the saga as a proxy battle card game anime macross in the 1982 was a sci fi anime, and pretty realistic now we have an army and government that sends to battle underaged girls so they can sing and dance on the head of the enemy mecha, while my army mecha shoot at it but no worries, as long that the girl sings, she can take a direct it or two not to mention that in every new macross series, songs acquire new incredible powers that could change the world, but no one seem remember the powers they had in the previous series is not a different timeline like gundam wing and gundam x, they are in the same continuity as the first macross? yeah sure then in the next macross what i will see? a cluster missile that delivers 100 poke balls to the target? |
ZeroG said: Haha, well this whole air around the power of music is a theme that's been gaining popularity through the development of the music industry of japan (which is one of the largest in the world mind you) and settles in the subconscious op the people. See, how japan's marketing works, is they sell emotions and ideas that spark emotions, instead of product. Sensational meta-ideas like the power of music are motivating and makes everything feel bigger and more important.GenesisAria said: i have been an otaku for over 35 years, and i do not dislike the trend of symphogearThis theme is the frame of mind the public is in at present, and if you're not in the same frame of mind, well you're the exception, or you just haven't been around the culture enough. It's not my favourite, but i do respect it's trendiness. actually i do not dislike any trend, as long the story makes sense, is interesting, and does not "forget" or "change" some events to make the main character win some of the anime that changed this world were made by people that went against producers to create what they wanted just to make an example no one belived that gundam could be a success, producers just wanted a 20 minute commercial to sell a robot toy, and had many fights with tomino over the series design, also because at first it was a "box office bomb" but what we have here with delta (and seven) is different is like having a dragonball z2 that is a shoujo a dragonball z3 that continues the story as a crude horror and a dragonball z4 that ends the saga as a proxy battle card game anime macross in the 1982 was a sci fi anime, and pretty realistic now we have an army and government that sends to battle underaged girls so they can sing and dance on the head of the enemy mecha, while my army mecha shoot at it but no worries, as long that the girl sings, she can take a direct it or two not to mention that in every new macross series, songs acquire new incredible powers that could change the world, but no one seem remember the powers they had in the previous series is not a different timeline like gundam wing and gundam x, they are in the same continuity as the first macross? yeah sure then in the next macross what i will see? a cluster missile that delivers 100 poke balls to the target? Some series end and get revived as something to squeeze some money, that happens. But this case isn't any different from Macross F, it follows the pattern and puts a similar amount of shift to the trends. This evolution on the power of song from the previous is not unrealistic. We already had the "science" of the song (Spoiler)travlling through the fold to connect to the Vajra, and it's only reasonable to assume further study went into it to find out ways to make use of it, thus making fold song power more commonplace and able to do more things, as more was discovered in study. It follows the trend, but also is true to what Macross has always kinda been doing anyways. It evolved from figurative motivational power to literal power gradually. As far as realism, Space Battleship Yamato is the only remotely realistic japanese sci-fi series i've seen to date, but even it uses loads of pseudoscience like dimensional stuff and focusing hawking radiation. I highly doubt that it's been close to that. You gotta know a lot about physics to judge realism ^^; I don't define myself as an otaku, because that undermines the very interest in the culture. "Otaku" is the japanese equivalent of what we call "weeaboo". I, personally am an educated akiba-kei who's watched a lot of the sociology of that's actually going on in japan and around the akihabara media. I adore the sub-culture and how it's rapidly leaving it's nest, and learn all i can of it with the least biases going in as possible, aside from my own appreciation of it. Ps: under-aged or not is irrelevant, and who gets to define under-aged in a space civilization invented in a country not yours? Cuteness is the meta-trend today, along with power of music. Inevitable result: nubile girls singing and dancing. |
GenesisAriaMar 16, 2016 7:21 AM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| I watched Yamato probably before you were born, i still love it but i stopped to call it "realistic" when i hit my teens I studied phyisics for some time, and i dont judge anime realism by its superscience Is more absurd to see the scrap of a 200 years old battleship rebuilded into a super starship that alone destroys fleets of enemy starships Not to mention that yamato housed space fighters and spare parts 10 times larger than her hull |
