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| [quote=Magenero] Magenero said: annie_leonheart said: Oh you were right... But isn't it a bit too weird and easy. I mean she is supposed to be on this extermination brigade. why should she hesitate? I mean she has a gun pointed at her and they are considered dangerous, she could die at any moment or be tortured. So why is she hesitating? I really hope the next chapter is better than this, with no talks about changing their point of views. I hope Erwin at least is getting his head chopped off as this is happening. In my opinion, she hesitated because Jean hesitated in killing her. Maybe because of that she's not seeing them as the enemies she was told they were? I don't know, and honestly it doesn't matter because she's dead now. And why would you hope that Erwin is dead? He's the (ex) leader of the SL. If he dies, it'll hinder their goals and lower morale and all that. Regardless of the deathflags that were raised for him, I hope he lives. Do you even care about the story at all? |
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| This chapter kicked ass. Armin barfs, Jean is pummelled to a pulp, Levi has a no-shirt scene! And Hitch. Hi there, Hitch. |
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| [quote=DulcetRequiem] Magenero said: Magenero said: Oh you were right... But isn't it a bit too weird and easy. I mean she is supposed to be on this extermination brigade. why should she hesitate? I mean she has a gun pointed at her and they are considered dangerous, she could die at any moment or be tortured. So why is she hesitating? I really hope the next chapter is better than this, with no talks about changing their point of views. I hope Erwin at least is getting his head chopped off as this is happening. In my opinion, she hesitated because Jean hesitated in killing her. Maybe because of that she's not seeing them as the enemies she was told they were? I don't know, and honestly it doesn't matter because she's dead now. And why would you hope that Erwin is dead? He's the (ex) leader of the SL. If he dies, it'll hinder their goals and lower morale and all that. Regardless of the deathflags that were raised for him, I hope he lives. Do you even care about the story at all? Because I hate him and his way of doing things, which are now influencing all the other characters and is stopping the possible debate of right and wrong. |
| [quote=Magenero] DulcetRequiem said: Magenero said: In my opinion, she hesitated because Jean hesitated in killing her. Maybe because of that she's not seeing them as the enemies she was told they were? I don't know, and honestly it doesn't matter because she's dead now. And why would you hope that Erwin is dead? He's the (ex) leader of the SL. If he dies, it'll hinder their goals and lower morale and all that. Regardless of the deathflags that were raised for him, I hope he lives. Do you even care about the story at all? Because I hate him and his way of doing things, which are now influencing all the other characters and is stopping the possible debate of right and wrong. Without his way of doing things, Eren would be now in the hands of Reiner and Bert and humanity would be even more fucked. |
| Armin is not pure anymore. |
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Sapewloth said: Armin is not pure anymore. Good. Purity is overrated and gets good people killed |
| The end justifies the means. I dont'like this idea but this is the way we all survive. Every single second our immune systems kill thousand of germ to prevent them to killing us. We kill "useless" plants to plant wheat and other edible ones. Many people eat meat and use leather to make wallets and belts. Yes, killing is a very, very bad thing but sometimes you have to kill in order to survive. Yes, I woukd like to live in Utopia, in a place where lambs and lions can live together,but unluckly Utopia doesn't exist. Aot's world is a fictional one but it has the same rules of our world. Those who have power (the king? the Reiss's family?) are willing to use any means to keep it. They can manipulate people's will and memory, they kill whoever tries to rebel (the Rodd's people, the Scouting Legion) or simply whoever tries to discover the truth (Erwin's father, that man who was building a revolver gun, the couple on the hot air balloon...) What should the Scouting Legion do? Wave a white flag and cry "peace and love"? Put their heads under the sand? They chose to fight to save themselves and the whole humanity from death. They had to kill those who were trying to kill them. Armin did the right thing killing that girl. She belonged to an assassin's group and was shooting at Jean. Levi and Hanji tortured that MP to get as soon as possible informations to save their lives however they spared the life of both the prisoners and they probably didn't even cause them lasting damages.They never used terrorism or aimed at common people in order to blackmail the Government. They fought (by now) using violence only if they had to. |
Magenero said: DulcetRequiem said: And why would you hope that Erwin is dead? He's the (ex) leader of the SL. If he dies, it'll hinder their goals and lower morale and all that. Regardless of the deathflags that were raised for him, I hope he lives. Do you even care about the story at all? Because I hate him and his way of doing things, which are now influencing all the other characters and is stopping the possible debate of right and wrong. Since when there was a revolution without blood? are you really asking the survey corps to win the rebellion without killing anyone? to get information out of an enemy soldier without resorting to violence? to go through all that without thinking they are on the right side... really? the 104th squad members are growing, Jean thinks the Survey crops are right but he discovered after experiencing that situation that he can't reach his objective and keep his hands clean (he can't do it if he's dead right?) and that goes for the rest remaining members. so rather than saying they got influenced i'd say experience is teaching them to be decisive about their priorities. In the end Erwin/Levi way of doing things is what kept them alive all this time, they are progressing against the impossible odds they face. they get the job done... a job no one wants. |
Q: Who won the Annie vs Mikasa fight in Vol. 11? A: It was an enjoyable fight like the one between ノゲイラ and ボブ・サップ! The instructor came and interrupted the fight, so there were no winner. Thank you so much for posting that link, that question was eating me for almost two years. |
