The top bunch of manga dominated by shounen stuff, which is to be expected. Nevertheless, as a One Piece fan, nothing makes me more happy than seeing all of 2009's released volumes taking up all the top spots...and by a rather large margin too.
shinkeikaku said: Mostly uninspired and/or long running series.. at least Saint Young Men is doing well.
Are you implying One Piece is uninspired?
Heresy, my good man, heresy.
At 50+ volumes, I have a hard time imagining it pioneering new, exciting trends in manga still. That's why I gave up on Jump titles.
To be fair, denouncing One Piece while praising Saint Young Men in the same sentence (far more cliche and less imaginative) is downright silly.
And I'll give One Piece credit; it's a great, fun adventure story...for kids. I don't think the author ever envisioned it being so popular with full-grown adults.
To be fair, denouncing One Piece while praising Saint Young Men in the same sentence (far more cliche and less imaginative) is downright silly.
You're confusing silly with personal taste and opinion. Particularly, wanting something new. And publishing since the late 90s isn't so fresh, while Saint Young Men is (at this point).
YoungVagabond said: And I'll give One Piece credit; it's a great, fun adventure story...for kids. I don't think the author ever envisioned it being so popular with full-grown adults.
I"m sure there's a bunch of reasons for that, but the way I see it, for a story that's been going on for 10+ years, the kids who read it at the beginning are now adults. And if one has already kept up with the series to such a degree, you might as well see it to the end. That's how I would feel about it anyway.
To be fair, denouncing One Piece while praising Saint Young Men in the same sentence (far more cliche and less imaginative) is downright silly.
You're confusing silly with personal taste and opinion. Particularly, wanting something new. And publishing since the late 90s isn't so fresh, while Saint Young Men is (at this point).
Except Saint Young Men isn't anything new. Even setting aside my opinion that the humor is tepid and uninspired, it's a less unique version of Lucu Lucu.
One Piece, if nothing else, was a relatively new concept and approach when it came out, and even in 2009, continues to be more unique than most other megahits. I feel weird defending it considering I'm not a big fan, but I recognize its strengths.
YoungVagabond said: Except Saint Young Men isn't anything new. Even setting aside my opinion that the humor is tepid and uninspired, it's a less unique version of Lucu Lucu.
One Piece, if nothing else, was a relatively new concept and approach when it came out, and even in 2009, continues to be more unique than most other megahits. I feel weird defending it considering I'm not a big fan, but I recognize its strengths.
Sigh.. Vol 4 versus Vol 50+.. whether you think it's a lot like something else, it's still fresher to me because it wasn't publishing over 10 years ago. Are you saying that it's fresh and there's no formula, filler, or patterns at all in One Piece? After 50+ volumes? In a Jump manga? This I gotta see..
I'm more forgiving of those things in series that only have so many volumes and haven't dragged on forever. I could have just as easily picked Kuroshitsuji since it's also in the single digits, but I was over it before people even discovered it.
Sigh.. Vol 4 versus Vol 50+.. whether you think it's a lot like something else, it's still fresher to me because it wasn't publishing over 10 years ago. Are you saying that it's fresh and there's no formula, filler, or patterns at all in One Piece? After 50+ volumes? In a Jump manga? This I gotta see..
I'm more forgiving of those things in series that only have so many volumes and haven't dragged on forever. I could have just as easily picked Kuroshitsuji since it's also in the single digits, but I was over it before people even discovered it.
Okay, I see what you're saying. You mean the specific recent volumes as opposed to the overarching plot/aesthetic of the work as a whole. But even there, I don't see anything new or creative in Saint Young Men. It's a strange example to use for originality.
YoungVagabond said: Why not mention Pluto, for instance?
Shortly--I've not read it. Same with 3 Gatsu no Lion, which looks like a strong new series. I like when new serializations sell because it encourages new works versus stuff that has been around forever. There's not many publishing series I've been actively reading for 5+ years that I still like. Gets old. Maybe my attention span needs work. I guess that's why I'm reading over 300 current series too. Plenty of new series are derivative of course, so that's another thing to watch out for and I'll drop them if I don't think they are entertaining.
I've generally found for most shonen that you have to get through at least a few volumes before you really become a huge fan of a series. (as opposed to just thinking it's good). And also, things usually take a while to become worthy of the praise it gets. (hell, Detective Conan barely even had a plot until volume 18)
Also, about the multiple volumes for a series, obviously the people who buy the 37th or whatever volume will buy the 38th.