ZeroG said: -shrugs- it was quaint. Yamato was japan's pride and it got hammered before it saw any action, so it excites imaginations. It's not realistic to say the least, but compared to other sci-fi anime... i watched the 2199 version, and it's science and presentation as well as the demonstration of tactics&strategy were fantastic.I watched Yamato probably before you were born, i still love it but i stopped to call it "realistic" when i hit my teens I studied phyisics for some time, and i dont judge anime realism by its superscience Is more absurd to see the scrap of a 200 years old battleship rebuilded into a super starship that alone destroys fleets of enemy starships Not to mention that yamato housed space fighters and spare parts 10 times larger than her hull Ps: Yamato is the first televised fiction i've ever seen mention birkeland currents. |
GenesisAriaMar 16, 2016 11:28 AM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| the first anime i can remember was Mazinger Z, i love it, and dont care if people says is old and outdated ^_^ |
piau9000 said: For the ones that don't understand why everyone is salty, just imagine your favorite romance/drama/sol series. Now imagine that little by little they began to insert some themes like "boy with spike hair fighting another boy with spike hair". Now out of nowhere it change completly and the drama/sol/romance is just 9% of the anime while the remaining 89% focus on a "weird dude that grows spike hair out of his ass to fight a green alien with purple spiky wings". Then all subsequent installments of the series is about this with almost no romance or drama at all. What a ride right? This is what the old fans are feeling right now. Honestly the industry has been taking a gigantic shit on everything I used to hold dear and like about it for at least 7-10 years, hardly surprised anymore. Granted the first episode wasn't nearly as bad as I expected and actually had more aspects that reminded me it was supposed to be related to Macross. |
| The full version ended on a great note, Hayate has some footwork, it makes for a damn unique piloting technique although it did end with him getting shot down. |
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| Yeah seem like full version cover some scenes and places that weren't in SP version. That pilot "dancing skills" this were much better than SP . He seem like he really enjoy dancing. ^^ |
BlackbirdApr 3, 2016 9:53 AM
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| watch last four minutes episode. Hayate is really good riding mecha huh. |
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| Uryaaaaa!!! Fucking MC, just like Alto, yelling like a madman in his cockpit. I know it's a common trait in characters that are in mecha machines but when you watch a lot of those kinds of anime, it got annoying. You know 80' and 90's didn't have that much. And still no opening, really curious to see it in the next episode. In all honesty, I wanted to praise the previous episode where the battle excluded the immediate involvement of the main male character. But they had this in their sleeve. And what a surprise, he is a freaking ace in it and can dance. So Alto picks up Ranka, evades the attacks while Ozma checks him out from afar. Yeah, pretty much same scene recreated. I thought that scene in Frontier was homage for original Macross, why repeat it here again? Alright episode overall, but still feels like I'm watching Mahou Shoujo anime with mecha inserted. People defend it with ''But Macross was always about supernatural and music!'' Yeah, but it had a touch of realism more then it had fantasy. This really amp it up to another level and still can't get used to it. Aquarion Evol effects thrown in right of the bat didn't help ether. Let's see how other episodes hold up. |
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piau9000 said: For the ones that don't understand why everyone is salty, just imagine your favorite romance/drama/sol series. Now imagine that little by little they began to insert some themes like "boy with spike hair fighting another boy with spike hair". Now out of nowhere it change completly and the drama/sol/romance is just 9% of the anime while the remaining 89% focus on a "weird dude that grows spike hair out of his ass to fight a green alien with purple spiky wings". Then all subsequent installments of the series is about this with almost no romance or drama at all. What a ride right? This is what the old fans are feeling right now. This is what ended up happening with Mahou Sensei Negima. And Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha. And it was the BEST. THING. EVER. for both of those series. So yes, "what a ride" indeed. |
| Jumping in Headfirst - I hear reading it causes immortality. Warning. Reading may not actually cause immortality. |