annie_leonheart said: Q: Who won the Annie vs Mikasa fight in Vol. 11? A: It was an enjoyable fight like the one between ノゲイラ and ボブ・サップ! The instructor came and interrupted the fight, so there were no winner. Thank you so much for posting that link, that question was eating me for almost two years. We all know Annie would've won that fight though. ;) |
| Cool chapter. Jean did something very dangerous and he risked a lot when Hitch came back, but in the end everything went well. It's very likely that they would help now because of (between the two) the relationship with Annie and the sense of Justice. So making them come back in this situation was a good idea. Although at first I expected Hitch being more insensitive than she looked in this chapter. At the same time Jean in some ways was also trying to convince himself after what happened with Armin. Overall a character development that I like. Armin first kill, he's getting even more close to Erwin's style. I liked Mikasa consoling Armin |
| [quote=Darklight0303] Magenero said: we don't know that yetDulcetRequiem said: Because I hate him and his way of doing things, which are now influencing all the other characters and is stopping the possible debate of right and wrong. Without his way of doing things, Eren would be now in the hands of Reiner and Bert and humanity would be even more fucked. |
| Oh and I thought Mikasa had dirtied her hands by killing someone, I certainly didn't expect Armin to be the one to pull the trigger. |
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ShanaFlame said: Oh and I thought Mikasa had dirtied her hands by killing someone, I certainly didn't expect Armin to be the one to pull the trigger. Because mikasa has never dirtied her hands by killing someone. It's not like her entire backstory, personality, devotion to eren and everything else revolves around some event that involved her getting her hands dirty by killing someone. Oh wait... But seriously, I knew armin pulled a gun because I saw his hand in that panel, but it was surprised by the fact that she hesitated to shoot jean too. It makes the situation more complex because no one in the mp is really "bad" they just fell on different sides than the survey corps. Yeah some are crooked, but they're still human. |
| I didn't come here to play, I came to win. Now lets play. |
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| Sometimes I wish SNK was shounen just so I could get weekly, heck biweekly would be even better. I knew Jean wouldn't die, but poor Armin. At least this shows how strong of a character he is. I wish more people would have the mentality of Eren, who cares if their human. If their actions are immoral, their no better than titans. Hopefully we get to know more about the mysterious woman, Erens dad and titan origins. Though it wouldn't surprise me if that took a year. Magenero said: annie_leonheart said: I am talking about Erwin continuosly throwing his own army to the chopping block as a distraction and they shit he did at wall Since when there was a revolution without blood? are you really asking the survey corps to win the rebellion without killing anyone? to get information out of an enemy soldier without resorting to violence? to go through all that without thinking they are on the right side... really? the 104th squad members are growing, Jean thinks the Survey crops are right but he discovered after experiencing that situation that he can't reach his objective and keep his hands clean (he can't do it if he's dead right?) and that goes for the rest remaining members. so rather than saying they got influenced i'd say experience is teaching them to be decisive about their priorities. In the end Erwin/Levi way of doing things is what kept them alive all this time, they are progressing against the impossible odds they face. they get the job done... a job no one wants. sina. I am not talking about him killing his enemies. "If we only focus on making the best moves, We will never get the better of our opponents. When necessary, we must willing to take the big risks, and be prepared to lose everything." That's just the type of character he is,he knows to succeed you need to make sacrifices. He told all his trainee's that a significant amount of them would die. It's inventable, but if they fight till they end it never went to waste. He's sacrificed his arm and happiness for humanity. The expedition was not prepared for one of their own men to be an extremely intelligent and dangerous titan to turn against them and kill them. |
skittle316Jul 12, 2014 5:14 PM
| I like that Marlow gets a second chance at redemption after not being able to put his money where his mouth is back in stohess. |
ErenxMikasa said: I like that Marlow gets a second chance at redemption after not being able to put his money where his mouth is back in stohess. Talking about the anime? wonder if that actually happened in the manga. |
| Armin's innocence continues to be sullied. |
| wow, i want more more >.< |
“They stood together in a false intimacy, a nervous contact. And he was in love with her.” ― D.H. Lawrence, Women in Love |
skittle316 said: Sometimes I wish SNK was shounen just so I could get weekly, heck biweekly would be even better. Shingeki no Kyojin is a shounen. It is in a shounen magazine. A monthly shounen magazine, but shounen nonetheless. |
| Levi and Jean are too good xD |
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annie_leonheart said: ErenxMikasa said: I like that Marlow gets a second chance at redemption after not being able to put his money where his mouth is back in stohess. Talking about the anime? wonder if that actually happened in the manga. It did, it was slightly different in the anime than the manga, but yeah it did. |
| I think eren will finally be freed next chapter, but I have the suspicion that historia might turn on the sl. I hope not, but I'm curious about what she might do. I also think erens going to learn how to get hard soon. |
| I didn't come here to play, I came to win. Now lets play. |
| Levi is the king. |
| So .. Armin pulled the trigger .. but the trauma though . Infiltration and Retrieval Preparations are complete !! Counterpart of eren in M.P. .. well .. eren is still better. Operation begins !! Pretty good chapter !!! |