| I pretty disappointed by Delta. I was so hyped and and then, I was let down by a macross version of Smile Precure. ( Yes, I know that idol group is a trend in japan right now but that does not mean you have to follow it). OH yeah fking magical girl transformation made me wonder if I was watching Sailor Moon or Macross. Fuck me... The could do a much better job with character design. The guy looks like a fking girl and get wrecked by a girl. Freya looks like a dometic cat that went into the wilderness. Mirage is the typical strict to the code girl. Mikumo is like Sheryl 2.0... I don't even mention the rest... Why the characters must be so fking cliché? The new Valkyrie VF-31 is merely a VF-30 with some new wings design and arm cannons. What? That's it? You don't even want to change the head design a little bit??? Where's the originality of the original VF-1 and the VF-19? The first Macross that I watched was Macross 7 and the rock music was really nice coupled with meaningful lyrics. Macross really show what music is trending and I must say: I'm fking not impressed with idol groups because from what I understand, you're using numbers + "cuteness" to make up for the mediocre music + lyrics. The songs were horrible in Delta and I hope like M7, they get better near the end like Holy lonely night and Try again or in the OVA, Dynamite Explosion. I personally am not too bothered by the use of CGI but please, BRING BACK THOSE AWESOME MANEUVERS from Macross Zero or those mad dodging skills that Basara has cuz fuck me, those VF-31 fly like normal-high skill level not like the other ones who were almost like dancing in the sky. As it is now, 3-4 out of 10. Might stick around if there's something awesome to see. |
| I kinda liked it, so I'm looking forward to it~ |
| What a letdown, this did not feel like Macross and sure there is only one episode out but none of the characters grabbed my interest and Freya was just annoying, only interested in the space elf girl But guess I'll watch the next ep anyways since I'm a masochist. |
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| Idk abt the others but I feel like I'm gonna enjoy the hell outta this anime. |
| This could be pretty fabulous. Digging the song at the end there. It looks a little messy with all the busy effects and vary character art, but I think they did a great job mixing the battle and 'concert' action together into a long exciting sequence. The 'middle eastern' culture of the colony and the Var syndrome's obvious terrorist insurgency parallels might make for some interesting discussions. And as always, nice to see legacy fans getting roughed up. |
CkanApr 3, 2016 8:25 PM
| IT WASN'T THAT BAD. The ending song grows gdi. And the break-dancing mecha scene. I'm sold, for now, until the main girl starts singing. |
| You will soon learn that a heart that choose to exist, even in a life filled with pain, will one day allow us to meet again. With the world's blessings, we will meet again and again, forever returning to the homeworld we've yet to see. Many, many times.  |
| So I suppose Freyja is Minmay/Ranka and elf girl is Misa/Sheryl, aka my to-be-fav, then. This was stupid af but Macross always kinda is. Just a little more stupid than usual. |
| Pretty disappointed myself as well. It is a special though so hopefully the tone isn't AKB048 but pretty sure it will be. I personally dislike making the singer involved in combat like AKB048- that and it definitely felt like magical girls to me as well. I don't know how you could say they're the same as the previous series. Wearing holographic costumes for the futuristic concert stage is totally different than spending 10 seconds throwing sparkles everywhere and ending with poses. If they took it out and just had them switch from regular clothes in one second with no ending pose the tone would be totally different. The aerial combat scenes with the Valkyries were ok but the CG design of the aircraft felt like a step down, especially compared to Frontier and Plus- which were two of my favorites. Even with some of the intense missile and dogfight scenes if they had just cut down on the characters talking and focused on them flying it would've made it feel more top-gun-ish and less idol fighting-ish with dogfighting fighter spacecraft as a side note. At the very least thought the whole idea of dancing in combat to dodge was pretty interesting and exciting to watch and the character designs were very pleasing to the eye. About the only part that made me smile was when the Zentradi said deculture. But damn those transformations, idol combat and spacecraft design really seemed to take away from the first taste of the coming series. |
| That was so boring. Way too many characters and the main character does not get enough screentime. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Man some people are getting really butthurt about this series, even saw someone compare the CGI and claim it was worse than Frontier. I dunno if you actually remember, but when that first episode of frontier came out so many people were so angry with the CG saying how it was super jarring. To those people, I would suggest you go pull up the first episode of Macross Frontier and you'll quickly realize that the show really has aged poorly. To the people complaining that it sounds like generic J-Pop - it's mostly a pity since Frontier had Yoko Kanno on it, who was able to create the space-epic music that was fairly unique to Frontier. The music in Delta is by no means bad, but of course it'll sound generic compared to Frontier. For now I'm satisfying myself with May'n / Kanno Yoko tracks from Aquarion Logos. On a different note, damn the last Macross really did come out a while ago, it's been 8 years lol. Almost around the time I first started using MAL lol |
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| I'm fuckin sold!!! Goddamn, the character design was Striking, yet Believeable. Those hair, i like them!! Those idol group is too OP! evading laser bullet and shit!! well, gonna watch this shit! |
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