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xBlitzwing said: Pipoko said: I realized I didn't really respond - character development and set up is nice and all, but like I said there's a point where it becomes too much. A balance would be nice. The series had a few slow stretches here and there - The few chapters before Levi's first squad died, the few chapters before Eren blocked the gate, chapter 45,46 are relatively slow ones. This has been like this 9 chapters straight and not that well balanced in plot, characters and everything else. I'm willing to be really patient, but it's been such a long stretch of relatively slow chapters now. I can agree with you on that. I dont want to use that word but its true im getting bored for real ...thx to the last few chapters the mystery, military training, titan action and struggles for survival that created the AoT hype were just killed off with the following super extended n boring conspiracy theories >.> |
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anatoli90 said: xBlitzwing said: I can agree with you on that. I dont want to use that word but its true im getting bored for real ...thx to the last few chapters the mystery, military training, titan action and struggles for survival that created the AoT hype were just killed off with the following super extended n boring conspiracy theories >.> ^ You must be blind if you didn't see this arc coming from miles a way. The first season of the anime has hinted that an arc about the government would've happen, I don't mine you calling it boring, but saying it's extended is going to far, this arc is very important to the story, and also it's also focusing on Historia. |
| Wow, the comments on this chapter are wild. Levi abusing Historia? Erwin sacrificing his men without any compassion? Why is Mikasa not freaking out about Eren? Honestly, Mikasa's character can't do anything right. She's damned if she is outwardly overprotective of Eren and damned if she handles it inwardly the way everyone else does on her team. Also you should probably reread the manga if you're having trouble with Erwin's way of doing things. This is the theme of the manga: you can only reclaim the reins of humanity by some people casting away their own. That's Erwin's shtick, but you're wrong if you say it doesn't bring him any sorrow personally. The man lost an arm for this cause and he keeps going. He will probably go so far and so deep that I wouldn't be surprised that at the end of this story he is branded a villain to humanity instead of the heroic impetus for revolution, because that's how history sometimes views those figures. As for Levi "abusing" Historia. I understand that Historia is basically an empty shell of a person, but Levi's wake up call was no more harsh than anything else he's done to his team. It's not like he slapped her around... Historia is part of the Scout Corps. She is not a delicate flower and while he may have been rough, it was necessary for her to realize what her purpose was. That's all she's wanted after all--a reason for living and to find her place. Becoming ruler is that purpose. LASTLY, for all of you saying Levi is a terrible person, that exchange with Armin exemplifies just how much Levi cares for not just his team, but for people. He realized that the Nameless Girl hesitated because she may have been just like them. He knows how sensitive Armin is and that he's not even taken down a Titan yet, much less a human. He can see the changes happening in his squad and that they would not be the same if one of them was lost. Armin's development has been beautiful to watch. He may have dirtied his hands by doing this, but don't forget that it was Armin who also taunted Bertoldt with the lie that Annie was being tortured. Armin has slowly been casting away parts of his humanity. I venture to guess he would become like Erwin with enough time. Both Armin AND Levi know the cost--it's why they follow Erwin in the first place. |
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| what Armin killed someone . I knew he has some hidden potential. |
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| Jean found Marco reincarnation... Now, kith. So the Survey Corps is going on the offensive? I hope it goes well, even if I think it won't. Will Levi mentor be there as well? If so, things will get messy. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| Horse and Kappa LOL. I like you, Kappa. 5/10 |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| Poor Armin :( Also, now two Military polices are on Levi's squad's side. Let's see if the disguises work. 4/5 |
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| Felt bad for Armin, poor guy had no choice. Lold at Hitch calling Jean horse faced. |
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| woo, the military police brigade are gonna pay. |
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| I feel bad for Armin. He's too pure for this world. |
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| Armin saved Jean! ...but at what cost? His purity has been tainted by the cruel world, never to return. Oh well. Time ta rack more kills~ Levi living in that filthy stable, Mikasa not talking about Eren for most of the time, Connie not fooling and Sasha not eating much still surprises me, actually. That reminded me of how hard their situation's become... That Annie reveal! How he said it so casually...damn. Get wrecked! From the time Jean smiled with that knife, I just couldn't take it seriously at all... Kappa xD Hitch looks so cute~ Much like Jean, I didn't see that stick attack coming but I lol'd when she called him a horseface. Thanks to Marlo and Hitch's directions, which were revealed by Jean's efforts, the Survey Corps is about ta set foot on CenterMP Manor. This one is for the Historia books! |
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| well that was something...I did not expect for them to appear now finally some inside help |
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| Levi ripped af boii. That was a scary test btw. |
| New recruits, this is genial!! Levi and friends found where is Eren!! O_O |
| Hitch and Marlow finding out that Annie was the hidden titan all along is awesome. |
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| People love to interrupt Levi when he starts to talking, but even when he is being rude, he still say the right thing. Poor Armin, his innocence is being corrupted. |
| Glad to see Jean got saved by Armin. Can this guy really be trusted? |
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